I do love how the Rise of Skywalker has now made Patrick Williams regret ever saying “This is a movie about space wizards intended for children”... so much to the point he has the gall to publicly claim he didn’t say that.
He said x white critics tend to say the SAME opinion hence why he doesn't care about them. And having done serious research on this he is right - critics tend to converge on x spot and most critics do tend to be x The fallacy is in ASSUMING that ALL critics are equally bad. But the premise is not invalid - in fact Mauler and Wolf prove it by having radically bad opinions.
@@spinosaurusstriker Males LOL Wow I didn't know Callum and you were on a first name basis. As for whether "Males" was spot on he was VERY wrong about certain things.
It took me all these years to finally understand that all these bad "video" essays are just like the meandering essays you wrote in school trying to get to that word count about a subject you didn't actually care about, repeating yourself and probably contradicting your points. So basically EFAP is the teacher in this case grading Patrick the student Willams.
Patrick's ramblings legit reminded me of a 5 year old student's work on how hot cross buns relate to the easter story. According to this student, Jesus was put on the cross for 3 days, then taken down, cut in half, and wrapped in hot cross buns. The kid was just throwing words together so he could go out and play.
Yeah, I feel the prequels are seriously underrated, but they still have their problems and they are by no means the height of cinema. But they had more effort put into them than the sequels, and they were definitely better planned than them too. It’s for that reason that I still view them as an integral part of Star Wars, and I have fun watching them and the OT...can’t say I feel the same when watching the sequels
If there's one things the prequels did very well, it's world building. Showing us the different factions and how they operate. Expanding on characters that show OT characters like yoda and creamy sheeve in a different light where their roles are pretty much reversed. It also created an era of history for a lot of interesting situations in the clone wars. There's also a few hidden things that enrich the prequels, like the 3 secondary antagonists (maul, dooku and grievous) representing aspects of Anakin, the warrior, the fallen jedi and the cyborg. To note, anakin follows these in each film with these characters. Anakin first shows of his warrior spirit when he destroys a trade federation ship, he begins to fall to the dark gay when his mother dies and then he becomes a cyborg in the final film. Also, Obi wan takes on all 3 and defeats 2 of them implying that all 3 were training for him to take on anakin
TPM shows why Anakin is so important, his strong attachment to his mom, why Obi-Wan wasn't right teacher to him, why he hates Tatooine, Jedi rules, Palpatine becoming chancellor, world building, etc...And of course, podracing and Darth Maul. AOTC actually tells a story (Palpatine's rise to power by manipulation Republic and Separatists, Anakin's progression of falling to the Dark Side, start of the Clone Wars), develops characters, shows us real war, new planets, species, ships, droids, world, and has connection with 1 and 3. What ROTS show us? The largest battle in the Clone Wars, deaths of Dooku and Grievous, Kashyyk battle, Anakin's conflict with Jedi and himself, his weakness (save who he loves), which perfectly works with saving Luke, Palpatine's manipulation and rise to power, Order 66, 2 amasing final battles and the creation of Darth Vader and Empire, birth of Luke and Leia, new hope. It is meaning for the whole Galaxy and is the most emotional. TFA is a copypaste of ANH without any logic, good characters, with stupid jokes, infinite coincidences, which retconned whole OT: Empire hasn't fallen, Han and Leia are not together, Luke left everyone like a coward, etc... TLJ is not a movie, it's middle-finger to all star wars fans. Stupid jokes in each serious moment, ruining old characters, copy of OT, not answering any questions, breaking the lore, pointless sequences. TROS: Somehow Palpatine has returned, lol. AOTC is 100 times better than any of this hot mess.
I wish the dialogue and some parts of the plot were more refined it's one of my gripes especially the midochlorian thing I think they should've just went with something simple because the movie onwards doesn't even go that deep into it neither I believe did the Clone wars show. There are plot holes like the assassination attempts on Padme but other than that yeah it was going for something I liked it but yes there are serious problems
@@yamatonoryuujin4871 Agreed, 100 percent. Though there was stuff in legends that I really liked regarding midichlorians (The Darth Plagueis novel ) the short explanation that they gave in Phantom Menace didn't really do a good job clarifying what they are. Casual watchers would just immediately assume that bacteria are the force. Instead of a blood sample to test how potentially powerful Anakin was, it would have been better to have a more mystical/arthurian kind of test for Force Sensitivity in my opinion. And yeah, I had a ton of problems regarding Padme in the prequels, and not just because of how it seemed like Natalie Portman just phoned it in for Episode 3. She's just all over the place as a character.
