Race 2 Mars - Take 2! (and 3 and maybe even 12)
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- The Race 2 Mars is on! Kanajashi may have won round 1, but I think he's going to have some fun trying to beat this time :D
This is a challenge to see how fast you can get from a vanilla star system start on Earth-like to Mars
Time starts when you hit spawn on the respawn screen
Time ends when your powered respawn point is locked to the surface of Mars
Rules:
Vanilla game settings: Progression is on, Scripts are off, PCU limit is on, basically don't touch the default settings
Mods that do not change gameplay but enhance the audience experience or accessibility are allowed (current allowed mods are Sneaky Sounds, Screen Gunk Be Gone and the one for changing the emissives to colours that are better for people with some forms of colour blindness)
no manually entered GPS locations allowed
blind jump to Mars only
clang drives, weird glitches etc are allowed and are probably slower if you can't use scripts 😛
I am not the arbiter of speedruns. I just did this for some fun and mostly to learn the start of the game well enough to confidently teach it again.
Broadcasted live on Twitch -- Watch live at / splitsie
"Hey Capac, what happened to all the silver?"
"I made a bunch of improved grinders."
"... Why?"
"They were calling to me."
When you said 'its easy to get turned around on this ice lake' I just burst out laughing as the thought came to my head... Splitsie, you'd get turned around on a one way street!!
Also a word of warning about your irony hole... If you aren't careful it could turn into a sar-chasm... Sorry, I shall now hang my head in shame...
You make a valid point, I really don't have a good point of reference for how easy it is to get lost :P
I am looking forward to your redone tutorials. as I have gotten into space engineers a couple of years back I had so much info and help from your survival series and tutorials. now that I'm officially a novice :P I am keen to see your updated versions
By far my fastest start (given several speedruns) has used this technique:
Set up your base ON the ice, landing on an iron/cobalt/nickel deposit. Get your initial stone either from the shore (if you're close) or (more likely) from the stone layer UNDER the ore layer. Grab one suitload each of nickel, cobalt, and silicon fairly early.
Build order:
Medium cargo on the pod so you can load it with stone. This is critical to a fast start. Once fully loaded with stone queue up components as below, and grab your nickel, silicon and cobalt lumps. You can just drop them as big rocks next to the pod until you have storage.
Refinery, turbine, basic assembler, 2 turbines, large grid small cargo (load those ores now), welder (all placed linearly), conveyor junction or second cargo (on top of first cargo), queue up 5-6 turbines in the survival pod, meanwhile assembler (attached to the junction so the welder can build it), second basic refinery, o2 h2 gen x2, hydrogen engine, 2 speed modules on assembler, grind down basic assembler, large refinery, large cargo, hydrogen tank (if placed correctly most of these can be built by the original welder).
Up to this point, all materials are hand mined (ideally iron is right below your base so travel time by suit is about 3 seconds).
From here ramp up o2h2 gens as fast as possible, since hydrogen accumulation is one of the bottlenecks (if going for a grand tour speed run), keep adding speed modules (since power is not a bottleneck when using hydrogen engines). Accumulate iron and stone with either a piston miner, or a flying miner, once you have plenty of iron/stone being processed, head for gold.
This gets me a large grid ship filled with hydrogen, charged batteries, and charged jump drive, somewher between 1.5 and 2 hours, depending on how smoothly I can do it.
I love the idea of a survival series where you have to communicate using in-game comms, it would present some really interesting challenges to overcome. And if you have some sort of shared goal but no way to easily share what you're working on without the comms
The luck of the streamer the 15th time around? Good job Splitsie, this was entertaining to watch all 5 hours of it.
Thanks :)
You know Splitsie is off to a better start when the respawn pod isn’t upside down at any time in the first 10 minutes. Within the first 30 minutes is just par for the course lol.
I was waiting for that lack of a gyro to come back and it did not disappoint.
I can’t believe your luck in landing the pod. My last seven drops my pod has rolled with all landing gear intact. The longest roll was over a kilometer from where it started.
1:05:01 "NO! NO GYRO!!!" that line had me in stiches!
Even as "old" as some of your tuts have been super helpful as I am just getting into the game. Hell, just watching the last one of these I had no idea I could walk up and chuck ore/components straight into cargo with middle mouse button stuff is a huge time saver!
