WORLD’S LARGEST CUT & THICKEST BLADES in a one piece head-BISHOP JUMBO 315 gr Broadhead Test
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- This is a test of the one piece 315 gr Jumbo by Bishop Archery.
Here is summary of my 2024 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/the scores of this head posted in parenthesis as well.
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 18 pts)
I'm using a Killer Instinct SWAT X1 crossbow, mounted to a BOG tripod, shooting a 670 gr Bishop Archery GOAT bolt (300 fps) at 30 yds. Field points consistently hit in the 10 ring & bullseye. I use the exact same bolt to shoot the broadhead. The only difference in the two shots is the broadhead's flight forgiveness vs that of the field point. A bullseye gets a score of 11/10, or a perfect score of 20 + 1 Bonus Point. The 10 ring gets a 10/10, or 20 points; a 9 ring gets a 9/10 or 18 points...& so forth, with each wider ring being 1/2" farther from the bullseye. Mechs are also given 1 Bonus Point for extra forgiveness.
2. Cut Size (20%, 19.95 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (2.625" = 7 pts +.35 bonus = 7.35 pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (2.625” = 7 pts +.35 pts = 7.35 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1.75" = 5.25 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 18.68 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 317 grams = 8.83/10 = 7.95pts) & Edge Retention (9%, +15 grams = 9.7/10 = 8.73 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF & 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. (10/10= 2 pts)
4. Penetration (20%, 10.54 pts)
There are 2 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 10% of the score. (5.25" = 5.83 pts )
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 10% of the score.
( 33 layers= 4.71 pts)
5. Durability (20%, 20 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 12% of the score. (10/10 = 12 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (10/10 = 5 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (10/10 = 3 pts).
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
Additional BONUS:
+2.13 pts Super thick blades (.125")
+1 pt Unique cutting action/wound channel
Total Score: 90.30 pts = 10 Golden Arrows
Price: $67/head
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Remember your smooth stones brother. I’ve been praying for you from Reno. Our heavenly father is always faithful. Thank you for your faithfulness to him and for all your broadhead videos!
Thank you, brother :)
I read about your surgery a few weeks back. Hope everything is well!
Can't really get into commenting on these chat boards very much, as just like vanilla or chocolate ice cream 🍨... everybody is passionate about the flavor ice cream they eat, or brand truck they drive etc. However, it is not debatable as tough as our Steel Footed Arrows and 100-600 grain broadheads are....this guy John Lusk is tougher....one of the toughest and kindest hearted human beings on the planet 🌎 and one of the best adventure bowhunters to ever live. Rest up John, we adore you and are praying for you ❤️
Thank you. I wish I could say I’m all better now, but it is going to be a long road. The physical therapist said it would be 8 to 12 weeks after the surgery before I can shoot a bow.
Also I used your discount code with crimson talon and essentially got 6 heads for $56 after shipping. Thanks for all the amazing reviews
Nice. Those are quite the value!
Wow, this head looks like a beast! I would think a 150gr, 1.5" version would be a better all around broad head, but thAt sucker looks indestructible!
They’re releasing a 125 grain version
At 1.6”
@@garnerakin1372 I won their contest to try them out. I got one 125 head that has been "in the mail" for about 2 months.
I have a bunch of the 125 grain versions. They look really wicked. As soon as my back heals, I will start testing them.
@@TheArrowBuilder I’ve got a pack of 12 pre ordered as well. Looking forward to deer season with them!!
I like your shirt!
Thank you. Funny; I’m wearing it right now. It’s my favorite :) It’s made by Bow Adx.
You can really tell how big of a hole these punch with the steel plate test! I got a good laugh at that point in the video. Those square cuts into the edge really do change the cut pattern. I am tempted to machine some channels like that into a more reasonable weight, one piece head like an Annihilator XL or something similar. I would assume the results would be the same. Great video John!
They are coming out with 125 grain version. I have a bunch of them to test and I’m eager to do so, as soon as my back heals up. They sure do look cool.
John, if you dont mind telling, how many shots into the cinder block does that arrow you're using for tough shots usually survive? Or does it survive all of them and you're still using the same one? I've run into a situation where i'm travelling with a suitcase and i cant bring any kind of target with me, but i bring my disassembled recurve bow and arrows with me. I've thought about getting some really tough arrows and just shooting them into a side of a hill for practice, i wonder if a set up can be made where the arrow will survive being shot into the dirt with rocks in it. What do you think about that? My recurve pulls around 50lb at my draw weight and isnt the fastest so energy wise its probably half of your compound bow at best.
I can typically get about 20 shots into the concrete. The arrow rarely breaks, but eventually the insert comes out. I often glue it back in and keep shooting it. If the insert gets too loose, then I shoot it into concrete, then sometimes the arrow will break. That’s really the only time that the arrow breaks. They also make an arrow called the GOAT that would never break. I use those for my crossbow bolts.
That sure would increase FOC! I saw they also have a solid 125 grain head. That may be more practical for most applications.
Yep. I’ll be testing that one soon. I have some already and they look wicked!
Just started the video and can say already the blades are way too thick and that serration is no good. Magnus did that also and it just collects hair and brings it into the wound. If it penetrates 5 and a 1/2 inches I'll be surprised.
Looks like I was right....only 5.25 inches of penitration. Make it about 200 grains without the serration and I'd take a look.👍
That was actually greater penetration than I was expecting. It definitely demands a lot of momentum to make it effective on an animal. It’s designed for people shooting very heavyweight set ups like around 1000 grains or so.
Have you seen the Edgetac 775 grain single bevel?
