What Is This Build? Light Gauss Rifle Atlas AS7-D-DC - MechWarrior Online
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Neither the light gauss nor the Atlas D-DC are known to be good in MWO. So you'd expect a light gauss Atlas to be a joke... or is it?
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Yea, I can see this build. MRM's to remove armor, two rapid re-charge hole punchers for the kill and the snipe.
Will try this. TY!!!
Hope you like it :)
Nice thoughtful vid as to be expected from blackhawksc. Two thumbs up. Will dust off my atlas and try this. Thanks for sharing!
Always feel that Atlases should be somewhat relevant. Waiting for the IIC to emerge.
Never would have thought that this would work. The actions speak louder :-)
NICE! I haven't even looked at my D-DC in 2+ years on my main account. Makes me want to dust it off and try it again. Great job.
I run the uac/5 build with 2 LLAS in exchange for a slower engine and 3 mrm10's and it works like a charm. It solves the low burst problem, and with the lower armor quirks the triple missile equipment helps tank crit damage vs 2 large mrm30's.
VERY NICE AND WILL TRY IT OUT...THANKS FOR THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE MWO COMMUNITY...!
Dude, you made a good use for light gauss. Well done. I have a few mechs that use light gauss and while they can be effective I tend not to use them because light gauss is underwhelming but I think this build looks like it might work. You might also be able to make a stealth armor build work too.
The twin LGauss is basically an AC16 in terms of damage, a really solid, if underused weapon system. Another fun build with LGauss is the quad LGauss King Crab.
-Orpheon- I’ve done that before. It’s fun but you better try and bring back up weapons for when your arms inevitably get shot off
I really enjoy your videos in 2022. I wish you would make some more that account for changes since your previous ones. I’d love some more cool builds.
I like the build a lot. Very efficient. Fits a role. The 2 Gauss give KO punches late game. Very nice.
I think so too, it seems like the MRMs are good at opening up components and the LGs finish them with more precision.
Dude you came to my suggestions and I loved your background music choice and the way you give info but you gotta get a better mic man
From my perspective I don't hear anything wrong with the mic. Maybe you can point to where you hear issues. I'm just using a regular headset with a mic attached rather than a standalone mic.
I have see LB20-X and MRM build sans ECM run by Juju. This is a very counter-intuitive build. Thanks for the vid!
You're welcome! The D-DC without ECM would just be worse than the -D in every way I think.
you should post the build layouts in the description... that would help a lot
very nice...will try it out...thanks for the contribution...
...Don't tell TTB.
Oh? Why?
@@BlackhawkSC TTB isn't a fan of light guass. But he likes interesting builds, I feel like he could dig this.
Neither am I. But yeah I've found a couple of niche weapon combos for the LG that works.
@@gfarrell80 Yeah, TTB"s point goes along the Weight to Damage argument that is mostly used to favor "actual" Gauss Rifles over the "Light" variant. However, there are a few IS mechs that have really good Ballistic Quirks, and are in the 55-to-65 ton range, that can fit twin Light and actually produce some impressive / useful damage numbers, over the course of a battle (especially on a longer-distance map). I had great success over the weekend messing around wtih a Rifleman-3N, as it has Cooldown Quirks that allow shots in like 2 seconds (appx) between salvos -each time striking pinpoint damage of 16, to an enemy component. Even a single hit or two gets a Mech to take cover often, and the range you can engage from is over 1000 meters, on that mech, so they don't even see you in most instances (or can't reasonably return fire). It's surprisingly fun / good :-)
Do you guys have the video link? I'd agree with TTB that the regular gauss is in most cases better. Also consider when the video was made because there was a time when alpha size > DPS. Currently if you can sacrifice tonnage and some slots for dual LGs, you'd rather do that. It is very niche but there are situations where it works. I don't think there's a place for single LG right now.
Double light gauss are nice and can be used on several different builds. I got them on a highlander also .
Dude! Thank you!!. I used to be known for my atlas and it sits on the shelf. This build helps a fuck tone
Update!!!. Took it out last night and did 1148 damage on terra therma. Dont think i had 1 game under 500 damage!
