shut up. timo bernhard ran around the nurburgring nordscheife in 5:19 using a porsche 919 evo. yes he was controling the brakes and gas, but he ran around the nurburgring.
Shocked to find out they are brothers... Jazza has always been such a warm spot for learning to draw to have his own brother act like this... it must be so hurtful.
It sounds like his brother got into art for personal reasons, which is surprising. I thought that he was in it for the soulless, easy money. It’s unfortunate that he fuels his work with jealousy instead of literally any other positive emotion.
omg I'm so sorry for Jazza, he looked so uncomfortable like, he knew that he was right because he knows his stuff, but he can't say that without sounding arrogant. As an Artist who is on a *way* lower level than jazza and someone who's followed him for years, that was just painfull to watch
Right? Even before the clip was shown I thought to myself "Wait isn't he literally the brother of Jazza, an actual professional artist. Wonder what Jazza thinks about this" and then the clip came and it was so uncomfortable to watch
What’s worse is that Jazza is the LITTLE brother. Like, I would never IN MY LIFE speak to my little bro that way. It goes against every law imaginable.
@@ImortalZeus13WTF, Jazza is the little brother? That only puts extra irony since Jazza being the bigger person. Also damn, Jazza is a kind person but he could have had diabetes from sugarcoating this much. Though I respect his finesse, and I aspire to learn it.
@@neurofiedyamato8763 why would you still watch shad after he has shown himself to be not only a total hack, but an actually awfull person (he has more then once been very open on his 2nd channel about some rather disgusting views he has)
5:30 Every time Blender updates I need to learn the differences, make sure my plugins work, and ensure that my keyboard shortcuts transferred over. That is not what makes me a 3D artist.
his whole thing is talking about 'artistry' the same way one talks about being proficient with microsoft office, which is essentially what he is. He is using a piece of software made to be broadly usable at a level above the bare minimum proficiency.
@@DNeonLamp that's interesting, actually No one ever says that knowing how to use Microsoft Office, for example, makes you a good writer. But his whole speech is about how using AI makes him a skilled artist
anyone who knows how lighting works in cinematography will tell you that the brightest highlights should be created by the brightest light source. Besides, there's nothing artistic or "progress" about mashing together a bunch of stolen art into a crude representation of an idea you aren't skilled enough to create yourself. @@BlargvsBlorg
@@BlargvsBlorg it's crazy how quickly you people show your hatred towards actual artists lol. You didn't even bother to dispute anything I said. I'm not attacking science; I'm defending art, which you're attacking. I'm not worried though, if history shows anything it's that we'll never stop creating art.
@DPH-sp9vt most of them are mad that crypto died (no matter how much they insist it hasn't) and are wanting this to be their next get rich method. Because surely this'll be the revolution right? Its not a bubble. Is it any wonder they say "you'll be replaced" the same way people in crypto called everyone poor
I mean, they're right though. Generating + touching up takes a fraction of the time compared to achieving the same thing from scratch. It's insanely fast. But at the same time, it's not the myth of click-n-done. Gonna need neural interfaces for that to happen.
@@tahunuva4254 Or just better models. DALLE3 already has a much better text understanding than the old StableDiffusion1.5, which makes it much easier to put together complex scenes with just a text prompt that would have required a lot of manual in-painting previously. Neural Interfaces might not be all that far of either, there is already a paper titled "High-resolution image reconstruction with latent diffusion models from human brain activity".
@@tahunuva4254 while yes, it's not a click-and-done type of stuff, but it's still a braindead process of typing, generate, generate, typing, generate, slider, generate, touch ups, typing, generate and on and on and on and on while lying to everyone and yourself that you're a "great artist" like Shad did.
The 2 are not mutually exclusive. It is easy to take a photo of a person and capture exceptional detail, previously only possible from master painters. However there is still a level of skill involved in capturing the perfectly framed posed and lit photo, thus why people with iPhones still pay professionals to get a good family portrait
@@DanzIndzyou are describing the difference between a script kiddie and a certified professional coder, which is itself a massive difference in skill level.
His actual art without the AI isn't bad. It has a very mid-2000s webcomic kinda look to it that some people really like and is also where a lot of really great artist started. That is to say, why's he gotta use AI?
If he actually put in effort towards tuning his art style and learning more about anatomy, he'd be a baller fantasy artist. He has the fundamentals there.
AI Bros often have an Objective view on art, that art below a certain arbitrary "quality" level is of no use to the artist, or any of society, and might as well be discarded. As such, they care only about 1 thing: the end result. Does it look "professional"? Is it free of "Mistakes" or "Errors"? Does it look like something that would be in a museum? To them, Art is another Stock or Bond, another thing to be used, traded and sold to maximize profits. They don't care what it says, or how it says it, as long as it looks pretty enough. Dude probably bought into these ideas by way of his own insecurity and thus has gone to obsessing about how "good" the art looks over developing his own personal style.
I miss when "AI Art" was just people asking AI to make weird shit for them, like "Obama eating a metal door while-... pissing gatorade" and then looking hilariously deformed.
I miss when it was pictures that looked like "something" but if you look at any part of the picture it really doesn't look like anything and your brain would just hurt.
@@anon746912 Teaching machines to peep the horror and then just lashing it down until it retches up something that roughly looks like real images and occasionally generating invisible static layers over an image that will increase the amount of people that associate this picture of a car with apples by 30% for nightmare black box reasons
i have some old ai art from midjourney, its like weird cyberpunky oil paintings kinda, full of artifacts and weird stuff that makes no sense, i feel like the imperfections and weirdness are the part that made it interesting
@@BlargvsBlorg „AI Art looks better than most Human art” 1. That is kind of false, once you look at how generic it looks. 2. Please, the only reason for its quality is because it steals and copies from the best human artists. „At the end of the day, no one cares about of how products are made, only the end result.” This type of thinking is evil, and you know it. „Otherwise, people would protest 99% of all their goods comes from China and its sweatshops” How about we actually start protesting then?
@@BlargvsBlorg „Machines are thus superior to human artwork” Speed is not a part of art. Speed is not part of the value of art. This type of thinking is, simply put, anti-human, and anti-artist. „The economy would collapse if you tried” It will collapse anyway when global warming shows it effects in the near future. Also, if an economy is based on evil things, then it ought to be ended. „Since most people already live paycheck to paycheck already” Meanse we are morally obligated to increase minimum wage, and to bring back unions at their full force, to actually improve wages. And also to build cheap(or even free) housing en mass, and to support free healthcare, to allow people to save more.
@@BlargvsBlorg „Anyone who sells art commercially is absolutely affected by speed” Irrelevant. Speed is not important for the artistic value. „Lol, so why are you even concerned by AI if we're all going to die in the end? ” Because I want to make the world better, and to avoid the negative future. „Sounds great except, who's paying for it? ” THe governments of the world, who ought to put massive wealth taxes, land value taxes, and also a tax on automation.
@@BlargvsBlorg „It clearly is since any Artist would get fired for failing to do a job. Or do you seriously think people have time to sit around and wait for someone to deliver an unfinished sketch forever? ” Stop thinking like a capitalist please. „Did you miss all the scientists back in 2010 who said the climate is past the point of return? ” Of course not. But we can limit how bad it will be. „Because governments never run out of money that you're telling them to go borrow forever right? Go look at Venezuela or Cuba when you try and make everything "free". It just creates more poor people. ” Dude. Using those as examples? And not the more functional examples of the various EU social programs?
@@justinwhite2725 The funny part is that he still doesn't hold a candle to his brother. In fact, he's burnt that candle at the wrong end and made it useless.
@@andrevaughn6980 right? Both my sister and I are artists, but she is way better than I am. And she's 11 years younger lol. How can someone look at a younger sibling who is obviously talented and not be proud AF?
I mess with settings to find my perfect temprature with air conditioner, but I'm not desperate enough to call myself an engineer, or an air conditioning skill expert. It's like putting your elementary school on your resume.
The funniest part is his own original drawings have more personality to them than the AI trash. Maybe not the most refined style, but clearly something that could be very distinct and interesting if he were willing to put real work into it.
This one really got to me... to me, this sounds like... he can remember which ai-generated images were the ones he prompted, so they seem different to him in his own mind
It's that jealousy he has toward his brother. He wants to be better than Jazza but doesn't want to do the work to actually achieve the skill to do so. He's a typical narcissistic person with a fragile ego who sees other's success/skills as a threat.
@@Vercanya Which is weird since he's already a novelist. They both have their respective talents. He's the writer and Jazza is the artist. They could team up and publish a graphic novel if they want.
@@ferrariofantioch2865 I wouldn't call him a novelist when his book is a power fantasy dumpsterfire, he only published one and that was before the AIpocaypse. I already see him using ChatShitPT to make the next book for him, and then the next one and the next one.
less, even, it's literally everything with everyone. he's just generally insecure because he knows most people have at least one area they excel in and he doesn't
Its amusing how some people are incapable of accepting that there are different opinions. It shows their weakness in that area, when they immediately resort to insults or "psychological" explanations for their opinion. Dont make it so easy on yourself, my friend.
@@billcarson818 sure except OP's claim and accepting different opinions aren't mutually exclusive still. Especially if Shad's metric in viewers compared to his brother had faced a dip in numbers on both here and other sites like Patreon.
I was a big fan of shad for a while, like more than 5 years, but "Training an AI to put my wife's face on fetishistic AI art so its not that sinful" isn't in the list of moves I thought he'd go with. It was so weird to see him prompt/coherce jazza into telling him he has the skills of a pro artist, and I just don't know what to think of it all.
I was too, for a long ass time too. Some comments about "woke stuff" put me off sometimes, but I moved past it. After seeing him do a collab with a borderline alt right history youtuber about egyptian history (far from his area of research btw), I dipped. Seeing this, I am very thankful I did.
Oh btw, I was researching for a little bit about Shad and I just saw that the youtuber Shad collabed I was talking about was fucking SARGON OF AKKAD, a dude who was banned from YT by his ultra right wing """hot takes""".
You're not alone there. Used to love his videos. He'd make the occasional social statement that I didn't really align with but I ignored it because I wanted to be reasonable and not condemn a creator I otherwise liked just because we had differing political views. But the more he talked the more close-minded he started sounding, and now he's shilling unethical tools that are harmful to real artists all while putting himself on a pedestal and lashing out at anyone who disagrees. Also he wouldn't stop complaining about his "dying channel" and it got annoying
@@Evocatari You can't purposefully limit the amount of people who can enjoy your channel by pushing forth divisive topics like politics and AI use, then complain about your subscriber base getting lowered. It's like putting a filter on your channel to only allow a certain type of person to enjoy your content. The more polarizing you are, the less people who were there before that polarization will remain. If he can't see that, it's his problem, not everyone else's. It's time he realizes that.
The most uncomfortable thing about it is watching Shad play-up his elite artistic eye and deep artistic expression. I've seriously never heard any art hobbyist, professional, nor teacher/professor say anything like that.
That's the craziest part to me. I have never heard someone brag so openly about their supposed skill level. The fact that he seems to overestimate his own skill significantly doesn't help
My biggest problem is that if everything he does is intentional and thought out, why does it take so many repeated instances to get what he wants? If the process is as technical as Shad is portraying it to be, why does the vast majority of “art” he creates get completely scrapped?
Her arms also bend in weird places and i’m pretty sure her right knee is bigger than her left one. Her nose also looks way too large but I HAVE seen people with similar noses, just not this ethnicity.
The other day, I ordered a Pizza with a custom list of toppings and extra cheese crust. I am a chef and delivery services are one of my kitchen tools 😎
@@BlargvsBlorg Blender is also free, but skill don't come with it, and I have more fun with it than letting my computer have fun with Unstable Diffusion.
“And for those who say that doesn’t make me a chef, after the pizza I made via the ordering menu chef tool arrived, I opened the box and rearranged the pepperonis, and that takes real chef skills. At a professional level.”
When he said "it's proffesional level" I was just thinking about old video games like beyond good and evil, and cartoons like huntik and how yeah, his art fits perfectly. Jak and dakstar is another one. It's profoundly of its time and I hate to call a style outdated but it's certainly dated atleast. I like that style though.
I feel like he needs to just be okay with where he is. He’s not terrible. He just needs more practice and fine tuning. He could come up with a unique cartoon style.
Honestly he's better at drawing people than I am. I've thrown my lot in with water colour and printing and focus on animals and plants. Can't draw people to save my life. His early art is really charming, has that retro early 2000s vibe to it like a punkish Winx club. If he hadn't gone down the AI pipeline I could have really seen him growing a fanbase and making some amazing work. But that's probably all gone now, artists hate him and he's killed his personal style. It's sad tbh
The sad irony, for as "bad' as Shad's original art is, I find it infinitely more enjoyable to look at than his AI stuff. Despite the skill-level of it, it's got character and expresses what kind of person he is and what his interests are.
That’s the real bummer of it. I looked at his art and there’s REAL potential there. BUT getting to where he wanted to be takes a toll which he evidently didn’t want to pay, and so he was willing to sacrifice his artistic voice on the altar of perfectionism. And I think the dunking on the flaws in his old work actually is the kind of thing that pushed him to that. I almost feel sorry for the guy. Almost.
I feel so bad for jazza tbh. He tried to start a statement with "i love you but" and was immediately interrupted by his own brother denying it as if it was some kind of personal attack
What video is this? Cuz I think as an AI artist, deep down Jazza must recognise that a soulless machine regurgitating artworks goes against the spirit of art
Literally same (also, this would be an interesting concept for a superhero story. A superhero whose power is to make things come alive with his drawings learns his brother, who doesnt wanna devote his life to learning how to draw, has dabbled with dark powers (AI) and now our original artist superhero has to fight through hordes of uncanny valley images)
@@Eli-wl8es Isn't this just a better version of: "Girl, we been knowing how to draw." "BEAT BOXING PUPY!" "Huh?" dadado dabada da doo doo (my impression of beat boxing puppy)! The movie?
Because not only is the head too big, eye line is wrong. With original AI art, the buildings gave it grounding, so you were looking up at Supergirl while she is looking down at you. Without the skyscraper you are both hovering in the sky but you are slightly lower than her.
Shad talking about how he "really feels like he's putting brush to canvas" while just,, directing vaguely to the ai reminds me of how industry executives must feel when they boss the art team around. "Look at this team that I am leading. They surely could not have done this without me, really, I'm the TRUE artist!" when actually they're just parasites who squash creativity.
Yeah pretty much, the Ai and shad wouldn't've made the image in by their own... i'm glad you went to that conclusion... its almost as if a brush without being led by a painter would'nt do anything.... imagine that! All that you have the problem is shad not spending 2 years learning a skill and instead leveraging and multiplying his skillset with Ai.
@@agent1798 My guy if you don't want to learn to draw I've got good news for you: you don't need to be GOOD at drawing to make good content. Like, look at Go Nagai's art style in Devilman, tell me that's great drawings and I'll laugh in your face, and yet he still made a compelling thing. Or Cyborg 009. Or if you want to get into other media: I Wanna Be The Guy, the first Scream movie, Calvin and Hobbes. None of those are exactly acclaimed for their graphics/art/costumes/choreography, they're good because they appeal to the people they're going for. No one needs to be a Don Bluth here. But what Shadiversity is doing is throwing a thousand monkeys at a typewriter and claiming he's as much of a writer as Shakespeare.
There's something incredibly disturbing about watching a man put his wife's face onto AI generated models and constantly adjust anatomical proportions while also completing ignoring anatomical realism such as fingers, proportions, lighting, head-to-body ratio, etc. Those shoulders weren't too wide... that wasn't the problem.
the fact her head got even bigger and more out of proportion than his "art" 6 months ago is hilarious, there is zero artistry in what he is doing at all lmao
It really gives off this idea that Shad thinks "women can't have broad shoulders" even though it is perfectly normal for women to have broad shoulders, he just can't handle women not fitting his very specific fantasy of what he believes they should look like.
The way her arms are bending upsets me. For someone who has an ‘eye for anatomy’, he sure didn’t seem to notice that her biceps aren’t moving with the rest of her arm.
"I worry about 1 artist being asked to do the work of 10." You nailed it with that one. Literally every single tool that's come out since I started my first real art job out of college has made me more productive, and the only real difference to my quality of life is that I have much fewer co-workers now than I did years ago. None of us people down in the trenches ever seem to benefit from our increased productivity.
The only entities profiting or gaining something from more productivity are corps and maybe the self-employeed. Even then, work-life balance is abysmal when people aren't paid a livable wage for the work, continually pumping out products back-to-back until burnout hits.
This is so, so important and a point I don't see echoed as much. It affects artists, but also every single worker out there. If a tool doesn't improve the worker's conditions, it is a tool of oppression, not a tool of liberation. Sure, we can work faster than ever, produce more than ever..., yet our present and future keeps getting grimmer.
Yeah… that’s capitalism. It’s happened to every other job in existence and now it’s coming for artists. 😢 Real art that has heart and meaning will always be around just like craft beer or handmade guitars, but industrialization of art is definitely here to convert the artists that were previously employed in marketing departments and concept art houses. Until we overthrow the system that provides the incentive to dehumanize the world in support of “growth”, it will come for everyone in a repeating and perpetual ouroboros.
@crypticmortality8068 Nonsense. The cheaper and easier it is to make movies the more who can afford to do it. The lower the upfront investment on a project, the greater risk a studio is willing to take.
I find it hilarious that Shad’s brother is one of the most successful artists on the platform… like… imagine your sibling is a 5 star chef and you think you are just as talented as them because you managed to order dominoes…
@@BlargvsBlorg atleast it takes genuine effort using a camera to capture a perfect picture or using electricity to power his computer so he can boot up photoshop to enhance his drawings and photos instead of typing words on a screen (of which are probably copied and pasted as the case with most of these guys like shad) to play a luck game, just to mildly edit it and make it look worse than it already did.
@@BlargvsBlorg I'm talking from an artistic view, not the everyday 'novelty' thing like selfies, which still takes more effort than AI so I don't get your point. Your blatantly using things that has nothing to do with art as a counter to art.
"Hello waiter, I would like the bacon japaleno bison burger with the spicy mayo and remoulade. A side of picked okra and steak fries with house seasoning. Medium-rare with a toasted brioche bun." "Mmmm that was delicious. What a great meal I made for myself. I am an amazing cook"
I love how he thinks of himself as an anatomy genius and yet cant see how fucking big her head is compared to the rest of her body, and the funniest part is that this type of mistake is something that is common amongst COMPLETE BEGINNERS who normally learn to draw the face before learning proportions and anatomy correctly. I've done those same mistakes multiple times in the past but by actually learning how to draw and studying the subject I eventually learned how to at least make the proportions dont look off putting
Yeah... I paused on some of his other drawings, because he specifically mentions anatomy, not proportions perse, and lo and behold, you can spot many anatomycal errors, the most obvious for me is the sartorious not crossing the joint, which is silly as it is the most fun aspect of the muscle... So.. where was that knowledge?
