Forget Pentatonics!

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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    Just when you think all the masters are burning through solos with pentatonic scale language Adam makes an argument for the hexatonic scale. This slightly altered scale makes all the difference when trying to emulate the great improvisors of this music.
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  • @brian106699
    @brian106699 2 місяці тому +74

    This stuff is like standing on a glass box looking in. I see it. I hear it. BUT I CAN’T TOUCH IT!! I’m still here though. E’ry day as we say in St. Louis.

    • @granddaddy_funk
      @granddaddy_funk 2 місяці тому +4

      I've been trying this stuff for like 2 years now(I'm a classical pianist with like 15 years of experience) . You gotta keep going. I'm only now starting to get a little better at jazz improv.

    • @peterkrinke3855
      @peterkrinke3855 2 місяці тому +4

      Lol I like that metaphor

    • @dougwintersbks
      @dougwintersbks Місяць тому +1

      EXACTLY. It’s like watching a magician and think “Oh, that’s how he does it.” Cool! But…c’mon. But I’ll keep sheddin’ if y’all will!!!!!!!!

    • @geocosmicvalentine
      @geocosmicvalentine Місяць тому

      Just touch the piano, splash around, be a gold fish. Even play it badly on purpose and you’ll be shocked at what it leads to. 🙂👍🏽

    • @paulrhodesquinn
      @paulrhodesquinn Місяць тому +1

      You’ll get there! A little bit every day 😊

  • @hugosesolis5720
    @hugosesolis5720 Місяць тому +28

    I've spent 163 hours watching open studio's videos about pentatonics, and now you ask me to forget it??! YOU MONSTERS ;-)

    • @Zxx459
      @Zxx459 Місяць тому +1

      Charlie p.
      Said it"
      Master it.then forget it"
      You do the math😊

    • @SunnyRawka
      @SunnyRawka 13 днів тому

      Like classical training!!! 😸

  • @RyJohnsonMusic
    @RyJohnsonMusic 2 місяці тому +24

    These etudes are some of Adam’s best pedagogical work! I’m going to be shedding these for weeks :) even Peter seemed really impressed

    • @pianopeter
      @pianopeter Місяць тому +6

      indeed

    • @RyJohnsonMusic
      @RyJohnsonMusic Місяць тому

      @@pianopeter maybe a video about how Coltrane uses pentatonics would be a cool follow up- a more unique approach to “taking it out” with pentatonics. There’s a good Ramon Ricker book called “Pentatonics Scales for Jazz Improvisation” that has a chart of superimposing pentatonics and their relative “outness.” Great work as always :)

    • @Zxx459
      @Zxx459 Місяць тому

      You are on the wrong path....

    • @RyJohnsonMusic
      @RyJohnsonMusic Місяць тому

      @@Zxx459 what?

  • @arnogoossens9892
    @arnogoossens9892 Місяць тому +12

    This is top notch music-educational content, guys... It has everything. Clear establishment of concept, clear explanation, very clear examples, virtual piano, scores, examples of further application, everything... It's very accessible stuff.

  • @SuperMANgino
    @SuperMANgino Місяць тому +12

    The virtual piano makes these episodes so much better to learn from. I hope you all bring it back!!!

  • @buttunz
    @buttunz Місяць тому +15

    Peter that shirt fly af.

    • @arnogoossens9892
      @arnogoossens9892 Місяць тому +2

      Haha, went back to the video to check the shirt and now I'm thinking "which one is Peter"? xD They both have cool shirts.

  • @opndmind
    @opndmind 2 місяці тому +7

    Thank you for wonderful inspiration! I've cancelled the rest of my schedule today to work on this. Pure joy!

  • @jarediledundee
    @jarediledundee Місяць тому +4

    Did I just watch the best jazz lesson on the internet? I think it could be!! I too associated THAT sound with the pentatonic scale. I stand corrected though, thanks to this lesson. Off to the practice room I go! Thanks gents, I really appreciate all you do for the fans of this music

  • @zweiwelten3384
    @zweiwelten3384 Місяць тому +1

    I have always loved this McCoy Tyner sound. And now I thank I have got the hang of how to get there! Thank you so much, Adam, for this lesson!

