PPFAS vs Quant: Which fund house is better?

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  • Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
  • Quant Mutual Funds and Parag Parikh Financial Advisory Services (PPFAS) have seen massive growth in their AUM in the past few years. This growth has been driven by the returns their investment styles have generated. However, beneath the surface, their investment styles couldn't be more different.
    PPFAS buys stocks of companies with solid fundamentals and a competitive business model. It also considers valuations the most important parameter when selecting stocks. Quant, on the other hand, has an unconventional way of investing. It uses an in-house model that combines fundamentals and technicals. The model scans out stocks and they don’t hesitate to sell the holdings even within a few months if they no longer qualify its model.
    In this video, we analyse their investment styles in detail and also see the periods when the two investment strategies perform better. In short, we recommend watching this video if you want to know which investment style is better for your equity portfolio.
    Chapters
    00:00 Introduction
    01:26 PPFAS vs Quant
    02:00 Being Conventional vs Being Relevant
    03:55 Unpacking Portfolios
    08:32 Performance Analysis Assessing Strategies across time

КОМЕНТАРІ • 171

  • @maheshmoharir9314
    @maheshmoharir9314 Місяць тому +78

    Out of box thinking of Quant is really impressive.

  • @ramyasri6093
    @ramyasri6093 Місяць тому +68

    If Quant MF manages same type of returns in next 5-6 years then it will be considered a miracle

    • @brajeshsingh2391
      @brajeshsingh2391 Місяць тому +7

      agreed. Quant has performed well in a consistently rising market over the last 1 year where its momentum style works but once market becomes static then it remains to be seen if Quant MF can generate the same return. We have seen this with PMSes in the past. They came into the market and with their quick footed approach they generated much better returns than the index. But now they are struggling.

    • @brajeshsingh2391
      @brajeshsingh2391 Місяць тому +1

      also to share Quant MF performed the worst in the stress test. Their returns are high but they performed poorly in the stress test indicating their liquidity is not as high as some other established conventional MFs. Its pretty obvious if you chase a high return strategy then high risk comes naturally. Nothing against the Quant AMC but I would not chose a fund which does not place fundamentals at the top of investing strategy.

    • @Razrman
      @Razrman 21 день тому

      @@brajeshsingh2391it depends on your investing approach and objective. Understanding the possible demerits of quant, I can invest 20-25% in it which won’t trouble me in a downturn but give me that alpha in a momentum.

    • @religionofpeace782
      @religionofpeace782 5 днів тому +3

      @@brajeshsingh2391 How was SBI small cap's stress test result?

    • @zeeshanzia6364
      @zeeshanzia6364 День тому

      not possible ....also its coz of Adani shares..they dont have good financials

  • @aj-by4nc
    @aj-by4nc Місяць тому +77

    Best fund is which not just gives returns but protects downside during market crash

    • @ramyasri6093
      @ramyasri6093 Місяць тому +2

      Well said

    • @vivekkvt949
      @vivekkvt949 Місяць тому +8

      thats correct. Quant going down heavily when market crash

    • @rules436
      @rules436 Місяць тому +7

      Quant has high churn of stocks.if I buy an MF I need it to adapt than hold and pray ...
      my pick is Quant .. thou I have both

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому +2

      Hello, thanks for sharing your perspective

  • @subodhadavadkar7158
    @subodhadavadkar7158 Місяць тому +131

    Buy both 50-50 simple solution

  • @sudipbanerjee8312
    @sudipbanerjee8312 Місяць тому +7

    I have been following this style since last 1 yr

  • @prasadpasala1340
    @prasadpasala1340 Місяць тому +34

    I have large percentage of investment in Quant. I switched from PPFAS flexi cap to quant... PPFAS flexi cap has exposure to foreign equity, hence a stability, when Indian equity incur losses as on 09.05.2024. Quant momentum fund is best in class. thankful for insights into nature of these AMC, this helps us to take better decisions.