@@yamatonoryuujin4871 eeeh hardly i think the "reasonable" point of view on these films is not reasonable in the slightest maybe its a generational thing but ive always known these movies are masterpieces......anyone talking about them like their not that or even Great is pretty alien to me.....its about standards of quality and i think very few people are actually consistent on that whatsoever by all accounts the prequels are fantastic films but because they do not achieve some specific criteria the original fans wanted....they have to be bad.........they just have to be bad.............there is almost no real conversation on the prequels its just people projecting their personal preferences onto being true critizism. if you take away all the emotional appeals all the gerry mandering all the dated early 2000s Humour........then the vast majority of all of the people who reviewed them.........are frankly just talking out of their asses...they were the first ones and the films werent really made for them......so they hate it.........with a passion.........and anyone who DOES like it is just a dumbass or something lol.........we somewhat younger guys either stayed true to ourselves or fell for their bullshit......and then tried to convince ourselves that we did not......Like so many people actually just "believed" RLM for their horrendous word when they made their terrible videos....that most off them tried to "prove" that they actually genuinely hated the movies on their own........and they had nothing to do with it........the prequels is just a case of the smartass vs the smartmen...........there are way more smartasses but over time the really smart people will correct their bullshit and fix it all....as is with all things..........eventually
Love this highlight, cuz when I tell people, how there are people out there unironically defending this shit cuz of Tiddy Walrus monster - they say I'm poisoning the well and there is no way and I'm inventing a strawman... I show them that and 3 separate people told me that this is a troll cuz there is no way. Cuz noone believes someone traded logic and charachter consistency for extreme alien nudity.
thank you so much Sun for putting this together and making my day and thank you too Patrick for your "taste". all hail hate mongers of the toxic brood!
“This is a movie intended for children,” does not excuse horrible writing and a lack of proper efforts. A toy, is made for children. It still must be a good toy, which provides entertainment and joy, and is safe, in order to be good. When films such as UP, Kung Fu Panda. Finding Nemo, Lion King, Prince of Egypt, etc. all exist as animated films created by studios that traditionally create films for children and/or younger audiences, you have no excuse to not do so EVEN IF you claim that your film is for children. TLJ, and Star Wars as a whole, is arguably not tied to any single age group. It has no excuse to be as horrible as it is.
I genuinely liked Alien Covenant. Sure it's a flawed film but there's a lot *to* like in the movie. Great music composition, breathtaking visuals, some really good dialogue (when it isn't hokey anyways) and some great scares to good effects. Plotwise it's kinda all over the place and it does kinda hemorrhage Canon (as Ridley seems to do these days) but it's still an enjoyable popcorn flick.
I do love how the Rise of Skywalker has now made Patrick Williams regret ever saying “This is a movie about space wizards intended for children”... so much to the point he has the gall to publicly claim he didn’t say that.
Wait, did he seriously said that? Lol
Kenneth Cha Kenneth Cha he claimed that we were all misinterpreting what he meant yet still tweeted “Fuck you” to JJ Abrams.
the best part is that his merchandise store is still selling shirts with that quote printed on them
@awhellnah__but you are watching movies wrong!
we all came here for 33:07...
Hell yea my guy.
Of all the amazing EFAP moments this is one of my favorites. I still remember losing my shit with them
I wish I could be into anything as much as this dude is into alien monster fish tits
@@GoHawk70 one of the most real lmao moments ever....
It just kept getting worse 🤣🤣🤣
The way everyone fell to pieces when Patrick said the giant elephant-titty monster was his favourite addition. 🤣🤣🤣
This makes me miss wolf more.
Hope he's doing well
He is!
Writing and Rage
Slice and dice brother!
Luis-Raul Diaz-Rios oh no, the newest update is here man.
"I want to see a lot of different perspectives. But I'll dismiss white peoples perspectives on the movie"
He said x white critics tend to say the SAME opinion hence why he doesn't care about them. And having done serious research on this he is right - critics tend to converge on x spot and most critics do tend to be x
The fallacy is in ASSUMING that ALL critics are equally bad. But the premise is not invalid - in fact Mauler and Wolf prove it by having radically bad opinions.