  • @amileoj9043
    @amileoj9043 Місяць тому +1

    This is one of those extra special Open Studio episodes that seems to turn a key and unlock a long standing mystery. Agree with others: great pedagogy from Adam and having Peter as our 'student proxy' really helped bring the sesh alive. First rate work guys!

  • @musiccreation1198
    @musiccreation1198 Місяць тому +4

    Holy moly Adam & Peter... phenomenal content...dare I say, best ever?

  • @alejandro913ify
    @alejandro913ify Місяць тому +1

    I myself play guitar and this was immensely helpful for my playing! Thank you so much. This amazing. And the piano on the screen is a must have😮

  • @jorgeguimaraes8820
    @jorgeguimaraes8820 Місяць тому +2

    18:00 that chromatic major minor lick is a signature khachaturian move

  • @raphaelbetemps7106
    @raphaelbetemps7106 Місяць тому

    I practiced jazz 30 years ago and stoped playing for many reasons. I havent the skills and the ear to understand everything but you approch opened up a way to grab a new sound and getting out of my pentatonics beguiner habits. Thanks a lot for sharing this knowledge
    (Raphael guitar player from france)

  • @KMGWorryFree
    @KMGWorryFree Місяць тому +1

    Fantastic information being shared here! I am a guitar player and absolutely love superimposing pentatonics in my solos. Combining these triad pairs is a total ear opener! Great stuff guys! We love this channel

  • @gabrielbotsford791
    @gabrielbotsford791 24 дні тому

    A lot of crazy things happen when you remove the Major 6th from your target/sound/approach/what have you.... Great content as always gents!!!!

  • @georgehiggins1320
    @georgehiggins1320 Місяць тому

    Nobody talks about this enough. There's so much instruction on the internet for bebop language (which I LOVE btw). But pentatonic language to me seems like it's always been associated with an air of ineffable mystery. Thank you all for talking about it and breaking it down!

  • @JP-hb4mv
    @JP-hb4mv Місяць тому

    could not get a better format than this, great work

  • @alchemysticgoldmind4164
    @alchemysticgoldmind4164 Місяць тому

    I am guitarist and I look at and steal from you guys regularly .This Hextonic thing made me go down the rabbit hole...Whew..man all I can say is thank you...cause it changed my way of playing. This is one of the secret sauces.Benson and Satriani use this you can here it in their playing..Playing Pentatonic +the 7 and dumping the four..makes lines come alive.. melodic..Thanks guys

    • @clayousmore2543
      @clayousmore2543 Місяць тому +1

      I am here to do the same thing bruh😂😂

  • @strat1227
    @strat1227 Місяць тому +1

    Love this so much. It's such a great feeling to hear my playing level up in real time after working with one of these videos. Like I just unlocked a new ability and now it comes natural. Thanks a ton

  • @turing999
    @turing999 Місяць тому

    This is an absolutely brilliant way to do a deep dive into solos. Love the dialogue. This will deepen the experience when listening next time.

  • @LostSoulAscension
    @LostSoulAscension Місяць тому +1

    I freakin love you guys man. ❤ So fun to watch and listen to the Jazz between y'all.

  • @GizzyDillespee
    @GizzyDillespee 2 місяці тому +1

    Whoa: "peace... and piano", and a change-up on the outro! All I got's the Reface (i.e. minikeys) here, so I'm not practicing any muscle memory anything today. But that 2nd etude sounds like something I'd want to play anyway, etude or not.

  • @jacklynam5653
    @jacklynam5653 2 місяці тому +2

    Return of the good thumbnails!

  • @chrisholland6080
    @chrisholland6080 2 місяці тому

    Even though I'm greatly reducing the Information Treadmill, I've been over to the piano to run through these. They lay real nice, very applicable to my solo and trio work. Thanks, gentlemen!

