Weed is MORE DANGEROUS than you think: the golden cage of wasted time
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Many folks believe cannabis to be a relatively harmless drug: it's next to impossible to overdose on it, and it doesn't seem to create physiological dependence. It's not a "hard" drug, like some of the other "bad" ones. However, weed is much more dangerous than most people think. Among other things, it tricks people into thinking that they're using their time well, and it keeps people comfortable in situations they have no business being comfortable in. I discuss more in this episode.
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Many folks believe cannabis to be a relatively harmless drug: it's next to impossible to overdose on it, and it doesn't seem to create physiological dependence. It's not a "hard" drug, like some of the other "bad" ones. However, weed is much more dangerous than most people think. Among other things, it tricks people into thinking that they're using their time well, and it keeps people comfortable in situations they have no business being comfortable in. I discuss more in this episode.
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"the real danger ... is not that it's acutely dangerous but that it makes the user's shitty situation more tolerable which allows it to continue much longer through time ... keeps folks gently trapped for years in circumstances that they might have long ago have been able to change"
Sounds like it could be extended to excessive media consumption, video games, porn, social media use, etc.
yeah that should be extended to everything that feels good until you are only allowed to work like a slave waiting for the reward in the afterlife LOL
I 100% agree. weed, porn, social media, video games, and others are vices that our generation got to fight against
It allows you to be okay w being bored
@@desmonides How to you manage to get bored in the modern world at all ? Live in the amish community without internet?
I really don’t even want to think
Of the time wasted on social media . I honestly feel bad for kids that are growing up with an iPad in their lap at the age of 5
This is the best explanation of stonerism I've encountered. You can go out and accomplish something meaningful or you can just smoke and get roughly the same level of satisfaction from doing nothing.
One does not derail the other.
There are many examples in our society of people succeeding. Just because you lack motivation does not mean you can scapegoat a substance
Good Morning Orlon, you commented five days ago, and so let me copy and paste it out for you: "This is the best explanation of stonerism I've encountered. You can go out and accomplish something meaningful or you can just smoke and get roughly the same level of satisfaction from doing nothing."
I wonder whether you get high. The doctors problem is that he is talking about what he has no experience of personally. Yes, when a person is high, their base line for euphoria, goes up, but then happiness and delight are still relative, and Stoners know the difference between an terribly boring movie and the best movie of the decade. Okay, if you get high, then see if this makes sense to you, that when you are Normal, your mind is mostly about Doing, Functioning, and that most of what you do is really from some Autopilot. You don't think or reflect on the things around you. It is the Consciousness of the Conscientious Drudge. But the High State of Consciousness is about Perception, Reflecting, Evaluating, all with that heightened base line of Euphoria. People getting high are full of insights that elude the Normal Drudge Consciousness. And, yes, looking at your own High Poetry the morning after and saying "So What!? This is of no use", well, it is to compare Apples and Oranges, to expect the Autopilot Mind to see from the Heart of a Poet.
But, yes, I've noticed myself that most people are lazy, and lazy even when they are normal. The best use one can make of the Heightened Awareness and Mental Reflectivity of being in the High Consciousness, is to be active while high, to practice skills. For instance Black Athletes are always getting into trouble for going to practice Stoned, but they're also the best players, right? That should tell us something. For me, I practice dancing two or three hours a night. Yes, the Euphoria helps keep me going, as it is very strenuous, but what I notice and what I feel are in a high order of awareness. I learn more and I learn it all more deeply.
@@DrSoapp That's true for some people. But for other people it definitely does undermine motivation. It affects people differently, much like alcohol does. There are plenty of stoners out there thriving at life. But I think the doctor correctly describes the negative effects it has on the majority of users.
Overall, I think it should be legal, but on the other hand, I personally benefited from quitting.
@@DrSoappthe exceptions don't disprove the rule. While not all stoners are losers, most losers I've met are also stoners.
@@DrSoappweed definitely doesn't help with motivation, though, so thr point still stands
South Park did an episode about the dangers of smoking weed back in the early 2000's and Randy Marsh (Stan's Father) actually summed it all up in a concise but very effective statement around the end of the episode, and this is what he said:
"Pot makes you feel fine with feeling bored, and it's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill, or discovering some new science, or being creative. If you smoke pot, you may grow up to find that you aren't good at anything."
Who would've thought that a seemingly low brow animated sitcom would actually dropped down some pearls of wisdom back in the early 2000's? They were ahead of their time IMO!
South Park is still dropping wisdom to this day !
Wow. That's an amazing statement.
South Park has been dropping wisdom and life advice since the beginning. For a few seasons, nearly EVERY episode ended in a moral discussion on that episode's topic
As a daily consumer, I think you are absolutely right. It's a hard truth for weeders, not easy to asimilate.