Because I was an absolute rascal of a child and never listened to anyone's advice, I didn't start actually applying the stydy of anatomy to my art until quite late, and by that time I already almost had it just by trial and error. What's weird is until you know what you're looking for you don't really see it. I drew a lot of stuff in my childhood years and very early teens that I swear were absolutely awesome when I made them, now I pull them out (I have nearly every piece I've ever made stored in two big boxes) and they look like absolute dogwater. I mean I definitely had talent, but the proportions are so off, it's weird how now I can intuitively tell when something's off, but back then it was a lot different. In short, especially if you're inefficient about it like me (trial and error instead of study) this stuff takes a fair bit of work to get right, and someone who is genuinely experienced will be able to do it with no effort at all. Knowing my own past doggedness when it comes to ''my process'' I can't help but wonder if Shad suffers from the same sort of inability to just sit down and learn. I think he really wishes he could just intuitively make perfect art, which is why he loves AI so much. He's unwilling to learn, and that makes AI a perfect tool for him as someone with *some* experience and clearly some talent but not much of either. I'm glad I had to learn to draw because when I was still struggling with things there were no tools that you could use to really pretty up and mask things. Hell when I moved to digital it was with an essentially useless tablet and no money for any kind of good software, or knowledge of actually good software that would have been free. I started drawing with a mouse, and I still do that actually, it was a painful process to go from being near professional level on paper, to absolutely sucking at digital art, but I'm so glad I went through the trouble of learning, because learning is fun, and actually I'd argue it's a big part of what makes art fun, when you *actually learn* things, you actually get to brag about what you've learned, something AI ''artists'' will never get to experience.
@@Tasorius He'd never shut up regardless. And if he gives him problems, just block em off. Besides I doubt this would damage his life enough unless otherwise.
What breaks my heart with these AI illustrations are always the faces. The examples you show at the beginning demonstrates it perfectly: all these hand-painted female character have unique faces. They might look a bit weird, but they look like unique people. The AI art ALWAYS ends up gravitating towards the ONE „female comic face“. The most generic „pretty young woman“ face. And the AI-„artists“ don‘t even realize it. Because they don‘t do „art“. They didn‘t paint the face in a unique way the first time because they wanted to have a unique face, it just „happened“, and then the AI „art“ erases that without the „artist“ even realizing what has gotten lost in the process.
@@BlargvsBlorgthis is just… wrong. A skilled artist is completely unmatched by (current) ai. Unfortunately ai is incredibly cheap so it’s still a threat to creatives
@@BlargvsBlorg no, yet you go on and on about what a skilled artist would do, which is annoying as hell because you don’t have the authority to say so.
It generates towards a generic face because most people don't know how to describe facial features properly. Not really much different than photoshop; you can be lazy as shit and make things that are easily identifiable hack jobs, or you can learn and refine how to use the advanced features. I'll expand on that; if you get mugged and have to describe to a sketch artist what the mugger looked like and you just say 'a man', that artist is simply going to revert to the most comfortable stereotype they know. But if you can properly describe things like jowls or nose types or states of emotion, you'll get much closer to the truth. Whether you like AI or not, that's how it works and I'm fucken sick of watching people talk about it like it's just a one-button waifu generator. Clearly none of these idiots are aware of what controlnet is, or a lora, or how to describe lens types or film grain to get a specific image quality. All they see is the cynical commercial applications and hornyposters.
@@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control Because that's what's being used for, I couldn't care less about all this shit as long as this thing exists and is a threat to true artist's livelihoods.
Wait, Shad is Jazza's brother? Jazza did an ad a while back for an ai program literally praising and lauding the pictures he made with it over ones he paid for on Fiverr. So I wouldn't be surprised
You could do much better than that. As a real cook with a deep culinary vision, I'll typically spend at least 2 hours on my sandwich by giving it back and having them replace ingredients, typically at least a dozen times until I achieve the perfection I knew I could create
I get it now. AI "artists" are the people that think commissioned art costs too much and takes too long, so they get a cheap robot to make their commission for them instantaneously and then claim the art as their own because its not like the robot can legally caim it.
Honestly commission is expensive Not saying it's not worth the price Just that I can't afford it unfortunately One day, I hope I can pay an actual artist to make the work of my dream Until then, I just got keep working to get there
@ctchimchar5258 smaller artists are your freinds there, lots of smaller artists have far lower prices for art thats often still very good, my profile picture is art i comissioned off my freind for like 20$
@@ctchimchar5258this is kind of the point. art is a luxury; there are many artists around the world who have various prices, ive met some who are very cheap and ive tipped them so what they get matches what i'd pay an "american" artist
If you're a professional artist and not using AI to make your commissioned art, you're probably spending too long on it/overcharging for it. Use the AI and make some $$
Call it out! I’m an architect and clients constantly claim they “renovated their own house”, or even “designed my own office”. client feedback is not the client doing my work, it is them adding to my work. That the process feels collaborative and in the client’s control is a sign that you have a great artist not that you dont need your artist.
Yeah it always pisses me off when people go “Oh I built this!” like no buddy you hired people to build it. You got it built… by hiring builders. Also when people have products for sale and claim they designed it, when they aren’t designers and definitely hired a designer.
@@marinculic976 I think architecture is safe. People can pretend that a bad picture is good, but they'll have a hard time arguing that a building was well designed when it collapses under its own weight before construction was even finished, assuming the nonsensical blueprints weren't immediately tossed in the trash as soon as they crossed the desk of someone in the planning department.
Gotta love how Shad, the guy who complains if the slightest detail of a fantasy work isn't "historically accurate," is putting his female characters in pleated mini skirts with thigh high leg armor.
I know, right? Even his other '''works''' are, like, the most generic fantasy crap ever, what with the 'boobplates' on the women's armor and the uncovered parts.
@janehates or even acknowledge that he isn't the artist. If anyone is the artist it's the AI and the people who's work it's trained on. Not the prompter.
You forget, he made a whole video defending the historical accuracy of boobplate armor. Man is willing to fight for shit that don't make sense just because it feels good for him.
21:15 Please don't call them "Prompt engineers". They aren't engineers. I studied for years and got a masters degree in informatics engineering. I am an engineer. He's just a prompt maker, at the very best.
Ong, calling these people “engineers” is just as wrong as calling them artists. They’re just dudes typing a bunch of random words until a robot makes what they want. God I hate AI
Anyone who is obsessed with their "engineer" title probably isn't an engineer. I've never heard of anyone so self entitled for getting an engineering degree.
What saddens me the most is that his (non-ai) art isnt even *that bad*. Its very similar to most amateurs, or the backlog of a master. He *could* have been the great artist he sees himself as, if he just had the endurance to stick with it. Or at worst, he could have been a mediocre artist with soul and passion. But I guess the life by the conveyor belt is simpler than the life in the kitchen.
His art reminds me of what Jazzas art looked like when he showed his progress from beginner to professional. You can tell both brothers had/ have a passion for art and were sharing it at some point to the point that they developed similar art styles. But while Jazza persevered, Shad seems to have gotten frustrated and semi gave up. It's probably the constant comparison with his brother. I know that feeling. My sister also is a great artist and I used to compare myself to her which made me feel jealous and inferior. But I grew out of it which Shad doesn't seem to have done. He wants to prove he's just as good
or truly at worst: given up on art and do something else. i'm no artist, and i doubt i ever will as i just don't have in interest in growing that skill presently. i can put a ttrpg battlemap together with assets i'm allowed to use, i'm working on a world map that'll have soul, but at least i don't delude myself into thinking i'm some great artist. and still i think in a fair few ways i've developed more skill then shad. i use a program to put my maps together an assets someone else made, but i've learned how to make maps that look good and play fun. take away my program and i can use another, it'll just take time to get good with it's toolset, take away all my tools and i'll have to draw by hand and it won't look great at all, but it'll be mechanically fun still. and i'm just experienced with battlemaps and i piece of abandonware. at least my stuff is truly legal (looked it up before i posted any of it online)
The AI artists who want to "democratize art" just don't want to put in the actual work, they just want to reap the benefits. They want to be rockstars without spending 2+ hours a day practicing guitar, without dragging gear to and from venues, without learning how to write songs, and without having to physically put yourself out there and show the lifetime of dedication to your craft. If you(proverbial you) do not enjoy the process of creation, don't create, but don't also pretend that you're actually creating something just for the sole purpose of getting the social credit for it you imagine artists are getting. The art of creation matters to us, if it doesn't matter to you then don't pretend you actually understand it or what's valuable about it.
@@gwen9939 >The AI artists who want to "democratize art" just don't want to put in the actual work, they just want to reap the benefits. And how is that bad? People who want running water in they house are just lazy, ppl that use calculators are just lazy, ppl that use dishwashers are lazy. This is progress making something that used to be hard much easier, and faster to make. >If you(proverbial you) do not enjoy the process of creation, don't create, but don't also pretend that you're actually creating something just for the sole purpose of getting the social credit for it you imagine artists are getting. You think art has no utility, and it is just to stroke your ego? Art is part of many other projects, its utility shouldn't be restricted just because you want to live in the past, all sort of professions case to exist or become much more niche due to progress.
@@KraszuPolis You are absolutely correct... if one assumes standards and intention don't matter, I don't believe I need to explain to you the difference between menial tasks and the creative process, do I?
This weekend I fell down the rabbit hole of Shad and AI bros, Trying to sell me on AI art. Which has now inspired me to go out and buy a sketchbook, and learn to draw hands better. Cause that's what an actual Artist does.
@@min-fel Good for you for being a gatekeeper. I may be a mediocre artist, but I don't just blindly trust AI to do the work for me. I don't just create the work with AI, I analyze the work, compare it with works created by human artists, keep track of the similarities and mistakes, practice shapes, anatomy, perspective and shading to the best of my ability. Also, I have never monetized AI-generated art, and I never will. To me, AI art is merely a crutch and a tool for inspiration, but I'm aware that observing human art and learning by physically doing it is the only way to improve. I was doing art by myself for 11 years, even before AI art became popular, and I intend to keep creating things with my own hands, rather than relying on some obscure,, half-baked machine that spews out "art". AI is just another tool in my arsenal, like the Smudge Tool or the Spot Healing Brush. TL:DR: AI art may not help you to become a "actual" artist, but a passionate and curious artist can still use it to try and improve his skills, at least on some level.
@@Julez60 Keep being delusional. If AI art was so bad artists wouldn't be crying a river. They are scared because their own art isn't that unique or great.
By Shad's logic if I commission an artist they make a great piece out of what I ask of em... I'm the artist and the person putting pen to paper is just my medium...
This dude saying "My artistry is actually at a professional level" while the most amateurish shit is popping up on the screen is the funniest shit I've seen all year.
It's funny how Shad's brother is going to such pains trying not to offend Shad, while Shad doesn't care about his brother at all, claiming he's as good as Jazza, who has years of experience as a professional artist.
@@falco5148their relationship as brothers likely informs a lot of how Jazza interacts with him. Imagine attending a family gathering after you roast the shit out of your brother publicly on the internet.
What's really sad is that his own art isn't even that bad. He has a very distinct style in his own works that makes me think of 90's/early 2000's comics and cartoons. The man is so incredibly self conscious about his own skills when he really doesn't need to be, especially for someone who doesn't enjoy art for the sake of it.
I was thinking the same thing! He could definitely work with that style, it gives me the vibes of fantasy mangas and games from the 90s and early 2000s. If he put in the work and got a grasp on the fundamentals, his work could be far more interesting than the AI schlock he's churning out
He wrote a fantasy novel (maybe more than one by this point) and he is knowledgeable about swords and things, so it's not like he's lazy. But I do think he shouldn't be taking credit for work that the AI does for him. He can just say, "I choose to spend my limited time becoming a better writer, rather than focusing on art".
"A false equivalence or false equivalency is an informal fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning" Netflix did not "generate" the movie. The movie has been made. Nothing in the movie changed by the 2 hours of searching.
@@AgentH53They knew which themes and motifs worked better in combination with specific actors, they spent hours looking for the perfect combination. This takes real skill only achievable someone with genuine talent in film making, anyone could find the same film by pure chance but it takes skill to make this process flawlessly repeatable in results.
@@AgentH53 A person also does not generate an image. The computer does. So his equivalency is correct in comparing the role of humans in both the process of swifting through a Netflix movie catalogue and prompting a computer to generate an image. In both cases, the system is doing the work, you're just telling it what to do.
“Perfection” just means “Beautiful art station trending pretty image nice art” He’s so artistically illiterate that his idea of perfect art is just whatever over-rendered high res stuff that gets posted to Art Station on a daily basis. It’s the character art equivalent of taking photographs of sunsets and puppies.
I mean maybe on a personal level, but Jazza (thank God) isn't exactly making the counter-argument for AI-art either and has a much more nuanced take on what it does.
It's so cringe-inducing hearing Shad just trying to browbeat him into accepting the "I am a professional level artist" line. He's one of those obnoxious guys who thinks that just talking over you until you give up makes them right.
He could not be more insecure that the "art" he worked on was never on par with his brother. He got to the shitty level he got to and gave up. Didn’t want to work any harder to get past his ceiling and now he’s jerking himself off because he found a tool that doesn’t require him to put in any actual work to improve as an artist and even come close to his brother who he forces to play to his fantasies about being a "professional artists." It’s pathetic as hell.
They... actually are. Well, maybe not self defense, but for agression, yes. They were used by street gangs. A few people have made great videos debunking Shad on this subject as well.
@@GamePlayMetal I just couldn't take it anymore with him focusing on the lowest common denominator opinion and then making a multi part 30 min ep series rambling in his backyard with his evidence being whatever thoughts pop up into his head at that exact moment. He was entirely wrong about the power output where a video showed nunchucks making 90% of the hit force as a stick and then goes "Yes but here's another idea I just came up with that I'm going to waste 30 minutes of your life ranting about". The one example he showed of the security footage of the guy attempting to use nunchucks against multiple robbers running at him would have still gotten beat up if he had a stupid stick. Rant over. I wanna find those videos responding to him now
@@ravensharpless I think this one is pretty good, if you can get past the asmr voice, but the guy knows his subject very well ua-cam.com/video/UpXxw1dnhkU/v-deo.html
@@ravensharpless He seriously thought that an untrained schlub flailing nunchucks and sticks around was a valid was to test how they compare as weapons.
Saying the AI did 95% of the work is too much credit to Shad, or even the AI, for that matter. The artists' stollen work is doing 90% percent of the work, the model is doing another 9% regurgitating that artwork in some bastardized amalgamation, and Shad's done maybe 1% by typing some words and performing bad photoshop.
@@BlargvsBlorg thinking that AI artists will be able to find jobs is the biggest cope here. There is nothing in the AI field that would take too long for an actual artist to master, you think people who spend years to learn to render accurate anatomy in realistic perspective while composing stunning pictures from scratch would be unable to figure out how to use ControlNet if they had to? There is only two scenarios here - either the technology hits a plateau after automating a number of technical artistic tasks making the field even more competitive for the actual artists that would be assisted by the AI, or it will eventually get so good that there will literally be no jobs in the art industry, because automating the "prompting" part is just a matter of time.
@@BlargvsBlorg again, there is next to nothing to be "skilled at" when it comes to AI art, so calling an actual artist that is able to execute actual artistic skills an "AI artist" just for being able to use AI in their workflow is silly in the first place. By that logic every single artist is just a month of software learning away from becoming an "AI artist". That's why I'm saying that people who are getting into art through AI aren't the ones that are gonna get any jobs, because it's a useless grift, no company is gonna offer you a good paycheck for the skill of generating derivative work that anyone can learn in a matter of days. Also traditional artists aren't going to be affected by this, it's obviously just about the digital art.
@@BlargvsBlorg I don't really care what "challenge" you're talking about because there is no way it would hold any statistical value to talk about the %, but Shad's "work" here just looks like another bland AI image with a stiff pose, broken perspective, bad proportions and mindless lighting and composition, also just generally awful taste. Him going all "tips fedora" when scaling the character's shoulders to make her giant head look even bigger is a great example of "AI artists" either not knowing theory or not having it practiced, because the original issue was with the wonky perspective. If you genuinely think it looks impressive, then this not a discussion for a YT comments dispute, too much to unpack. Also you have no idea what people value in traditional art if you think they'd be interested in a robot's work. Manufacturing only made handmade stuff more valuable.
Its funny because when he mentions his distinguishable ai art all i can think about is how every AI image tends to do that specific sunset lighting. Doesnt matter what it is. Supergirl? That Hobbit-movie lighting. Viking? Hobbit-movie lighting. Medieval cottage? Hobbit-movie lighting. Those cozy libraries? THAT DANG LIGHTING again. I get it, warm lighting makes things cozy, the colours more vibrant... But can you at least pick a slightly different saturation? Just once?
I mean if you're prompting, you can probably ask for a different saturation, or at the end, take the image out and change its saturation in photo shop.
@@principal_optimism but they don't, and yet they claim to "put in a lot of effort" while not even caring to adjust the light source and overall saturation/tone lol
@@principal_optimism When photographers use multiple lighting sources, it's usually done in a way that minimizes visual confusion between the light sources, whether it's with different coloration, different intensity (as with highlighting & secondary lighting), or in this case, placement. AI can't replicate these factors exactly because the machine doesn't have an intent, only patterns that it decides to fit together in whatever way _seems_ correct to it. It can't interpret the full picture because all it knows are the details it was trained to recognize, so most models quite literally can't account for this.
I actually prefer shad's original drawings over the AI "enhanced" versions. They have an actual style to them and it reminds me of old school character art. He'd probably have an audience with a style like that.
Nah, his actual art is basically higher level high school art. Any mentor/teacher would send him life drawing to practice the fundamentals first. It’s basically potential at 15, or a stubbornness at whatever sector of the middle age bracket he resides in. For somebody that draws, this AI stuff is ugly, because it’s missing the je ne sais qua, for regular people eating up generic content shoved out of the content factory this is cool. It’s shiny, plenty of light source and everything else is good enough to ignore a weird thumb.
@@sloppynyuszi Eh, you might not like it, but his art is at the level where he could sell it if he dedicated the time to trying, even if improvement wasn't what he was going for. The uneducated masses aren't art aficionados, which is why they don't see an issue with this AI trash. I'm just saying that if it's between "early college comic art," and "computer generated wish fullfillment," I know which one I'd encourage any artist to stick with.
@@MewGirlZ art is subjective, but his art isn’t strong. I’m not sure what circles this would sell, but I see this kinda stuff in artist alleys in conventions where the artist is just sitting there with everyone walking past, they sell 2-3 things then complain the industry sucks or something. I hate these prompt generated images as much as the next person who appreciates images drawn by a human, and I don’t mind the kind of art that this dude does if the context is, he likes drawing for fun. If you like this drawing, more power to you, art is subjective. My problem with the art is, that’s neither style or skill. All the knowledge of form and composition is just a starting position that has no follow through. Not everyone has to draw or be creative ;)
Trying to be as charitable as I can: It sounds like he just wants to direct an art project and hire others to do what he's instructing, but is so insecure about being unable to create on his own that he only finds solace in AI. EDIT: You literally said this right after when I paused to make this comment oops lol. Anyways, this dude needs therapy.