I'm glad they've ended up useful :)
inspired again by you and Kana - I gave this a shot. After a couple of truly terrible starts managed 5.5 hours - though it took me ages to find Gold and Silver. Plus another couple of stupid mistakes, I think I could shave an hour off easily. Dunno if I have the focus to shave two plus hours off, but if I could get sub 4 I'd be happy.
It's an interesting challenge, but yeah the grind of doing it for hours at a time to try to do better is indeed tough
I'm so glad you decided to try and do it legitimately even with the jump drive bug - 100% the right call. Even not deleting earth, good call! All the more satisfying still making sub 3 hr despite it!
Yeah, it felt like the right call at the time and now I'm so glad I did it properly (bugs and all). When it gets patched at least I know I can knock another 10-15 minutes off the time 🙂
@@Flipsie you say that like it'll be easy 😉🤣 nah kidding I think it's something you'd for the most part always improve each run. Working out the minor details in sequencing etc.
I kinda wanna try the challenge myself now... so thanks for the inspiration
You should do one where you have to race to your first resource depot, build a ship, go to next planet...repeat..race!
It keeps out the totally random crapshoot on what resources are available when you land, that can toss the race out of wack from the gate.
Pretty sure you missed two lakes in the first fourteen minutes, you would have to fly to them.
As an advice from my experience, maybe that will work for you as well. Mark your Home base with a gps and a very colourful Text, any unique colour. If you go mining it just takes one peripheral look to know where to turn to, when you head back. What I usually do when being on a 3 mineral spot with my home base, i dug down to the shallow minerals vertically and the dig up a 45° tunnel as an exit, headin towards the colouful home icon. So next time you can just fly in without stopping and fly out without the need to change direction.. with a little practice this is really safe and quick.
best greets ! love the *race to..* idea ! Edit : I build a small container pretty soon, even before i build the assembler and I use that as a square hookup point to spead my later conveyors.. Sorry second ecit, I just heard your opinion on containers, so I just keep my comment for the fun of it ! :)
That's a really nice tip in general 🙂
For speed I probably wouldn't dig the hole back out (just because of the time it takes to dig it being unlikely to be made to by the time saved on future trips) but for everyday play I hope I remember that one as I think I'd like to share it with more people 👍
@@Flipsie sometimes I use warheads to mine. Just remember 25 m radius
Congratz on making it to Mars in under 3 hours Splitsie, even with the Earth/Jump drive bug.
I recon this will be a hard one to beat.
I hope so, I guess we'll see when kanajashi next gives it a go
"No one wants Capac." I'd team with Capac for the funny, heck with winning.
Capac's a whole heck of a lot more fun outside of competitive environments, he'd almost certainly agree with this without much prompting :D
Congrats on the amazing time. You achieved some wonderful splits, seeing as you were slowed down by the jump drive bug. ;)
Put a single drill on the drop pod as fast as possible. Five seconds of ship drilling gets you as much stone as a few minutes of hand drilling and unloading. Add drills engines and storage in small steps, between trips to get resources.
Use welders to cover the times when construction is throttled by parts coming from the assembler, and use that time to mine ore to keep the assembler fed. Try to keep the pipeline full at all times: refining ore, assembling parts, and building structures. Any time one of those stops, you lose time. Put speed modules on either the assembler or the refinery one at a time, depending on the one that's slower at the moment.
Building a drill on the drop ship required a basic assembler, to get that quickest you should have a basic refinery, you can keep the basic refinery working constantly with only a hand drill ergo the ship drill is not required till much later. At least that's my logic behind this, I'd be very curious to see someone work out a better way because then I'm learning something new about the early vanilla game and that would be pretty cool :)
Watched the head to head from Kana POV, so I have to watch this to restore Karma to the Clangverse
I love watching the efficiencies grow over time; you weren't grinding the landing gears before even landing on the first run lol
It's an interesting evolution for sure
Fist off... When you start your base... Build your refinery and assembler high enough off the ground that you can build your thrusters under them...
As for a fun note... Build a custom turret on the four sides of your ship with large thrusters on them instead of guns. Could possibly get away with only two thrusters for the whole build if they are on opposite aides of the ship... Set the turret control block to control the thrusters in a group and steer by aiming the opposite direction you want to go. Hehe it was just a thought
Why would you want to build thrusters under those heavy things? I'm leaving them behind so I want them somewhere easy to access from the ground and out of the way
Something happened to the landing gears these days... They seem to break more frequently, from weaker impacts.