First you have to admit to yourself , that was you are doing is natural, nothing to be ashamed of. I never used drugs without alcohol, but only for socializing.
But I suppress my bitter feelings with other stuff like video games , where I can be a hero instead the being loser, who my narcisstic ego put me on.
More logically I should try to improve my surroundings, and if you try it, it works generally. Just my experience.
Work for yourself!
Same. Though, I've recently bought a box where you can lock it for a set amount of time, and I put the weed in there. That way it only unlocks on the weekends. This helps a lot, but it's not fullproof because sometimes I can still get weed other ways. Still, it raises the minimum potential energy cost to getting high quite a bit, on average.
get rid of it
I think you're spot on. Sadly, it's not just weed that's the problem it's all substance abuse across the board.
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weed is not a problem at all. People who don't have in motivation in the first place IS>
We should have war on drugs again ugh
Alcohol, coffee, nicotine...
@@sadhu7191 I'm not saying that but we need to teach children to make better decisions. This country is falling apart and it's because people are complacent about the issues that drug use causes.
I have been smoking for 17years.. Everything you said is completely, 100% true.. Working on quitting as we speak.
..and how old are you?
@@bikemike1118 35
@@Tiny_420 …at least you were already 18 when you started. Good luck & stay strong 💪🏼
I don’t want to sound outrageous but I have two friends that have somewhat ruined their lives by smoking weed. They have smoked it daily for many years and they went from being outgoing, social and full
Of energy to very reclusive, sluggish and paranoid persons. They are not the same people I used to know .
@@brianmeen2158 a now 27 year old son of a former neighbor started in his mid teens and nowadays often has the urge to shower REALLY hot (actually too hot for human skin). Which sounds funny at first is a pretty common phenomenon of longterm weed smokers. It surely can cause psychological issues …depending on starting age and dose.
I really needed to hear this, it's difficult because everyone else around me keeps saying it's okay or "it's not as bad as other things" therefore its okay to smoke up as much as you want. I'm tired of being comfortably trapped but still utterly miserable
You can do it man. I smoked everyday for years but I quit and friends all still smoke I just tell them "no it makes me anxious" and they drop it.
@@therepublicrestored I am interested to hear your story. How old and what made you start? How long did you smoke? How has your life/career/education been impacted over the course? And what was the catalyst that made you quit?
I can give you mine. Been stoner for around 15 years, progressively worse. The main culprit was the anxiety after smoking and development of auditory hallucinations even while sober (hearing voices of my father), but realising it's all just in my mind. It was kinda easy to quit once I couldn't get high without getting really anxious/paranoid though. Those things(life, career) weren't majorly impacted I guess, but I think the problems would get worse, if I wouldn't stop (so maybe they were). I also think my mind will get sharper with time as a result. Just my 2 cents @lover551
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Heavy user for years. This is accurate. Except the artistic aspect. That’s real and has likely been part of most entertainment you’ve consumed.
I smoked in the evenings for many years. I play music. I wrote some of the most interesting melodies and progressions during that time. When I'm sober, I tend to write straight forward stuff. Catchy, but predictable. The stuff I wrote high was often "outside the box" of what I would typically write while still retaining that catchiness.
The Beatles, Nirvana, Hendrix.. tons of musicians have written some of the most creative music when high.
That's been studied. People feel like they're more inspired but they're not. The best predictor of inspiration isn't weed, or anything of the sort, it's boredom.
Weed didn't enhance you in any way.
It's not that accurate he obviously has very little experience with it. It's saved my life, made me a better person and opened me up spiritually even more and kept me productive.
Most people don't know how to use it.
Excellent points. Here's another: I learned in a continuing ed course for my nursing license renewal that daily use of cannabis, (which has been specifically bred for high content of psychoactive chemicals and over the past decades gotten very strong) increases the risk of psychosis by 500%, and the test subjects were screened for no prior evidence of mental illness or mental illness in their families. They were already daily users, of course, the experiment did not give cannabis to people to see what would happen!
Cannabis has considerable value for autoimmune disease and it's the only effective medication for PTSD that I know of. When you have a medical use for it, you don't experience the high, it provides clarity, especially if you have chronic pain. If you're getting high, it's recreational and should be treated like any other intoxicant. If it's keeping you off toxic meds & improving your ability to sleep, think, function, don't let anyone bug you about using cannabis.
Two cool points for the vocals. 10 for saying “rawdog reality” without smirking like I did.
I think he said raw dogging reality. Too high to go back to check. Maybe later.
@@bernibeckmann9753 yeah it’s from a meme pointing out how “crazy” it is that there are straight arrows out here who don’t even drink… in a sense these ppl “rawdog” reality why we season substance abusers use protection
I smirked 😄
Been smoking for almost 25 years, this is all 💯 true. Sure, I'm not nodding off at the bus stop on fentanyl, sure I'm not breaking into houses to feed a meth habit. Sure, t's "just weed", but to say my life has been anything but ineffectual and unfulfilling is an understatement.
