One thing I will say about using the single pot master cylinder. Seems like a lot of people who get into these cars that keep it single reservoir, don't inspect or replace their hard lines, don't replace the rubber hoses, don't replace the wheel cylinders, brakes out of adjustment, E brake doesn't work, etc then act surprised and blame the master cylinder for when something goes wrong. Most of these cars have rusty brake lines if they're still original and still susceptible to blow out even if someone puts a dual reservoir master cylinder on all the rest of it should be done as well. I personally have experienced a dual reservoir master cylinder totally fail, all the fluid puked out the back of it, no pressure pumping the brakes, etc. I know of one other master cylinder that failed that way also, on a 2003 yukon XL. The dual reservoir is definitely safer and preferred, but they aren't a 100% guarantee either. One thing I will say, the 4 wheel drum brakes on my 64 galaxie stop just about as well as the 4 wheel disc brakes with dual piston front calipers on my 99 grand marquis which has fantastic brakes, and yes, the galaxie will stop powerfully after hard braking more than once. I've thrown more than a few people forward slamming on the brakes in that car, and everybody was surprised it has 4 wheel drums.
Great video as always mate. I've just put a manual front disc kit (4 piston KH type) from CSRP on the wagon. Pedal feel is a little different, but all in all pretty good. I decided against the vacuum booster as the space between the firewall and the tower wouldn't have fit a booster without a bracket. Like I said, feels a bit different in the pedal but there is plenty of brakes there.
I updated my manual drum brakes on my 1968 Mustang to the power 4 piston Kelsey Hayes disk brakes from CSRP and glad I did. When manual drum you wander if you'll stop in time and a big safety issue
Good brakes are not overrated. Found out the hard way when a master cylinder failed and the pedal went to the floor. Had to check my shorts after that episode.
I'm doing a single to dual circuit brake conversion on a 65 Sport Fury. I was blessed that I could pull the distrubution valve for it off a 68 Satelitte parts car I have.
Thank you for the video as I have a newly purchased 1963 Ford Falcon with drums and a fruit bowl master cylinder. I have a friend that will put disk brakes with 5 lug for about $700. I look forward to more videos!
Thanks Jeff, I did that conversion on of all thing a 64 Signat 200 aka Valiant. I am not I repeat not a Mopar fan I wish I had seen this video befor I did it, now I have to fix a couple of mistakes. Thanks. In response to you question on the floor pan. I really appreciate any info on body work because I can use the techniques that I see you use on my 69 F250. And take care of your knees because you'll miss the when they're gone.
A video on the floor pans demoing the difference between lap weld and butt weld installation, pros and cons would be great. I butt welded in my 66 mustang Pans, with basically zero experience, using butt clamps and I was happy with the results. Wish I’d spent more time cleaning them up and understood Seam sealer better. I don’t know that I got that right.
Dad once failed to realize the star wheel adjuster in one brake drum had frozen up in his 1966 Ranchero. The adjuster fell out from between the shoes, and the fruit bowl MC left him with no brakes at all. He said it was pretty exciting. Honestly, you've just done multiple videos about replacing floor pans. I think I'm good for now. It was all good information, but how much can you add to the subject right now?
It's NOT an "emergency brake". It's a parking brake. You CAN (and should) use it in an emergency, but it will take a lot of time to stop the car. The 1976-1977 Maverick came standard with NON-power front disc brakes. The power brakes were optional.
Good to know on both of those things. You have to remember I'm using my brain which isn't as wonderful as it used to be. As to the Mavericks I thought that after 1974 they were all power.
I'm redoing a 1962 Comet S22, with a 200 cid. The tires are the 13s and shoe brakes. How can I be sure the correct proportional valve and duel bowl master cylinder.
Great subject, I changed my 66 Ford f1 to power booster with disc front brakes, very happy. Larger diameter master cylinder bore makes the foot pressure harder; smaller diameter bore makes easier foot pressure. Yes want to see your boy work on his car.
I bought a disc brake package for my 67 Mustang and it came with the black dial type proportioning valve. Would it be better to use this or buy the brass one you showed in the video?
@@AutoRestoMod ah thanks. Been thinking of getting rid of the single reservoir master, but want to keep the manual set up and drum brakes. Any ideas? Thanks
When we bought my wife’s 1965 Mustang, we immediately installed a dual reservoir master cylinder brakes. We are glad you made this video.
Dual systems is the way to go...good information as always 😊😊😊
I changed my manual drum brakes on my 68 Fairlane to Granada manual discs with a Maverick master cylinder. Works awesome with my 289 powered car.
That's what I have too.
One thing I will say about using the single pot master cylinder. Seems like a lot of people who get into these cars that keep it single reservoir, don't inspect or replace their hard lines, don't replace the rubber hoses, don't replace the wheel cylinders, brakes out of adjustment, E brake doesn't work, etc then act surprised and blame the master cylinder for when something goes wrong. Most of these cars have rusty brake lines if they're still original and still susceptible to blow out even if someone puts a dual reservoir master cylinder on all the rest of it should be done as well. I personally have experienced a dual reservoir master cylinder totally fail, all the fluid puked out the back of it, no pressure pumping the brakes, etc. I know of one other master cylinder that failed that way also, on a 2003 yukon XL. The dual reservoir is definitely safer and preferred, but they aren't a 100% guarantee either.
One thing I will say, the 4 wheel drum brakes on my 64 galaxie stop just about as well as the 4 wheel disc brakes with dual piston front calipers on my 99 grand marquis which has fantastic brakes, and yes, the galaxie will stop powerfully after hard braking more than once. I've thrown more than a few people forward slamming on the brakes in that car, and everybody was surprised it has 4 wheel drums.
