Mercury Racing DSI Diesel Spark Ignition Outboard Motor.
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Brought to you by the guys at Mercury Racing. The DSI is a 175 hp diesel outboard motor. Built off the Mercury Opti Max platform this motor is smooth and easy to operate.
Made for the world of mother ship operations where one fuel is desired for the whole fleet.
These are awesome. Looking forward to seeing them out on the water.
At £40000 for the 200hp I don’t think we’ll see many. 😬
Somebody answer that doorbell!!!
I made a propane fueled outboard. No more fuel issues with crap ethanol in gasoline or water in fuels. I used two 40lb forklift tanks made from Aluminum. I estimate there's a slight decrease in HP but there is also a power decrease when using ethanol blended fuel,quite a bit actually because ethanol has roughly 20% less energy than straight gas. Anyway the benefits of propane far outway gas because of the inherent issues with gas on a boat. Ps...my engines are pre ethanol so this was a simple and viable option.
Did you stay with the the same oil injection or up the oil flow on propane! i thought ethanol gives more power, only when you are racing as its 113 octane and it cools as it goes. Etanal seem great for fun fuel but can be a hassle for every day use.
I see them everywhere because they are so great and everyone wants them!
Said nobody ever!
Best choice for work and travel!
Great move mercury marine, keep innovating
sounds like an opti , only louder. my 2000 225h opti was the best motor I've ever owned.
Opti is ?
@@feuersalamander2051 mercury optimax
Kick ass - They sound great
They sounds like my detroit 2 stroke diesel.
love it.. i would love the powerhead off them to mount to a base plate mounted mid section with a vertical impeller set up.. 8 remove flow controlled outlet valves and a single gate shutter valve probably a rotating disc valve with one opening, one area blocked and one grid opening for weedy areas this rotator plate would have external gear teeth cut to allow it to rotate remotely. . this could be mounted in the bilge with proper exhaust set up.. to supply all direction thruster water to sail boats.. and other power boats for in harbor and docking .. with diesel engines in the bilge.. no chance of explosion from gasoline vapors.. with sail boats.. no drag from a prop even a folded one.. spring loaded outlets also.. so they are self sealing with no pressure. envision how a PCV valve shuts off yet allows flow when vacuum is applied.
They sound like my power stroke under water crossing the creek.
Noisy, little blighters!!!
HOW...MUCH???? I've looked all over the internet..and the price (M.S.R.P. new) seems to be as closely guarded a secret, as the contents of the bunkers, at area 51!! How this guy did this test, without mentioning their price..is BEYOND ME!
The diesel NOT needing all that spark ignition is what made diesel so good off shore. Now you just turned them into regular outboards.
What happens when the spark ignition fouls out from soot?
Why are you asking me, I don't own stock in this thing.
@Mathiew Saavedra; I believe it was stated this is a low compression spark assisted configuration designed for user to use one type fuel for both propulsion systems.
@ Mathiew Saavedra; Maybe that's what blew out my stinkin speakers. I had to put my PC in the shop and am now using my fifteen year old dell vista back up.
looks great. Any numbers on how they stack up when comparing reliability and fuel efficiency to a normal diesel?
Im sure its ok and these 2 stroke have fewer moving parts. Diesel suck at making power and for the same boost pressure a gas engine 2 stroke makes way mmore power than a normal diesel. Ethanol with dfi with 2 stroke turbo is the way to go for me. And this 2 stroke is a dry sump with a vro pumps and the oil burns adding energy to the 2 stroke and you dont thro it away ever unlike a 4 joke. i riiged up my 8v92 2 stroke detroit with total loss and shes doing grerat on 6 gallons of xd-100 etec oil! This optimax is loop chared and it kind of works like the sun which is a giant plasma loop chaed 2 stroke. every lightning bolt is a plasma 2 stroke and ball lightning is a loop charged plasma rotary 2 stroke.
fuel burn compared to equal power gas engine?
Those sound awesome
Sounds like the idea of spark ignition diesel is an engine that will get some of the fuel economy of a diesel without all the weight or cost of the pure diesel.
I would love two x 20 HP version of this for my 4T catamaran, it would be perfect!
Look up yanmar marine outboards, I believe they have something in that range.
@@ThePinkPanth3r at 50HP and 175Kg they are too big and powerful, I would need something half that size
Whats the model number, really hard to find through dealers....