This is prime Dunning-Kruger... FIY, any artist who hypes himself like this most likely isn't on a high level (and this is confirmed in this case when I look at his art). High level artists often suffer from the opposite problem, impostor syndrome.
@@alienrenders Usually synths are just used as computer generated instruments. Analogous to drawing on an iPad rather than paper. But even including those generating arpeggios or randomized loops guided by inputs, they still require direct interface throughout the process, both in terms of notes/tempo and overall structure of a piece--especially considering it almost never consists of a single synth putting a single string of notes. The composition, however much (hand guided) automation the tools may have, is still being assembled and built from its individual parts by the artist. Prompting is a request for an end product fulfilled by an outside source, and that's it. Prompting is analogous to, and in fact functionally indistinguishable from, a commission. Now the commission may be picky and detailed, and in this case it may be written in youtube-style tags rather than coherent sentences, but in the end the only real difference is you're feeding it into a photbashing algorithm rather than a fiverr account. You're putting in a custom order at a restaurant and calling yourself a chef. This is not elitism or gatekeeping or narrow-mindedness. It's the rejection of a desperate, obvious false equivalence. Its genuinely insane to me that this has to be explained to full grown adults. It's so depressing that while the corporations bleeding our entire species dry is phasing out actual expression of actual humans for lorem ipsum slop cobbled together by glorified chat bots and photo filters from an anonymous pool of actual art, a bunch of delusional, bootlicking, no-internal-monologue-having, creatively and intellectually bankrupt tools will praise it as some populist victory equivalent to the invention of the printing press. They won't even let society grieve the literal death of popular/commercial art in peace.
I am not sure if it is just me as someone who has drawn for years I have come to the realization that I suck. I will probably never improve. I am actually impressed at how bad I am. I am sure there is a group of artists who are self-aware of how bad they are and know they won't improve much. To put it simply, we know we are not geniuses but we are smart enough to know how dumb we really are.
I love how you called out her head for being so big after he said that bit about having an eye for anatomy. All I could think of as he was saying "this image is starting to look good" was how ridiculous her big head made her look. Personally, I feel he drained the original image of anything actually interesting - Supergirl in plate armor flying through the city is so much more interesting than a generic static shot of Supergirl in her generic costume in the clouds. I haven't sketched in a long while, but it's kind of making me really want to sit down and sketch medieval-themed Supergirl lost in a cyberpunk cityscape.
Yeah like taking out the building really detracted from the image overall. In the og image it was more dynamic to imply she was landing instead of just floating in the air and the placement of the building also gave her a decent framing. But instead of enhancing those cool aspects he just took them away.
Automatic generation (its not ai lets be honest) is absolutely a technology with potential. I literally have artist friends who'd have given them art to use for training data. The problem is that no one who advocates for it the most cares about that potential. Automatic generation is very useful for getting an idea. One of the biggest hurdles with commissions is the artist wants some kind of visual to work from. Even a stick figure. But most people don't want to do that because they'll feel stupid for it being so bad. This could bridge that gap. But no the people looking for an infinite money glitch insist they'll replace artists. Never considering that if it's that easy. Why would a company need you. When they can just pay the artists they already have to use the generation tools and then fix the generation tools flaws. Which this prompt artist cannot do
It is actually fascinating to watch him specifically add armour in the prompt but remove the actual armoured pauldron from the image as well as changing the somewhat interesting position of her landing with a hand on the building to the side by removing both the building to the side and the building she was landing on.
The thing that stands out to me is “I don’t like to draw, I like what I draw”, which feels like a coded way of saying “I’d rather get the attention of doing art than actually doing art”.
Eh, like you hear a lot of burn out from commission artists where they stop taking commissions because they don't want to draw but they are still proud of the art they put out. Still absolutely not what that guys saying or implying and you are totally right.
Tbh, out of context, I can understand that process of thought. You want to create fantastic images and spill your creativity out on the canvas, but the drawing process itself can be extremely frustrating. Especially when you're a beginner. I struggle with that a lot. BUUUUUUUUUUUT that doesn't mean I'm gonna take AI shortcuts. If a picture is made by an artificial intelligence then the best you can be is an artificial artist.
@kaksspl it can be but also rewarding if willing to take the dedication and timing... The fact that people only want the fast results make me question if they even want more than slop they complain about sometimes
No, I completely agree with that. While I can draw to a decent standard, I really don't enjoy the process, so I just commission artists instead and myself focus on writing.
@aristedes9449 Least you're willing to. Lot just now use it to not do that. I can agree we artists can get annoying to work with or some tend to be high pricing which even I disliked doing when tried to do commms. But given how some charge for things even stuff imo don't warrant the prices they push, I expect it. And yet these ai users want to charge or patron their generated slop using data trained from work of others. And yet one calls artists parasites??
And also, I was just sceptical about AI at first, but then - back when HaveIbeentrained still worked - I found AI had not just stolen 30 out of my artwork that I tried (and that was a tiny sample as I'm extremely productive), it stole my loving tribute to my beloved cat who has passed away. It was just a silly doodle when I made it, but that cat, and every drawing I made of her, meant the world to me, and it was fed into a soulless slop machine. Aside from all the other issues with AI, that was just deeply hurtful. My Lucymia deserves better. Her memory deserves better. People's loved ones are being turned into data stew for these lazy losers.
God The way Shad talks to Jazza in the clip provided is giving massive golden child complaining to family scapegoat/ or peace keeper vibes. It looks like, "I can do no wrong and have asked you for feedback I’m wholly incapable of hearing because my ego is bigger than my capacity to Handle criticism necessary to improve."
@@Rashkbb This might not be the intent, but the person you just replied to did a sort of mirror. OP up there tells us Shad is a psychotic narcissist and the rightful response to such drivel is "no u".
I love how fast they abandon the idea that this is "democratizing art" and making it "more accessible" as soon as they need to defend their pride and make it seem far more difficult so they can get the same accolades as the artist's they're stealing from.
As someone who’s heard Shad’s political discussions I think he would take great offense to calling AI art the “Socialist redistribution of talent and work to the untalented and lazy” So I say we should do that.
@@lucascoval828it will get better. In fact, technology improves every year. The only people who are complaining about AI are the ones coping for the inevitable. It's going to happen so you might as well learn the skill now and improve as technology improves so you don't find yourself unemployed or working in a restaurant in 5 years
What's sad is I actually enjoy his personal drawings. No, they're not necessarily professional. But, there's plenty of cartoonists out there that also un-refined. If he wanted to improve, he could have found plenty of teachers either locally (I know he has the cash for that) or plenty of free material to be found online - especially on UA-cam. Seeing him mutilate his own work to look like a beginner's over-cooked photoshop job just bums me out.
It takes years or decades+natural talent to learn drawing well. Not all people has the time. Also not all people can learn to draw well if the person(like me) does not have natural talent to draw. This is why i think ai enchanted art is great tool for people that does not have natural talent to draw.
@@markoliimatainen2565 Or it could take a few weeks. I think a lot of people make it out to be both harder than it is but also far too easy. That said, I don't want to get mad at end-users who gravitate to these services. But, I still encourage that if you're already a bit of a creator... Feel free to revel in what you can do.
@@markoliimatainen2565Anyone can learn how to draw at a high level. Talent has nothing to do with it. Natural talent can certainly help improve at a faster pace, but it's not a prerequisite. Picking up a pencil and being bad is something every single artist goes through. The difference comes in the mindset. Do you decide you want to be better, or do you instantly give up because it's hard?
@@markoliimatainen2565 We often mistake talent for devotion and willingness to put time and interest in a given skill. "Not having a talent" for something is more often than not just an excuse. I have no talent for drawing, but I like to see what I have in mind turns to a drawing on a piece paper. I am thrilled to put my time to and create, make mistakes, learn, improve. Maybe I could say that my "talent" is feeling that I want to do something. But to be more precise, the very definition of talent states that it is a natural aptitude or skill - so something you are born with. The actual talent you might think of is reserved for those extraordinarily gifted, those who don't have to practice, or can practice little. Those who are already one or more steps ahead - one such example is Mozart who composed his first piece at the age of 5 and at the age of 6 he played at an imperial court - THAT is talent. Again, don't mistake talent for willingness to work for something.
This is Photo-Manipulation not creating. I used to work with artists on fiver alot, and do the same thing he’s doing. Grab their work, mess with it send it back and they’d re-draw it. I sloppily put stuff together so they would have a reference. I was not an artist, I was just communicating my imagination TO an artist. Major difference
As a 3D Artist and a HEMA swordsman, I can't explain in simple terms how much Shad annoys me. All I can really recommend is that if you're serious about learning the art of Painting, Drawing, 3D modeling, Animation, or even Swordplay... You should try it yourself! I'm serious, try it! Even if you think you're terrible, learning how to do it is one of the most rewarding feelings in the world! The comparison to AI Art as a slot-machine is really on-point! It's designed to hook you in and never let go. "Maybe this time, I'll hit it big!" Watching this makes me feel so bad for Jazza. He really is a great 2D artist, you should watch him- and not his bully of a brother, who I wish I could double-unsubscribe from. Great video! The thumb joke at the end killed me!
The real thing about trying art is you WILL be terrible at it, especially at the period at the start of your hobby/passion/profession/however you wanna call it Just let yourself suck at it and keep trying
Painting, drawing, 3D modeling etc. are difficult to learn for a lot of people. Including me. I’m terrible at anything that has to do with art, I did dual enrollment in my high school years for 3D animation and hated it because the guy who “taught” is brought us into a room, did a rough run-through of something he wanted us to make, said “make that”, slapped a packet on our desks and walked away. Same thing with photoshop and why to this day I refuse to learn it. I’m writing a webcomic and honestly would have a.i. draw it because I can’t draw for sh*t much less entire scenes, what’s wrong with a.i. art if it allows people who don’t have the skills to be creative to be creative? And btw I found an artist for my webcomic but that’s beside the point. I know my learning how to draw would be a waste of time because I know I would be trash at it.
@@adandyguyinspace5783 I get that. Really. But the solution isn't AI-Image generation. The solution is, which you've done, hiring actual artists. Art isn't just about looking good. Look at One Punch Man or Mob Psycho 100 (The mangas). They visually aren't professional. They aren't highly detailed masterpieces. But they've got compelling story telling and art that fits. Image generation can help you get a feel for what you want when you don't find the motivation to learn or when you are desperate and in a tight spot regarding money. Learn it on your own time. Don't stay with bad teachers like the one you had. I taught myself everything, and believe me, it does wonders in terms of being frustrated or "bad". Art isn't about being good. It's about showing the world what you see, what you want to see, how you feel. AI can't do the latter. It's not art. Art is intention. Au can generate images, not true art. Not bashing you either, if you want to use it, use it. But be aware of why artists see image generation as bad. It's not because of people like you who can't reach the standards they want to meet with their own skill, it's about corporations hurting the artists they steal from and replacing them simply because of profits, or snobs like the man criticised in the video who essentially calls artists obsolete and who is simply lazy and cheap while tooting his own horn.
you know what would be really nice? if robots could actually do hard labor and humans could focus on what actually matter like arts, science, philosophy and such
I keep thinking of the sci-fi trope of the robots being better at everything except creativity, emotion, art. And now we live in a world where ART is the thing most in danger of being replaced by robots. Surreal.
@@dustrockblues7567 it always was just copium from elitist creators, who were thinking that "those pleb jobs are going to get automated, not us the thinking class". When you actually think about it, most art can be described through an algorithm pretty easily, I mean, that's how it is taught. Drawing, writing, poetry. Meanwhile, to automate a plumber you need basically a fully functional android, even to automate a worker doing one task on an assembly like you need an expensive and sophisticated robo-arm in many cases.
To be honest, that wouldn't really be any better for society as a whole either. Not everyone is intelligent in that way, and not everyone gets enjoyment from thinking too deeply about things. Humans need the ability to be laborers.
His art (the unedited pen drawing, not AI) reminds me of what Jazzas art looked like when he showed his progress from beginner to professional. You can tell both brothers had/ have a passion for art and were sharing it at some point to the point that they developed similar art styles. But while Jazza persevered, Shad seems to have gotten frustrated and semi gave up. It's probably the constant comparison with his brother. I know that feeling. My sister also is a great artist and I used to compare myself to her which made me feel jealous and inferior. But I grew out of it which Shad doesn't seem to have done. He wants to prove he's just as good
It is is really sad when this happens, especially since a lot of people seem to forget there’s lots of other ways to be an artist besides drawing. I was in the same boat, my little sister is a prodigy at drawing, and me and my other sister tried to follow. By all accounts, we were all very good, and she was extremely supportive of us, but I was never able to put in the “work” to make my drawings look the way I wanted it to. So I kind of gave up. Then, my grandma taught us how to crochet one family vacation, and four hours later, I discovered amigurumi (crochet stuffed animals). I was a MONSTER. In 6 months, I have my own little “zoo” of toys, have completed 5 commissions, and several gifts for family members, including a 4 foot long goose for my boyfriend. But the first gifts I made were for my sisters, because a lot of times, it felt like they were my biggest cheerleaders. People should support each other more in their own hobbies, and also branch out themselves a bit more. If that were to happen, I feel like less people would feel that their products are underwhelming.
This feels so relatable I have a brother 2 years younger than me and he is smater and stronger than me I have in our school years always been jeolues of his prowes but now i have found what unique in me and griwn out of those things
You know, it makes perfect sense that Shadiversity would be an AI art bro. He's always been the sort of person that twists his own standards to glorify the things he likes and shit on the things he doesn't (historical accuracy is paramount except when it isn't, a weapon being effective is essential except when it isn't, realistic worldbuilding is all-important except when it isn't), and pretends like his book is a flawless monument of fantasy literature when it...very much is not. Of course he'd do the same thing for this.
For some reason, he has really, really attached everything on his double bladed sword, attempting to do his best to demonstrate why it is an unsung god-tier weapon. I mean, he could use simple logic: there's a reason why Halbeards, quaterstaffs, Naginatas and bo-staff are far more common weapons and no one seriously tried to forge two swords together to make sword-staff. It just isn't practical.
yeah il be honest, i used to watch him years and years ago, when he spoke about detailed world building inspired by brandon sanderson and detailed magic systems that make sense and have rules i got intruiged by his book so read it hooo boy is it bad, genuinly just abysmally writen (and has a lot of "the artists barely disguised fetish" shit hanging around in it too) and it just immediatly keyed me in that this guy has no idea what hes talking about then a year or 2 after i stopped watching him i hard some of his political views.....yeah im very glad i stopped
As a long time fan of his channel (but not him as a person) you can REALLY tell he's very egotistical and stubborn. In his sword making videos, his colleagues often disagree with him on what they should do and he just overrules them, only for them to be proven right many episodes later, meaning they wasted a lot of money because he refused to listen. And when his book did really well (I actually do love it), he bought a MASSIVE section of land. Except he didn't buy it. He got a mortgage. As an Australian, I can promise that the property market in Australia is beyond screwed and getting worse every year, and will get worse every year until the whole country riots on the level of the BLM 2020 protests. Mortgages are a massive scam you're forced into because renting is even worse (I'm only 25 and I've nearly died in rentals multiple times). So signing up for a mortgage based on a sporadic income relying on ONE book for the deposit is a TERRIBLE idea. Point being, now he's constantly releasing videos on how his channel is dying. It's rough that the algorithm is punishing him for no reason, but he'd be in a WAY better position if his reaction to his highly successful book release wasn't "I'M RICH NOW!" and signing up for a loan he could never pay back. The guy just keeps digging himself further and further down.
I do like how he tries to gaslight Jazza that he draws at a professional level when Jazza is an actual professional artist and has been for years. Also hilarious considering he is glossing over the mistakes AI makes.
As an amatuer who had reached roughly shad's level (with better anatomical knowledge) I can tell you absolutely that he has not. He could definitely find people to throw 20 dollars at him on deviantart for a commission now and then, but would not be hired as a professional artist.
@@justin_5631 That's probably what he means by people commissioning him. I've been drawing for a long time and even I wouldn't say I'm at a professional level. There's a huge jump between a real pro and a hobbyist. Had Shad kept on the path he would have gotten there one day just like anyone would with enough time and dedication instead he'd rather be lazy.
That was really awkward watching that interaction between him and his brother. You could tell how uncomfortable Jazza was because he’s too nice to tell Shad what a dickhead he’s being.
Watching Shad claim he is professional level with a strength in anatomy in particular when his drawings are ... decent at best with rather poor anatomy, its all just so cringe man, i've lost respect for the guy
Its like hes never met an actual digital artist before, because digital artists use post fx all the time. Hes also just ignoring the fact that this human input that hes doing is going to be eradicated because the end goal of AI art programs is to be flawless from the beginning with little effort. Even AI "artists" themselves are going to be replaced in a market so saturated and easy to pick up that theyll just train in house employees to do this stuff in a few days.
Shadiversity after beating a Guitar Hero song on hard mode: As a trained, professional musician, and a perfectionist, I am perfectly qualified to teach this course on songwriting and advanced guitar techniques.
@@Sejten11it's still better, at least they play something kinda similar to guitar(although still very far from a real guitar play), they aren't flexing a robot playing the guitar instead.
I'm more qualified to teach than him, since at least I've had two non consecutive years of actual guitar lessons, and actually know how to play one. And I'm not even remotely qualified to teach anything.
This is like saying that commissioning art from an artist takes skill, and that describing what you want to see to said artist takes just as much time and effort as drawing the art itself.
@@BlargvsBlorg - Imagine having the mindset that knowing what does and doesn't take equal effort and skill is basically being stuck in the ways of old. Like, you realize that makes zero sense, right? Aren't *you* capable of telling how much work goes into things you produce and consume? All they said was they don't require the same level of skill. Y'know, the kind of thing technology tends to be known for introducing? More people with less skill churning out what somebody else knows how to make from scratch? For someone so knowledgeable as to teach the "boomers," you have to know that. Usually, those people being aided by new tech and options aren't claiming they're chefs because they can order a meal to go and say "toasted; add extra salad; no mayo," then wait 'til it's cooked and delivered by car. Or that they're calligraphers because they can print out words in premade font styles. For some reason, you're being strange about someone echoing that same sentiment about AI art. When you're doing AI art, you're a client unilaterally deciding several artists will fulfill your commission, copping their work and splicing it together, not paying them nor asking their permission to use their work, and then saying twenty peoples' creations are *yours.* No, it's not the same as actually working to not just understand how and why each composition comes together, but gain the muscle memory, coordination and consistent movements necessary to use the knowledge you have. But seeing as your comment didn't actually address OP, I doubt you actually came to debate the topic at hand, as opposed to conflate the issue raised to be something easier to discredit.
