The Position: Why the Tour Pro's are so good! Can you learn this?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- The Position that makes the difference between a Tour Professional and the rest. Can you learn this?
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This is one of the best analyses I've seen about how to get to this position. Great job!
Outstanding video! I have been obsessed with ideas and drills for fixing early extension, forward shaft lean, clearing the hips, getting the chest open, squatting down, head moving down, and delaying the strike (casting at the bottom). This is the best explanation I have seen for relating all these concepts and WHY it is important to get the hips open at impact. Thank you!
It can not enough be emphasized how important this instruction is, it helped me a lot, thanks again Jonathan
wow I haven't seen anyone even trying to slow-mo the pro swing in real-time. That's a feat in itself. What I'm taking from this is get right shoulder down, head almost horizontal while keeping the left hand ahead as long as possible at all cost.
This is the most important golf video you'll ever watch. This works incredibly well to get your club face on the ball and send it straight toward the target. The one thing is that it is VERY difficult to do, as Jonathon mentions in another video.
Perhaps one of the best golf instruction videos ever made! If you can do this you can play golf. A keeper this one to watch over and over again.
How does Jonathan Taylor barely have 45k subs?! This stuff is pure gold!
Fantastic! Just yesterday at the driving range I video'd myself and saw that my body position through contact was basically vertical and compared to some pro positions I realized this is keeping me from achieving maximum power. But I didn't know how to fix it. Your video popped into my suggestions at just the right time! Now just need to get back to the range to work on it.
Very interesting focus on impact, and slightly before and after... I like the fact that it is a clear objective, whether you are single plane or two planes
Just more great tips that can actually change peoples game. I do think this clip only applies to a very small number of people. If you don't understand the release, and able to do it, then your a dead duck on these moves. I also see body types, balance and flexibility as a real impediment to most golfers today, preventing them from actually reproducing these moves. Anyhow I love the lesson and thanks for the work. The clip you gave surrounding the release has brought me back to a good player once again it was so good, and just the item I needed to work more on. Once you hit a few poor shots in this game,you change the release until you compensate and hit it okay, but the changed release is only a band-aid that never holds up for any length of time. Now I'm back on track.
Great comment D Law
The hip turn seems to be the key when I practice this in slow motion at the impact position the right hand is squared and pointing to target as well as my right knee club face is square great tip JT
Great video Jonathan. I've watched so many videos, and how you teach really speaks to me.
I think I realized the secret just by clicking this video. Impact position we hit the ball side-strattle almost.
Thanks for another great instructional lesson... always well done!
I think you have given a master class on why most all tour players are getting injured on a regular basis compared with their predecessors of decades ago.
The illustration of the spine shape with the alignment stick should be obvious to everyone that the body is not designed to do that. Also severe downward head movement with the lower body jumping up can only lead to spine compression. I read a statistic that PGA tour players are out injured more often that American Football players. Also that many realise they will have long term health issues and be out of the game in their mid thirties but have a healthy bank account. Strange choice. I think your next video should have a disclaimer 😀🏌️♂️
Disclaimer is coming👍
They were injured back in the day as well! Reverse C remember Nicklaus Millar Weiskopt Seve etc! hitting thousands of balls causes problems no matter which way you swing it!
james fitzgerald . That’s true. Many have had long term injuries and needed hip replacements. However I don’t remember the top players of yesterday being out of action on such a regular basis. Today’s players seem to out more often and their injuries start at an earlier age.
Thank you for the tips on attaining this position. I have been working on it for two months and not sure I can perfect it, but your tips will give me
more thoughts to try.
Awesome, can’t wait to watch the upcoming videos on this..
The body is a multiple universal joint system. The key is to understand the line of compression and to engineer the machine from that point. On plane motion is efficient. Pivot : angular motion. Hips lead club head lags and resists. You want to generate and sustain the lag pressure. At release the club seeks its inline condition with the lead arm. Any bend in the lead wrist destroys the angular motion. The club actually slows down.
I love that, of all the pros in the photos, the only one who looks like he's just taking an easy swing is Ernie Els (10:21).
I would say molinari also looks quite at ease.
The "BIG EASY"
superb analysis thanks Jonathan!!
Great lesson, something to work on that has visual results and feeling .
one of the best videos spot on
Another great lesson... Thanks!
Je vais tout déchirer après ce coronavicious, i can feel it !
Really wish there was a range open to practice this..
You don't need a range. It's best to learn these type moves with chip and pitch shots; it's all the same motion/swing. You should be in the same impact position regardless length of swing. Short shots give you the same feedback as long shots; left or right, trajectory, spin one side or another, can all be observed. Back yard, open field somewhere, even a net in the garage, are all you need.