22 years old and i just stopped using 3 months ago and after being so contempt with life from using weed every 3-4 hours I'm currently going through the stage of being even more miserable in my situation than i ever was, Its putting alot of scary thoughts in my head and i feel hopeless right now BUT a shimmer of light shines through my dark cave as i am now taking steps to get my cdl permit to begin my life journey! Hoping life shifts toward my favor eventually...
Hang in there. Take it one day at a time. You'll get there.
I've been homeless and now I'm a computer programmer. The only thing stopping you is you.
Good on you, man, getting that license and a real job will make your life so much better. You'll have money and the freedom and security that comes with it, and there's no substitute for that. Hope everything goes well for you.
content* is the word you were lookin for
polarity and delayed gratification are the keys to happiness. only a matter of time
I use weed, and this is all true. That being said, I own my home outright and have a great job.
then weed can be your nighttime "treat" after accomplishing a productive day of work/adulting.
Same here, I use weed to relax after a hard day of work.
I use weed sometimes. Mostly it makes me feel paranoid, so I’ve switched to using pipe tobacco instead. I think the general essence of this video is overuse of weed. I know people who use it all day every day and if they ever have a time when they aren’t using it they are very agitated and angry people.
I kind of agree. My wife and I smoke weed and aré doing fine, even looking up to a better life... However, in my particular case, things could has been acomplished much faster without it. Force of will is very important, consuming it or not
From my experience, this is true to 90% of weed smokers. I was like that in a young age, too - and it all stopped when I didn´t do weed anymore. It took me 10 years of hard work to live the life that I wanted to, but it was worth every day. There is a deep truth to "you only live once" - and if you kick your ass you are able to achieve more then you ever thought.
The other 10% just do weed occasionally or in the late evening when all their responsibilities are checked and they enjoy it for a few hours before sleeping.
@Known: _"The other 10% just do weed occasionally or in the late evening when all their responsibilities are checked and they enjoy it for a few hours before sleeping."_
Correct! This is where most people under-30 screw-up. Weed becomes the focus of their life. They smoke too much and too often and ALWAYS before their most important responsibilities and tasks have been completed. EVERYONE should look at weed as the "ice-cream treat" at the end of the day when there is NO WORK left to accomplish.
@@josealexi5141 Totally agree with you, in that way it has really nice benefits. I don´t do it anymore, but I still think positive about it if handled properly.
@@known8172 I am interested to hear your story. How old and what made you start? How long did you smoke? How has your life/career/education been impacted over the course? And what was the catalyst that made you quit?
I agree with you. Im so addicted I’m scared to leave the weed totally alone . But it’s hinder my life and I’ve been stuck for 10 years. Now all it does is increase my anxiety about my future and life. My days go by pretty fast . And I know once I get things under control I will be a better person for myself, also achieve more. God bless everyone 🩷
@@Cali1414 Wish you all the best. You can change everything you want. Believe in yourself.
Thank you so much for this balanced discussion on the topic, you are proving to be very useful my guy keep it up
I quit weed in my early 20s to pursue my goals without the drag. After 20 years after failing in all my goals I started again. My ambition was more toxic than weed. I essentially agree, though.
Interesting. And understandable. Hopefully you can chill out at least.
you did your dash though, you will not regret it on your deathbed despite the failures. no wondering what if.
@@dontcallthemliberals3316 well said.
this is accurate... "success" in this society sucks
While I think this is true for some it’s not always the case. I’m 24 and have had a more off than on relationship with cannabis since about 18 years old. Some of my most productive years were during my heavier use. I’ve also had periods where it was an escape. But I’ve also had periods of time where I’ve been unproductive, depressed, and lonely while sober. The only real differentiation for me has been my habits. If they are good I’m doing good and if my habits are bad I’ll quickly spiral down. I’ve also noticed a lot of the times when I partake during a lower point in my life it makes me painfully introspective and aware of how poorly I’m doing in my situation. It’ll be to the point where I’d rather be sober because I can better ignore it. But at the end of the day anything that can be used as a crutch has that potential to be used that way by anyone.
There is smart use and there is using it till it makes you addictive and wastes your time.
Exactly right! It's so easy to find yourself saying "Well I've got nothing else going on..." then weeks go by and you look back and wonder why you don't have anything going on.
I noticed with myself after smoking alot for many years that getting high was the only thing I looked forward to. If you asked me I would have rather smoked the whole day and played games than do anything else, and that is a sad life, so I was depresseed about the life I am living... after realizing this I am now 1 month clean without any issues, the only fear I had was if I would still be able to enjoy the same things as if I were high, and the answer is yes. It is also amazing how quickly the relationships with people I love improved.