Ouch! XD
If your gona crash - land on your drills! It normally saves you.
Also instead of reloading your game it can be faster to turn off the survival kit and press back space.
You have a super-fast gpu, try it on lower end one your be waiting a while for the unloading and reloading to happen. Tho I guess that ones a tip for other people XD
Can I just say, I do the restart thing until I get on the lake, but, seriously, this takes me a long time.
Yeah it really can take a while
@@Flipsie but also I was trying to land onto the ice. I had no idea how to retro the lander.
Just a couple of things that I think would speed things up.
T2 tools as soon as you get the basic assembler and T3 as soon as the advanced assembler is up and running and silver is available.
The effects of better tools compound so the sooner you get them the bigger the gain.
As soon as possible (before starting the miner mods) put a connector on the base.
The connector gives you storage and it allows you to connect the miner (while still converting it) so you recharge the batteries.
Put speed modules on everything as soon as possible.
Again speed modules compound so the sooner you get them the greater the benefit.
Yeah, I'd agree with all that. I felt like I did pretty well at keeping most things ticking over as I went along, definitely room for improvement but also soooo much better than I normally do :)
New race idea! Fire Capac into space at Mars with a beacon and first person to rescue him wins!
Or have the space pirates kidnap him and first person to rescue him wins
Regarding the comms thing, the Minecraft community managed to create a similar experience using a Mumble plugin - namely that of proximity-based voice chat, so as long as the Space Engineers modding API allows you to detect that, it shouldn't be an issue. I expect Mumble is going to be easier to mess around with since it's open source.
While I understand that you don't really want to get into the weeds with learning the entire map (and frankly I don't think it's really feasible - the earth-like planet has a surface area 2/3 the size of Tasmania with ore patches spaced something like 2km apart on average). However, while trying to find information that might help me to try and speedrun the game, I did discover that with the current ore-spawning system, Cobalt will _always_ spawn in Iron patches (and you have a 50% chance of finding gold there, too). There are some other patches that can have Cobalt, but they are rare. If you can't find the Cobalt, go to the opposite side of the ore patch to where you found Iron and just dig down a whole lot. It can be close to 100m down so you won't find it unless you either have a large grid detector or you know where to dig.
Hopefully that will save you some resets.
Don't feel to bad about not knowing what way to walk around what. We all do it time to time. :)
Splitsie, you should get the SE youtubers to each pick a non youtuber person maybe from their discord to team up, like a pro-am race, heck even invite keen :)
lol That's an intriguing idea
Ore under snow looks like faint yellow stains.
There's something special about the successful bugged jump being for 1,701 km. :)
Its a poor Space Engineer that blames his tools Splitsie! :-))
captcha card xD
I love the entro music.. let's me know I'm about to watch something exciting!
You could add more splits for more things - 1st wind turbine, basic refinery, assembler, Mining ship built, advanced assembler, refinery, modules, gold collected and whatever else you think is an interesting milestone. .
The reason I didn't was because things might get done in a different order so then the splits wouldn't work as they have to be linear 🫤
I still wonder about the flow of ores through limited conveyor port connections like are your left and right drills outputting their full potential through the center drill through the 1 small conveyor port through the cockpit? I feel like putting a cargo container between each drill to widen your drilling capacity and increase ore flow. Unless bottlenecking isn’t a thing… i feel like the drill just auto transfers out its total capacity to any available cargo hold.. i wonder if the cockpit fills up before the cargo containers did would that then dam up the flow? These are all things I never found any conclusive evidence to support either side.
Add new split, vomit cleaning at 1:08:00?`wonder how kanajeshi will match this one.
Ok, I know it must have been painful, but when you crashed the digger with the gold I nearly swallowed my own tongue ;p
Lol 😂
UA-cam suggested me this as I've gone into SE in the last few months, I'd be super interested to see how Splitsie approaches this now, the min-maxing in this could be so much improved with just evolution in how we play the game. Not sure if it'd be something he'd redo
It was pretty exhausting to do and in the end the time I got was about as good as I think I can get (without abusing physics glitches). The only thing that might allow it to be sped up is the presence of flat atmospheric thrusters, since you can build large ones of those relatively easily, giving you better power efficiency for the mining ship
Fun ride as always, Splitsie - I'm always so glad you let us tag along.
Not sure - but you might gain a few minutes building the jump drive before some of the other ship parts (like thrusters) as it can charge while you then build them - depends on whether you're waiting for gold/cobalt or not.