    • @neeraajsharma
      @neeraajsharma Місяць тому +1

      Same here, i have been saying the same thing but nobody lestning, sooner or later ppl will realize.

    • @SurendraKumar-si8lw
      @SurendraKumar-si8lw Місяць тому +5

      PPF : value investing so good for long term, low risk and downside protection. fund size moderate effect
      Quant : Just like trading , in bull run high return but in bear market may loose money, high risk. if fund size grow its hard to manage money . not good for long term. Saw some comment better to invest in both fund house.

    • @neeraajsharma
      @neeraajsharma Місяць тому +6

      @@SurendraKumar-si8lw offcourse, but i think we all are investing in stock market becase we think india is in a bull run and will remain same for at least decade, may be we will see 1 or 3 years of bear run.

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому +1

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  • @RahulYadav-nk6wp
    @RahulYadav-nk6wp Місяць тому +10

    People early in their career: Quant on the basis of Sharpe, Std. Deviation.
    People in there later career: PPFAS (aim should be to prevent wealth erosion, wealth protection)
    People can maintain 60-40 of these two funds.

    • @nasdoc1
      @nasdoc1 21 день тому

      The most sensible comment.

    • @darshans5185
      @darshans5185 11 днів тому

      Best comment

  • @darshans5185
    @darshans5185 11 днів тому +3

    You've earned a subscriber. Well explained sir!

  • @biologistchirag
    @biologistchirag 29 днів тому +7

    Quant is legendary. Gratitude 🙏

  • @sumitdesai9265
    @sumitdesai9265 20 днів тому

    really great and informative video, thank you so much

  • @shoaibmondal
    @shoaibmondal Місяць тому +25

    I think quant is following Renaissance technology's (jim) they didn't care about emotions just pure mathematics tradeing style

    • @whatwonderfulworld
      @whatwonderfulworld 18 днів тому +3

      Oh please dont even compare Rentech with quant. Quant fund house just started getting a lot of traction and in the last 10 years we haven't seen any major crash except Covid which also recovered quickly. The beta of Quant equity mutual funds to Nifty 50 is more than 1 that means that when market crashes quant equity mutual funds will go down even further.

    • @acclimatized8838
      @acclimatized8838 6 днів тому

      They won't be able to do once aum keep getting bigger. That's why they have 20% in reliance and jio or kotak in all fund. Earlier it was HDFC in all fund

  • @dhanwantarihospital5128
    @dhanwantarihospital5128 15 днів тому

    Thanks this video is very informative and helpful for me

  • @dsignedits
    @dsignedits Місяць тому +6

    I was looking for answers and here you gave it in a very simple way. Thank you so much ET money and the person who explained it.

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

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  • @DeepakSharma-vo3fu
    @DeepakSharma-vo3fu 24 дні тому

    Very good explanation

  • @mtkm2003
    @mtkm2003 19 днів тому

    Thanks Sir for helping me to make timely decision

  • @MrVcm108
    @MrVcm108 Місяць тому +4

    Most awaited video

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

      Hello, hope you found it useful. Please share it with your friends, family and colleagues as well.

  • @GabrielGomes-vi9di
    @GabrielGomes-vi9di 26 днів тому

    Great video

  • @ap14spt
    @ap14spt Місяць тому

    Good comparision

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

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  • @arvindjain7295
    @arvindjain7295 Місяць тому

    Excellent video. Thanks

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

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  • @Maknahar
    @Maknahar Місяць тому +6

    Number of stock in PPFCF is 29 stocks (+4 International). Research more please.

  • @jaymadhani8551
    @jaymadhani8551 11 днів тому

    Best analysis!!

  • @injoyutube
    @injoyutube 23 дні тому +2

    One can see the difference. Not only in Flexi cap, but in every segment, Quant is no. 1 fund. It is not easy although.
    I have chosen Quant Value Fund.
    A better replacement for Quant Flexicap.
    Hope it will also move on faster than others.