If you are suffering from the same problem as I was, than just quit, the hardest part is the decision to do it. If I could so could you, and I spent my whole life smoking every day for 15 years :)
He has a strong point and I really appreciate hearing his persepctive. But if your living a shitty life and you got years of effort to go until it gets any better than you need to develope coping mechanisms that help you deal with your current situation because dealing with the present is far more important and takes priority over working towards the future.
My life is 100% not in the direction I want it to be in at the age I’m at. I am going to use this video as inspiration to get out of an intolerable situation.
Epic video man. Thank you for making this.
This channel is pure gold
@PsyHacks Thank you very much for this video, good gentleman.
Good point! Especially about that compound effect of improving one's life :D
Had this realization years ago, and weed just stopped being enjoyable. Two years ago I took a 5 hits off a joint and wasn't prepared for how potent it is now... wow.. too much, put me in a trance, couldn't think at all.
In general, I agree with this assessment. However, this is not always the case. Me and my brother started our daily weed consumption when we were 12 and we are now both highly accomplished doctors in medicine and engineering, respectively. Of course this is only anecdotal but I wanted to show the point that it's not necessarily the substance but maybe the personality that leads to an unsatisfying life situation.
How much do you consume? There are people who will have a joint every once in a while and there are people that have to have it every day.
i've smoked for 15 years and in the last year or so, i took a 6 month hiatus that ended mid-November, and I stopped again in February but without a definitive timeline. My uncle literally just left my apt smoking (while I'm not). Let's just say that what I would have done with the 2.5 hrs that he was here would have been way different if he hadn't come over. I did nothing productive AND i wasted time waiting for him to show up, but he showed up an hour later than planned... likely due to being high (or lower energy overall due to habitual smoking, as well as his day job). Watching this video was candid timing because it articulated the thoughts I've had increasingly over the last few years about why I want to stop. I'm in my early 30s now, and I have friends doing phenomenal things in life and I know I've sapped that potential but fortunately still have the opportunity. However, i know my window is closing rapidly and I'll have to work extra hard at my age but I can at least still do it... but weed is almost a no-go for me. Unless I get a routine of only doing it AFTER my day's to-do's are over, and even then with my long-term history of smoking, it's a slippery slope where I'd rather only enjoy it say, once a season on a celebratory truly vacation occasion. I think I'm mentally at the point of letting go of smoking weed as a daily/weekly lifestyle. I may smoke once a season, which would be like 4 times a year. That feels like the most that I can do nowadays and still be responsible and on track with the trajectory I aim to achieve in life
You don't need it four times a year. Just quit and take it a day at a time. You'll eventually get to where you want to be.
I agree. I am from the Bay Area and smoking weed is a tradition 😂 I started smoking weed at the age of 12. Now I am 37 and I having a hard time focusing and getting my life on track. I live in another state now . Being bored and isolated would make you want to smoke lots of weed . I am a very ambitious person . But I start projects and never finish them. When I broke up with my ex my anxiety got worse by smoking weed . Just going thru the break up transition made my situation worse . I had financial problems but all my money was going towards weed and cigarettes. The worse addiction ever. I cry sometimes to stop the recreational abuse. But it’s hard sometimes. I’m currently slowing down. My plan is to award myself when all my hard work
Is done. Also start smoking more cleaner weed. I am just grateful that I am aware that I need to get ahold of my mental health and life.
-God Bless ❤
I worked as a psychologist in a drug and alcohol rehabilitation clinic. All of the clients said, "Marijuana is a gateway drug..."
Given how overwhelmingly positive the online community is, towards cannabis, you'd think it cured all disease. I'm against prohibition for any drug, but I can't help but think weed is hugely overrated.
You obviously have very little experience with it. It's hugely underrated.
@@marksamson932 I wish that were true.
Thank you for talking about this. I'm trying to convince the dangers of "recreational" drug use to my family and friends and how it effects your brain chemistry in deleterious ways.
As a heavy user that has decided to stop I can say there might be some truth to this. However, one thing I don't think non heavy weed users realize is that eventually the weed doesn't affect you like it does the first time and watching paint dry isn't all that exciting anymore. Eventually those intolerable situations just become anxiety inducers and they aren't so tolerable while on weed anymore, the weed doesn't make it better. At least for me I needed to stop weed because it would just put me in those bad moods. Honestly, On weed I was able to work great and would even say I worked better at my job as a software dev because I would have tons more patience, but eventually even that went away and I would find myself unable to focus. One thing that quitting weed has made be realize is that time goes by slower, weeks that would go by in a flash would start to seem infinite, which at first seemed like a bad thing, but after the first 6 months I guess my dopamine started to function correctly again and I started to enjoy things once more. I sleep deeper and have actual dreams that are great. And now It seems like I spend a ton more time enjoying things in life that used to go by in a flash. I am no longer plagued by negative thoughts that I cant not stop and I can breathe better.