What's with the door bell sound?
Put that on top the sport jet. They basically are just Optis burning Diesel a progression from the Black max v6.
Pretty sure the "ringing" noise that everyone is talking about is from the cutting board.
It's the latch on the little door through the transom.
Exactly. Anyone that thinks Mercury would showcase a motor making that noise is being foolish and another comment about ox being better is a joke. Merc. Has had these motors a long time. A 2 stroke and diesel are almost the same anyway and with direct injection and a beefed up head for high compression there u go. Merc. Engineers are some of the best in any field and thier tech. Is used on way more than just boats.
love it, when can we expect option for recreational CC fishing boats?
i put those twin motors on the back of my power cat and i hit full throttle and i hit 47.9 mph and 5500 rpm
sounds a winner,tohatsu tried standard diesels but they say the motors did not stand the stress
I want an outboard that runs on urine and feces. And has excellent corrosion resistance and goes really fast and makes loud noises. U&F injection outboards are the future no bullshit
I want one,is it available on to the public and who to contact please
How much it's cost engine?
Звук очень похож на Mercury 2t , фамилия, понимаешь👍
What is the fuel burn compared to the gas version? Weight difference and most of all... COST comparison?
Could I run one on the back of my 28 ft pontoon? What kind of speed were you getting out there in this video? Cool video! Thanks for putting this up!
I bet Evinrude build a two stroke turbo diesel outboard first. They could almost do it now!
Yes that would be nice and make way more power than a 4 joke stroke diesel.
Well main line is how much they cost how they compared with a regular gas outboard
Second mortgage time!!!!!!!!!!
what is the fule use on the engines and how far can i can with 1 tank
Hi,please let me know the price?
How often will you need to replace spark plugs? I would imagine the diesel fuel would foul the spark plugs much more often then you would like.
Diesels dont have spark plugs...
@@zakelijk1986 facepalm. Most diesel engines do not indeed have spark plugs. This video however is about the DSI (diesel SPARK IGNITION) 2 stroke low sulfur on road diesel fuel spark ignition outboard engines. And yeah I had the same thought regarding spark plug fouling in a pure oil burning engine. Maybe they run hot enough to keep the spark plugs hot enough to self clean- like just ash the residue? But that's hard to do reliably, and seems like a set up for NOx emission maximum...? IDK
@@zakelijk1986 didn't watch the video did you?
It’s just a opti max. It wasn’t hard for them to do this. Optis are high pressure direct injection to begin with
I'll wait for locals here to buy and go from there.
What is CR for this engine? Must be much lower than regular diesels.
Are they good for long runs? are they reliable?
MAN them makes a LOT of noise
Estan uds. Con este mercado en Chile?
Why do they ring.?
And the reason they are diesel is because the navy / coast guard will not site gasoline on the mother ship for fire reasons
Lets see this boat with 4x175 on it.
did he say "spark ignition" ?
Are these motors 2-stroke diesels? How does the fuel consumption compare to the gasoline 2 stroke Optimax? What is the compression ratio?
I wonder if this diesel two stroke outboard operates with very narrow air-fuel ratio curves just like the gasoline fueled counterpart since the compression ignition engine varies engine speed by adjusting air fuel ratio. Hell, can anyone say if these outboards still use throttle plates? I visited Mercury's website and found nothing on these outboards, not even the outboards them self.
they sound like something is loose as hell back there
It is in no way a traditional Diesel engine. It's just a 2 stroke gasoline engine that has been modified to ignite diesel fuel by atomizing the fuck out of it and then igniting it with a spark plug.
Maybe sir. But that can't be the only change. You'll want a lot of spark energy if you hope to ignite diesel with an electric spark, at least at lower engine speeds where the engine is operating with manifold vacuum.
they use spark to ignite the diesel fuel other than compression as in a traditional diesel engine so they can up the RPM and not completely destroy the engine but still use diesel fuel because it runs more efficient and the longevity of the engine is greater than a gasoline engine
Aqui no Brazil nao temos esse previlegio de ter um motor desse os custo de imposto sao muito alto
It is of course shit, if not they have market it already. LOGIC!
High voltage plasma ignitions are becoming common...