  • @padaladileep5906
    @padaladileep5906 2 дні тому

    Nice explanation

  • @mtkm2003
    @mtkm2003 19 днів тому +1

    Which quant scheme is better ELSS or value fund?

  • @xenonheat
    @xenonheat 15 днів тому +2

    I think ppfas protects when market is showing downfall. Instead of greed, better go for stable approach.. 🔋

  • @aryanyadav3690
    @aryanyadav3690 6 днів тому +1

    I have both & I like Quant 🔥

  • @saikiranlankalapalli9106
    @saikiranlankalapalli9106 25 днів тому +3

    Great analysis on the Investment strategies of the 2 best Mutual Fund Houses. If Quant Funds continue to maintain the returns for the upcoming 30 years, SIP + SWP will be a great method for Wealth Creation and Capital Protection. It's a long shot though..

    • @Razrman
      @Razrman 21 день тому

      Quant has delivered a fantastic return because market supported it. Markets can’t perpetually be in a rally for next 30 years. So expecting same results for next 30 years won’t be realistic.

  • @avinashumakantha
    @avinashumakantha Місяць тому +5

    please make more such videos across different funds.. excellent analysis

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому +1

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  • @utkarshjasraj
    @utkarshjasraj Місяць тому

    Insightful

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

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  • @Harry-ht9ck
    @Harry-ht9ck Місяць тому

    good explaination

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

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  • @aveshesh
    @aveshesh 27 днів тому +1

    Which scheme gives best returns in quant MF for long term

  • @RaviRajput-mq2ew
    @RaviRajput-mq2ew Місяць тому +1

    Superb Analysis

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому +1

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  • @quadxtech7263
    @quadxtech7263 Місяць тому

    Thanks for this video

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

      Please share this video with your friends and family as well.

  • @sandeshbs6898
    @sandeshbs6898 27 днів тому +3

    3 years back I did same by investing lumsum in both parang and quant but after 3 years now, quant has given 150 percent returns and parag on the other hand just 70, returns are miles apart so think before investing in both!!

  • @mohankumaras
    @mohankumaras Місяць тому +3

    Funnily enough I have both :D

  • @niteshlimbu8627
    @niteshlimbu8627 29 днів тому +1

    I have ppfas and quant mid and smallcap in 5:3:2 propotion.

  • @naveenkishore3743
    @naveenkishore3743 Місяць тому

    Good informative video. Thanks

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

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  • @injoyutube
    @injoyutube 23 дні тому +2

    Quant has done everything to generate highest Alpha. Being a SIP mode investor with less capital, we want higher return in less time what Quant Flexicap is doing.
    Their stock turnover ratio is more than 100% that means they are actively working with the funds.

    • @ambarish92
      @ambarish92 18 днів тому +1

      In a nutshell, they are doing their jobs unlike other actively managed funds who are not even beating their benchmarks.

  • @seajaey1
    @seajaey1 Місяць тому

    Thanks for the informative video!

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

      Please share this video with your friends and family as well.

  • @yashmodi8126
    @yashmodi8126 Місяць тому +8

    Already invested in both, quant elss and pp flexicap

    • @Fhdhd-mx4kb
      @Fhdhd-mx4kb 4 дні тому

      Which is giving good returns.?

  • @Samudragupta_
    @Samudragupta_ Місяць тому +2

    Why settle for 1, when you can have both.

  • @pbg2266
    @pbg2266 Місяць тому +2

    pl discuss quantitave category funds wrt their perfrmance in diff phases of mkt, like bull, bear, consolidation

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

      Hello, thanks for your suggestion. Will share it with the team.

  • @NirmalKumar-xq5es
    @NirmalKumar-xq5es 29 днів тому +2

    I just started to invest PPFAS Flexi cap, hope I will not regret 😀

  • @venstomon931
    @venstomon931 Місяць тому +25

    Biggest risk for PPFAS is Rajeev Thakkar quitting the company. He is an exceptional fund manager. I love the VLRT method of Quant. I have invested in both the fund houses

    • @globalknowledge2441
      @globalknowledge2441 Місяць тому +2

      But who say they are quitting

    • @venstomon931
      @venstomon931 Місяць тому

      @@globalknowledge2441 Nobody is saying.