This is gold. Many thanks
Great talk, and a tremendous use of the term “Raw Dog”. Never thought to use it like that. Speaking of, I would make the same arguments about porn. It can make loneliness tolerable but isn’t sustainable long term. Perhaps another post on that topic. Anyway thanks for another great post.
Insightful information. Thank you for sharing.
The same could be said about all escapism, for instance device addiction allows you to escape partial reality and judgment
Yep ... all distraction. Even reading can be that - like I read fiction almost non-stop ages 7 till 15 (when I got a computer). Then the computer killed the book - and it was distraction ON STEROIDS. :( It only went downhill from there...
Thank you for speaking about this.
When I was a younger man and smoked a lot of weed, I felt like I was stuck in mud, not progressing, not growing, not learning anything of value, and going nowhere. Since then I’ve accomplished many great things while living a relatively (an occasional beer or glass or wine) sober life.
Thank You Orion!
Another problem that goes unaddressed is how weed can trigger psychosis. That alone can be a very dangerous mental flip to reverse. If someone thinks they have problems now, psychosis is an even more difficult issue to come out of. It doesn’t take a lot of smoking to prompt this either and it can also activate in long term cannabis smokers.
My withdrawals are pretty bad when I stop
Excellent video. Would like to see more like this.
I completely agree with this, marijuana helped me a lot to have a very sad adolescence from which I don't feel recovered to this day. Thanks for your work, a hug from Spain.
Thank you Orion!
Reminds me of the saying that "If you put a frog inside boiling water, it will jump out. But if you put it in cold water then slowly turn up the heat you can boil it alive."
Hey Doc. Do you think Anti Depressant's are similar to weed in that you develop a tolerance for a crappy situation?
Absolutely spot on. I’ve seen it first hand quite a bit. Also guys that subsequently in their mid twenties until halfway thirties have very much difficulty getting fully of smoking weed. It’s absolutely detrimental for your drive and motivation. And most people use when their teens and young adults, a critical time to have motivation, drive and discipline to move ahead in the world. The harmful effects of weed are very much unappreciated.
Do you have any longer form videos? I'd love to hear you flesh out these topics for a longer amount of time.
I love the work your doing
Hardly anyone does anti Drug Propaganda better.
"Recreational Drugs" is Government Propaganda. It is medicine. Self medication for PTSD mostly.
The depression PTSD causes is not recognized as pain. Drugs relieve it. And cause euphoria in the process.
Been hooked since I was 14 I'm 37 and need and want to quit now more than ever agreed with everything you said , I never graduated , I never got my license, that's what my goal is at the moment , I put off everything till I feel high enough aka motivated enough to do it !
As a professional musician, I've always invested my time in becoming a better musician rather than getting high and expecting to improve just because. Amazing video! 🤘
50 y.o. heavy daily user here. I’m quitting when my current stash runs out, but only because I’m tired of dealing with black market shady types. Otherwise, extremely happy and thankful for weed. I wish it were legal to sell it in my country! I’m an accomplished, successful person with an extremely interesting and rich life, and I credit marijuana for much of it. I had abusive, narcissistic parents, and I remember trying weed at 18 and suddenly realizing “life is good” for the first time. No fear, no worries, I can relax. Nowadays I feel that all the time, and I will forever sing praises to good old weed for that miracle. Am I the exception that confirms the rule?
Nope, completely agree.
Always loved it, but never smoked it much before it was legalized, for the reasons you describe. Once it became legal in Canada, I smoked it every night to help me sleep, for past 5 years. Over the past year, I started doing it more iny weekends or socially because I never much liked drinking, and loved it for that purpose too.
It's the perfect "I'm done for the day, time to relax or enjoy myself" and it will make whatever you're doing more fun.
I'm both athletic & successful in my mid 40's. The idea that it will ruin your life is false... You just have to remember to take care of your stuff first, then have fun 🤷♂️
I see this the same way I now look at porn - it's a coping 'solution' to help me with tolerating being single. Instead of accepting the situation (and the pain) that comes with it.
This is exactly how I used weed during the Covid pandemic during an internship search (took almost 8 months) - it was frustrating and weed was just a fun way to get out of that feeling. I clearly remember feeling excited before using it.
I've been tearing through your videos today Orion, thank you for sharing gold in a digestible format. It's the closest thing to getting a much-needed straight talk from a mentor/experienced man :)
Good for you for recognizing what you were using it for.
The good thing is that it suppresses you ability to think, that is why it is easier to cope on weed. The bad thing is that it suppresses your ability to think.
I think that's true for people who don't have creative jobs especially. A lot of artists including music makers, writers etc have used weed to further increase their creativity and have made some amazing art. Weed usage just needs to be balanced like anything else in life tbh.