Tried to find the ship on the workshop but I couldn't find it among the absolutely HUGE amount of Static Grids posted there - any chance of a link? I honestly didn't expect there to be many Static Grids/Large Grids/Small Grids on the workshop, but there was over 700 pages of them!
Glad you enjoyed it, shortly after the stream I hid the workshop item as I felt bad for taking a front page slot from genuinely deserving builds and mods :P
Splitsie : the thinking man's thinking man.
I get that you don't want to use the "Deposit all ore, ingots and components" button (the button in the middle of the screen during transferring inventory, not the shortcut), at the beginning when you are microing everything in your inventory. But as soon as you start using the mining ship you could use "only inventories of current ship" combined with the "deposit all..." button in the middle. That could reduce mistakes and things to worry about.
Yup, I did start doing that after I was reminded to do so 🙂
losing power to the thrusters increases your chances of splatsie to appear
1:58:40 I can feel your pain from the Canary Islands. (A looooooong way btw) Ooff. That hurts
Lol yeah, that was rough 😂
46:44 Some very clever folks modded Among Us to utilise Discord for proximity chat, something similar might be possible in Space Engineers, which could allow all sorts of comms scenarios to be played out.
I think it could be a really cool way to play a series with a bunch of other people, you'd not know at the start who you would meet up with first and if you lost contact the hilarity of more than one person trying to fix the problem could be something special 😂
i never respawn at the start, some of the spawns ive had have been crazy too. second last one ship landed in a Au, Ag deposit on a mesa
Fun but i think there should be a limit to how many restarts you're allowed, maybe 6 then you have to take what you've got. Continuously restarting for the best location is not really what the game is about, it's about your skill in dealing with what you're given ?
I disagree. Look at any other speedrun community and you will see restarts are a fact of life. Weather it is restarting for a good RNG value or restarting for a good seed; it is hardly avoidable. And secondly how would you enforce it? It would just be the runners word that this was only his/her/their # restart. I do understand where you are coming from but unless set seed runs become a thing you are going to be forced to restart the odd time.
@@bukowskii because it's not in the spirit of the game. To quote Splitsie himself "It's something he's doing for entertainment" and my comment was posted in that spirit.
Sure there are people who devote themselves to the absolute best speed and good luck to them but i don't want to watch it. As for policing it who cares, the object of SE is that it's a sandbox to promote an individuals skill and abilities so in the spirit as illustrated by Splitsie, your speedrun time can be improved by having another attempt not by continuously restarting until "the weather is more favorable".
I'm racing kanajashi, we both agreed that restarts are fair game for all runs outside of the first race because we were both curious how fast it *could* be done.
@@MozoTyce1 Everyone has their own tastes I guess. I personally don't want to see a good run ruined because someone had to search for gold for 25 minutes. In any case, the answer is simple. Just like in Minecraft speedrunning, you have separate categories for set seed and random seed. People can compete in whichever category they prefer to play, and spectators can watch the gameplay style they like.
@@UthacalthingTymbrimi Absolutely agree, sometimes finding the right words to describe what i mean is... difficult !
im loving these speedruns =D i my self are running and trying to optimize a "All Planets %"
Good luck 🤞
@splitsie 's quote of the year: "i might be prone to choking" - you guys really need to learn about Phrasing.
Danger Zone!
I think a race to Mars when the 'vehicle' is an ugly clump if blocks is a bit unrealistic. It should be a standardized blueprint of a ship that an engineer would take to Mars and used as a head start. So it should include a basic refinery and basic assembler?
The idea is to allow some flexibility and decision making in what is actually taken there, being proscriptive by forcing a blueprint kinda went against the spirit of what I was trying to do
i think getting the refinery online from a small to large grid conversion would be a bit faster because that saves you a bunch of resources for the first turbines that must be made using the survivalkit.
also i believe while not at full speed refineries work when they have insufficient power. they make a lot of unhappy noises but still they should be faster and more efficient than the survivalkit even while running on a single turbine being able to throw in ores earlier will shave off a couple of minutes and because the refinery has a bigger inventory you can also throw in more stone at once and use the time inbetween for scouting ores
The Co-op Race to Mars would be fair. Wasted & Mack, Shack & Tex, Splitsie & Capac. Each team has their strength and disadvantage.
lol That's true
Ive done this Challenge on the last Weekend with an Friend.