  • @klodinsky3132
    @klodinsky3132 2 місяці тому +5

    Best series❤

  • @MinhPham-ly7yp
    @MinhPham-ly7yp Місяць тому +1

    Hi. Great lesson. Can someone illuminate why McCoy Tyner and others were obsessed with pentatonics in this era? And playing them against quartal harmonies? Thanks.

  • @Gnurklesquimp2
    @Gnurklesquimp2 Місяць тому

    Triads are awesome. Something fun to try is pair 2 triads that dont fit in one of the modes together and reflect the pairing in the voicing and/or the way the chord is broken up. Like a particular bit of modal interchange? Well, what if they were both derived from the same scale after all? Major 1 + minor 4 is a classic example that works well. Lets say you do some classic interchange stuff with that, then BAM, the combined scale.

  • @randyhetlage9202
    @randyhetlage9202 2 місяці тому +3

    thanks, I was needing this.❤

  • @Milkyfish7
    @Milkyfish7 Місяць тому

    Love listening to you guys talk and play! Many thanks ❤

  • @machinate
    @machinate 2 місяці тому +4

    I do algorithmic music (computer generated stuff), and moving from pentatonics to hexaphonics has really lifted my recen work! Still working on "taking it out" without sounding like "PROGRAM ERROR", heh.

  • @nilkilnilkil
    @nilkilnilkil 2 місяці тому

    Great lesson! I love that kind of piano playing, like McCoy tyner and chick Corea, as you demonstrated, yippee !!!

  • @alangonzalez4552
    @alangonzalez4552 Місяць тому

    You're great, guys! Thanks so much for every video

  • @rosaliedeneubourg3225
    @rosaliedeneubourg3225 Місяць тому

    Hexatonic Is like mixolydian without the 6. Nice❤

  • @MaxGaming65
    @MaxGaming65 2 місяці тому

    You should do a video on the genius of petrucciani, i feel like he’s not talked about enough and he’s amazing!

  • @lukeserrano62
    @lukeserrano62 Місяць тому

    Superb lesson; many thanks.

  • @taliassa383
    @taliassa383 Місяць тому

    Wow, fantastic lesson.
    Transcriptions only for members ?

  • @deandredavenportspeaks6611
    @deandredavenportspeaks6611 Місяць тому

    I love these guys

  • @dskinner6263
    @dskinner6263 2 місяці тому

    Great upload. Thanks 👍

  • @francoissalace5907
    @francoissalace5907 Місяць тому

    merci!

  • @noelbrown6058
    @noelbrown6058 Місяць тому

    Thanks! Great stuff!
    BTW…where can I get a “LAPTOP Prop” like those?

  • @paulosinetti
    @paulosinetti 2 місяці тому

    Muito bom professor! Feedback: o som do piano ficou muito melhor aqui na transmissão (parece um timbre diferente com um leve 👏👏

  • @tradingwithwill7214
    @tradingwithwill7214 2 місяці тому

    This is great thanks

  • @Zxx459
    @Zxx459 Місяць тому

    Guys dont be fool by these GUYS ...FOLLOW YOU OWN PATH.

    • @kzeich
      @kzeich Місяць тому

      Yes. It's easy to lose your identity as a musician

  • @Threlgar
    @Threlgar Місяць тому

    Sorry to be A Grump:: I clicked the ling for the pdf but it never has arrived, even thru multiple requests!! But this vid kicks butt to explain cCoy's sound!!!

    • @OpenStudioJazz
      @OpenStudioJazz  Місяць тому

      Please email support@openstudiojazz.com and we'll get you setup!

  • @xXAjaxXx
    @xXAjaxXx Місяць тому +2

    What do you mean by "pentatonics"? I don't recall ever hearing that word before....

  • @poonnawat9178
    @poonnawat9178 Місяць тому

    Is there a similar thing for dominant minor chords?

  • @demsi2004
    @demsi2004 2 місяці тому

    Please, could you analyze left hand of Wynton Kelly in the future?

  • @MrFedemoral
    @MrFedemoral Місяць тому

    Adam!, is this transcription available somewhere in OS through soundslice ?

  • @davidlewis6762
    @davidlewis6762 2 місяці тому

    Wow, love that shirt Peter - can you drop a link to where we can find it??