@@BlargvsBlorg - Lol. Once again, ignoring the arguments I actually presented and conflating them to get something easier to discredit. Thanks for confirming my guess about your lack of intent to acknowledge the statements actually presented by the people you're addressing. Not exactly how competent debates work, so I'll call it off on my side. Neither of us will get anything out of it - at least not anything people properly debate to gain.
00:45 I think 6 months is long enough for you to learn basic drawing from 0 experience, like dude, just enroll in a drawing class or something, no one prohibits you from using AI if you learned to draw.
Was thinking the same. Her head is massive and the foot he talked about getting correct.... wasn't even positioned correctly. He spent 2 hours making the original AI art a worse picture and wants credit. It's like a toddler scribbling glasses on your masterpiece and claiming they are the artist.
@@undeniablySomeGuyI was also very surprised by that. It’s obvious that it’s every other part of her body which is too small, not the shoulders being too wide.
It gives me vibes of obscure animated cartoons that air right as you get home from school and get cancelled after 16 episodes. It's not great technically but the direction wasn't that bad tbh
I used to do work like Shad's in photoshop when I worked as an auction photographer. Digital manipulation to remove artifacts, (Without misrepresenting the quality of the auction item) was a key piece of marketing to boost sales by effectively advertising online... So you adjusted levels, cut out backgrounds, removed or added shadows... It is alot of work, especially when you have 2 weeks to do this to over 1000 items people pay for the privilege of... So in my experience I can't say Shad isn't doing work... But I hesitate to call it art unless it's at the bottom end of the art scale. It's an impressive handling of the technology, but the foundational construction of the image wasn't performed.
Honestly after trying AI generators, it gave me more reasons to learn how to draw and become an artist not a prompter, I do believe they are useful as tools like brainstorming other than that its boring and sometimes infuriating.
I agree, after a while you realize AI can only spew similar things (mostly portrait) they can do some other things, but not very good at it, especially bad for action pose or scene. Heck ai can't even get weaponry right. For brainstorming tho, its very good
One thing I think AI is genuinely good at, and I don't mean that as a joke, is eldritch horror concept art. There's some amazing art of creatures and locations that really capture the "impossible to describe" horror of some of Lovecraft's writing. Part of it is because AI sometimes makes errors that a human wouldn't think of.
AI is great for talentless artists like me. Finally I can create realistic characters instead of stick figures. I'm so thankful this new technology. All my life have dreamt of creating art and finally I can do it. Now I can spend my time iprovimg things I'm actually good at, instead of trying to learn how to draw for the 100th time.
The most upsetting aspect of this type of AI image generation to me is the sense of satisfaction it brings. When I dabbled with one of these I was haunted by the thought that If I had access to this technology when I was 7 years old I might not ever learned to draw, art might have become a novelty that I got bored of. My heart is broken for the young artist that may never be.
3:40 Shad: "My strengths are anatomy and character" This may be the best example of Dunning-Kruger ever caught on video. Shad has not the slightest idea how bad he is
@@dejanjakobovic9803 because then the same issues remain, if shad doesnt know what hes doing wrong the robot is definitely not catching it either so its the exact same only this time hes using stolen data for it
@@dejanjakobovic9803 nope But if he’s going to market himself as a constantly growing artist who has an artistic eye for proportion, anatomy, and a specific style, then it would lend him more credibility if he and his robot weren’t stumbling in the dark repeating the same issues he had in his traditional art days but neither having the basic artistic skill to recognize the problem. Artists sometimes deliberately ignore anatomical rules for the sake of styles. They know the rules and then break them to achieve what they want. If you’ll notice, that’s not what Shad is doing, his anatomy became worse while he was mouthing off about how he was FIXING IT because he has the artistic eye to recognize proportions and anatomy. He broke the rules while bragging about following them
That's not passive aggressive. At all. That's him not wanting to call out his brother in public, but also not being willing to be bullied into saying what he knows is a lie.
It's not even that, the point he's making is that professional level artists aren't getting work, it is a big problem. Shad wants to make it about skill and how he's "professional level". The point is "bro, there are many artists 10 times better than you and they aren't getting work, because there's so few jobs".
That’s not what happened. What happened is his brother was making a fool of himself and Jazza was effectively as being as nice as possible without outright lying. However Shad can’t take a hint and insisted on pushing him until he was forced to make a mild statement of criticism.
20:07 "You take away my computer, I can still draw and paint. I still know anatomy, I still know Color Theory. I can still draw a scene in three-point perspective." "If you take the magic Skinner box away from an AI artist, they are dead in the water" This is probably the biggest thing to point to when it comes to AI art. No matter how much they claim it makes them an artist or a better one, those skills vanish the moment they step away from the computer. At best, they can direct another artist in better detail than they could before. The program does not make the artist. The skills of the artist makes the artist.
I am mainly a 3D artist where a situation like this can be applied to much better than others. Taking away my computer does not take away my ability to draw. Nor does it take away my knowledge of composition, lighting, anatomy, perspective, etc. That's the part that matters. Skill can transfer between programs and mediums. I use Blender mainly, yet I can just as easily make the same stuff in another program like 3DS Max once I familiarize myself with the layout (And have before). For 2D artists, it's just as much the same. Each stroke is still done by hand. Remove photoshop and they'll either move to a new program or return to pen and paper.
And now we're in an age where graphics aren't everything. At least, Realism isn't everything. I've used AI Image Generators a little in my spare time. I know the keywords and the process Shad's gone through to make something with it. I still would not use it to replace my own art process. Enhance it maybe? But never fully replace. And I've seen that use already with some artists using it to tackle parts they don't enjoy as much like say a distant city they then paint over a bit. The fun of art for me is the process of making it. Looking at something and knowing somebody genuinely made that with their own hands. It's why so many people look down at something the moment they realized it's AI generated. Suddenly every stroke on the canvas means nothing more than another rule a computer is following. Art is not a popularity contest. Nor is it a race to make the best, most realistic-looking piece ever. It's a medium for people to express themselves. AI generated art is more so like (as mentioned in the video) you're directing someone else to make something. They make their piece and show it to you. Then you tell them what you want adjusted or edit it yourself to say "make it look a bit more like this". That's not you making something. That's you telling someone to make something for you. At least when you're commissioning art from someone, there's still meaning in each stroke of the brush.
@@BlargvsBlorg The most popular game being played right now is Lethal Company. A game that, by all means, looks terrible graphically. And yet it's running toe-to-toe with the latest Call of Duty release. We have comic artists taking it into their own hands to make their ideas into films and animated series with funding purely by their fans. With more popping up every other month. Meanwhile the corporate space like Marvel has been falling down a drain of cheaper and cheaper looking FX as they keep changing the script or give impossible deadlines. Being more realistic doesn't matter if your budget pushes you right back into the uncanny valley. I've seen AI make its space here too. For Deepfakes to make a character look more consistent with how they should look when the actor's grown old. I've seen the jank of early AI used in horror products to enhance the uncanny feeling of a certain scene or the monster. It's an amazing tool that'll keep improving. I have myself generated some really neat stuff I've shown to friends who I've tossed tips back and forth with. Even using it to generate some really neat character designs I'd later go on to draw then model myself. But I set my foot down when someone spend five seconds in Stable Diffusion, grabs the first few results, and uses that as a reason why they're a better artist than I'd ever be. I'm a Zoomer. I *AM* the next generation of artists. I'll use this tech how I believe it should truly be used and you can keep rambling from your couch.
@@BlargvsBlorg False. Artists /can/ draw without Photoshop. Abusing layers? My brother, that's just reducing destructiveness. It's excellent for putting in a portfolio.
@@BlargvsBlorg The fact that a lot of artist /won't/ do something does not therefore mean they can't. 'Personally wrap each package' or, you know... scan it? I don't know why you feel the need to dickride the mass theft and misappropriation of people's art to create lifeless images for douchebags.
Once I learned Jazza is his brother everything made so much more sense. Dude has been overshadowed by his little brother for his actual talent for as long as he's been doing it, and forever scorned that his "talent" is just knowing shit about swords.
@@DatBrasss I don't like Shad but he does have reasonable knowledge about certain historical periods and weapons. Hower he tends to go from "knowing about a topic" to thinking he is an expert on said topic which results in him making inaccurate conclusions that often get disputed by actual professionl historians. Shad's real issue is his insecurity combined with a massively inflated ego from the small amount of youtube clout he has. Jazza, who is a lot more talented and succesful on youtube, has been able to stay humble where as Shad is so insecure that any slight criticism, valid or not, will cause send him into a major rant.
@@dgmt1He doesn't know much about swords because he does not understand the fundamentals of scientific research. Waving a sword around and checking to see what techniques feel logical to you isn't research and does not allow you make accurate inferences and predictions about how swords were actually used. This is the issue Matt Easton and others have had with him going back years. If you want to know about how something was used historically, you need to understand how to conduct, or at the very least read, scientific research. Everything Shad "knows" about swords can be learned in an afternoon on Wikipedia.
How is he so delusional? I'm not an artist. He draws _way_ better than me. I'd be confused for children's first drawings. But you can see lots of problems with his stuff. And things that don't appear intentional. How does he not see that?
It's a tragic irony in a way that the love letter comes from Shad out of all people. It wouldn't be so strange if it came from some crypto loving sigma male grinder NFT invstor, which there are quite a few out there. Shad on the other hand built his channel on medieval history. You'd think a person like that would perfectly understand the value of handcrafted work, because in the subject of which he built his fame, virtually everything was handcrafted and tailored.
I'd be less mad if Shad would just own up to his laziness, but his superiority complex is in a whole level of infuriating of its own. He's really the embodiment of why AI "artists" could never be respected.
His whole "look at how much human input this has!!" Is like your friend making an amazing batch of cupcakes and you going over and sprinkling mismatched store bought sprinkles and then claiming you made the cupcakes.
The only thing that separates shads AI machinations from other AI machinations is that some people try and generate women with pants; a concept that the algorithm in Shad's brain doesn't comprehend
Was once bored out of my mind and tried to generate a picture of a woman with acne with AI. Used several tools. Wasted like slightly more than an hour. Didnt succeed.
I ran 60mph yesterday. Yeah I was in a car, but I was pushing the gas pedal and steering. Not even Usain Bolt can look down on me for my speed.
shut up. timo bernhard ran around the nurburgring nordscheife in 5:19 using a porsche 919 evo. yes he was controling the brakes and gas, but he ran around the nurburgring.
YOU ARE CAR 🚘
Oh thank God you have the self control to walk to work every day who actually needs cars am I right?
I can run, but I don't enjoy it!!!
I don't want to spoil the fun but, Bolt was running in a formula E car, and I think he can run faster than 60mph.
Jazza breaking his back to not call out his brother live at a convention.
That clip really hurt to watch
Shocked to find out they are brothers... Jazza has always been such a warm spot for learning to draw to have his own brother act like this... it must be so hurtful.
The pain in his face hurt me to watch
I only just found out they’re brothers, they’re so different and shad is such a weird cringy dude , hard to imagine they’re brothers
It sounds like his brother got into art for personal reasons, which is surprising. I thought that he was in it for the soulless, easy money. It’s unfortunate that he fuels his work with jealousy instead of literally any other positive emotion.
omg I'm so sorry for Jazza, he looked so uncomfortable
like, he knew that he was right because he knows his stuff, but he can't say that without sounding arrogant. As an Artist who is on a *way* lower level than jazza and someone who's followed him for years, that was just painfull to watch
Right? Even before the clip was shown I thought to myself "Wait isn't he literally the brother of Jazza, an actual professional artist. Wonder what Jazza thinks about this" and then the clip came and it was so uncomfortable to watch
I watch both of them and... Man I can't help but lose respect for Shad after that. Its so painful to watch
What’s worse is that Jazza is the LITTLE brother. Like, I would never IN MY LIFE speak to my little bro that way. It goes against every law imaginable.
@@ImortalZeus13WTF, Jazza is the little brother? That only puts extra irony since Jazza being the bigger person.
Also damn, Jazza is a kind person but he could have had diabetes from sugarcoating this much. Though I respect his finesse, and I aspire to learn it.
@@neurofiedyamato8763 why would you still watch shad after he has shown himself to be not only a total hack, but an actually awfull person
(he has more then once been very open on his 2nd channel about some rather disgusting views he has)
5:30 Every time Blender updates I need to learn the differences, make sure my plugins work, and ensure that my keyboard shortcuts transferred over. That is not what makes me a 3D artist.
Its simply the price of admission
his whole thing is talking about 'artistry' the same way one talks about being proficient with microsoft office, which is essentially what he is. He is using a piece of software made to be broadly usable at a level above the bare minimum proficiency.
@@DNeonLamp that's interesting, actually
No one ever says that knowing how to use Microsoft Office, for example, makes you a good writer.
But his whole speech is about how using AI makes him a skilled artist
@@DNeonLamp The ability to write words doesn't automatically make you a skilled writer.
I love it when blender moves the ui for no reason as a major update 🤤🤤
It's so wierd that someone with such an "artist's eye" never noticed the sun in the background reflecting off the front of her costume
anyone who knows how lighting works in cinematography will tell you that the brightest highlights should be created by the brightest light source. Besides, there's nothing artistic or "progress" about mashing together a bunch of stolen art into a crude representation of an idea you aren't skilled enough to create yourself. @@BlargvsBlorg
@@BlargvsBlorg it's crazy how quickly you people show your hatred towards actual artists lol. You didn't even bother to dispute anything I said.
I'm not attacking science; I'm defending art, which you're attacking. I'm not worried though, if history shows anything it's that we'll never stop creating art.
@DPH-sp9vt most of them are mad that crypto died (no matter how much they insist it hasn't) and are wanting this to be their next get rich method. Because surely this'll be the revolution right? Its not a bubble. Is it any wonder they say "you'll be replaced" the same way people in crypto called everyone poor
@@BlargvsBlorg yes that's exactly what I'm going to do. Also, unaliving myself, maybe. Fuck I wish I never was born.
@@DPH-sp9vtFAX BROTHER!!! SPEAK YO SHIT INDEED!
AI bros constantly go back and forth on the "this took effort" and "this makes art so easy" line
I mean, they're right though. Generating + touching up takes a fraction of the time compared to achieving the same thing from scratch. It's insanely fast. But at the same time, it's not the myth of click-n-done. Gonna need neural interfaces for that to happen.
@@tahunuva4254 Or just better models. DALLE3 already has a much better text understanding than the old StableDiffusion1.5, which makes it much easier to put together complex scenes with just a text prompt that would have required a lot of manual in-painting previously.
Neural Interfaces might not be all that far of either, there is already a paper titled "High-resolution image reconstruction with latent diffusion models from human brain activity".
@@tahunuva4254 while yes, it's not a click-and-done type of stuff, but it's still a braindead process of typing, generate, generate, typing, generate, slider, generate, touch ups, typing, generate and on and on and on and on while lying to everyone and yourself that you're a "great artist" like Shad did.
The 2 are not mutually exclusive.
It is easy to take a photo of a person and capture exceptional detail, previously only possible from master painters.
However there is still a level of skill involved in capturing the perfectly framed posed and lit photo, thus why people with iPhones still pay professionals to get a good family portrait
@@DanzIndzyou are describing the difference between a script kiddie and a certified professional coder, which is itself a massive difference in skill level.
On a side note, Supergirl having to fight against hundreds of AI-generated copies of herself would make a rather interesting comic storyline.
Ikr? A modern touch lol. 😂
One of them should be Galatea/Powergirl for lore reasons :D
The fight could happen on a planet with multiple suns
@@Problemsolver434 Tatooine XD
I am kind of disturbed on how shad seems to widen supergirl's nose tho, is he basing it on someone irl?
His actual art without the AI isn't bad. It has a very mid-2000s webcomic kinda look to it that some people really like and is also where a lot of really great artist started. That is to say, why's he gotta use AI?
The lineart isn't horrible. The shading and color work are garish
@@logan6232thats okay if he went on to improve that instead of relying on ai lol
If he actually put in effort towards tuning his art style and learning more about anatomy, he'd be a baller fantasy artist. He has the fundamentals there.
It's especially egregious when you realize he had 20 years to constantly work on improving his art and yet he decided to start doing this shit instead
AI Bros often have an Objective view on art, that art below a certain arbitrary "quality" level is of no use to the artist, or any of society, and might as well be discarded. As such, they care only about 1 thing: the end result. Does it look "professional"? Is it free of "Mistakes" or "Errors"? Does it look like something that would be in a museum?
To them, Art is another Stock or Bond, another thing to be used, traded and sold to maximize profits. They don't care what it says, or how it says it, as long as it looks pretty enough.
Dude probably bought into these ideas by way of his own insecurity and thus has gone to obsessing about how "good" the art looks over developing his own personal style.
I miss when "AI Art" was just people asking AI to make weird shit for them, like "Obama eating a metal door while-... pissing gatorade" and then looking hilariously deformed.
I miss when it was pictures that looked like "something" but if you look at any part of the picture it really doesn't look like anything and your brain would just hurt.
@@anon746912 Teaching machines to peep the horror and then just lashing it down until it retches up something that roughly looks like real images and occasionally generating invisible static layers over an image that will increase the amount of people that associate this picture of a car with apples by 30% for nightmare black box reasons
i have some old ai art from midjourney, its like weird cyberpunky oil paintings kinda, full of artifacts and weird stuff that makes no sense, i feel like the imperfections and weirdness are the part that made it interesting
Fr, I've never seen anyone else show what nightmares look like
Me to man
Shad: "It's human art that's just AI-assisted!"
Based on Shad's process, it looks more like AI art that's HUMAN-assisted.
@@BlargvsBlorg „AI Art looks better than most Human art”
1. That is kind of false, once you look at how generic it looks.
2. Please, the only reason for its quality is because it steals and copies from the best human artists.
„At the end of the day, no one cares about of how products are made, only the end result.”
This type of thinking is evil, and you know it.
„Otherwise, people would protest 99% of all their goods comes from China and its sweatshops”
How about we actually start protesting then?
@@BlargvsBlorgthis is the most braindead take on AI I have ever seen holy shit. Are you okay?
@@BlargvsBlorg „Machines are thus superior to human artwork”
Speed is not a part of art. Speed is not part of the value of art. This type of thinking is, simply put, anti-human, and anti-artist.
„The economy would collapse if you tried”
It will collapse anyway when global warming shows it effects in the near future.
Also, if an economy is based on evil things, then it ought to be ended.
„Since most people already live paycheck to paycheck already”
Meanse we are morally obligated to increase minimum wage, and to bring back unions at their full force, to actually improve wages. And also to build cheap(or even free) housing en mass, and to support free healthcare, to allow people to save more.
@@BlargvsBlorg „Anyone who sells art commercially is absolutely affected by speed”
Irrelevant. Speed is not important for the artistic value.