First try we had to stop after 6h with an draw.
but second attempt on Sunday was a success for me ;) ive won the race in 8h 21min..
i was totally busted after this, but it was a fun play
It's totally exhausting, but agreed it's fun to do a couple of times :)
I wonder how long it will be before Splitsie gets bored of this challenge and comes up with the No-Jetpack-SpeedRun-Challenge.
Kanajashi Capac and yourself, make a great team.
I like it…. #BlameCAPACARD!!!!
This picture in picture thing in the beginning was doing my head in. My brain keeps wanting to expand the video to full screen.
Given the number of restarts, it almost feels like you're just better off taking the time to find a world and just basing runs of that or have someone create a speed run specific mod that helps to randomly generate what you need closer to your starting point a la guaranteed ice lake in visibility range, the relevant ores in that lake etc.
I get that these runs aren't meant to be super serious but it really feel like it bogs down the momentum of the runs when over 22 mins in and you're still looking for a starting planet.
That all sounds like a lot of work for me when I can just respawn and let others do the same. As the speedrun isn't the true end goal for me it was never in my plans. Plus as mentioned during the stream I want the random, I want the variability because having all of us start from the same place makes things less interesting in my opinion
@@Flipsie I got what you said on the stream regarding the random and the not seriousness of it all.
Anyhow, you do you as its your content. Just giving my 2c on the matter.
Oh ok i was right… so since you have opted to go cockpit you really should rearrange your thrusters cause cockpit is what unlocks them.. i recommend 3 up and 1 forward. After further testing.
A single large grid hydrogen engine weighs less than 1 large grid battery, has an output of 5000 KWH, compared to 1 wind turbine at around 460 ish? And that isn’t factoring in fog. The engine takes nearly an hour to charge a jump drive to full just by itself. A large battery only holds 3 MWH total but the battery can put out its charge a lot faster at 12MHW.. i feel like all you need is one base battery so no 20% loss all the time from the constant automatic battery balancing, 1 wind turbine and 1 hydrogen engine, and just get a load of ice here and there. I don’t think you need a full jump drive charge so the combined 17MWH output of battery and engine would be enough to charge it to full enough if you lift off as soon as the jump drive is done by the time you reach space. So it might be worth looking into even if you don’t go drill rig for the ice.
ORRR put 1 battery on your base to leave behind. One battery on your ship set to recharge till you need to charge the jump drive that way you don’t lose 20% and then of course the engine.
Clearly I think 3 batteries is overkill haha especially if you plan to go full *hydrogen thrust* haha i have a whole idea for that as well but ill hold off on that till next run maybe haha
I have yet to make a successful speedrun myself but will keep you posted as soon as I have time to try it.
I’m more of an analyst than an engineer I suppose.
Splitsie will you be inviting any more youtubers to compete against or are you going to implement combat in these races for more challenge and more reason to play more competitive?
I don't plan to, I've got some other stuff I'm working on that this is helpful for, but I'm always mulling over about 20 different concepts for new series or one-offs :D
Split you could when it comes to the point of having to mesmerize the plant you could change it to a race from the moon to mars just an idea
Lol that's a fair point
or Capac's challenges. you and someone else has to complete the challenges. bring him silver, then gold, then platinum and also uranium. you start with a drop pod that can fly properly. get the booty to large storage containers that capac guards. Capac "Bring me stuff", "bring me more stuff".
Congra
tulations!
@1:46 No mankinis you say...I wonder if someone has mentioned you wanting a mankini suit for your engineer in WWD to Chipstix :D Also, well done on the 3 hours but one question: Wasn't you supposed to have a beacon?
Nope, beacon wasn't part of it. The beacon was the flag in the first test idea 🙂
Also, not sure chipstix wants to model a mankini 😂
Looking forward to the next run. I wonder if scouting your lake "on foot" (jetpack) might be faster and less risky once you arrive at the lake.
It's faster to get to the deposits but your drill's detection range is shorter so it's mixed as to whether it'll save you time since you may miss things that are there or spend more time flying over the deposit to determine what's there - I'm in two minds over it and can't decide which is better
@@Flipsie The hand drill and the small ore detector have the same range, and it's easier the fly around with your jetpack to stand on the lake. Just take the time to replace a thruster and it's much easier to travel around.
With respect to the randomness of drop site... That makes it a race on different tracks. One player is on the 100 meter track, the other on the 110 meter track... or the inner lane and outer lane without the adjustments for actual distance.