    • @MabudSarkar
      @MabudSarkar Місяць тому +4

      Rajeev has equity , He is the share holder of PPFAS AMC unlisted

    • @VipulChakurkar
      @VipulChakurkar Місяць тому

      The key man risk also exists with Quant, with the most schemes being managed by 2-3 FM's

    • @venstomon931
      @venstomon931 Місяць тому

      @@VipulChakurkarOnly if they all quit at the same time.

  • @arshivarvariya571
    @arshivarvariya571 Місяць тому +5

    Plz review Motilal Oswal mid cap fund

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

      Hello, thanks for your suggestion. Will share it with the team.

  • @Gandhilgvg
    @Gandhilgvg Місяць тому +2

    I invest 50-50 in both

  • @bhavinmistry6262
    @bhavinmistry6262 Місяць тому

    Best

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

      Please share this video with your friends and family as well.

  • @saikatghosh90
    @saikatghosh90 Місяць тому +1

    i have 30-30 % allocation to both, rest 40% across other.. 10% Kotak

  • @AdityaSingh-iv9wz
    @AdityaSingh-iv9wz Місяць тому +1

    My question is when Quant's AUM increases how will they keep delivering returns with such high portfolio turnover ?

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

      Hello, you are right; it won't be easy. Thanks for sharing your perspective.

  • @piyush7700
    @piyush7700 Місяць тому +2

    Number of stocks in PPFAS is still 25-30. The 55 number includes arbitrage positions as well.

  • @ashishsawant9478
    @ashishsawant9478 26 днів тому

    buy and sell techniques से टॅक्स का क्या

  • @vmkumar14
    @vmkumar14 Місяць тому

    👍

  • @thedefender2191
    @thedefender2191 Місяць тому +10

    Mix of both 😅

  • @udayk19
    @udayk19 24 дні тому +2

    When market is bullish buy PPFAS and when market are bearish or sideways buy QUant . Then can make good returns

    • @whatwonderfulworld
      @whatwonderfulworld 18 днів тому +2

      What!!! Sorry but this doesn't make any sense. There is no research or logic backing this.

  • @fungaming9589
    @fungaming9589 24 дні тому +1

    Can anyone tell me if I place an order for a mutual fund how can I get it on the same day in my account ?

    • @Chenna983
      @Chenna983 18 днів тому

      Hi, generally if we initiate payment and if it reaches the AMC by 2PM, then same day NAV will be applicable.

  • @jsajeev3046
    @jsajeev3046 Місяць тому +3

    Well instead of the fund house review it would have been better if you had done something explaining the name/dob mismatch that is preventing maybe 50% of investors from investing in MFs despite KYC being up date and validated. ET money it seems like a lot of others does not have the courage to tell SEBI what an asinine regulator it has been with this whole mismanagement.

    • @060101132
      @060101132 Місяць тому

      Source of this data other than your personal opinion?

  • @MohitYadav-th7fz
    @MohitYadav-th7fz Місяць тому

    Namste Sir Is it right time to invest lumsum in mid cap and small cap mutual funds..?🔥,

    • @sundershyam250
      @sundershyam250 Місяць тому

      No

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

      Hello, I understand that you want to invest in mid and small caps but are concerned about the ensuing volatility currently. There is actually no good or bad time to start investing in a mutual fund, provided you understand your risk appetite and are willing to invest for the long term. You can invest via SIPs so that you can average your investment cost should the markets correct.

  • @debasishnm8423
    @debasishnm8423 Місяць тому

    QUANT IS MAGIC.