„Lol, so why are you even concerned by AI if we're all going to die in the end? ”
Because I want to make the world better, and to avoid the negative future.
„Sounds great except, who's paying for it? ”
THe governments of the world, who ought to put massive wealth taxes, land value taxes, and also a tax on automation.
@@BlargvsBlorg „It clearly is since any Artist would get fired for failing to do a job. Or do you seriously think people have time to sit around and wait for someone to deliver an unfinished sketch forever? ”
Stop thinking like a capitalist please.
„Did you miss all the scientists back in 2010 who said the climate is past the point of return? ”
Of course not. But we can limit how bad it will be.
„Because governments never run out of money that you're telling them to go borrow forever right? Go look at Venezuela or Cuba when you try and make everything "free". It just creates more poor people. ”
Dude. Using those as examples? And not the more functional examples of the various EU social programs?
Hearing Shad repeatedly talk about how skilled he is just sounds so insecure.
For real. This guy has the most fragile ego of all time. It’s painful to listen to.
I loke Shad, and i like AI art, but hes definitely got a complex here that he can finally beat his little brother at something he was always weak at.
@@justinwhite2725I could never look at my little brother that way
@@justinwhite2725 The funny part is that he still doesn't hold a candle to his brother. In fact, he's burnt that candle at the wrong end and made it useless.
@@andrevaughn6980 right? Both my sister and I are artists, but she is way better than I am. And she's 11 years younger lol. How can someone look at a younger sibling who is obviously talented and not be proud AF?
I mess with settings to find my perfect temprature with air conditioner, but I'm not desperate enough to call myself an engineer, or an air conditioning skill expert. It's like putting your elementary school on your resume.
"My AI generated images have a particular look to them" ...bruh
That particular look being 'looks like it was made by an AI'
Yeah because all he does is put his wives face on Supergirl.
The funniest part is his own original drawings have more personality to them than the AI trash. Maybe not the most refined style, but clearly something that could be very distinct and interesting if he were willing to put real work into it.
This one really got to me... to me, this sounds like... he can remember which ai-generated images were the ones he prompted, so they seem different to him in his own mind
@@Mothpunkyeah I actually liked the stylistic direction he was going in his drawing. It’s just his ego is too fragile.
It's weird how Shad's decided to put so much time and ego into a creative field that he doesn't actually enjoy.
It's that jealousy he has toward his brother. He wants to be better than Jazza but doesn't want to do the work to actually achieve the skill to do so. He's a typical narcissistic person with a fragile ego who sees other's success/skills as a threat.
@@Vercanya Which is weird since he's already a novelist. They both have their respective talents. He's the writer and Jazza is the artist. They could team up and publish a graphic novel if they want.
@@techwizpc4484 hes... A terrible novelist. But i guess he is one
@@ferrariofantioch2865 I wouldn't call him a novelist when his book is a power fantasy dumpsterfire, he only published one and that was before the AIpocaypse. I already see him using ChatShitPT to make the next book for him, and then the next one and the next one.
@@techwizpc4484 Because no one reads anymore. Looking at art doesn't require effort. He has a skill that no one appreciates.
'' My artistry is actually at a professional level '' Any man who must say, "I am the King", is no true king
I had that classic Tywin Lannister quote in my head too 😆
i love how these guys get offended if you critique the thing that the computer made
If thats the professional level then I need to change careers!
@@spacekitt.ngrabted some of the regular artists also break down when you critique some doodle they made so nothing new in art world.
you can say that to any "artist" whether they use AI or not.
"My Al generated images have a particular
look to them" you mean the one all ai images have? yes, very “particular”
He mostly pastes his wife’s face on all the female characters. I think he posts his face on the male characters.
shad boils down to, older brother that is painfully insecure that his younger brother is more popular and more skilled than him at art
less, even, it's literally everything with everyone. he's just generally insecure because he knows most people have at least one area they excel in and he doesn't
Its amusing how some people are incapable of accepting that there are different opinions. It shows their weakness in that area, when they immediately resort to insults or "psychological" explanations for their opinion. Dont make it so easy on yourself, my friend.
@@billcarson818 you realize what OP said and different opinions aren't mutually exclusive?
@@Chinothebad I dont have that feeling. If he rather comes with blind accusations rather than addressing his opinion. :)
@@billcarson818 sure except OP's claim and accepting different opinions aren't mutually exclusive still. Especially if Shad's metric in viewers compared to his brother had faced a dip in numbers on both here and other sites like Patreon.
I was a big fan of shad for a while, like more than 5 years, but "Training an AI to put my wife's face on fetishistic AI art so its not that sinful" isn't in the list of moves I thought he'd go with. It was so weird to see him prompt/coherce jazza into telling him he has the skills of a pro artist, and I just don't know what to think of it all.
I was too, for a long ass time too. Some comments about "woke stuff" put me off sometimes, but I moved past it. After seeing him do a collab with a borderline alt right history youtuber about egyptian history (far from his area of research btw), I dipped. Seeing this, I am very thankful I did.
Oh btw, I was researching for a little bit about Shad and I just saw that the youtuber Shad collabed I was talking about was fucking SARGON OF AKKAD, a dude who was banned from YT by his ultra right wing """hot takes""".
You're not alone there. Used to love his videos. He'd make the occasional social statement that I didn't really align with but I ignored it because I wanted to be reasonable and not condemn a creator I otherwise liked just because we had differing political views. But the more he talked the more close-minded he started sounding, and now he's shilling unethical tools that are harmful to real artists all while putting himself on a pedestal and lashing out at anyone who disagrees.
Also he wouldn't stop complaining about his "dying channel" and it got annoying
@@Evocatari You can't purposefully limit the amount of people who can enjoy your channel by pushing forth divisive topics like politics and AI use, then complain about your subscriber base getting lowered. It's like putting a filter on your channel to only allow a certain type of person to enjoy your content. The more polarizing you are, the less people who were there before that polarization will remain. If he can't see that, it's his problem, not everyone else's. It's time he realizes that.
@@Evocatari also, whenever he would reference anything outside the west he'd be like: "RUSSHA... AND CHINER." And smuggly stare at the camera.
The most uncomfortable thing about it is watching Shad play-up his elite artistic eye and deep artistic expression. I've seriously never heard any art hobbyist, professional, nor teacher/professor say anything like that.
Cringe
That's the craziest part to me. I have never heard someone brag so openly about their supposed skill level.
The fact that he seems to overestimate his own skill significantly doesn't help
Its egotistical narcisism and its no shock coming from shad.
It’s the same mentality as modern art artist. Describe the art instead of having the art describe itself.
@@MaMastoastNever heard Leonardo da Vinci flex that hard before despite his great Artistic and Scientific knowledge
My biggest problem is that if everything he does is intentional and thought out, why does it take so many repeated instances to get what he wants? If the process is as technical as Shad is portraying it to be, why does the vast majority of “art” he creates get completely scrapped?
17:23 "oh good hes going to fix her melon head."
Shad: "Her shoulders are way too wide."
"Fuck"
"I can draw feet" ~montage of Liefeld-ian proportions~
@@leekalbaI understood that reference.
FRRRRRR. Honestly I didn’t even think her shoulders were a problem.
Making the shoulders more narrow, makes the anime head situation worse lol.
Her arms also bend in weird places and i’m pretty sure her right knee is bigger than her left one.
Her nose also looks way too large but I HAVE seen people with similar noses, just not this ethnicity.
The other day, I ordered a Pizza with a custom list of toppings and extra cheese crust.
I am a chef and delivery services are one of my kitchen tools 😎
@@BlargvsBlorg Blender is also free, but skill don't come with it, and I have more fun with it than letting my computer have fun with Unstable Diffusion.
@@BlargvsBlorg I rather suffer a stroke than be forced to use Unstable Shitfussion.
i use both and i probably have more fun. see my comment up above, im just trying to inject some nuance here.@@dragondelsur5156
Damn. Order me one too next time. I wanna try your pizza.
“And for those who say that doesn’t make me a chef, after the pizza I made via the ordering menu chef tool arrived, I opened the box and rearranged the pepperonis, and that takes real chef skills. At a professional level.”
Shadversity's older art has a unique late 90's/early 2000's vibe that has charm to it. His AI non-sense has no personality
When he said "it's proffesional level" I was just thinking about old video games like beyond good and evil, and cartoons like huntik and how yeah, his art fits perfectly. Jak and dakstar is another one. It's profoundly of its time and I hate to call a style outdated but it's certainly dated atleast. I like that style though.
I feel like he needs to just be okay with where he is. He’s not terrible. He just needs more practice and fine tuning. He could come up with a unique cartoon style.
Honestly he's better at drawing people than I am. I've thrown my lot in with water colour and printing and focus on animals and plants. Can't draw people to save my life. His early art is really charming, has that retro early 2000s vibe to it like a punkish Winx club. If he hadn't gone down the AI pipeline I could have really seen him growing a fanbase and making some amazing work. But that's probably all gone now, artists hate him and he's killed his personal style. It's sad tbh
His older art really had the feel of early digital fantasy art on the Internet, that was part anime and part western.
Cos its not “his”, it’s just stolen and put together art
9:00 I think that the AI took the “is that a bird, is that a plane?” quote a bit too seriously. What the hell is that thing in the sky
The sad irony, for as "bad' as Shad's original art is, I find it infinitely more enjoyable to look at than his AI stuff. Despite the skill-level of it, it's got character and expresses what kind of person he is and what his interests are.
he was a year or two away from making very decent character art, but then he forever gave away his right to call himself an artist.
Yeah he actually has a unique style he could develop and call his own but he’s throwing it away for the quick and easy path, it’s sad
That’s the real bummer of it.
I looked at his art and there’s REAL potential there.
BUT getting to where he wanted to be takes a toll which he evidently didn’t want to pay, and so he was willing to sacrifice his artistic voice on the altar of perfectionism.
And I think the dunking on the flaws in his old work actually is the kind of thing that pushed him to that.
I almost feel sorry for the guy.
Almost.
It has potential it gives 2000er action cartoon vibes which is dope
His line art was not bad. He just needed to learn how to color. But I think he was aiming for more a more realistic style from what he made using AI.
I feel so bad for jazza tbh. He tried to start a statement with "i love you but" and was immediately interrupted by his own brother denying it as if it was some kind of personal attack
Narcissistic people will do that. They don't want to hear other's criticism, they only accept praise.
Shad is that type of chad guy in the gym we seen trying to egolift and proud of executing shit
@@tiagopescealso there’s a wierd Mormon christian element that’s just nicely below the surface
What video is this? Cuz I think as an AI artist, deep down Jazza must recognise that a soulless machine regurgitating artworks goes against the spirit of art
he does, but probably not wanting to make a scene against his own brother in a public event
Cant believe this is how i learn that shadiversity is jazzas evil twin
Literally same (also, this would be an interesting concept for a superhero story. A superhero whose power is to make things come alive with his drawings learns his brother, who doesnt wanna devote his life to learning how to draw, has dabbled with dark powers (AI) and now our original artist superhero has to fight through hordes of uncanny valley images)
@@Eli-wl8es Isn't this just a better version of: "Girl, we been knowing how to draw." "BEAT BOXING PUPY!" "Huh?" dadado dabada da doo doo (my impression of beat boxing puppy)! The movie?
He's more like a failed prototype since he's the older brother. Man lives in the shadow of his much better brother
@@markbunst5961we live in planet earth, not planet art
Right? It's literally like some kind of movie twist
By Shad's logic, a jet fighter pilot is faster than Usain Bolt.
"Im a perfectionist" proceeds to leave in 3 suns a messed up thumb and a big head. Not to mention how the whole thing feels uncanny
maybe he wanted the 3 suns in his FANTASY WORLD? Mine has two moons and purple rain. Why not 3 suns?
Cope harder @@AzguardMike
Because not only is the head too big, eye line is wrong. With original AI art, the buildings gave it grounding, so you were looking up at Supergirl while she is looking down at you. Without the skyscraper you are both hovering in the sky but you are slightly lower than her.
The nails are also on the wrong side of the other fingers.
@@AzguardMike What is the orientation in space of those 3 stars and planet? Because when I think about it it is hard to do something like this
Shad talking about how he "really feels like he's putting brush to canvas" while just,, directing vaguely to the ai reminds me of how industry executives must feel when they boss the art team around. "Look at this team that I am leading. They surely could not have done this without me, really, I'm the TRUE artist!" when actually they're just parasites who squash creativity.
Like the studio supervisors who gets invited to corridor crew?
Yeah pretty much, the Ai and shad wouldn't've made the image in by their own... i'm glad you went to that conclusion... its almost as if a brush without being led by a painter would'nt do anything.... imagine that! All that you have the problem is shad not spending 2 years learning a skill and instead leveraging and multiplying his skillset with Ai.
@@agent1798 My guy if you don't want to learn to draw I've got good news for you: you don't need to be GOOD at drawing to make good content. Like, look at Go Nagai's art style in Devilman, tell me that's great drawings and I'll laugh in your face, and yet he still made a compelling thing.
Or Cyborg 009.
Or if you want to get into other media: I Wanna Be The Guy, the first Scream movie, Calvin and Hobbes. None of those are exactly acclaimed for their graphics/art/costumes/choreography, they're good because they appeal to the people they're going for. No one needs to be a Don Bluth here.
But what Shadiversity is doing is throwing a thousand monkeys at a typewriter and claiming he's as much of a writer as Shakespeare.
That analogy is only accurate from the interaction you have with current AI art programs but the AI itself won't create anything by itself.
Great analogy
There's something incredibly disturbing about watching a man put his wife's face onto AI generated models and constantly adjust anatomical proportions while also completing ignoring anatomical realism such as fingers, proportions, lighting, head-to-body ratio, etc. Those shoulders weren't too wide... that wasn't the problem.
If I'm not mistaken I think he also made her a lot skinnier than she looks in real life which is just very disturbing to me
"I'm a perfectionist."
Wow that's not very body positivity of you Shad.
the fact her head got even bigger and more out of proportion than his "art" 6 months ago is hilarious, there is zero artistry in what he is doing at all lmao
It really gives off this idea that Shad thinks "women can't have broad shoulders" even though it is perfectly normal for women to have broad shoulders, he just can't handle women not fitting his very specific fantasy of what he believes they should look like.
Star trek voyager had a fun episode about this. Character realized complete control is messed up.
The way her arms are bending upsets me. For someone who has an ‘eye for anatomy’, he sure didn’t seem to notice that her biceps aren’t moving with the rest of her arm.
This is like a client telling the artist over and over what they want and then praising themselves for the final result
So... Steve Jobs? 😂
@@EximiusDux Lig.... No! I must hold myslef back.
"I worry about 1 artist being asked to do the work of 10." You nailed it with that one. Literally every single tool that's come out since I started my first real art job out of college has made me more productive, and the only real difference to my quality of life is that I have much fewer co-workers now than I did years ago. None of us people down in the trenches ever seem to benefit from our increased productivity.
The only entities profiting or gaining something from more productivity are corps and maybe the self-employeed. Even then, work-life balance is abysmal when people aren't paid a livable wage for the work, continually pumping out products back-to-back until burnout hits.
This is so, so important and a point I don't see echoed as much. It affects artists, but also every single worker out there. If a tool doesn't improve the worker's conditions, it is a tool of oppression, not a tool of liberation. Sure, we can work faster than ever, produce more than ever..., yet our present and future keeps getting grimmer.
Yeah… that’s capitalism. It’s happened to every other job in existence and now it’s coming for artists. 😢
Real art that has heart and meaning will always be around just like craft beer or handmade guitars, but industrialization of art is definitely here to convert the artists that were previously employed in marketing departments and concept art houses.
Until we overthrow the system that provides the incentive to dehumanize the world in support of “growth”, it will come for everyone in a repeating and perpetual ouroboros.
learn to mine coal
@crypticmortality8068 Nonsense. The cheaper and easier it is to make movies the more who can afford to do it.
The lower the upfront investment on a project, the greater risk a studio is willing to take.
I find it hilarious that Shad’s brother is one of the most successful artists on the platform… like… imagine your sibling is a 5 star chef and you think you are just as talented as them because you managed to order dominoes…
@@BlargvsBlorg that's pretty hyperbolic, making good looking pictures require understanding of art even if your are using AI
@@BlargvsBlorghire him to do what? 😂 proofread his prompts to correct his spelling and get rid of doubles?
@@BlargvsBlorghis brother is an artist that actually loves doing what he does, so I doubt he'll throw it all away for AI "Art"
@@BlargvsBlorg atleast it takes genuine effort using a camera to capture a perfect picture or using electricity to power his computer so he can boot up photoshop to enhance his drawings and photos instead of typing words on a screen (of which are probably copied and pasted as the case with most of these guys like shad) to play a luck game, just to mildly edit it and make it look worse than it already did.
@@BlargvsBlorg I'm talking from an artistic view, not the everyday 'novelty' thing like selfies, which still takes more effort than AI so I don't get your point. Your blatantly using things that has nothing to do with art as a counter to art.
"Hello waiter, I would like the bacon japaleno bison burger with the spicy mayo and remoulade. A side of picked okra and steak fries with house seasoning. Medium-rare with a toasted brioche bun."
"Mmmm that was delicious. What a great meal I made for myself. I am an amazing cook"
I love how he thinks of himself as an anatomy genius and yet cant see how fucking big her head is compared to the rest of her body, and the funniest part is that this type of mistake is something that is common amongst COMPLETE BEGINNERS who normally learn to draw the face before learning proportions and anatomy correctly. I've done those same mistakes multiple times in the past but by actually learning how to draw and studying the subject I eventually learned how to at least make the proportions dont look off putting
I think everyone and his mum could tell that the head was over sized.
Yeah... I paused on some of his other drawings, because he specifically mentions anatomy, not proportions perse, and lo and behold, you can spot many anatomycal errors, the most obvious for me is the sartorious not crossing the joint, which is silly as it is the most fun aspect of the muscle... So.. where was that knowledge?
"bad anatomy" wouldn't be a problem if he didn't try to go for realism...
@@iAmNothingness i think It would. I bet that any Disney artist know their anatomy to the t
Because I was an absolute rascal of a child and never listened to anyone's advice, I didn't start actually applying the stydy of anatomy to my art until quite late, and by that time I already almost had it just by trial and error. What's weird is until you know what you're looking for you don't really see it. I drew a lot of stuff in my childhood years and very early teens that I swear were absolutely awesome when I made them, now I pull them out (I have nearly every piece I've ever made stored in two big boxes) and they look like absolute dogwater. I mean I definitely had talent, but the proportions are so off, it's weird how now I can intuitively tell when something's off, but back then it was a lot different. In short, especially if you're inefficient about it like me (trial and error instead of study) this stuff takes a fair bit of work to get right, and someone who is genuinely experienced will be able to do it with no effort at all.