Yes, and? I honestly don't see any issue here in the context of a race meant for entertainment. This is how some Minecraft and other speed runs are done so I'm happy to do it this way
hey splitsie you and the gang should try a pvp enhanced speedrun, where you guys are racing but also able to sabotage eachother ... :)
Something like that may be considered in the future, but in general most of us don't actually enjoy seriously shooting at each other's builds :P
sabotage ? I can see why your uncle creepy.
Great idea then Capac would be pretty handy -he just loves the chaos
You spend too much time mining resources by hand, and you don't take advantage of the survival kit being a secondary refinery once you get the basic refinery.
A stationary stone miner is pretty vital, and you preferentially want a refiner of some kind attached to your miner because stone compresses to refined materials better than hauling stone. Concentrated ores of the other types are nice, but as you learned with your silicon shortages, you need the distribution of resources most immediately.
You spend a lot of time in the back and forth of hand mining.
Also, cobalt and nickel are really really slow to process; they block the refiners from processing other things like stone and iron; early game you have few slots for refining whereas mid to late game you have vast refining complexes and you don't need to worry about competing processing needs because you can have a refiner for each material. I'd have to break out a spread sheet to quantify it, but stone processing is faster for getting silicon, nickel, and iron even if you get better yield for those individually from the dedicated ores.
Mid to late game, stone is garbage to be thrown out. Before you get your first proper refiner though, stone is the primary resource.
Also, understanding the value of stone at the beginning of the game smooths out a bunch of the start issues you've been experiencing. Find gold and cobalt definite start. Find cobalt probable start. No gold and no cobalt no start. Everything else can be filled in by stone.
To be explicit. A large drill is a huge investment of materials. Somewhere near to you getting the first basic refiner up, you should strap a small drill on your miner--not because it will fly and get all the other things but because it can mine around it without moving. The fact that you quickly get it flyable means you can use the miner to mine surface stone then hop when it exhausts or threatens to tip the miner.
For this reason, I prefer mountain starts with surface stone and ice; I know you prefer lakes and savanna, but I encourage you to try out mountain starts with snow plains. You'll want to rely on large grid detectors more than just visual acuity and luck for that.
If you use the client plugin mod, you can enable the Jump Selector plugin. That will allow you to use jump drives normally.
what is the problem with the jump drive right now?
@@GT86GT400 Apparently the planetary gravity is being calculated wrong and you have to go an extra ~50k away from a planet to jump
29:00 that's mean, but sadly true.
I feel like maybe I shouldn't have let that one dangle as long as I did, I very much meant - in a race in Space Engineers you don't want him on your team. I clearly want to play games with him though because I do it as often as he's available to :)
@@Flipsie np I understand it's was only meant in races. Capac makes the video 5x as entertaining :)
Well done Splitsie o/
When u had that empty battery issue with the first miner, would it have worked to put that one in recharge just a few seconds, or would that insta-empty one of the other 2 ?
Once I was in flight it was too late, I might have been able to shift some charge before then however it's worth remembering the 20% power loss you get on transferring power between batteries
next time keep the survival kit building steel plates with the iron from refinery, so you don't wait on the assembler
99% sure you ended up making the base (post crash) in the exact same spot that W4sted and friends were in for uncooperative survival at the start. (Same area where W4sted has the video of the loop of texfires weird miner bugging out)
(1:58:40) I knew it. You kept saying that you should go back but kept mining anyway. You never leave yourself a safety margin. Also while travelling you should turn off your retro thrusters. They slow you down, forcing your rear thrusters to use more power. Learn to coast
Both Kanajashi and you should have put a "dog timer"
To be fair I think that in the actual race you should not reset the timer with each restart, becasue if you find a realy sweet spot you gain instant advanatage if Kanajashi just sticks with whatever he finds on the first landing.
Or you could both respawn until you both find a spot you consider good, and then start the timer taking out the RNG mostly out of the race... Althoug "racing" not on a server beats the point IMHO if you have no real competitor ;)
We only planned on simultaneous play for the first one, all other attempts were always going to be solo 🙂
The harder it is for Kanajashi the less content you can do on this. If you keep beating each other by 5 minutes the series? can last longer.
To be fair I never intended to get under 3 hours on this run 😂
Small O2 gen, Cockpit, 2 H2 Small Thrusters, Gyro, Batt, Suit O2 Bottle, Ice, and about 5.55 hours at 100m/s.