I made this same build when the MRM and Light Gauss where introduced. Before it was dual UAC5 with SRMs.
If you aren't the main focus it works ok ok.
Solid analysis!!! Good job!
I really like my d-dc setup with 2 rac 5s a d 3 mrm20s it is warm but seldom do things want to face you and will often turn and run ussualy cored and 1 touch if at all.
This is the only Atlas I own. I tried MRM and RAC5s - didn't work, indeed. Brawl builds didn't work either.
I now run 2 LBX10 and MRM60. That's quite nice. I will give this one a try!
The only Mech I run LGauss on so far ist the Fafnir 5, just for fun.
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Yep that's all I suggest is to give it a try. It may or may not work, but it's pretty cool ;)
@@BlackhawkSC
I took the build out on the ECM Cyclops. It has less structure than the atlas, but considering the Gauss rifles explode anyway with the first hit.. well. ;)
What can I say? I did pretty well in the first attempt (700 dmg, 3 solos). Maybe it was just a fluke, though. So I have to play it more often. :)
2 LGauss with 4 tons of ammo, MRM50 (40+10) with 4 tons of ammo, LFE 300 (53 kp/h) and ECM. Not the fastest Cyclops you can get, but still enough to manage.
Thanks for the idea! I always went with AC10/LBX10 so far in the combination with MRM.
tha
@@HHHThanatos glad you like it so far. You might be able to shave off a half ton of LG ammo with the 2 magazine capacity skill nodes if you find yourself with a lot left over by the end of the match, but you'll only know from experience.
Miss your videos mate
Weird builds!!
cool idea. def worth a try!
ECM? What are you? A coward? RS: 4xMPL 2xMRM10 AC20. This is a mans build
Only MRM20? That's not a man's build ;)
No but seriously, yes the DDC has to be played a bit away from the enemy. Otherwise you'd just take any one of the other Atlases since they're all better at brawling in some way.
RIP direbro
ikr :(
The Wolfhound is the only light I would put an LFE on, but it is still a toss up.
Interesting build. I'll try it. I've tried using dual light gauss on the rifleman. It's ok. But I have to use the rifleman that has 4 laser hard points for close defense.
Man do u deserve more viewers
Did something similar on my old Founders AS7-D and its a fun combination.
I went with twin lbx10's 3 srm6s and medium lasers, of course range is a issue.
Quad light gauss KGC-001(S) Go :D
Also sweet on a fafnir for the ecm
In the same spirit - I was hearing people say Victor Dragon Slayer is impossible, last week, what with the event on....
What about MRM50, 4 tons, 2xHPPC, a JJ, XL340, 13dhs, and all the heat management in the world?
Do you think you could poke and cool and reposition effectively in that mech?
If you get rushed you're inside range for the HPPC but you're too hot anyway, just using the MRMs and running away...
I came up with a build that was slower and had another heat sink. Still spicy; I almost think running away is better than trying to cool the damned thing faster.
Is this still a crap build for a crap mech?
Or do you have other ideas for it?
Sounds like a pretty hot build. I have PPC/MRMs on a Highlander. I never featured it in a video because it just was too bad.
Hey Bhawk, I understand using smaller launchers to account for missile tubes availability and placement but why run 2xmrm20, 1 mrm10 instead of mrm40xmrm10 giving you 2 extra tons? Even though it's a .5 second longer cooldown on the mrm40, does it give that much of an advantage with the smaller launchers?
Mainly the desynced cooldowns on the MRMs would make it harder to time the twists correctly. The MRM40 also has higher spread than the 20s and 10s.
I run dual guass on my maurader two and it is super good.
good vid as usual but man do you need a pop filter
Hehe, help me buy new audio equipment ;) I apply a de-esser filter on my videos already but I know it's not perfect. I'm gathering ideas for my Patreon, so if you have suggestions, let me know.
I've been playing this game on/off for about a year now and I've been building an IS drop deck. Do you recommend playing FP or is it really as bad as people say?