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 i don't see how, males was spot on of the new star wars trilogy
@@spinosaurusstriker Males LOL Wow I didn't know Callum and you were on a first name basis. As for whether "Males" was spot on he was VERY wrong about certain things.
Chan Thorpe ok Racist.
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 he used males i remember and in ehat way he was wrong?
Patrick: "Space-wizard movie intended for children"
*5 minutes later* "fReAkInG oUt AnD mUrDeRiNg A bUnCh Of KiDs"
Hmm, yes, this seems to coincide.
It took me all these years to finally understand that all these bad "video" essays are just like the meandering essays you wrote in school trying to get to that word count about a subject you didn't actually care about, repeating yourself and probably contradicting your points. So basically EFAP is the teacher in this case grading Patrick the student Willams.
I think waxing poetic best describes it.
Patrick's ramblings legit reminded me of a 5 year old student's work on how hot cross buns relate to the easter story. According to this student, Jesus was put on the cross for 3 days, then taken down, cut in half, and wrapped in hot cross buns.
The kid was just throwing words together so he could go out and play.
@@CarrionCrow993 To be fair that sounds like a candy-land themed Dante's Inferno, it's a cool premise!
Yeah, I feel the prequels are seriously underrated, but they still have their problems and they are by no means the height of cinema. But they had more effort put into them than the sequels, and they were definitely better planned than them too. It’s for that reason that I still view them as an integral part of Star Wars, and I have fun watching them and the OT...can’t say I feel the same when watching the sequels
If there's one things the prequels did very well, it's world building. Showing us the different factions and how they operate. Expanding on characters that show OT characters like yoda and creamy sheeve in a different light where their roles are pretty much reversed. It also created an era of history for a lot of interesting situations in the clone wars.
There's also a few hidden things that enrich the prequels, like the 3 secondary antagonists (maul, dooku and grievous) representing aspects of Anakin, the warrior, the fallen jedi and the cyborg. To note, anakin follows these in each film with these characters. Anakin first shows of his warrior spirit when he destroys a trade federation ship, he begins to fall to the dark gay when his mother dies and then he becomes a cyborg in the final film. Also, Obi wan takes on all 3 and defeats 2 of them implying that all 3 were training for him to take on anakin
TPM shows why Anakin is so important, his strong attachment to his mom, why Obi-Wan wasn't right teacher to him, why he hates Tatooine, Jedi rules, Palpatine becoming chancellor, world building, etc...And of course, podracing and Darth Maul.
AOTC actually tells a story (Palpatine's rise to power by manipulation Republic and Separatists, Anakin's progression of falling to the Dark Side, start of the Clone Wars), develops characters, shows us real war, new planets, species, ships, droids, world, and has connection with 1 and 3.
What ROTS show us? The largest battle in the Clone Wars, deaths of Dooku and Grievous, Kashyyk battle, Anakin's conflict with Jedi and himself, his weakness (save who he loves), which perfectly works with saving Luke, Palpatine's manipulation and rise to power, Order 66, 2 amasing final battles and the creation of Darth Vader and Empire, birth of Luke and Leia, new hope. It is meaning for the whole Galaxy and is the most emotional.
TFA is a copypaste of ANH without any logic, good characters, with stupid jokes, infinite coincidences, which retconned whole OT: Empire hasn't fallen, Han and Leia are not together, Luke left everyone like a coward, etc...
TLJ is not a movie, it's middle-finger to all star wars fans. Stupid jokes in each serious moment, ruining old characters, copy of OT, not answering any questions, breaking the lore, pointless sequences.
TROS: Somehow Palpatine has returned, lol.
AOTC is 100 times better than any of this hot mess.
I wish the dialogue and some parts of the plot were more refined it's one of my gripes especially the midochlorian thing I think they should've just went with something simple because the movie onwards doesn't even go that deep into it neither I believe did the Clone wars show. There are plot holes like the assassination attempts on Padme but other than that yeah it was going for something I liked it but yes there are serious problems
@@yamatonoryuujin4871 Agreed, 100 percent. Though there was stuff in legends that I really liked regarding midichlorians (The Darth Plagueis novel ) the short explanation that they gave in Phantom Menace didn't really do a good job clarifying what they are. Casual watchers would just immediately assume that bacteria are the force. Instead of a blood sample to test how potentially powerful Anakin was, it would have been better to have a more mystical/arthurian kind of test for Force Sensitivity in my opinion.