Knowing my own past doggedness when it comes to ''my process'' I can't help but wonder if Shad suffers from the same sort of inability to just sit down and learn. I think he really wishes he could just intuitively make perfect art, which is why he loves AI so much. He's unwilling to learn, and that makes AI a perfect tool for him as someone with *some* experience and clearly some talent but not much of either. I'm glad I had to learn to draw because when I was still struggling with things there were no tools that you could use to really pretty up and mask things. Hell when I moved to digital it was with an essentially useless tablet and no money for any kind of good software, or knowledge of actually good software that would have been free. I started drawing with a mouse, and I still do that actually, it was a painful process to go from being near professional level on paper, to absolutely sucking at digital art, but I'm so glad I went through the trouble of learning, because learning is fun, and actually I'd argue it's a big part of what makes art fun, when you *actually learn* things, you actually get to brag about what you've learned, something AI ''artists'' will never get to experience.
Its half funny, half sad to see Jazza die a little bit inside when he says Shad is a skilled artist.
Why is he even flattering it?
@@darkzeroprojects4245it's his brother. He's just trying to be nice
@@darkzeroprojects4245 Because the only way to shut Shad up is if you give him false praise.
Otherwise he will start an actual argument live...
@@stevenstokes6306
Brother or not, I wouldn't encourage this.
@@Tasorius
He'd never shut up regardless.
And if he gives him problems, just block em off.
Besides I doubt this would damage his life enough unless otherwise.
What breaks my heart with these AI illustrations are always the faces.
The examples you show at the beginning demonstrates it perfectly: all these hand-painted female character have unique faces. They might look a bit weird, but they look like unique people.
The AI art ALWAYS ends up gravitating towards the ONE „female comic face“. The most generic „pretty young woman“ face. And the AI-„artists“ don‘t even realize it.
Because they don‘t do „art“. They didn‘t paint the face in a unique way the first time because they wanted to have a unique face, it just „happened“, and then the AI „art“ erases that without the „artist“ even realizing what has gotten lost in the process.
@@BlargvsBlorgthis is just… wrong. A skilled artist is completely unmatched by (current) ai. Unfortunately ai is incredibly cheap so it’s still a threat to creatives
@@BlargvsBlorg you aren’t a skilled artist
@@BlargvsBlorg no, yet you go on and on about what a skilled artist would do, which is annoying as hell because you don’t have the authority to say so.
It generates towards a generic face because most people don't know how to describe facial features properly. Not really much different than photoshop; you can be lazy as shit and make things that are easily identifiable hack jobs, or you can learn and refine how to use the advanced features.
I'll expand on that; if you get mugged and have to describe to a sketch artist what the mugger looked like and you just say 'a man', that artist is simply going to revert to the most comfortable stereotype they know. But if you can properly describe things like jowls or nose types or states of emotion, you'll get much closer to the truth.
Whether you like AI or not, that's how it works and I'm fucken sick of watching people talk about it like it's just a one-button waifu generator. Clearly none of these idiots are aware of what controlnet is, or a lora, or how to describe lens types or film grain to get a specific image quality. All they see is the cynical commercial applications and hornyposters.
@@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control Because that's what's being used for, I couldn't care less about all this shit as long as this thing exists and is a threat to true artist's livelihoods.
Finding out this guy was Jazza’s brother made me instantly doubley invested in this video omg the lore
Wait, Shad is Jazza's brother?
Jazza did an ad a while back for an ai program literally praising and lauding the pictures he made with it over ones he paid for on Fiverr. So I wouldn't be surprised
Sometimes, I go to Subway and order a sandwich, but I precisely ask for specific ingredients. I am a cook!!
You could do much better than that. As a real cook with a deep culinary vision, I'll typically spend at least 2 hours on my sandwich by giving it back and having them replace ingredients, typically at least a dozen times until I achieve the perfection I knew I could create
@@cocoaherethe subway employees' grimaces are how you know you're a real professional cook with a vision too complex for simple minds to comprehend
@@indridcold9593isn't it a thing for professionals to start their work simple and comprehensible and build on that?
But does this change tha fact that it is food?
No because you didn’t put the tomatoes on the sammich yourself.
I get it now.
AI "artists" are the people that think commissioned art costs too much and takes too long, so they get a cheap robot to make their commission for them instantaneously and then claim the art as their own because its not like the robot can legally caim it.
Honestly commission is expensive
Not saying it's not worth the price
Just that I can't afford it unfortunately
One day, I hope I can pay an actual artist to make the work of my dream
Until then, I just got keep working to get there
@ctchimchar5258 smaller artists are your freinds there, lots of smaller artists have far lower prices for art thats often still very good, my profile picture is art i comissioned off my freind for like 20$
@@ctchimchar5258this is kind of the point. art is a luxury; there are many artists around the world who have various prices, ive met some who are very cheap and ive tipped them so what they get matches what i'd pay an "american" artist
Its always bothered me that people will say 'cheap robot'. Mainly because it wasn't cheap , and the 'artist' inside that robot is an unwitting thief.
If you're a professional artist and not using AI to make your commissioned art, you're probably spending too long on it/overcharging for it.
Use the AI and make some $$
Call it out! I’m an architect and clients constantly claim they “renovated their own house”, or even “designed my own office”. client feedback is not the client doing my work, it is them adding to my work. That the process feels collaborative and in the client’s control is a sign that you have a great artist not that you dont need your artist.
If I ever want to build a house I'm gonna need architect otherwise it's gonna look like some kid's first house in SIMS
Yeah it always pisses me off when people go “Oh I built this!” like no buddy you hired people to build it. You got it built… by hiring builders. Also when people have products for sale and claim they designed it, when they aren’t designers and definitely hired a designer.
Who needs architects when you can just AI generate your house plan and 3D print the materials? ez
in my 3rd year of architecture and wondering how much time will I work before I get replaced by some lazy Ai
@@marinculic976 I think architecture is safe. People can pretend that a bad picture is good, but they'll have a hard time arguing that a building was well designed when it collapses under its own weight before construction was even finished, assuming the nonsensical blueprints weren't immediately tossed in the trash as soon as they crossed the desk of someone in the planning department.
The funniest thing to me is that he takes AI slop of Supergirl in front of a building and turns it into AI slop of Supergirl in front of clouds.
Gotta love how Shad, the guy who complains if the slightest detail of a fantasy work isn't "historically accurate," is putting his female characters in pleated mini skirts with thigh high leg armor.
I know, right?
Even his other '''works''' are, like, the most generic fantasy crap ever, what with the 'boobplates' on the women's armor and the uncovered parts.
He gives the vibes of someone who picks and chooses “historical accuracy” and “it’s just fantasy” depending on what’s convenient for him
As a Zelda fan boy, I'm glad I never watched his Master Sword video...
@janehates or even acknowledge that he isn't the artist. If anyone is the artist it's the AI and the people who's work it's trained on. Not the prompter.
You forget, he made a whole video defending the historical accuracy of boobplate armor. Man is willing to fight for shit that don't make sense just because it feels good for him.
21:15 Please don't call them "Prompt engineers". They aren't engineers. I studied for years and got a masters degree in informatics engineering. I am an engineer. He's just a prompt maker, at the very best.
Ong, calling these people “engineers” is just as wrong as calling them artists. They’re just dudes typing a bunch of random words until a robot makes what they want. God I hate AI
More like prompt scribbler, looking at that text.
Anyone who is obsessed with their "engineer" title probably isn't an engineer. I've never heard of anyone so self entitled for getting an engineering degree.
@@DoggyP00What dude? Engineers are responsible for building and maintaining their nation. Pride is justifiable warranted.
@@anuragpradhan7500 Pride is fine. Being an in sufferable prick is not.
What saddens me the most is that his (non-ai) art isnt even *that bad*.
Its very similar to most amateurs, or the backlog of a master. He *could* have been the great artist he sees himself as, if he just had the endurance to stick with it.
Or at worst, he could have been a mediocre artist with soul and passion. But I guess the life by the conveyor belt is simpler than the life in the kitchen.
His art reminds me of what Jazzas art looked like when he showed his progress from beginner to professional. You can tell both brothers had/ have a passion for art and were sharing it at some point to the point that they developed similar art styles. But while Jazza persevered, Shad seems to have gotten frustrated and semi gave up. It's probably the constant comparison with his brother. I know that feeling. My sister also is a great artist and I used to compare myself to her which made me feel jealous and inferior. But I grew out of it which Shad doesn't seem to have done. He wants to prove he's just as good
or truly at worst: given up on art and do something else. i'm no artist, and i doubt i ever will as i just don't have in interest in growing that skill presently. i can put a ttrpg battlemap together with assets i'm allowed to use, i'm working on a world map that'll have soul, but at least i don't delude myself into thinking i'm some great artist.
and still i think in a fair few ways i've developed more skill then shad. i use a program to put my maps together an assets someone else made, but i've learned how to make maps that look good and play fun. take away my program and i can use another, it'll just take time to get good with it's toolset, take away all my tools and i'll have to draw by hand and it won't look great at all, but it'll be mechanically fun still. and i'm just experienced with battlemaps and i piece of abandonware. at least my stuff is truly legal (looked it up before i posted any of it online)
The AI artists who want to "democratize art" just don't want to put in the actual work, they just want to reap the benefits. They want to be rockstars without spending 2+ hours a day practicing guitar, without dragging gear to and from venues, without learning how to write songs, and without having to physically put yourself out there and show the lifetime of dedication to your craft. If you(proverbial you) do not enjoy the process of creation, don't create, but don't also pretend that you're actually creating something just for the sole purpose of getting the social credit for it you imagine artists are getting. The art of creation matters to us, if it doesn't matter to you then don't pretend you actually understand it or what's valuable about it.
@@gwen9939 >The AI artists who want to "democratize art" just don't want to put in the actual work, they just want to reap the benefits.
And how is that bad? People who want running water in they house are just lazy, ppl that use calculators are just lazy, ppl that use dishwashers are lazy. This is progress making something that used to be hard much easier, and faster to make.
>If you(proverbial you) do not enjoy the process of creation, don't create, but don't also pretend that you're actually creating something just for the sole purpose of getting the social credit for it you imagine artists are getting.
You think art has no utility, and it is just to stroke your ego? Art is part of many other projects, its utility shouldn't be restricted just because you want to live in the past, all sort of professions case to exist or become much more niche due to progress.
@@KraszuPolis You are absolutely correct...
if one assumes standards and intention don't matter, I don't believe I need to explain to you the difference between menial tasks and the creative process, do I?
Fun fact: he actually invented Super Girl... Several generations of DC comics artist just assisted him
This weekend I fell down the rabbit hole of Shad and AI bros, Trying to sell me on AI art. Which has now inspired me to go out and buy a sketchbook, and learn to draw hands better. Cause that's what an actual Artist does.
@@BlargvsBlorgno
congratulations, fellow artist brother!!! best of luck on your journey. your hard work will pay off
@@min-fel Good for you for being a gatekeeper.
I may be a mediocre artist, but I don't just blindly trust AI to do the work for me. I don't just create the work with AI, I analyze the work, compare it with works created by human artists, keep track of the similarities and mistakes, practice shapes, anatomy, perspective and shading to the best of my ability.
Also, I have never monetized AI-generated art, and I never will. To me, AI art is merely a crutch and a tool for inspiration, but I'm aware that observing human art and learning by physically doing it is the only way to improve.
I was doing art by myself for 11 years, even before AI art became popular, and I intend to keep creating things with my own hands, rather than relying on some obscure,, half-baked machine that spews out "art". AI is just another tool in my arsenal, like the Smudge Tool or the Spot Healing Brush.
TL:DR: AI art may not help you to become a "actual" artist, but a passionate and curious artist can still use it to try and improve his skills, at least on some level.
@@BlargvsBlorg"more powerful" wtf are you talking about?
😂😂😂 stop embarrassing yourself
@@Julez60 Keep being delusional. If AI art was so bad artists wouldn't be crying a river. They are scared because their own art isn't that unique or great.
By Shad's logic if I commission an artist they make a great piece out of what I ask of em... I'm the artist and the person putting pen to paper is just my medium...
@@BlargvsBlorgyou completely ignored the comment’s logic
That's what prompters think
No, the person putting pen to paper is the TOOL 😂
Basically, Shad loves Capitalism
Which ... actually makes sense somehow. They are the sith while you are the dark side of the force!!
This dude saying "My artistry is actually at a professional level" while the most amateurish shit is popping up on the screen is the funniest shit I've seen all year.
2005 DeviantArt core
It's funny how Shad's brother is going to such pains trying not to offend Shad, while Shad doesn't care about his brother at all, claiming he's as good as Jazza, who has years of experience as a professional artist.
@@ThejollyFrenchmanJazza should just give him a proper roast and wake him up to reality. Shad didn't get roasted enough for his trash drawings.
@@falco5148 Jazza can't--he's far too empathetic.
@@falco5148their relationship as brothers likely informs a lot of how Jazza interacts with him. Imagine attending a family gathering after you roast the shit out of your brother publicly on the internet.
Shad has spent the last handful of years deliberately destorying his channel it seems.
Time well spent.
I used to like his medieval stuff even if it wasn't the best. Now, with all of the things I've heard that he's been through...
What's really sad is that his own art isn't even that bad. He has a very distinct style in his own works that makes me think of 90's/early 2000's comics and cartoons. The man is so incredibly self conscious about his own skills when he really doesn't need to be, especially for someone who doesn't enjoy art for the sake of it.
I was thinking the same thing! He could definitely work with that style, it gives me the vibes of fantasy mangas and games from the 90s and early 2000s. If he put in the work and got a grasp on the fundamentals, his work could be far more interesting than the AI schlock he's churning out
Look at those muscles. Those are some nice muscles.
Apparently he has an artist brother he's jealous of. Lol
He wrote a fantasy novel (maybe more than one by this point) and he is knowledgeable about swords and things, so it's not like he's lazy. But I do think he shouldn't be taking credit for work that the AI does for him. He can just say, "I choose to spend my limited time becoming a better writer, rather than focusing on art".
@@kit761493:07
It took me two hours to find what to watch on Netflix, that means I directed the movie I'm watching.
"A false equivalence or false equivalency is an informal fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning"
Netflix did not "generate" the movie.
The movie has been made.
Nothing in the movie changed by the 2 hours of searching.
@@AgentH53 its a joke, shad didnt do anything worth celebrating anyways.
@@AgentH53 Point to an actual false equivalence, like comparing genuine art to this AI poser crap, and you'll have a point.
@@AgentH53They knew which themes and motifs worked better in combination with specific actors, they spent hours looking for the perfect combination. This takes real skill only achievable someone with genuine talent in film making, anyone could find the same film by pure chance but it takes skill to make this process flawlessly repeatable in results.
@@AgentH53 A person also does not generate an image. The computer does. So his equivalency is correct in comparing the role of humans in both the process of swifting through a Netflix movie catalogue and prompting a computer to generate an image. In both cases, the system is doing the work, you're just telling it what to do.
I almost burst out laughing when he said he's a perfectionist- sir you are polishing that turd to perfection 😂
He’s basically the guy that puts detail like sprinkles on a shit foundation of a drawing.
“Perfection” just means “Beautiful art station trending pretty image nice art”
He’s so artistically illiterate that his idea of perfect art is just whatever over-rendered high res stuff that gets posted to Art Station on a daily basis. It’s the character art equivalent of taking photographs of sunsets and puppies.
"my ai images have a particular look to them"
Wow that's so crazy, my AI images have the same look
Dang, poor Jazza. His brother is literally the antithesis of everything Jazza is.
Ikr i feel bad for Jazza
I mean maybe on a personal level, but Jazza (thank God) isn't exactly making the counter-argument for AI-art either and has a much more nuanced take on what it does.
What? Never thought they were brothers
It's so cringe-inducing hearing Shad just trying to browbeat him into accepting the "I am a professional level artist" line.
He's one of those obnoxious guys who thinks that just talking over you until you give up makes them right.
He could not be more insecure that the "art" he worked on was never on par with his brother. He got to the shitty level he got to and gave up. Didn’t want to work any harder to get past his ceiling and now he’s jerking himself off because he found a tool that doesn’t require him to put in any actual work to improve as an artist and even come close to his brother who he forces to play to his fantasies about being a "professional artists." It’s pathetic as hell.
I genuinely laughed out loud when he blurred the leg armor so the AI would show more thigh
I distrust Shad’s opinion so much now that I’m starting to believe that nunchucks are an effective self defense weapon
They... actually are. Well, maybe not self defense, but for agression, yes. They were used by street gangs. A few people have made great videos debunking Shad on this subject as well.
@@GamePlayMetal I just couldn't take it anymore with him focusing on the lowest common denominator opinion and then making a multi part 30 min ep series rambling in his backyard with his evidence being whatever thoughts pop up into his head at that exact moment. He was entirely wrong about the power output where a video showed nunchucks making 90% of the hit force as a stick and then goes "Yes but here's another idea I just came up with that I'm going to waste 30 minutes of your life ranting about". The one example he showed of the security footage of the guy attempting to use nunchucks against multiple robbers running at him would have still gotten beat up if he had a stupid stick. Rant over. I wanna find those videos responding to him now
@@ravensharpless I think this one is pretty good, if you can get past the asmr voice, but the guy knows his subject very well ua-cam.com/video/UpXxw1dnhkU/v-deo.html
@@ravensharpless He seriously thought that an untrained schlub flailing nunchucks and sticks around was a valid was to test how they compare as weapons.
Ok but his logic behind Sticks > nunchucks makes perfect sense, you can't get as much leverage or proper FORCE into a nunchuck as you can a stick
Saying the AI did 95% of the work is too much credit to Shad, or even the AI, for that matter. The artists' stollen work is doing 90% percent of the work, the model is doing another 9% regurgitating that artwork in some bastardized amalgamation, and Shad's done maybe 1% by typing some words and performing bad photoshop.
Its better to be a terrible artist than an AI prompter that deludes himself
@@tomwalker8944you sound like the kind of guy who goes into their neighbors yard to dig up grubs for a midnight snack
@@tomwalker8944find a purpose sore loser
@@BlargvsBlorg thinking that AI artists will be able to find jobs is the biggest cope here. There is nothing in the AI field that would take too long for an actual artist to master, you think people who spend years to learn to render accurate anatomy in realistic perspective while composing stunning pictures from scratch would be unable to figure out how to use ControlNet if they had to?
There is only two scenarios here - either the technology hits a plateau after automating a number of technical artistic tasks making the field even more competitive for the actual artists that would be assisted by the AI, or it will eventually get so good that there will literally be no jobs in the art industry, because automating the "prompting" part is just a matter of time.
@@BlargvsBlorg again, there is next to nothing to be "skilled at" when it comes to AI art, so calling an actual artist that is able to execute actual artistic skills an "AI artist" just for being able to use AI in their workflow is silly in the first place.