FP can pretty epic, but it's best to join an organized unit before heading in. Going into FP without at least some initial guidance will not be pleasant. The reason is that people who have been playing FP for a long time will optimize their decks for specific maps and modes. If you go in without an optimized deck, you're at a severe disadvantage. Units will help you decide which mechs you should buy/bring to each drop.
If you haven't seen my FP deck building video for beginners, check it out ua-cam.com/video/mBdS_zEWPwg/v-deo.html
Torso nodes are something I don't hear other MW-tubers talk about.
How important are they in assault mechs, if you don't mind me asking?
Usually they're not a priority because they add small percentages to what are usually poor base values of assault mechs. But if you have nodes left over, like I do on this build, then look for ways to address torso issues like yaw, pitch or twist speed. For example, since all the weapons are torso mounted, pitch can limit what kind of shots you take as you saw with the Wolfhound at the end. Torso speed is always nice to have since it allows you to both aim faster and defend faster.
@@BlackhawkSC thank you very much 💜
That atlas is eligible for stealth armor
This maybe a newb question, but why two MRM 20s and a MRM 10? One MRM 30 and one MRM 20 had the same weight, slots and cool down but has less heat.
This is a very good question. You'll see that the heat isn't a factor on this build. However the 20 and 10 have lower spread and missile health per missile than 30.
@@BlackhawkSC Thanks for the information, very good to know.
Is uac5+uac10 good as an alternative, using double tap alpha then twist?
You can try it. I think you'll find it to be a little toasty.
@@BlackhawkSC ty
Would it be detrimental to add stealth armor? replace the MRM's with SRM's and a larger, standard engine?
That's something you could try. I think another commenter runs it. The main downside I think of is that you can't achieve 50 points of damage per salvo with SRMs and it forces you to engage at close range where neither regular ECM nor stealth are going to hide a 100 ton mech very well.
@@BlackhawkSC oh ok i was thinking of the SRM's as being secondary weapons for late match
I see... in this build the MRMs are actually your primary weapons.
@@BlackhawkSC ok i took the build in the wrong direction. i was thinking the MRM's were the follow up for the holes the Gauss were making.
i have 2 mechs with light gauss the bnc-srand cyclops 11-p with stealth its the only gauss i will use cause i cant stand the 5 sec cool down
I think you've sort of found one of my other LG builds, the BNC-3E. The dual LGs pair pretty well with the IS large laser right now. The 3E has a little better hardpoint locations than the Siren for that build.
I run 2 Light Gauss on the 11-P also. It's a lot of fun. Not as durable as the Atlas but moves and twists a lot quicker.
why is your UI different?
like your points are to the side rather than right above the map
You mean the text that shows the rewards? There's a "Classic" option in the settings for Reward Display Mode.
Try a Lgauss and Regular Gauss together.
You'll have desynced cooldowns on the gauss and you'll give up the LFE though.
@@BlackhawkSC That's very true, but it is hella fun!
THIS IS MY BUILD WTF EVERYONE GIVES ME SHIT ABOUT IT TO FUCK EM WHAT DO THEY KNOW BETTER WITH STEALTH
Isn't MRMs dead?
What do you mean dead?
@@BlackhawkSC like a Kit Fox with 3 AMS will stop all of the missiles kinda dead.
@@Sonofabyss have you seen the AMS performance test video I did? An MRM10 will go through triple AMS, let alone MRM50. Of course it's not ideal to be shooting mechs under AMS coverage, but it'll still work.
@@BlackhawkSC yeah, that was a great video by the way (the AMS one) - quite fascinating !
* and Blackhawks is right that MRM's tend to fire at such close ranges (relative to Clan ATM's or most LRM barrages) that the AMS cannot properly shoot them all down, and the targeted mech still takes good damage. Obviously the larger the salvo (MRM-30, 40) the more potential for some of it to 'get through' the AMS screen, but it's still worth it to use them in the close-range Nascar rotational stuff we see so often these days (on many maps, at least).