@@3eezy Maybe in the past, yeah, but is that still true today? I feel like a combination of technology, social media and weed will sap any motivation you have. As he said, it makes boredom more tolerable. I have never been less creative than when I was smoking it regularly.
@@christianlovelock3910 All of that applies to you. I know people who get unmotivated on weed who don't have social media and have really good paying jobs. I also knew people who are on social media all the time and will clean their house and do taxes 🤌. Weed just affects individuals differently.
Nice singing voice Doc! Good video too. :)
I like cannabis and came by it later in life. I would agree that constant use numbs you to what may be at the time a no solution situation but to just get high. I think occasional use is good in good and bad times. Aa a practicing Catholic I use it occasionally but not during Lent or other Holy Days. This video definitely gave me something to think about and generally agree. Thank you Doc.
Moderation is key to all indulgences
this is bad advice
This is correct! Weed will make shitty situations seem great. My ex roommate years ago had a girlfriend that used to smoke alot. She had a past that scarred her and he was not always the nicest to her. I can tell when she was having bad days by the amount of weed she smoked. Fast forward to today, she smokes more than ever. New boyfriend is worse than ever and she smokes more than ever before. She has a great job and gets paid well. Her daughter is happy and she has a great relationship with her. But she never learned to cope with her past. She still gets verbally and emotionally abused but with a new guy now. Weed just makes it bearable for her, meaning she will never get herself out of that situation or learn to cope.
Life is hard. Life is challenging. But you don't get strong muscles in a day. You don't become the best at your job in a day. You don't become a great speaker instantly. You need to put your nose down and grind your way to success. Some situations are worse than others, but weed is an escape from struggling. As Les Brown said, "If you do what is easy, Life will be hard. However if you do what is hard, life will be easy."
So firstly I have to mention about the alcohol dependency thing, around 8 years ago we had a friend that used to drink everyday. We within family and friends wanted him to quit… all of us being ignorant that you cant just cut off like that… long story short, he quit alcohol, withdrawal symptoms were so bad that he got hospitalized and he died in the hospital. So yeah that alcohol withdrawal being fatal is real.
Secondly about the weed thing that is also so true… i travel between canada and dubai and realized that when i am in CA where weed is legal i smoke everyday and become complacent with my situation and when I am in Dubai where i have no access to drugs i actually start doing things to improve my life.
So yeah consensus with everything you said in this video.
Maybe I'm atypical, but it's been my experience that the 'erb actually does push my thinking into genuinely interesting lateral modes that allow me to make long-range intellectual connections between apparently disparate topics. It also often motivates me harder to focus on interesting problems: the number of times I've put down my project for the day, started to unwind, and am almost irresistibly driven back to it...
None of this takes away from its negative effects on perception of time and perspective: it does shift the emphasis of my thinking from the macro to the micro, and thus blinds me a bit to the overall motivational structure I should be working under, and it also blunts my perception of time in a way that can lose me productivity.
Also, in the absence of proper routines and especially sufficient exercise, unmoderated use does tend to drag down motivation and affect one's life negatively, so I'm not saying it's not dangerous either.
My point is that I can categorically refute Orion's point about merely "feeling" more creative. There is a subset of people for whom it unlocks modes of thinking that are much harder to access normally, especially in the creative and intellectual realms. It's so dangerous precisely BECAUSE there's actually something worthwhile to be had from it.
Quit 3.5 months ago, everything you said is spot on.
Or an eighth ago, if you will.
Very true. My short, cubby nephew smokes it daily. He lost his job and gave up trying to find a girlfriend. He's just consuming his small life savings without a focus. He has a dream of starting a financial business, but he's putting in only token effort. So that seems like a daydream to me.
So what is the problem in all that? He looks like he is happy and he is out of the rat race. more people should do that. why he should ever bother with that pointless business with by 90% probability will fail and endas wasted effort or girlfriend which will end with possible child support or other problems if he can get better result with weed?
Well for starters a pot head starting a financial business is nothing but a pipe dream. If he can’t tell that doing drugs is wrong he shouldn’t even make finding a girlfriend his next step.
Tell him to get himself cleaned up, get a job or apply for a company that will help him get certified in a trade. That’ll make him into a man
@@deltaxcd That’s gotta be the worst advice I have ever read on the internet so far. A guy who’s smoking his life away needs to edify himself not stay addicted and getting a girlfriend is not a problem of any sort it’s men that can’t vet women that bring consequences on themselves
Was it necessary to describe him as short and cubby? Sounds spiteful to me.
@@pantsonfire2216 I will ask why do you think he needs do to do anything, isn't it for him to decide what he needs
why do you think he should bother with all that certification and other nonsense if he is already good?
Weed helps me cope with stress and physical pain from my eczema, idk how I would cope without it.