By the end of quarantine I'm going to have a full pro swing...until I hit a ball
You can find a piece of grass. Hit wiffel balls
@@whetedge eh, still gotta practice those full swings man.
@@SGspecial84
In the context of learning new moves, I can assure you the learning curve will be drastically shortened by focusing on the short game. Learn/master the new move with the short game, and the long game application will fall easily in place. This down time is an opportunity for everyone to focus on the short game, which everyone should do more of anyway. Learn to _swing_ with short, controlled shots, and you'll hit better and longer long shots, guaranteed.
what about a healthy spine ?
Launching a rocket (the hands) from an airplane (the hips) through impact!
Action is the cause and position is the result!
The pros are so good because it's what they do for a living along with hours & hours of practice for years.
Let me try it over the Covid period at home. I get the feel that it cd give more time & room for the throw or whip starting a foot or so before impact !! My amateur thought only.
Although Im large and old I can get close to this position because I was born with hyper-mobile joints! yes ive had to do heavy strength conditioning twice a week as injury prevention but dont have to stretch other than do golf drills Unfortunately i suspect that most of the top pros have hyper-mobile joints which is a big reason why they are top pros!
@Just Hustle Lucky you Well that knocks my theory on the head then! But youre probably not 60yrs old!
150lbs and 62yrs old.
Feel it when I try it. But my old blade 3 iron can only hit 170 yds mostly.
I might just need reincarnation for further distance : - (
Jonathan, This is really interesting advice. I have a lot of trouble with hitting fat shots, flipping of the wrist and an early collapse of the left elbow leading to erratic shots. I just tried your tip here in the backyard and noticed I stopped taking divots behind the ball. Not only that, I was able to stop the left elbow collapsing at impact (I am right handed).Can’t wait to get back on the course once we get through this pandemic. I hope all my fellow golfers and families out there stay well.....
Have just watched this again Jonathan and taken extensive notes- present circumstances easily allow for this! Quite masterful and exceptionally clear teaching and cant wait to start trying to get completely different sequences and positions!
Two questions if I may. Firstly do you have any videos dealing with how to increase speed of swing? (Once we get improved stability and freedom to swing faster) and secondly Is it then a case of swing as fast as we can because there is much greater control of that speed through impact and beyond? Regards Ian
Hi Ian, my PDF covers this in more detail but your body has physical boundaries in its mobility and speed. The faster you make the your swing, the further you will hit it but if that is at the cost of control it is not worth it. This is where you have to get serious about building up muscle power and speed and there are different exercises for different results. In my experience it is not worth the time for hobby golfers( 6-8 weeks and over 1800 reps), who are better off investing their time in coordinating and improving the swing that they have.
Jonathan Taylor That all makes sense! Thanks very much for taking me to reply. BTW I found your video on how to increase speed. Very good but i suspect old sports injuries may prove to inhibiting!
👍🏻 excellent advice 🏌🏻♂️
Why have I been instructed to have the face shut in the follow through and you are saying it should still be square to the target at shoulder height?
It is dependent on how much shoulder rotation you have at impact, the further you are rotated the longer it will take the club to overtake your hands.
E-Z-Peezie! So simple. Not complicated at all.
Great video, literally a game changer.
I’m not gonna bother trying to find a like-minded instructor in my neck of the woods. When I #MoneyUp, I’m gonna take lessons from this One-of-a-Kind!!!!!! Love his breakdowns on the golf swing.
You shouldn't. Listening to his advice in this video will lead to herniated discs and sciatica. He doesn't know what he's doing.
This guy is good. He's not endorsing this type of swing for everybody...as he says, he's responding to multiple requests.
It's something I will look at...because I've never heard it explained as well as that.
I think you're being disengenous.
@@JamesLarson47 you sound like you need to do some stretching exercises. We all should.
If you have knowledge of a better explanation of this - please don't say George Gankas...I like him but it's not as good a basic explanation. So I'm open to other sources that you may know.
@@Ali_g72 No, George Gankas isn't great either. The spine is great at bending and it's great at rotating, but it's not great at doing both at the same time. When under rotation, the spine needs to be aligned properly or you will pinch the discs between the vertebrae with the excess curvature and then grind on them with the rotation. This will lead to damage over time, no matter who you are. You can get away with it when you're younger, but it will catch up with you, just like pushing off of the trail side leg in the transition. It has nothing to do with stretching. The advice in this video will get you nothing but future injury. If you actually want to learn how the golf swing works, go to www.rotaryswing.com . Otherwise you're doomed to chase tips that are nothing but band-aids or injuries waiting to happen.