If the engines have high enough compression AND glowplugs, I have to ask *WHY* there is a spark plug?
that is strange, why not raise the compression and but some type of bosch diesel injection pump thingy on them and make a 2 stroke diesel. It would be like a mini detriot with the reed ans seal off crankcase as the blower!
A 2 stroke diesel must have a blower, i think there isn't enough space to install. That's why they choose the spark plug.
@@riteshpahladsingh3819 You can use the crancase as tyhe blower. The sachs and hatz german 1 cyl diesel did this. Another one a big field marshall tractor at 300 CID per cyl and the Model 32 fairbanks more with 2100 CID per jug!
@@riteshpahladsingh3819 Hopefully these will remain in production, im not a fan of these ugly high strung 4 joke strokes.
@@riteshpahladsingh3819 Oh yeah you are wrong on that one! lok up field marshacc ultrapowerful 2 stroke diesel, the sachs, hirtf and JLO and lightning and the sun all are very powerful 2 strokes! The sun is thew ultimate loop charged stroke!
How to buy in Panama?
Man, they sound really loud even through youtube.
Are these available to the public yet ?
You do know they stopped making Optis a year ago right?
ThatBlueGuy 56 no I didn’t. I guess their is no alternative ?
How and where can I order one?
Diesel aí sim toptop
one day they might run on saltwater. (wishful thinking)
judging by the wake, they are in salt water lol
A Shore you didn’t understand that did you?
Nuclear fusion... E=MC2, based on that formula, freshwater would even have more power being heavier LOL!!
If you're using lower compression, aren't you wasting the potential energy advantages of the fuel source, educing performance and efficiency?
But really, spark ignited diesel? I don't get it. Is this in coordination with carefully timed fuel injection? Or lower compression spark ignited diesel?
Only reason could be low compression.
That's not how a diesel makes power and why no turbo?
@@scottwingate1235 You could turbo it if you wanted to. Diesels do not make as much power as gas engines and for the same boost bressure a a gas 2 stroke will have higher BMEP and whence more power and torque than an equal sized 2 stroke diesel.
being 2 stroke diesel, would these need additional oil like a pertol 2 stroke, or does the diesel provide lubrication as well?
Since the intake air does not go through the crank case, the lubrication is done the same way as a four stroke.
It uses 2 stroke oil and crankcase reed induction just like the Optimax gas outboard. Mercury Racing has specifications on their website.
@@sdvten Dry sump oil injected 2 stroke. there were some German 2 stroke diesels in the Rotavator that were true 2 stroke diesels. One of my favorive is the Sachs D600, there is a separate oil tank and the the oil gets pumped to the crankcase, hits the bushing bearings and and the burn up.
@@Aviator168 Its dry sump fed with vro pump like a gas 2 stroke, oil bruns up and adds energy to the 2 stroke which. there is no need to throw away wast oit like on a wet sump 4 joke.
@@jlo13800 Are you saying the air still go through the crank case?
Are they clean burn or do they give off much smoke. I mean, just look at the Rolling Coal and the amount of smoke they can produce is insane. I think the diesel outboard motors have been coming for a long, long time.
2 stroke rolling coal!
Oxe makes a dedicated Diesel OB.
Surprised to see you sawing the wheel while leaving the dock.
Twins rarely need to be turned in slow speed maneuvers.
Oxe does make a dedicated diesel.. And its hard to capture on film tight spots which allows the shallow thinker to draw conclusions based off what he sees and thinks he knows.
Or, you don't know what the hell you are doing at the helm. I can turn a 30' Pursuit with twins in it's radius w/o touching the wheel. Sorry I triggered you 'captain'.
Noted.. Thanks for your expert opinion.
Hmmm.... While not to question IAs knowledge of boat handling abilities, particularly based on your expert level on a 30' Pursuit and ability to "twist" with the best of them...
I think I'm going to put my money on the guy that has made his living for the last 30+ years on a variety of boats/vessels, up to and including Coast Guard rescue vessels, Mercury Racing boats, technical skiffs, Bay Boats, 75 mph center console fishing boats.
But what do I know, I was a qualified Master Helmsman in the Navy for ships up to and including Aircraft Carriers, have my own 35' Sportfishing Cat, a 80' Sportyacht, operate many of the same types of boats as Steven Lamp....
Pretty sure if I was going to find something to question him about, probably the last thing would be his .
helmsmanship.