That’s why I rarely smoke and when I do I have to do some activities. Like running, playing sports, sex, etc. weed at its best puts me in the zone and gets me slightly more creative and present. Other than that I’m in agreement.
Nailed what I've been trying to figure out for years. Thanks.
I used to be one that said weed was totally safe. Then I dated a chick. Chem major with grad school plans. Practically perpetually high since puberty.
I barely smoked but had nothing wrong with her doing it so much.
Over time I noticed how she could not handle stress at all. Once she had a fight with her mom on the phone which made her ugly cry. Can't remember why only that it shouldn't have made her cry that much. Sat next to her and tried yo comfort her. She forcefully shoved me and got her bong. That was my moment that made me question if there's some underhanded way weed can screw you up.
Tried suggesting she ease it up but never got anywhere. Spelled our the hard truth. Told her that she spends a lot of time studying which for her was just memorization as she never has any unique thoughts about things only textbook facts. The unique thoughts indicates a deeper understanding of the material which she never really had. I'd had taken 500 level courses and they were a completely different beast to anything in undergrad and that if she can't get through undergrad without getting stoned then she has no hope in grad school.
Eventually we broke up and she got into a PhD program. She lasted a year. I was legit pissed. she had done unforgivable crap to make me dump her but our whole relationship was almost like it was centered around her getting into grad school. And immediately she crashed and burned. Wasted my time on a f'ing loser.
Of course there's the posibility that the insights one has during smoking can be 'brought back' to the land of the sober. Personally I use weed occassionaly as a tool for meditation, bringing trauma to the surface (vulgarly considered a 'bad trip) and enhancing conscious perception. It can be an excellent tool for these, but to this video's point, it is not to be confused for a daily habit or a replacement for showing up in life.
Great insight Orion 😊 someone is using their brain 🧠 in the medical fields… cannabis can be a little more complex, having Crohn’s disease it helped me slow down improve digestion and stop pain.. but that notion sucked me in further into a no man’s land… it gave me a burst of faith to follow what family circumstances have kept trying to suppress… BUT YHH TIME IS ON OUR HANDS 🙌🏻 thanks. When I’m rich & famous I hope we meet but now it’s back to my art, welfare payments and council house renovation 😂 this is where I dreamed to be a few years ago. With a fallback to my creativity, but now I got the circumstances to create now I need to bring home the mustard etc
Glad someone is covering this topic. I've got friends and family members whose lives are shit due to decades of excessive pot use. The addictive properties are extreme. The brain craves it and will argue very convincingly that you should give it a pot high.
It isn't the weed that caused it. It is the PTSD that caused the need for weed that is the problem. Weed is medicine.
Excellent. I always thought it caused too much laziness
But not using it makes me an insufferable, unhappy overthinker.
The one thing I notice among 100% of the weed users I've ever met, is they've got zero motivation. They all defend weed's "miraculous" properties and always say how alcohol is worse than weed, but I've seen some highly motivated alcoholics, but never a highly motivated pothead.
There are a bunch of successful, highly motivated stoner public figures. Laziness is more down to people just being lazy than whatever it is they're smoking
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After riding my mountain bike for an hour or so(which I happen to like), yeah Dr. Taraban!
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Wow, thank you so much!
Been smoking since 16 am now 68... You do the math... It's keep other people alive, those I'd have hurt... It also makes me better in bed according to a GF... Find I do go through a bit of withdrawal when I quit... It does make things sound better than they are, look better too...
I agree with all of that, except I have never had a withdrawal I don't think. What do you experience with that?
@@marksamson932 grumpy, a bit confused, sometimes am angry for no real reason... Anger is best for working out for me... When stoned will work out and when finished am straight again... Just before starting to work out will smoke...
Perfect timing 😉 this popped up while I'm watching the movie: Shooting Heroin
From my experience it removes boredom and a sense of urgency for things that one should be working on. This is fine on a Sunday afternoon but during weekdays it can be a problem.
As a on/off user i agree 100%. I did used it as self medication to soften suffering, be more tolerant and patient with myself and others. It works, but leads to passivity.
There s other things with similar caracteristics: masturbating and social media (yt included). One spend more time being passive...excusing ourselfs with "we are learnning valuable stuff".
May i suggest topics?
1 - how to deal with break ups when there s children envolved (and you love them)?
2 - how to deal with the reality that most women (all over the world) expect that one change to acomodate to their expectations when they move in, and or you become maried, or become parent... stand by your principles, negotiate, give up...?
3- how to deal with relationships when one is (too) emocional/impulsive/instable/open... and the other is close, avoidant, non comunicative ,etc, and one makes the other worst at it?