@@JamesLarson47
Thanks. I will check them out.
Now to the advice given...it was an excellent explanation in my opinion. Of a swing many people will want to try, when they shouldn't. I've been playing for 42 years so I can't do it...BECAUSE he showed me I don't have the required flexibility in my spine and hips. I'm close but not there...yet.
When I am I will try this. I'm a 1hcper with a "gay fade" I'm told.
So, I respect your opinion. And agree it will hurt many. I like him and will recommend his channel to my customers (I've fit clubs for 25 years) - which is a now club of 3. :)
Stay safe and work on your fitness and flexibility! :)
oh my aching back!
Watch Lee Trevino videos. Jonathan, you got it right!
With the Driver it seems a lot harder to get that bent spine at impact where the right ear is kind of facing the ground ?
Yes, it will be because you stand more upright to a driver your Pelvic has more to do to get into anterior tilt.
Great!
Thanks
Agree but how to do this drill?
Big thanks to Justin Donson. Let me see your hips schwing
Party on Wayne. Or Paulina, in this case.
I can get it his position (not necessarily hit a ball yet lol) but can you link the videos for getting flexibility especially for any workouts to protect the middle back where I feel it the most
Yoga
The bend their irons flatter than off the rack sets.
unless you are someone like Fred Couples that has an upright swing
In my case, a schwing, and a mish!
Justin Dohnson couldn't have said it better
5:42 shwing 😂🤣😂
Hard move for seniors
It's worth checking out Lee Trevino footage doing this.
I will fly you to Georgia for a lesson
I live in Michigan, USA. I've been watching all your videos and I was hoping you could send me a message on how someone would take lessons from you. Is there an email address I can send you a PM?
Hi Brian, in my experience just watching a video of a swing is not enough for a good analysis of a player, I need to see them live. I have a few ideas about how I might be able to do this in the future but at the moment I don’t offer an online service. Keep watching and I will let the community know when anything changes.
@@JonathanTaylor63 What if I flew to Germany? I'm dead serious. I like your instruction. I am a 3 handicap that is trying to find his way to scratch and I feel like I am missing just a few things.
REAL DEAL! These are the secrets. Problem? Hurts the average players back even more than a pro's.
Not in my experience. I have found that I have no lumber spine pain since concentrating on this position.
@@JonathanTaylor63 You're an humble man and certainly not an average golfer. The pinch is at the bottom of the right rib cage against the top of the right hip bone or at the lower lumbar on the right. I started to get tennis elbow right away doing this also, just like the tour pro I know over here that has hit a few million balls with that basic move. The move does work and narrows your spray pattern, but not everyone is built for it. At 57, I changed to an old-school Mike Austin-style move. Now hitting all high draws and but it's a fun shot. Less body stress with no back pain. I'm barely a 10hdcp so please take with a grain of salt.
Here's a crazy idea, because they're pros... why did Mike Tyson punch harder than all of us.... it wasn't ball position.
james harris
That’s funny, great point too
Look away! 99% wrong. Jonathan Taylor is putting the cart before the horse at best.
I agree with some of the teaching The shoulder moving under is fine But. The shaft of the golf club is on the heel. Not the center. In my opinion most players would benefit from letting the toe pass thru the heal Release the club head. Let it. keep you in balance.
Surely this guy is not suggesting that weekend golfers like me imitate tour professionals' swing, is he? This may be good entertainment, but for us weekend golfers, it is not of much use. It is like explaining calculus to grocery shoppers who are trying to add the purschases to see if he has enough cash in his pocket.
Less talk
More golf pros
This basically is why most tour players hit a Power fade.
and have back issues
Good video, not practical for 65 yr olds
Justin Johnson has his own swing. His body is his own and impossible for everyone to mimic his swing. Lee Trevino regarded as one if the purest strikers of the ball from many of the best player's and swings nothing like this. Ben Crenshaw the same and has his own swing. Find your swing with your body size that feels the most comfortable.
The idea here is to introduce the concept of the power position to those that don't understand it. Let's face it, most great ball strikers these days have a lot in common with their impact positions. If the average golfer that is interested in improving can glean something from this then they have a chance to improve their own ball-striking.
Waffle
Talks too much instead of showing the technique.
Get to the point, man! You lose half of us with your long winded bs.
This is nothing new. Same old analysis, that confuses everyone. The secret is that no professional golfer thinks about getting to this position, then set up with the purpose of hitting the ball in a desired direction with smooth powerful swing. Simple as that. Millions of minute things happen in between but no sane person would spend time and effort sabotaging brain with all the details, which end up in mental paralysis.