Great info as always Jeff, thanks for everything!! People want to see every step of the restoration, so if it needs passenger floor pans, let’s do it.
Great video as always mate. I've just put a manual front disc kit (4 piston KH type) from CSRP on the wagon. Pedal feel is a little different, but all in all pretty good. I decided against the vacuum booster as the space between the firewall and the tower wouldn't have fit a booster without a bracket. Like I said, feels a bit different in the pedal but there is plenty of brakes there.
I updated my manual drum brakes on my 1968 Mustang to the power 4 piston Kelsey Hayes disk brakes from CSRP and glad I did. When manual drum you wander if you'll stop in time and a big safety issue
Good brakes are not overrated. Found out the hard way when a master cylinder failed and the pedal went to the floor. Had to check my shorts after that episode.
That's called...skid marks in the wrong place.
I'm doing a single to dual circuit brake conversion on a 65 Sport Fury. I was blessed that I could pull the distrubution valve for it off a 68 Satelitte parts car I have.
I'll be watching closely because I will be converting over to disc brakes on our 65 Mustang
Floor pan installation has been covered in extensive detail in previous videos. I'm kind of floor panned out, honestly.
Thank you for the video as I have a newly purchased 1963 Ford Falcon with drums and a fruit bowl master cylinder. I have a friend that will put disk brakes with 5 lug for about $700. I look forward to more videos!
God bless you Jeffro.
I'll take a blessing anytime somebody wants to put it on me.😁
Thanks Jeff, I did that conversion on of all thing a 64 Signat 200 aka Valiant. I am not I repeat not a Mopar fan I wish I had seen this video befor I did it, now I have to fix a couple of mistakes. Thanks. In response to you question on the floor pan. I really appreciate any info on body work because I can use the techniques that I see you use on my 69 F250. And take care of your knees because you'll miss the when they're gone.
Love these videos. My project is a 1966 f100 2wd. Drum all around and single master cylinder. Hoping to upgrade soon👍
Got to lose that fruit bowl.
@@AutoRestoMod Yes sir! Coming up soon along with other parts 👍
A video on the floor pans demoing the difference between lap weld and butt weld installation, pros and cons would be great. I butt welded in my 66 mustang Pans, with basically zero experience, using butt clamps and I was happy with the results. Wish I’d spent more time cleaning them up and understood Seam sealer better. I don’t know that I got that right.
Dad once failed to realize the star wheel adjuster in one brake drum had frozen up in his 1966 Ranchero. The adjuster fell out from between the shoes, and the fruit bowl MC left him with no brakes at all. He said it was pretty exciting. Honestly, you've just done multiple videos about replacing floor pans. I think I'm good for now. It was all good information, but how much can you add to the subject right now?
Great video! Very informative!
Hope you will recover "fast back"mustang your knee❤❤❤
Yes, would be nice too see how well the passenger side lines up with the drivers side
I have had the experience of blowing a brake line with a single pot MC. The E-brake didn't work either. I won't drive those again.
I had the experience of a dual reservoir master cylinder totally failing, same result. Drove it home with the E brake.
Thanks I have learned a ton of great things
Have you ever tries using panel bond to install a floor pan repair, that stuff is tough.
Yes that's AWESOME 👌
Great stuff Jeff
It's NOT an "emergency brake". It's a parking brake. You CAN (and should) use it in an emergency, but it will take a lot of time to stop the car.
The 1976-1977 Maverick came standard with NON-power front disc brakes. The power brakes were optional.
Good to know on both of those things. You have to remember I'm using my brain which isn't as wonderful as it used to be. As to the Mavericks I thought that after 1974 they were all power.
@@AutoRestoMod Not a criticism. Just adding my 2 cents worth...
How about suspension upgrades
FYI, I would say NO on another floor pan video
We all abide by the motto: "Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a Chevrolet"!
Lol.
Australia ford factories have never used any other type vs dual system for a reason
also if you get sent a power master cylinder there is no area for the push rod to clip into. You hearing me LEED brakes.
Yes the floor pan
My 67 Mustang has original manual drums. You start braking about 250' at 30 mph and pray.
True enough
I'm redoing a 1962 Comet S22, with a 200 cid.
The tires are the 13s and shoe brakes. How can I be sure the correct proportional valve and duel bowl master cylinder.
If I put the maverick master cylinder on my 65 will I need to change the brake lines also?
Great subject, I changed my 66 Ford f1 to power booster with disc front brakes, very happy. Larger diameter master cylinder bore makes the foot pressure harder; smaller diameter bore makes easier foot pressure. Yes want to see your boy work on his car.
I bought a disc brake package for my 67 Mustang and it came with the black dial type proportioning valve. Would it be better to use this or buy the brass one you showed in the video?
If you have the dial-type valve, you ALSO need the brass one which is a distribution block. The dial valve is for fine-tuning the rear only.
I have a 1969 Ford Fairlane with a 250 4.1 letter straight 6 need vacuum diagram
You need more than that...
Hello yes I'd like to see it
so the 1974 Mavrick non power disc brakes dual master is the ticket for the stock drum brakes?
That is only for disc brakes sorry I was unclear
@@AutoRestoMod ah thanks. Been thinking of getting rid of the single reservoir master, but want to keep the manual set up and drum brakes. Any ideas? Thanks
Work on the f100 again
Passenger side please
we don't need to see both sides done
I wanna see you do a 62/63 comet stock
Stock is boring.
Thannks for your video sir i did a dual mastercylinder on my 65 mercury comet