  • @ankurchotaliya6326
    @ankurchotaliya6326 Місяць тому +1

    Please make vedio on Lumpsum Sip

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

      Hello, here's a video you may like: ua-cam.com/video/OCl-z-IXXEE/v-deo.html

  • @aglprateek
    @aglprateek 24 дні тому +1

    Why no one talks about heavy investment of Quant funds in F&O market which is very risky..purely satta

    • @Razrman
      @Razrman 21 день тому

      It’s Satta for retailers like us. A fund house is in DII category. They have enough means and knowledge to make money from FnO

  • @rajbasu8649
    @rajbasu8649 29 днів тому +27

    I'm in favor of Quant, because we are moving into an Era where we buy and forget approach may not work as it did earlier.
    My personal style is Value investing, as I don't have the resources or time to identify opportunities well beforehand. So having quant gives me a strategy diversification as well.
    Plus a data driven Sector agnostic opportunistic model Is what all active fund managers should pursue.

  • @aritradas2303
    @aritradas2303 18 днів тому

    QUANT prefers to follow Momentum Strategy

  • @SGK2325
    @SGK2325 Місяць тому +1

    What about quant active fund

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

      Hello, I understand you want us to analyse this fund. Let me share your request with the team.

  • @kattappa4344
    @kattappa4344 Місяць тому

    Quant is best

  • @vipinjoshi8335
    @vipinjoshi8335 Місяць тому

    Hello ET money team ,
    I requested for call back regarding Genius. It's been more then 10 days . Still waiting for call.

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

      Hello, let me pass on your concern to the customer support team. They will get back to you.

  • @Abhi-ow1dr
    @Abhi-ow1dr 12 днів тому

    50 : 50

  • @jatinbhatoya8420
    @jatinbhatoya8420 21 день тому +1

    warren buffet jaise returns chaiye toh uske liye 90 saal jeena bhi padega. aaj kal toh 60 prr hi log boriya bistra le krr nikl lete hain

  • @greenlinecoolingsolutions4761
    @greenlinecoolingsolutions4761 Місяць тому +1

    Quant small cap best

  • @rahul2756741
    @rahul2756741 Місяць тому +4

    PPFAS is much better

  • @maverickrahul104
    @maverickrahul104 21 день тому

    Only if you had compared 5yr CAGR for all schemes of these AMCs you would have realised who's the clear winner!!!

  • @JishnuChatterjee
    @JishnuChatterjee Місяць тому

    as usual, awesome analysis

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

      Hello, we are extremely happy to know that you found this video useful. Please share it with your friends and family as well and help spread the word.

  • @jaik9321
    @jaik9321 Місяць тому +1

    Quant tax saver is awesome

  • @Jennifer-li7on
    @Jennifer-li7on 9 днів тому

    The market trend can turn around very quickly. In fact, the indexes often switch from a bear market to a bull market when the news is at its worst and the mood of investors is at its lowest point. I read an article of people that grossed profits up to $150k during this crash, what are the best stocks to buy now or put on a watchlist?

    • @Sandra-mv9un
      @Sandra-mv9un 9 днів тому

      In particular, amid inflation, investors should exercise caution when it comes to their exposure and new purchases. It is only feasible to get such high yields during a recession with the guidance of a qualified specialist or reliable counsel.

    • @Deborah-nl2vi
      @Deborah-nl2vi 9 днів тому

      True, initially I wasn't quite impressed with my gains, opposed to my previous performances, I was doing so badly, figured I needed to diverssify into better assets, I touched base with a portfolio-advisor and that same year, I pulled a net gain of 550k...that's like 7times more than I average on my own.

    • @Patricia-pc2xo
      @Patricia-pc2xo 9 днів тому

      This aligns perfectly with my desire to organize my finances prior to retirement. Could you provide me with access to your advisor?

    • @Deborah-nl2vi
      @Deborah-nl2vi 9 днів тому

      Angela Lynn Schilling is her name. She is regarded as a genius in her area and works for Empower Financial Services. She’s quite known in her field, look-her up.