Cuz tour professionals hit at least 500 Balls a day. And religiously work on their swings..And yes ..Justin Dohnson has a great Ssshwing
Your theme music made me think you were going to have to golf to save your district
i thought it was that music where he had to save John Connor :) Either way, there's an apocalypse coming!
One of best secrets revealed!
Trevino
You are one of the best instructors. Thank you for talking about the more important parts of the swing and more importantly the detailed breakdowns. Priceless information
They also start at a very young age and their entire life is focused on getting great at golf
That is spot on!👍
Shut up u idiot
Vasu Balakrishnan thank you
This is what I’ve been trying to work out for a year. Nobody talks about the position when the club is 4-6” past the ball position. It doesn’t matter if you hit the exact back of the ball if 4”s later you are off line, that’s a hook or slice or push. If you hit the exact back of the ball and 4” later the face is still pointing at the target, that’s where the ball goes.....with every club in the bag! Nicely explained and as a 54 yr old, I’ll just do my best to bend that much. 😂
A masterpiece of why and how we need to get into the 'position'. Great job Jonathan.
This video is the most valuable source of information I have ever heard as a 78 year old golfer. I struggled with too much flipping of the wrists at impact and no teaching pro over 50 years ever once mentioned this concept during my lessons. Consequently, I could never have consistent ball striking and consistent scores.
My back hurts looking at it.
Position displayed - 3:44 - has to have harmful effect on your back. The back rotating and bowing will cause injury..
Gold dust
#helpful
I feel like this is how John Malkovich would be as an instructor.
Best instruction i ever hearded in 20 years !
wonderful Communication John. Nobody said this better.
Love how you broke it down.. I big on reverse engineering. Pro have this finish look after they hit the ball which I try to replicate. I start there and work myself to the back swing..
Check out photos of Lee Trevino in his prime. His shoulders are nearly vertical thru impact!
Wonderfully explained!! Love this!
A really good thing to do, in order to feel this... Take an extremely strong grip, and make yourself start the ball right, or hit a low fade. You'll be forced to rotate more, and to add a lot more side bend than what you're used to. You'll also have no choice but to have your hands ahead at impact. You'll need to feel like you're karate chopping the ball, with your left hand. If you roll, or release too early, your ball is going LEFT. This will take more flexibility than what most of us have, but it will give you an idea of what someone like D.J. is feeling. Another note... People with a "weaker" grip need to bow the left wrist at impact, to have their hands ahead of the ball. This also twists the club face closed, so you don't need a "roll" of the forearms to hit it square. It amazes me that D.J. does BOTH(strong grip, bowed left wrist). This takes an amazing amount of flexibility, and ability to "rotate". Experiment with these things. You'll be surprised how well your body will adjust, just by the position of the hands.
Jonathan just summarized the essence of two years worth of lessons into one short video. Very well done.
Light bulb moment - many thanks
Excellent. ..thanks alot !
I wish I saw this video 20 years ago, as a “better player” I was always told I was getting stuck at impact and then flip it. Absolutely brilliantly video!
good job. well done.
Amazing!!
Tour players get anywhere from 20* to over 60* open with their hips. It is a huge range.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
7:40-10:03 is absolutely critical. Preserving the club face angle as long as you can at and through impact. Actually very similar to kicking a football ✅
Honestly that part is crucial, but the critical cap on this is really at 10:50, if you try and simply apply his advice but with all the same wrist angles your going to smash into the ground.
Very good clinic, thanks.
This video is exactly what I needed. I've been looking to unlock more power into my golf swing. Videos have shown me that Im too "handsy" and I'm not using my body to properly release the golf club. But... I will definitely emulate these tips. Thanx 👍🏾
An eyeopener för me !Tanks Jonathan !
That's the move alright. Get that right and your way to enjoying your golf. Great video, Thanks..
It’s no secret about the hip turn and the ideal strike position and follow through but all the same Jonathon this is very well described and a really good video 👍
4 birdies in one round just by watching this video. 👌
Interesting concept. I'll be practicing this move in my living room for the next few months. Thanks for the insight.
...that is really big news, John. Your cats must be seriously impressed.
Great instructional video. I'm in my 60's, but am having success. I find this helps eliminate the left side of the course as well as making it impossible to snap hook. Thank you so much.
I started doing this only 4 weeks ago and cant believe the launch and distance achieved..Absolutely fab. Now I just have to understand the direction, thats a bit hit and miss at the moment and also I hit quite a few fat shots with irons...but the driver has so much carry. Wow!