By that logic every single artist is just a month of software learning away from becoming an "AI artist". That's why I'm saying that people who are getting into art through AI aren't the ones that are gonna get any jobs, because it's a useless grift, no company is gonna offer you a good paycheck for the skill of generating derivative work that anyone can learn in a matter of days.
Also traditional artists aren't going to be affected by this, it's obviously just about the digital art.
@@BlargvsBlorg I don't really care what "challenge" you're talking about because there is no way it would hold any statistical value to talk about the %, but Shad's "work" here just looks like another bland AI image with a stiff pose, broken perspective, bad proportions and mindless lighting and composition, also just generally awful taste. Him going all "tips fedora" when scaling the character's shoulders to make her giant head look even bigger is a great example of "AI artists" either not knowing theory or not having it practiced, because the original issue was with the wonky perspective. If you genuinely think it looks impressive, then this not a discussion for a YT comments dispute, too much to unpack.
Also you have no idea what people value in traditional art if you think they'd be interested in a robot's work. Manufacturing only made handmade stuff more valuable.
Its funny because when he mentions his distinguishable ai art all i can think about is how every AI image tends to do that specific sunset lighting. Doesnt matter what it is. Supergirl? That Hobbit-movie lighting. Viking? Hobbit-movie lighting. Medieval cottage? Hobbit-movie lighting. Those cozy libraries? THAT DANG LIGHTING again.
I get it, warm lighting makes things cozy, the colours more vibrant... But can you at least pick a slightly different saturation? Just once?
I mean if you're prompting, you can probably ask for a different saturation, or at the end, take the image out and change its saturation in photo shop.
@@principal_optimism but they don't, and yet they claim to "put in a lot of effort" while not even caring to adjust the light source and overall saturation/tone lol
@@annierminx each to their own. What's wrong with having two lighting sources?
Plenty of photographers will use multiple light sources.
@@principal_optimism When photographers use multiple lighting sources, it's usually done in a way that minimizes visual confusion between the light sources, whether it's with different coloration, different intensity (as with highlighting & secondary lighting), or in this case, placement.
AI can't replicate these factors exactly because the machine doesn't have an intent, only patterns that it decides to fit together in whatever way _seems_ correct to it. It can't interpret the full picture because all it knows are the details it was trained to recognize, so most models quite literally can't account for this.
It's also always that ugly Michael Bay/Zack Snyder "teal and orange" look with an unnaturally-green looking sky
I actually prefer shad's original drawings over the AI "enhanced" versions. They have an actual style to them and it reminds me of old school character art. He'd probably have an audience with a style like that.
No kidding. His actual drawings are fine. They're not "the greatest ever" but he's at the level where people can generally sell their stuff.
Nah, his actual art is basically higher level high school art. Any mentor/teacher would send him life drawing to practice the fundamentals first. It’s basically potential at 15, or a stubbornness at whatever sector of the middle age bracket he resides in. For somebody that draws, this AI stuff is ugly, because it’s missing the je ne sais qua, for regular people eating up generic content shoved out of the content factory this is cool. It’s shiny, plenty of light source and everything else is good enough to ignore a weird thumb.
@@sloppynyuszi Eh, you might not like it, but his art is at the level where he could sell it if he dedicated the time to trying, even if improvement wasn't what he was going for. The uneducated masses aren't art aficionados, which is why they don't see an issue with this AI trash. I'm just saying that if it's between "early college comic art," and "computer generated wish fullfillment," I know which one I'd encourage any artist to stick with.
@@MewGirlZ art is subjective, but his art isn’t strong. I’m not sure what circles this would sell, but I see this kinda stuff in artist alleys in conventions where the artist is just sitting there with everyone walking past, they sell 2-3 things then complain the industry sucks or something.
I hate these prompt generated images as much as the next person who appreciates images drawn by a human, and I don’t mind the kind of art that this dude does if the context is, he likes drawing for fun. If you like this drawing, more power to you, art is subjective.
My problem with the art is, that’s neither style or skill. All the knowledge of form and composition is just a starting position that has no follow through.
Not everyone has to draw or be creative ;)
@@sloppynyuszi Ah I see. It's not about the drawing it's about the attitude. Gotcha.
Trying to be as charitable as I can: It sounds like he just wants to direct an art project and hire others to do what he's instructing, but is so insecure about being unable to create on his own that he only finds solace in AI.
EDIT: You literally said this right after when I paused to make this comment oops lol.
Anyways, this dude needs therapy.
This is prime Dunning-Kruger... FIY, any artist who hypes himself like this most likely isn't on a high level (and this is confirmed in this case when I look at his art).
High level artists often suffer from the opposite problem, impostor syndrome.
Let's not call AI users artists. They're far from it. Just call them failures or familial disappointments.
@@toozombie6275 Just like artists who use synth in music. Oh wait, they've been not only using synth but also AI in music for at least a decade now.
@@alienrenders Usually synths are just used as computer generated instruments. Analogous to drawing on an iPad rather than paper. But even including those generating arpeggios or randomized loops guided by inputs, they still require direct interface throughout the process, both in terms of notes/tempo and overall structure of a piece--especially considering it almost never consists of a single synth putting a single string of notes. The composition, however much (hand guided) automation the tools may have, is still being assembled and built from its individual parts by the artist.
Prompting is a request for an end product fulfilled by an outside source, and that's it. Prompting is analogous to, and in fact functionally indistinguishable from, a commission. Now the commission may be picky and detailed, and in this case it may be written in youtube-style tags rather than coherent sentences, but in the end the only real difference is you're feeding it into a photbashing algorithm rather than a fiverr account. You're putting in a custom order at a restaurant and calling yourself a chef. This is not elitism or gatekeeping or narrow-mindedness. It's the rejection of a desperate, obvious false equivalence. Its genuinely insane to me that this has to be explained to full grown adults.
It's so depressing that while the corporations bleeding our entire species dry is phasing out actual expression of actual humans for lorem ipsum slop cobbled together by glorified chat bots and photo filters from an anonymous pool of actual art, a bunch of delusional, bootlicking, no-internal-monologue-having, creatively and intellectually bankrupt tools will praise it as some populist victory equivalent to the invention of the printing press. They won't even let society grieve the literal death of popular/commercial art in peace.
I am not sure if it is just me as someone who has drawn for years I have come to the realization that I suck. I will probably never improve. I am actually impressed at how bad I am. I am sure there is a group of artists who are self-aware of how bad they are and know they won't improve much. To put it simply, we know we are not geniuses but we are smart enough to know how dumb we really are.
@@alienrendersLip syncing exposes have ruined careers.
Nice one AI bro.
I love how you called out her head for being so big after he said that bit about having an eye for anatomy. All I could think of as he was saying "this image is starting to look good" was how ridiculous her big head made her look.
Personally, I feel he drained the original image of anything actually interesting - Supergirl in plate armor flying through the city is so much more interesting than a generic static shot of Supergirl in her generic costume in the clouds. I haven't sketched in a long while, but it's kind of making me really want to sit down and sketch medieval-themed Supergirl lost in a cyberpunk cityscape.
Yeah, that's the real kicker. All of his alterations feel like they took away from the artistry of the AI. Which is WILD.
Yeah like taking out the building really detracted from the image overall. In the og image it was more dynamic to imply she was landing instead of just floating in the air and the placement of the building also gave her a decent framing. But instead of enhancing those cool aspects he just took them away.
Automatic generation (its not ai lets be honest) is absolutely a technology with potential. I literally have artist friends who'd have given them art to use for training data. The problem is that no one who advocates for it the most cares about that potential. Automatic generation is very useful for getting an idea. One of the biggest hurdles with commissions is the artist wants some kind of visual to work from. Even a stick figure. But most people don't want to do that because they'll feel stupid for it being so bad. This could bridge that gap. But no the people looking for an infinite money glitch insist they'll replace artists. Never considering that if it's that easy. Why would a company need you. When they can just pay the artists they already have to use the generation tools and then fix the generation tools flaws. Which this prompt artist cannot do
It is actually fascinating to watch him specifically add armour in the prompt but remove the actual armoured pauldron from the image as well as changing the somewhat interesting position of her landing with a hand on the building to the side by removing both the building to the side and the building she was landing on.
The thing that stands out to me is “I don’t like to draw, I like what I draw”, which feels like a coded way of saying “I’d rather get the attention of doing art than actually doing art”.
Eh, like you hear a lot of burn out from commission artists where they stop taking commissions because they don't want to draw but they are still proud of the art they put out. Still absolutely not what that guys saying or implying and you are totally right.
Tbh, out of context, I can understand that process of thought. You want to create fantastic images and spill your creativity out on the canvas, but the drawing process itself can be extremely frustrating. Especially when you're a beginner. I struggle with that a lot. BUUUUUUUUUUUT that doesn't mean I'm gonna take AI shortcuts. If a picture is made by an artificial intelligence then the best you can be is an artificial artist.
@kaksspl it can be but also rewarding if willing to take the dedication and timing...
The fact that people only want the fast results make me question if they even want more than slop they complain about sometimes
No, I completely agree with that. While I can draw to a decent standard, I really don't enjoy the process, so I just commission artists instead and myself focus on writing.
@aristedes9449
Least you're willing to.
Lot just now use it to not do that.
I can agree we artists can get annoying to work with or some tend to be high pricing which even I disliked doing when tried to do commms.
But given how some charge for things even stuff imo don't warrant the prices they push, I expect it.
And yet these ai users want to charge or patron their generated slop using data trained from work of others.
And yet one calls artists parasites??
And also, I was just sceptical about AI at first, but then - back when HaveIbeentrained still worked - I found AI had not just stolen 30 out of my artwork that I tried (and that was a tiny sample as I'm extremely productive), it stole my loving tribute to my beloved cat who has passed away. It was just a silly doodle when I made it, but that cat, and every drawing I made of her, meant the world to me, and it was fed into a soulless slop machine. Aside from all the other issues with AI, that was just deeply hurtful. My Lucymia deserves better. Her memory deserves better. People's loved ones are being turned into data stew for these lazy losers.
God The way Shad talks to Jazza in the clip provided is giving massive golden child complaining to family scapegoat/ or peace keeper vibes. It looks like, "I can do no wrong and have asked you for feedback I’m wholly incapable of hearing because my ego is bigger than my capacity to Handle criticism necessary to improve."
You give me mentally ill vibes.
@@DoggyP00???????
@@Rashkbb This might not be the intent, but the person you just replied to did a sort of mirror. OP up there tells us Shad is a psychotic narcissist and the rightful response to such drivel is "no u".
@@SporkyMcFlyno
I love how fast they abandon the idea that this is "democratizing art" and making it "more accessible" as soon as they need to defend their pride and make it seem far more difficult so they can get the same accolades as the artist's they're stealing from.
As someone who’s heard Shad’s political discussions I think he would take great offense to calling AI art the “Socialist redistribution of talent and work to the untalented and lazy”
So I say we should do that.
Hopefully, the AI gets better.
@ImortalZeus13
I'm in favor of communism as long as I get to be one of the rich-elite.
@@lucascoval828it will get better. In fact, technology improves every year. The only people who are complaining about AI are the ones coping for the inevitable. It's going to happen so you might as well learn the skill now and improve as technology improves so you don't find yourself unemployed or working in a restaurant in 5 years
@@lucascoval828you won't. There's no social hierarchy or government in a communist society
What's sad is I actually enjoy his personal drawings. No, they're not necessarily professional. But, there's plenty of cartoonists out there that also un-refined. If he wanted to improve, he could have found plenty of teachers either locally (I know he has the cash for that) or plenty of free material to be found online - especially on UA-cam. Seeing him mutilate his own work to look like a beginner's over-cooked photoshop job just bums me out.
It takes years or decades+natural talent to learn drawing well. Not all people has the time. Also not all people can learn to draw well if the person(like me) does not have natural talent to draw. This is why i think ai enchanted art is great tool for people that does not have natural talent to draw.
@@markoliimatainen2565 Or it could take a few weeks. I think a lot of people make it out to be both harder than it is but also far too easy. That said, I don't want to get mad at end-users who gravitate to these services. But, I still encourage that if you're already a bit of a creator... Feel free to revel in what you can do.
@@markoliimatainen2565Anyone can learn how to draw at a high level. Talent has nothing to do with it. Natural talent can certainly help improve at a faster pace, but it's not a prerequisite. Picking up a pencil and being bad is something every single artist goes through. The difference comes in the mindset. Do you decide you want to be better, or do you instantly give up because it's hard?
He took the easy way out.
@@markoliimatainen2565 We often mistake talent for devotion and willingness to put time and interest in a given skill. "Not having a talent" for something is more often than not just an excuse. I have no talent for drawing, but I like to see what I have in mind turns to a drawing on a piece paper. I am thrilled to put my time to and create, make mistakes, learn, improve. Maybe I could say that my "talent" is feeling that I want to do something.
But to be more precise, the very definition of talent states that it is a natural aptitude or skill - so something you are born with. The actual talent you might think of is reserved for those extraordinarily gifted, those who don't have to practice, or can practice little. Those who are already one or more steps ahead - one such example is Mozart who composed his first piece at the age of 5 and at the age of 6 he played at an imperial court - THAT is talent. Again, don't mistake talent for willingness to work for something.
This is Photo-Manipulation not creating.
I used to work with artists on fiver alot, and do the same thing he’s doing. Grab their work, mess with it send it back and they’d re-draw it.
I sloppily put stuff together so they would have a reference.
I was not an artist, I was just communicating my imagination TO an artist.
Major difference
As a 3D Artist and a HEMA swordsman, I can't explain in simple terms how much Shad annoys me.
All I can really recommend is that if you're serious about learning the art of Painting, Drawing, 3D modeling, Animation, or even Swordplay... You should try it yourself!
I'm serious, try it! Even if you think you're terrible, learning how to do it is one of the most rewarding feelings in the world!
The comparison to AI Art as a slot-machine is really on-point! It's designed to hook you in and never let go. "Maybe this time, I'll hit it big!"
Watching this makes me feel so bad for Jazza. He really is a great 2D artist, you should watch him- and not his bully of a brother, who I wish I could double-unsubscribe from.
Great video! The thumb joke at the end killed me!
Had to stop watching him after he fell into the "woke mob ruins everything" group.
This video gave me yet another reason
I'm making a website right now, so I don't have the time to try it. The result would be absolutely awful.
The real thing about trying art is you WILL be terrible at it, especially at the period at the start of your hobby/passion/profession/however you wanna call it
Just let yourself suck at it and keep trying
Painting, drawing, 3D modeling etc. are difficult to learn for a lot of people. Including me. I’m terrible at anything that has to do with art, I did dual enrollment in my high school years for 3D animation and hated it because the guy who “taught” is brought us into a room, did a rough run-through of something he wanted us to make, said “make that”, slapped a packet on our desks and walked away. Same thing with photoshop and why to this day I refuse to learn it. I’m writing a webcomic and honestly would have a.i. draw it because I can’t draw for sh*t much less entire scenes, what’s wrong with a.i. art if it allows people who don’t have the skills to be creative to be creative? And btw I found an artist for my webcomic but that’s beside the point. I know my learning how to draw would be a waste of time because I know I would be trash at it.
@@adandyguyinspace5783 I get that. Really. But the solution isn't AI-Image generation. The solution is, which you've done, hiring actual artists. Art isn't just about looking good. Look at One Punch Man or Mob Psycho 100 (The mangas). They visually aren't professional. They aren't highly detailed masterpieces. But they've got compelling story telling and art that fits. Image generation can help you get a feel for what you want when you don't find the motivation to learn or when you are desperate and in a tight spot regarding money. Learn it on your own time. Don't stay with bad teachers like the one you had. I taught myself everything, and believe me, it does wonders in terms of being frustrated or "bad". Art isn't about being good. It's about showing the world what you see, what you want to see, how you feel. AI can't do the latter. It's not art. Art is intention. Au can generate images, not true art. Not bashing you either, if you want to use it, use it. But be aware of why artists see image generation as bad. It's not because of people like you who can't reach the standards they want to meet with their own skill, it's about corporations hurting the artists they steal from and replacing them simply because of profits, or snobs like the man criticised in the video who essentially calls artists obsolete and who is simply lazy and cheap while tooting his own horn.
you know what would be really nice? if robots could actually do hard labor and humans could focus on what actually matter like arts, science, philosophy and such
Doesn't make sense economically, not yet anyway.
@@BlargvsBlorg I doubt they can be cheaper than third worlders.
I keep thinking of the sci-fi trope of the robots being better at everything except creativity, emotion, art.
And now we live in a world where ART is the thing most in danger of being replaced by robots. Surreal.
@@dustrockblues7567 it always was just copium from elitist creators, who were thinking that "those pleb jobs are going to get automated, not us the thinking class". When you actually think about it, most art can be described through an algorithm pretty easily, I mean, that's how it is taught. Drawing, writing, poetry. Meanwhile, to automate a plumber you need basically a fully functional android, even to automate a worker doing one task on an assembly like you need an expensive and sophisticated robo-arm in many cases.
To be honest, that wouldn't really be any better for society as a whole either. Not everyone is intelligent in that way, and not everyone gets enjoyment from thinking too deeply about things. Humans need the ability to be laborers.
His art (the unedited pen drawing, not AI) reminds me of what Jazzas art looked like when he showed his progress from beginner to professional. You can tell both brothers had/ have a passion for art and were sharing it at some point to the point that they developed similar art styles. But while Jazza persevered, Shad seems to have gotten frustrated and semi gave up. It's probably the constant comparison with his brother. I know that feeling. My sister also is a great artist and I used to compare myself to her which made me feel jealous and inferior. But I grew out of it which Shad doesn't seem to have done. He wants to prove he's just as good
It is is really sad when this happens, especially since a lot of people seem to forget there’s lots of other ways to be an artist besides drawing. I was in the same boat, my little sister is a prodigy at drawing, and me and my other sister tried to follow. By all accounts, we were all very good, and she was extremely supportive of us, but I was never able to put in the “work” to make my drawings look the way I wanted it to. So I kind of gave up.
Then, my grandma taught us how to crochet one family vacation, and four hours later, I discovered amigurumi (crochet stuffed animals). I was a MONSTER. In 6 months, I have my own little “zoo” of toys, have completed 5 commissions, and several gifts for family members, including a 4 foot long goose for my boyfriend. But the first gifts I made were for my sisters, because a lot of times, it felt like they were my biggest cheerleaders.
People should support each other more in their own hobbies, and also branch out themselves a bit more. If that were to happen, I feel like less people would feel that their products are underwhelming.
Way too relatable.
This feels so relatable I have a brother 2 years younger than me and he is smater and stronger than me I have in our school years always been jeolues of his prowes but now i have found what unique in me and griwn out of those things
In sci fi AI is used to do mundane tasks so humanity can focus on the arts and creation
Wild how people defend our current flipped script
You know, it makes perfect sense that Shadiversity would be an AI art bro. He's always been the sort of person that twists his own standards to glorify the things he likes and shit on the things he doesn't (historical accuracy is paramount except when it isn't, a weapon being effective is essential except when it isn't, realistic worldbuilding is all-important except when it isn't), and pretends like his book is a flawless monument of fantasy literature when it...very much is not. Of course he'd do the same thing for this.