But that's just me.
Island Aerial lol. have u drove a boat before?
Still not available on the market.
Can they run on cooking oil
I'm look 4 diesel boat now.....
They sound a lot like my 06 Jeep diesel. Lol
they sure are loud.
Did anyone catch where he said it could run the same fuel as the mother ship then at the end of the video say it takes a low ignition temp fuel verses offroad diesel just like all diesel boats so how in the world would it run off of regular diesel
Please tell us what a single engine costs !?
joe doakes I would guess,only a guess,since this is outboard,60K - 80K,and that is probably on the low side
THANK you , amazing technology but a serious investment .
How long do the spark plugs last with burning diesel instead of gas?
When are these going to be converted for airplane engines?
Tmobile Customer Already diesels for airplanes. My Diamond has two 2.3L diesels
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Похож звук на Меркури 2т👍
Waav mercury diesel
What kind of air induction system on these engines, Supercharged, turbo or naturally aspirated ?
Curious about them injection pressures too....
Supercharged by the crankcase and dry sump VRO oiled like the gas optimax.
Were all wanting to know the same question, otherwise these videos are pointless; HOW MUCH?
Did u ever figure out how much lmao
Io think a real diesel outboard engine will be a better choice, at this point. Oxe offer now an engine with the BMW 6L Twin turbo, a very fine diesel engine...
But I think those engines will remain a choice for few applications...
CAN YOU ROAL COAL WITH THESE BAD BOYS? IF SO I AM BUYING ASAP! I LOVE BLOWING OUT THICK BLACK SMOKE !
You like wasting fuel. You like buying 10 gallons of diesel and using 2 of those gallons.
David C Hug a tree
David C that's exactly why the government is cracking down on light duty diesel emissions, so enjoy it while you still can
Only reason you roll coal is because your shit is out of calibration moron. Your prolly living off the state so box of rocks
How did you get these? I read they weren't for sale to the public due to emissions. Maybe its changed I'm not sure
They stole 'em right out of a truck.
Omg. They are even noisy at idle.
Being thick here, what's the point of a low compression Diesel engine that must have low efficiency and why would you countenance needing to rely on a spark plug?
Seriously? Can't believe peeps are posting stuff here comparing these things to modern day outboards. They're mostly for the government, they were designed to fill a need from specs put out by the military. Things probably cost 60K apiece or more
Sound like a big repair problem nightmare. Buying a boat is a mega disaster with your money.
So how do they start in 0 degrees when i wanna go walleye fising in mn and wi all winter bet they dont
Not made for that lol
Cant wait to start seeing prolines rolling coal!
Words that shouldn’t go together. Diesel and spark. Wtf were they thinking.
And it's a real 175 horse too, probably at about 1700 rpm, not like those gas motors that barely make their rating at 5500 rpm.
Chris Namelast that's impossible to have that HP at such lower rpm, unless the torque curve abruptly decreases after 1700rpm.
This kind of diesel can get to 5000 rpm range.
It's nothing like a real diesel engine.
Seem as loud as my 7.3l diesel truck
Is this a compression ignition engine or purely spark ignition?
Lol sounds like it's a 2 stroke that runs on #2 oil, not an actual diesel engine.
Spark ignited DFI.
sounds like a mac truck
Why does the engine somke on start up?
Just like all diesels when cold on start , some fuel gets inducted and atomised but exhausted un-ignited before engine lights off and runs.
with the spark do they run and start ok in cold weather... lots of boaters here in minnesota.
Where did you buy them from mate??
pilots71 they sound like broken sewing machines, or optimaxes.....
Ooohhh wait THE NOISE must be THE DRY CLUTCH borrowed FROM DUCATI PANINGALE RIGHT ??? LOL Baaaahahahahahahahahaha 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜
they clunk and still smoke
perfect ay?
Mercury diesel. Yeah, should last long..ok.
Steve Miller ....Is a Outboard Rep now.......What happened to his Singing Career ??????🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
listen to them rattle
typical mercury
You're shitting me! Proline's still in business?
Olá onde posso adquiri um motor de popa diesel?
Spark ignition diesel?
Diesel Spark Ignition
You mean glow plugs...
Not actually a diesel?
Y they sound funny like old diesel and not smooth truck sound ?