And yeah, I had a ton of problems regarding Padme in the prequels, and not just because of how it seemed like Natalie Portman just phoned it in for Episode 3. She's just all over the place as a character.
@@yamatonoryuujin4871 eeeh hardly i think the "reasonable" point of view on these films is not reasonable in the slightest maybe its a generational thing but ive always known these movies are masterpieces......anyone talking about them like their not that or even Great is pretty alien to me.....its about standards of quality and i think very few people are actually consistent on that whatsoever by all accounts the prequels are fantastic films but because they do not achieve some specific criteria the original fans wanted....they have to be bad.........they just have to be bad.............there is almost no real conversation on the prequels its just people projecting their personal preferences onto being true critizism. if you take away all the emotional appeals all the gerry mandering all the dated early 2000s Humour........then the vast majority of all of the people who reviewed them.........are frankly just talking out of their asses...they were the first ones and the films werent really made for them......so they hate it.........with a passion.........and anyone who DOES like it is just a dumbass or something lol.........we somewhat younger guys either stayed true to ourselves or fell for their bullshit......and then tried to convince ourselves that we did not......Like so many people actually just "believed" RLM for their horrendous word when they made their terrible videos....that most off them tried to "prove" that they actually genuinely hated the movies on their own........and they had nothing to do with it........the prequels is just a case of the smartass vs the smartmen...........there are way more smartasses but over time the really smart people will correct their bullshit and fix it all....as is with all things..........eventually
“I’ve never heard a smart people say that”-Bigideas circa 387 bce
How can you take jabs at the prequels while liking the new ones?
Ah yes maths, famously known as the only thing to use logic. I'm going to walk out of my second floor window when i leave my house
20:55 Nearly threw up my ice cream, hearing that one
On Patrick Willems' Letterboxd profile, the only film he's given a half-star rating to is Boondock Saints.
Love this highlight, cuz when I tell people, how there are people out there unironically defending this shit cuz of Tiddy Walrus monster - they say I'm poisoning the well and there is no way and I'm inventing a strawman... I show them that and 3 separate people told me that this is a troll cuz there is no way. Cuz noone believes someone traded logic and charachter consistency for extreme alien nudity.
Movie with monkey space wizards intended for fecking children
33:12
Let the madness begin...
thank you so much Sun for putting this together and making my day and thank you too Patrick for your "taste".
all hail hate mongers of the toxic brood!
God i miss Wolf so much.
Rip he has gone now
Ah, Willems. The Avatar Of Soy.
19:14 should have put the GDELB quote there ^^
0:00 No seconds in and this video is already everything I need in my life
I love these highlight streams
Holy shit Wolf sounds noticeably younger.
Oh man this is a gem
The Prequels will always Be Fantastic
They were over hated but they are not well made movies.
Appabend should go back in efap
“This is a movie intended for children,” does not excuse horrible writing and a lack of proper efforts.
A toy, is made for children. It still must be a good toy, which provides entertainment and joy, and is safe, in order to be good.
When films such as UP, Kung Fu Panda. Finding Nemo, Lion King, Prince of Egypt, etc. all exist as animated films created by studios that traditionally create films for children and/or younger audiences, you have no excuse to not do so EVEN IF you claim that your film is for children.
TLJ, and Star Wars as a whole, is arguably not tied to any single age group. It has no excuse to be as horrible as it is.
Spider-Man: Far From Home did what they should've done with Bruce going back to Gotham.
I genuinely liked Alien Covenant. Sure it's a flawed film but there's a lot *to* like in the movie. Great music composition, breathtaking visuals, some really good dialogue (when it isn't hokey anyways) and some great scares to good effects. Plotwise it's kinda all over the place and it does kinda hemorrhage Canon (as Ridley seems to do these days) but it's still an enjoyable popcorn flick.
@Christopher Marlowe NONE of that matters. If x or y artist has "contempt" it tells us NOTHING about the work in question.
@J. Robert González Huh?