Yeah, other than saving some face, finding a perfect start is a wee bit pointless as you'll always be subject to the moods of RNGesus when you're in a Player vs Player race - and clearly you'd done something to annoy RNGesus when you were up against Kanajashi.
Oh yeah, I got the rough end of things from that one :D
Seems like you need to find Iron Nickel Cobalt Gold Silver. In roughly that order. maybe Don’t take the time to mark Si and Mag especially if they are together with something else that isn’t super important Iron doesn’t seem to be an issue for you usually. But marking cobalt and landing on it first is paramount because thrusters moar!! Then u can search better once you cobalt/iron/nickel.
The restarts should be apart of your time.
Completely disagree as there's no way to control that if others pre recorded their runs
@@Flipsie I understand. It would be nice to be able to trust people to not cheat considering this is just for fun but competitive got a competitive I guess
OW my beautiful face!! xD
Not sure if you noticed, but your split timer reset with each respawn.
I manually reset it with each respawn as that was the way we set it up to be done :)
Are you not allowed to save your game at any point? I know I heard you turn off auto save so you wouldn't get caught in the loading loop again, but wasn't sure if you were not allowed to save or if that interfered with the timer or something? Just curious, love the dedication!!
There's no real benefit to saves since you can't really count a run that's broken mid way so it's sort of a one shot thing. But you could have autosave on for testing to allow you to try different things from various points to test better approaches/practice
@@Flipsie that makes sense, I appreciate the response! Would watch all 5 hours of another run!!
Thought the idea was fun so attempted my own run, got super lucky on an ice lake with gold cobalt and iron and was set to leave at the 3 hour mark but spent nearly 2 hours looking for silver and gave up and got burned out after 5 hours of straight SE.
Yup, it's so easy for things to go badly sideways :P
same here ... i literally landed on silver and found cobalt undef 5 minutes .... so i started building assuming gold is near silver .... nope it wasnt :(
I think survival is making the best of what you are dealt. Isn't making sure you have a good start cheating? What are you measuring for then? Which one of the 4000h gametime players can do the same thing faster?
You've just described speed running, that's the point, to see who can pick what makes a good start and then execute the necessary steps to make it work
Question, The Epic Time-lapse Music, and the one played on the Mars touchdown, what are they called?
Talking about capture cards and teamspeak! What year is it?!
TeamSpeak has better latency than discord, capture cards are a requirement for dual PC recording/streaming setups
Let Capac be the commentator and referee.
let him have a ship to go between the bases and make comments.
Yeah... but they are both in their own SP worlds.
I admit I thought Steve was a real person for quite a while
Should have made storage and ur refinery on the other side so ur welder could weld the refinery 4 u
I don't think the welder is faster than doing it by hand at that stage. Takes longer to make the parts and you should have minded enough to not need to be doing that with your time
@@Flipsie Tru but it will do it while u mine so u don't do it
Everyone builds very similar square or rectangle pancake miners I’m thinking of testing a post hole type design or toothpick or whatever you want to call it. Im hoping that with enough gyros and some restraint that i can get away with less thrust directions.
Since most miners have reverse thrust and upwards thrust its my thinking that i can slap a drill on top and right click my way straight up without even looking up so that would make leaving the hole relatively easy no matter which way you go down haha.. would make maneuvering to get the ore challenging i suppose… hmmmmm
Interesting thought, I'm not convinced it would be quicker but I'd kinda love to be proven wrong on that
As someone who doesn't play space engineers, why were you only doing 100m/s leaving the planet? In theory, the higher you go, the less air/gravity resistance, the faster you should be able to go? 100m/s is pretty damn slow
That's the speed limit for space engineers, the physics system is hard limited to that
we need a puppy cam
I'm hoping to show you guys more of Charli soon (in the planned Lego streams) 🙂
Wasn't the end goal to build an independently powered beacon on the planet?
That was a different concept. It was more of a test, after talking with kanajashi we decided this was a better approach
Next Race: With Assertive drones
You need 15 computers and 2 displays for a control seat, maybe queue that on start + unhide and group stuff, get one load of stone asap and start grinding all the needed stuff, then do the seat + gyro, great quality of life for later use of the miner, did not watch all the video yet, but the first run you lost some time on everytime having to seat, connect to remote control, control...
Huh, hadn't looked at the control seat as a cheap option. That certainly sounds like it's worth a try