Tanks a lot for your work. You are very good clarifying complex situations.
i agree, i was lucky and smart enough to not do any drugs up until i was about 28. i have tried many drugs now, psilocybin, MDMA, and cannabis. I am happy I did, my life became better specially after doing psilocybin. I do cannabis in the form of healthy edibles to avoid smoking, because I had a healthy lifestyle before drugs and accomplished a great deal of success professionally and financially, doing them now actually makes me be more of those good things. When I take an edible I feel more of a desire to be productive and get things done, my training sessions have become more enjoyable and have achieved a better physique as a result. i feel a greater sense of purpose and motivation to achieve my goals. I appreciate all the beauty of nature around me. anywho, I see your point, its true ( i often tell myself, if I had done this in my younger years i would have been in trouble) but I think if you are smart enough and wait long enough and have complete control of your mind it can just be a treat to your life, better than having alcohol or crap sugary food. what do you all think?
Orion's description of the psychological motivations for, and consequences of, long-term self-medication are dead on. Something I said to a friend on this topic is that "it's soothing away your dissatisfaction, and you NEED your dissatisfaction to motivate you to improve things."
Thx for this video. It is very enlightening. Would you think is better to have it and no do it or is better not to have it.
I can say from some very painful experiences in my life that pain, in its self, not a teacher but a powerful tool that can motivate ones self to learn or do anything that one needs to do in their life.
I agree with everything you said Doc!
Your voice sounds like Mort Fertell of Marriage Fitness.
It’s good speech inflection, compelling and easy to follow at the same time.
I remember that day, when I quit cold turkey, weed and nicotine. God it was horrible. But I had no choice, my anxiety just wouldn't allow any stimulants whatsoever because of chronic panic attacks. Man and the nic withdrawal coupled with that was pure agony. But I lived, I survived. I haven't had any nicotine for years and weed for almost as long. That was one of the hardest things I've ever done
As an abused child, weed was the hug, love, and acceptance I never received at home. From the first time I smoked it by myself it was my new mother.
Around 25 years of constant use, panic attacks, and munchies that made me fat and lazy.
Once I really gave therapy some time, and worked on reparenting my inner child, the grip of weed loosened, and I was finally able to manage it after trying to quit a thousand times.
Don't beat yourself up if you have a problem. Accept it, and get help, and keep trying.
Certain drugs can be good if used by a healthy person and if treated as medicinal and not dietary.
For example, certain hallucinogenic drugs can change your perspective and lead to personal growth.
Drugs should be used to enhance life or lead to it in some way, not escape. Like any other tool its the way they are used, not they're bad in themselves.
Interesting video. I started using cannabis at an early age. I grew up in inner-city Philadelphia to a mother with cancer and a father that was raging alcoholic. Eventually I quit for a long time. But still managed to list in the army and then use my GI Bill to go to school. Which gave me a great income for the rest of my life. In 2020 I retired and decided that I would start smoking again. I rarely get stoned it just helps. So at night sometimes I will smoke, have some bourbon and chill. I don't have any issues with that and know that I could stop again if I wanted to.
I totally agree that young people should not use any kind of mind and mood altering chemicals such as alcohol tobacco marijuana etc. use that time to get a good education use that time to make money use that time to go to the gym build your body make yourself strong mentally and physically.
There will be times in your life though where something will be needed to help you get through stressful times. Some people use antidepressants, some run and use their body to make endorphins, and some fall into the pit of despair. It's important to know yourself and know where you are going, in what you are looking for out of life. Now in my 60s, I'm looking for peace and serenity. And that's pretty much what I have and I'm okay with using cannabis to help me achieve that.
That's also something I came to realise. A bit late maybe but I'm over it and things are improvig fast. Do you think you could do an episode on long-distance relationships?
Great job
As someone who smoked a lot of weed in the past it is good if you are trying to sleep or have a long, tedious, repetitive non-thinking work task ahead of you like cleaning the garage or mowing 5 acres of grass. TBH that is about it.
Dr Orion, what do you think about cigars? Some people say it's like meditating. I've never tried them and is not going to, but was thinking to bring them to my homecountry as a gift for the men I know. Now I doubt if it's a good idea.
Preach brother.
If I never smoked I would get more done. But I still do plenty and I really get to relax in my free time. I still do what is important to me just fine.
I don't smoke but I want to say thank you from Poland! 🇵🇱
Many young people think it is cool to experience things, that others usualy do. This was something I could never understand, the feeling that I might miss something, if I don't try it. I didn't even hold a cigarette in my hand, ever in my life. I thought: Why should I hold a stinky harmful thing in my hand, and even put it into my mouth. No way! Drugs? Why should I do illegal and harmful things? But my friends liked me this way too, and I never judged them, just didn't join. Yes, I was drunk, 3 times in my life, I regret all of them, and I also don't drink, I am 48.
Living life respectfuly is your choice, don't make low choices, it harms your character. Be one, you can respect.
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