For some reason, he has really, really attached everything on his double bladed sword, attempting to do his best to demonstrate why it is an unsung god-tier weapon.
I mean, he could use simple logic: there's a reason why Halbeards, quaterstaffs, Naginatas and bo-staff are far more common weapons and no one seriously tried to forge two swords together to make sword-staff. It just isn't practical.
yeah il be honest, i used to watch him years and years ago, when he spoke about detailed world building inspired by brandon sanderson and detailed magic systems that make sense and have rules i got intruiged by his book so read it
hooo boy is it bad, genuinly just abysmally writen (and has a lot of "the artists barely disguised fetish" shit hanging around in it too)
and it just immediatly keyed me in that this guy has no idea what hes talking about
then a year or 2 after i stopped watching him i hard some of his political views.....yeah im very glad i stopped
As a long time fan of his channel (but not him as a person) you can REALLY tell he's very egotistical and stubborn.
In his sword making videos, his colleagues often disagree with him on what they should do and he just overrules them, only for them to be proven right many episodes later, meaning they wasted a lot of money because he refused to listen.
And when his book did really well (I actually do love it), he bought a MASSIVE section of land. Except he didn't buy it. He got a mortgage. As an Australian, I can promise that the property market in Australia is beyond screwed and getting worse every year, and will get worse every year until the whole country riots on the level of the BLM 2020 protests. Mortgages are a massive scam you're forced into because renting is even worse (I'm only 25 and I've nearly died in rentals multiple times). So signing up for a mortgage based on a sporadic income relying on ONE book for the deposit is a TERRIBLE idea.
Point being, now he's constantly releasing videos on how his channel is dying. It's rough that the algorithm is punishing him for no reason, but he'd be in a WAY better position if his reaction to his highly successful book release wasn't "I'M RICH NOW!" and signing up for a loan he could never pay back.
The guy just keeps digging himself further and further down.
It says a lot about the strength of your beliefs when you have to lie 10 times for every thing you say.
@@wafflingmean4477 the "algorithm" isnt punishing him
people are just not watching him anymore cos his content is bad and hes an awfull person
I do like how he tries to gaslight Jazza that he draws at a professional level when Jazza is an actual professional artist and has been for years. Also hilarious considering he is glossing over the mistakes AI makes.
As an amatuer who had reached roughly shad's level (with better anatomical knowledge) I can tell you absolutely that he has not. He could definitely find people to throw 20 dollars at him on deviantart for a commission now and then, but would not be hired as a professional artist.
@@justin_5631 That's probably what he means by people commissioning him. I've been drawing for a long time and even I wouldn't say I'm at a professional level. There's a huge jump between a real pro and a hobbyist. Had Shad kept on the path he would have gotten there one day just like anyone would with enough time and dedication instead he'd rather be lazy.
@@TheSeriousPain Well certainly not currently at least.
That was really awkward watching that interaction between him and his brother. You could tell how uncomfortable Jazza was because he’s too nice to tell Shad what a dickhead he’s being.
Watching Shad claim he is professional level with a strength in anatomy in particular when his drawings are ... decent at best with rather poor anatomy, its all just so cringe man, i've lost respect for the guy
Listening to Shad's defense of AI art has made me against it.
Its like hes never met an actual digital artist before, because digital artists use post fx all the time. Hes also just ignoring the fact that this human input that hes doing is going to be eradicated because the end goal of AI art programs is to be flawless from the beginning with little effort. Even AI "artists" themselves are going to be replaced in a market so saturated and easy to pick up that theyll just train in house employees to do this stuff in a few days.
Shadiversity after beating a Guitar Hero song on hard mode: As a trained, professional musician, and a perfectionist, I am perfectly qualified to teach this course on songwriting and advanced guitar techniques.
Fun fact: there were people actually flexing that Guitar Hero is more difficult than real guitar.
@@Sejten11I play guitar. The chord heavy songs are harder for me on guitar hero lol
@@Sejten11it's still better, at least they play something kinda similar to guitar(although still very far from a real guitar play), they aren't flexing a robot playing the guitar instead.
I'm more qualified to teach than him, since at least I've had two non consecutive years of actual guitar lessons, and actually know how to play one. And I'm not even remotely qualified to teach anything.
@@jonh2798acoustic or electric?
This is like saying that commissioning art from an artist takes skill, and that describing what you want to see to said artist takes just as much time and effort as drawing the art itself.
@@BlargvsBlorg i would rather live in a "Boomer" world then a world void of human expression and creativity
@@BlargvsBlorg - Imagine having the mindset that knowing what does and doesn't take equal effort and skill is basically being stuck in the ways of old. Like, you realize that makes zero sense, right? Aren't *you* capable of telling how much work goes into things you produce and consume? All they said was they don't require the same level of skill. Y'know, the kind of thing technology tends to be known for introducing? More people with less skill churning out what somebody else knows how to make from scratch? For someone so knowledgeable as to teach the "boomers," you have to know that.
Usually, those people being aided by new tech and options aren't claiming they're chefs because they can order a meal to go and say "toasted; add extra salad; no mayo," then wait 'til it's cooked and delivered by car. Or that they're calligraphers because they can print out words in premade font styles.
For some reason, you're being strange about someone echoing that same sentiment about AI art. When you're doing AI art, you're a client unilaterally deciding several artists will fulfill your commission, copping their work and splicing it together, not paying them nor asking their permission to use their work, and then saying twenty peoples' creations are *yours.* No, it's not the same as actually working to not just understand how and why each composition comes together, but gain the muscle memory, coordination and consistent movements necessary to use the knowledge you have. But seeing as your comment didn't actually address OP, I doubt you actually came to debate the topic at hand, as opposed to conflate the issue raised to be something easier to discredit.
@@BlargvsBlorg - Lol. Once again, ignoring the arguments I actually presented and conflating them to get something easier to discredit. Thanks for confirming my guess about your lack of intent to acknowledge the statements actually presented by the people you're addressing. Not exactly how competent debates work, so I'll call it off on my side. Neither of us will get anything out of it - at least not anything people properly debate to gain.
@@BlargvsBlorgnope. Get out of here with that BS.
Art is communication between sentient being. Ai images are not communicating anything, never will.
@@BlargvsBlorg I'd rather live in this boomer world then
00:45 I think 6 months is long enough for you to learn basic drawing from 0 experience, like dude, just enroll in a drawing class or something, no one prohibits you from using AI if you learned to draw.
"Only my skilled eye can see the proportions beeing incorrect"
Also her proportions:
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Was thinking the same. Her head is massive and the foot he talked about getting correct.... wasn't even positioned correctly. He spent 2 hours making the original AI art a worse picture and wants credit. It's like a toddler scribbling glasses on your masterpiece and claiming they are the artist.
Uh..your emoji piece is far more interesting
"her shoulders are too broad" HUH ?
@@undeniablySomeGuyI was also very surprised by that. It’s obvious that it’s every other part of her body which is too small, not the shoulders being too wide.
AI would probably be more skilled at anatomy if that were actually true. The problem is it takes a good artist to train an AI to make good art.
The thing is that Shad's original art is infinitely more interesting and unique than the Halloween costume advertisements that he calls his AI art
I was surprised by how good his art was. It wasn't perfect, but I enjoyed the weapon and armor focus
Even when he puts their legs on backwards, at least he actually did that himself.
It gives me vibes of obscure animated cartoons that air right as you get home from school and get cancelled after 16 episodes. It's not great technically but the direction wasn't that bad tbh
I used to do work like Shad's in photoshop when I worked as an auction photographer. Digital manipulation to remove artifacts, (Without misrepresenting the quality of the auction item) was a key piece of marketing to boost sales by effectively advertising online... So you adjusted levels, cut out backgrounds, removed or added shadows... It is alot of work, especially when you have 2 weeks to do this to over 1000 items people pay for the privilege of... So in my experience I can't say Shad isn't doing work... But I hesitate to call it art unless it's at the bottom end of the art scale. It's an impressive handling of the technology, but the foundational construction of the image wasn't performed.
Give me break. If AI were not a thing nowadays, you'd look at his work and say it's crap (because in fact it is).
Honestly after trying AI generators, it gave me more reasons to learn how to draw and become an artist not a prompter, I do believe they are useful as tools like brainstorming other than that its boring and sometimes infuriating.
I agree, after a while you realize AI can only spew similar things (mostly portrait) they can do some other things, but not very good at it, especially bad for action pose or scene. Heck ai can't even get weaponry right.
For brainstorming tho, its very good
Exactly. Ai art should never be considered the final product. It should be at an idea phase
exactly, is fine to use it for ideas, but becoming a prompter will only hinder your drawing skills
One thing I think AI is genuinely good at, and I don't mean that as a joke, is eldritch horror concept art. There's some amazing art of creatures and locations that really capture the "impossible to describe" horror of some of Lovecraft's writing. Part of it is because AI sometimes makes errors that a human wouldn't think of.
AI is great for talentless artists like me. Finally I can create realistic characters instead of stick figures. I'm so thankful this new technology. All my life have dreamt of creating art and finally I can do it. Now I can spend my time iprovimg things I'm actually good at, instead of trying to learn how to draw for the 100th time.
The most upsetting aspect of this type of AI image generation to me is the sense of satisfaction it brings. When I dabbled with one of these I was haunted by the thought that If I had access to this technology when I was 7 years old I might not ever learned to draw, art might have become a novelty that I got bored of. My heart is broken for the young artist that may never be.
3:40 Shad: "My strengths are anatomy and character"
This may be the best example of Dunning-Kruger ever caught on video. Shad has not the slightest idea how bad he is
If you hate his art style let him use AI instead, what's the problem?
@@dejanjakobovic9803 because then the same issues remain, if shad doesnt know what hes doing wrong the robot is definitely not catching it either
so its the exact same only this time hes using stolen data for it
@@phoebusapollo8365 does it have to be 100% correct though?
@@dejanjakobovic9803 nope
But if he’s going to market himself as a constantly growing artist who has an artistic eye for proportion, anatomy, and a specific style, then it would lend him more credibility if he and his robot weren’t stumbling in the dark repeating the same issues he had in his traditional art days but neither having the basic artistic skill to recognize the problem.
Artists sometimes deliberately ignore anatomical rules for the sake of styles. They know the rules and then break them to achieve what they want.
If you’ll notice, that’s not what Shad is doing, his anatomy became worse while he was mouthing off about how he was FIXING IT because he has the artistic eye to recognize proportions and anatomy.
He broke the rules while bragging about following them
Saying that to Jazza is wild too.
Seeing jazza passive aggressively say shads drawings aren't very good gives me life
That's not passive aggressive. At all.
That's him not wanting to call out his brother in public, but also not being willing to be bullied into saying what he knows is a lie.
It's not even that, the point he's making is that professional level artists aren't getting work, it is a big problem. Shad wants to make it about skill and how he's "professional level". The point is "bro, there are many artists 10 times better than you and they aren't getting work, because there's so few jobs".
I would say he is being polite.
That’s not what happened. What happened is his brother was making a fool of himself and Jazza was effectively as being as nice as possible without outright lying. However Shad can’t take a hint and insisted on pushing him until he was forced to make a mild statement of criticism.
@@ImortalZeus13 "Be honest, but only if you agree with every word I say".
Finished a job today for a client. Don’t worry, I made sure to tell them how talented they are as an artist.
thats a great comparison 🤣
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Ah, drumming up that repeat business already, I see... Insufferable. This is why AI is replacing you. Well, that and modern "art".
@@DiogenesDworkinsonThe joke didnt just go over your head, it went into orbit
@@AwildgamerI got the joke. It's just not funny, and it is insufferable. Again, AI is better.
AI art has NEVER been about the art. It has AND ALWAYS WILL BE a grift.
It's about the commodification of human culture into a mere market asset. Such a dhame.
20:07 "You take away my computer, I can still draw and paint. I still know anatomy, I still know Color Theory. I can still draw a scene in three-point perspective." "If you take the magic Skinner box away from an AI artist, they are dead in the water"
This is probably the biggest thing to point to when it comes to AI art. No matter how much they claim it makes them an artist or a better one, those skills vanish the moment they step away from the computer. At best, they can direct another artist in better detail than they could before.
The program does not make the artist. The skills of the artist makes the artist.
I am mainly a 3D artist where a situation like this can be applied to much better than others. Taking away my computer does not take away my ability to draw. Nor does it take away my knowledge of composition, lighting, anatomy, perspective, etc. That's the part that matters. Skill can transfer between programs and mediums.
I use Blender mainly, yet I can just as easily make the same stuff in another program like 3DS Max once I familiarize myself with the layout (And have before).
For 2D artists, it's just as much the same. Each stroke is still done by hand. Remove photoshop and they'll either move to a new program or return to pen and paper.
And now we're in an age where graphics aren't everything. At least, Realism isn't everything.
I've used AI Image Generators a little in my spare time. I know the keywords and the process Shad's gone through to make something with it. I still would not use it to replace my own art process. Enhance it maybe? But never fully replace. And I've seen that use already with some artists using it to tackle parts they don't enjoy as much like say a distant city they then paint over a bit.
The fun of art for me is the process of making it. Looking at something and knowing somebody genuinely made that with their own hands. It's why so many people look down at something the moment they realized it's AI generated. Suddenly every stroke on the canvas means nothing more than another rule a computer is following.
Art is not a popularity contest. Nor is it a race to make the best, most realistic-looking piece ever. It's a medium for people to express themselves.
AI generated art is more so like (as mentioned in the video) you're directing someone else to make something. They make their piece and show it to you. Then you tell them what you want adjusted or edit it yourself to say "make it look a bit more like this". That's not you making something. That's you telling someone to make something for you.
At least when you're commissioning art from someone, there's still meaning in each stroke of the brush.
@@BlargvsBlorg The most popular game being played right now is Lethal Company. A game that, by all means, looks terrible graphically. And yet it's running toe-to-toe with the latest Call of Duty release. We have comic artists taking it into their own hands to make their ideas into films and animated series with funding purely by their fans. With more popping up every other month.
Meanwhile the corporate space like Marvel has been falling down a drain of cheaper and cheaper looking FX as they keep changing the script or give impossible deadlines. Being more realistic doesn't matter if your budget pushes you right back into the uncanny valley.
I've seen AI make its space here too. For Deepfakes to make a character look more consistent with how they should look when the actor's grown old. I've seen the jank of early AI used in horror products to enhance the uncanny feeling of a certain scene or the monster. It's an amazing tool that'll keep improving. I have myself generated some really neat stuff I've shown to friends who I've tossed tips back and forth with. Even using it to generate some really neat character designs I'd later go on to draw then model myself.
But I set my foot down when someone spend five seconds in Stable Diffusion, grabs the first few results, and uses that as a reason why they're a better artist than I'd ever be.
I'm a Zoomer. I *AM* the next generation of artists. I'll use this tech how I believe it should truly be used and you can keep rambling from your couch.
@@BlargvsBlorg False. Artists /can/ draw without Photoshop. Abusing layers? My brother, that's just reducing destructiveness. It's excellent for putting in a portfolio.
@@BlargvsBlorg The fact that a lot of artist /won't/ do something does not therefore mean they can't. 'Personally wrap each package' or, you know... scan it? I don't know why you feel the need to dickride the mass theft and misappropriation of people's art to create lifeless images for douchebags.
Once I learned Jazza is his brother everything made so much more sense. Dude has been overshadowed by his little brother for his actual talent for as long as he's been doing it, and forever scorned that his "talent" is just knowing shit about swords.
*and he doesn't even actually know shit about swords*
@@DatBrasss I don't like Shad but he does have reasonable knowledge about certain historical periods and weapons. Hower he tends to go from "knowing about a topic" to thinking he is an expert on said topic which results in him making inaccurate conclusions that often get disputed by actual professionl historians. Shad's real issue is his insecurity combined with a massively inflated ego from the small amount of youtube clout he has. Jazza, who is a lot more talented and succesful on youtube, has been able to stay humble where as Shad is so insecure that any slight criticism, valid or not, will cause send him into a major rant.
@@dgmt1He doesn't know much about swords because he does not understand the fundamentals of scientific research. Waving a sword around and checking to see what techniques feel logical to you isn't research and does not allow you make accurate inferences and predictions about how swords were actually used. This is the issue Matt Easton and others have had with him going back years. If you want to know about how something was used historically, you need to understand how to conduct, or at the very least read, scientific research. Everything Shad "knows" about swords can be learned in an afternoon on Wikipedia.
@@DatBrasss All I could think while watching the clips of Shad on his throne was "why are the zweihänder's parrying-hooks angled that way?"
Projection much. Shad is actually an agreeable person not like someone who's so driven by resentment like you apparently
"My skills are increasing" is an insult not to just Digital Artists but anyone with an artistic hobby to begin with
How is he so delusional? I'm not an artist. He draws _way_ better than me. I'd be confused for children's first drawings. But you can see lots of problems with his stuff. And things that don't appear intentional. How does he not see that?
It's a tragic irony in a way that the love letter comes from Shad out of all people. It wouldn't be so strange if it came from some crypto loving sigma male grinder NFT invstor, which there are quite a few out there.
Shad on the other hand built his channel on medieval history. You'd think a person like that would perfectly understand the value of handcrafted work, because in the subject of which he built his fame, virtually everything was handcrafted and tailored.
you can tell its shads art by him putting a mini skirt on all female characters
So Shad is an anime artist?
@@shellshockedgerman3947No, because then everyone would have breasts the size of Neptune.
@@MoolsDog2005 or be 8 years old, or both
@@Jane-oz7pp No, that's ShadMAN.
And your lucky that the images dont come with a backstory, otherwise going by his book, they would all be minors and rape/SA victims.
I'd be less mad if Shad would just own up to his laziness, but his superiority complex is in a whole level of infuriating of its own. He's really the embodiment of why AI "artists" could never be respected.
even some real artist feels insecure about their art despite their art is godly tier, but Shad is on "child hill" of Dunning Kruger effect graph
@@OFraternaMori he's the king sitting on top of Mount Stupid
His whole "look at how much human input this has!!" Is like your friend making an amazing batch of cupcakes and you going over and sprinkling mismatched store bought sprinkles and then claiming you made the cupcakes.
The only thing that separates shads AI machinations from other AI machinations is that some people try and generate women with pants; a concept that the algorithm in Shad's brain doesn't comprehend
I literally counted how many of his AI girls wore skirts and it was like a dozen
@@riddlerx994 You should have counted how many don't wear skirts, it would have been easier
@@riddlerx994 Considering how angry he got about Peach wearing pants in the SMB movie trailer that honestly checks out
Was once bored out of my mind and tried to generate a picture of a woman with acne with AI. Used several tools. Wasted like slightly more than an hour. Didnt succeed.