    • @Patricia-pc2xo
      @Patricia-pc2xo 9 днів тому

      She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran an online search on her name and came across her website; thank you for sharing.

  • @benzykaram
    @benzykaram Місяць тому +1

    Quant is liquid.

  • @AhaanSharma-io8fj
    @AhaanSharma-io8fj Місяць тому

    Video is more inclined towards PPFAS than quant. You showed all details of PPFAS in bold and clearly visible letters, but you nearly hidden quant fund details by showing all its fund so that details could not be seen by viewers. Though you could have chosen to showcase 3 or 4 best performing quant funds.
    .
    In my opinion PPFAS is nowhere near to quant in turns of returns.
    .

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  29 днів тому

      Hello, such was not the intention. We are regretful if such an impression was created. We will try to make our fund comparisons more balanced. Thanks for your feedback.

  • @DD-cq9lg
    @DD-cq9lg Місяць тому +3

    YOU CAN WATCH THIS VIDEO IN 2X SPEED.

  • @zeeshanzia6364
    @zeeshanzia6364 День тому

    why cant I buy quant mf in et money app?

    • @ETMONEY
      @ETMONEY  8 годин тому

      We regret the inconvenience. However, this is something that is out of control of ET Money.
      You may be aware that ET Money is a SEBI registered investment advisor (RIA) which allows us to offer advisory services like ET Money Genius. With respect to RIA platforms supporting non-advised or self-directed investments by investors, SEBI announced a new regulation called "Execution Only Platform" framework & ET Money now is obligated to treat self-directed investor initiated transactions as Execution Only. This requires us to pass on something called as EOP code in Direct Plan transactions that helps AMCs/ RTAs and ofcourse SEBI know which transactions from ET Money are advised & which ones are directly done by investors.
      We sent an email on Friday (May 31) for updating our investors about these regulatory changes.
      ET Money has been able to ensure that all AMCs accept EOP code in the transactions; except Quant Mutual Fund. We are constantly in touch with Quant AMC to enable us to send the EOP code which means there are business & operational processes to be followed. Once the Quant's team agrees to the required changes, we are hopeful that Quant Funds will be back on ET Money without any delay., Please note, to avoid inconvenience to our investors, we have suspended only the fresh investments via Lumpsum & stopped new SIP registrations. This change doesn't affect SIP installments of your past registered SIPs or your holdings in Quant on ET Money.
      We will keep investors updated about the progress on this temporary suspension.

  • @TheCrazyheat
    @TheCrazyheat Місяць тому +11

    Quant has given me 40 percent in 7 months ….beat that (updated)

    • @nasdoc1
      @nasdoc1 Місяць тому +2

      Quant has given me 49%in 7 months.

    • @noy12371
      @noy12371 Місяць тому

      ​@@nasdoc1 Which funds do u have bro pls do share

    • @religionofpeace782
      @religionofpeace782 Місяць тому +3

      Quant small cap has given me 15% in 8 months

    • @MindVerse55
      @MindVerse55 Місяць тому +2

      For longer term you should also consider down side protection of your investment which is hard earned money 😊

    • @nasdoc1
      @nasdoc1 Місяць тому

      @@noy12371 Quant infrastructure.
      I also have Quant manufacturing, that gave me a return of approx 45% since July 2023 (since its launch).

  • @anusayapanchal8058
    @anusayapanchal8058 26 днів тому

    Marathi video

  • @LakhanParihar-zd5xc
    @LakhanParihar-zd5xc 15 днів тому

    Et money customer car number

  • @SA-ey9fz
    @SA-ey9fz 20 днів тому

    Service of quant is pathetic

  • @sudheerk67
    @sudheerk67 Місяць тому +2

    Both are good. Investment philosophies of these two may perform differently based on market conditions.
    My portfolio has both:
    PPFAS Flexi
    Quant Value
    Quant Multi-Asset

  • @pradeeppanwar62
    @pradeeppanwar62 29 днів тому

    @beezeestocks