    • @pianopeter
      @pianopeter Місяць тому +3

      Father's Day gift from my fam - they have way better taste than me

  • @gillan5
    @gillan5 Місяць тому

    Allman Brothers used it.

  • @richardc1129
    @richardc1129 Місяць тому

    so a mixture of mixolydian and pentatonic? there's that flat 7th.

  • @genghismccann7659
    @genghismccann7659 Місяць тому

    Is there an equivalent for the minor pentatonic? fm and eb?

  • @medislam6961
    @medislam6961 2 місяці тому +4

    What happened to the other channel

    • @pianopeter
      @pianopeter Місяць тому +3

      stay tuned...

    • @lrsmth06
      @lrsmth06 Місяць тому

      Also make sure your piano "stays tuned"

    • @medislam6961
      @medislam6961 Місяць тому

      @@lrsmth06 midi keyboard gang here

  • @pianoman_JP
    @pianoman_JP 2 місяці тому

    Great stuff guys, thanks & GALA!!

  • @turtlespiritflutes7570
    @turtlespiritflutes7570 Місяць тому

    The Wonton Scale

  • @dagadbm
    @dagadbm 2 місяці тому +1

    i wonder if you could explain this with the diminished family of barry harris.

    • @dagadbm
      @dagadbm 2 місяці тому

      yes you can.
      So F7 originates from C dim7. You know what else originates from C diminished 7? Eb major 6 and F6 (notice the E for the hexascale).
      man you can apply barry harris to EVERYTHING. this is INCREDIBLE.

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee 2 місяці тому

      Triad pairs but major-major instead of major-diminished, is all I got so far... but now McCoy is playing so much more, too😂

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee 2 місяці тому

      Now that I'm close to the end... this hexatonic scale sounds more like lydian dominant than diminished 6th, to me. But it's more natural for me to think about it as triad pairs, just as they framed it, really.

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee 2 місяці тому

      I mean, it's kinda the major pentatonic scale with the lydian note added. Many ways around it, I guess. Paraphrasing Adam, it's all the chromatic scale, and we're highlighting different flavors within it, with each phrase.

    • @MinhPham-ly7yp
      @MinhPham-ly7yp Місяць тому

      @@dagadbmI get C dim = F7 and F6. But don’t you need C# dim to get Eb6?

  • @kwgm8578
    @kwgm8578 Місяць тому

    Sorry guys, but I can't read that -- the transcription is way too small. But I hear the chord shifts and understand what he's doing. This is quartal.

  • @ili626
    @ili626 2 місяці тому +2

    Wait a minute.. Some of us are learning pentatonics from your previous lessons. But now you’re telling us to forget all that? You now say it’s all about triad pairs? Well, I’ve decided it’s all about 31-TET ok.. so there

  • @millerboymusic5954
    @millerboymusic5954 2 місяці тому

    🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @markbra
    @markbra Місяць тому

    Gen x, good lord 😥

  • @skyhr
    @skyhr 2 місяці тому +5

    I want to see you guys get drunk and have an improv 1 hour jazz session
    Make it happen!!! :))

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee 2 місяці тому +1

      That's only for the Open Studio Pro Premium Subgum Deluxe "You Buy, We Fly" sessions

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee 2 місяці тому +1

      In case anyone takes my intention wrongly... I was implying that it would be way too entertaining for us to deserve that as a free video🤣

  • @DouglasMades-ck8yi
    @DouglasMades-ck8yi 2 місяці тому +1

    A short string, for me, can be musical, but a sustained long solo of non singable strings of notes just doesn’t do it for me. Ear of the beholder.

    • @tomsiegel9759
      @tomsiegel9759 Місяць тому

      Same

    • @zekielrodriguez5229
      @zekielrodriguez5229 Місяць тому

      Fair. But just remember to stay inspired and working at it, and I also think it’s a good idea to learn new things and challenge yourself for its own sake.
      I don’t necessarily think the best version of you as a musician is the one that prioritizes trends and doing the most impressive and esoteric thing, but the one that is inspired and works at their own vision.