0.2inch thick blades and 2 inch cut
I’ve not seen those. Thanks for sharing that.
That's a monster! Wow! I'd really like to see how this performs on a deer
Yeah, me too
Yep
Great video! I’m confused by this broadhead. Has the weight that you would use on the biggest animals on the planet, yet has a cutting width that would limit you to smaller animals. I don’t see many deer hunters using a 315gr head nor do I see dangerous game hunters using a penetration-limiting massive cut head. Also, not saying they aren’t worth $67 a piece, but they really should be closer to 200 on the sharpness tester.
It’s definitely a niche head. Some people like to hunt deer sized game with very heavy set ups-just to put them down on the spot. They also plan to come out with a lighter weight version that would be more commonly useful.
Short range wild hog head all day
They do have a 125 grain version as well I believe
Most ranch ferry queens put 300grains up front so they should eat this one up!
@@user-sp9hy8tq4jit’s not single bevel though lol
That's a tank of a broadhead! Definitely as you suggested a no nonsense head. You'd have to be chasing some deadly game for this chunk.
Yep
Yes sir
Could you do the entire test with the crossbow. Would really be interesting to see how the penetration is
I may do that in the future. There is a growing crossbow audience for sure. That’s why I included the crossbow this year. But most of my audience are vertical shooters. So I don’t want to leave them out. I will see how it goes in the years ahead. Thank you for the suggestion.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures if I donate the heads would you do them with a crossbow?
Thanks for all your testing, I go to your videos anytime I’m considering a new broadhead. I really pay close attention to the accuracy test. I noticed your xbow bolts are over 600gr which slows down the bolt a good bit. Is it possible to add in a lighter bolt so that your speeds are over 300fps? A lot of us shoot faster bows, and some of the heads don’t do well over 300fps, it would be nice to see that in the tests as well.
I chose that weight so I could get a speed of right around 300 ft./s. That way it is a very comparable test of the aerodynamics at a compound bow speed. I understand there are other variables like Aero length and spine and so forth. But from a share speed perspective, it is very similar. to test them at 400+ feet per second would not be of any value to my compound bow audience, which is the vast majority of my viewers.
Iron sharpens Iron absolutely correct brother.
I love that shirt.
@JohnLuskOutdoors me too I've watched many of your sermons when you resided in Iowa.
Thank you. You can watch them in Dallas as well: DFW East Worship Center on UA-cam
U could hunt tanks with that lol. Great video
Haha. Right on
Yep!
Didn’t penetrate great but hit with quite some authority. Would be a great turkey head but I’m not sure about penetration on large game unless you have a very heavy bow/crossbow
Yeah, it’s only designed for a very niche market. It’s for those who use a very heavy set up, like around 1000 grains or more. They generate enough momentum to really drive. Even this Broadhead deeply into a deer size animal.
Finally! A broadhead for hunting humvees.
Haha. That’s a good one.
A three blade version of the Magnus ser razer
There are some similarities. But also quite a few differences-materials, dimensions, construction, etc.
Hammer of a broadhead 🔨
Yep.
Think I'll try a 750 (ish) grain build with a 200g spine arrow and shoot it outs my 82lb OG PSE Omen. Even at my Hobbit 26.25 inch draw i recon it'll rock 😁😁
:)
Hmm… getting a little silly these manufacturers.
It’s definitely a niche head. Some people like using a really heavy set up for deer-due to hunting in super thick cover or even suburban areas-and they want to put them down fast.
everything bishop makes is outrageously overbuilt
Bishop makes super high end, extremely durable stuff. It’s just a guy in his basement who loves to make quality archery gear. Very niche market. But their stuff is extremely well made.
well it's impressive sharp despite the thickness but i don't know, it's so much but it still gives so less, i don't know how good this can be in 99% of every hunting situation, the drag it has is so big that i think this could only be really good when shooted out of a 100lbs bow or a very powerful crossbow
Yeah, it is a niche head. There are people who hunt deer with very heavy set ups, just to put the deer down fast. They’re also coming out with a lighter version soon.
Yep
It’s cool and all, but in all seriousness why do you need a 315 grain head?
For that awesome penetration you get with very heavy setups...... Supposedly
Exactly! You don’t even need a total arrow weight of over 400grains tbh
It’s a niche market. I’ve used Broadheads that heavy for very heavyweight situations, like Cape Buffalo. Bishop even makes a 600 grain Broadhead for that very purpose. Some people like hunting Whitetail with over 1000 grains, just to give them incredible momentum with a very large broadhead, so they can put the deer down immediately. People do that especially in suburban areas where they don’t want the deer to run in into someone’s yard, or in very thick areas where tracking would be a huge challenge.
Maybe it being so darn think would allow me to shoot it into anything 20 times before breaking
Well all of Bishops heads are that way-they’re just geometrically and materially as durable as they come.
yea, kind of seems for something you don't need a pass through shot.
Yeah, it’s a very niche product. There are a number of people who prefer an extremely heavy set up for Whitetail. They like to aim right at the shoulder from any angle and they want the deer to just drop. I know people using well over 1000 grains for Whitetail for that very purpose. This head could certainly, work well for them. For the average Hunter, they really is not much use for this.
Get a 3d hv shaft with a titanium insert and make the craziest foc arrow ever
:)
That sucker looks horrendous. Combine the huge cut, thick blades, already not very sharp 60° bevel, plus the serrations, along with that awful angle of attack, and I see one of the worst penetrating BHs on the market. No way, especially at that price
Yeah, it’s a very niche broadhead for a niche group of people. There are some who like to use super heavy set ups for Whitetail. Like 1200 grains. Or people shooting crossbows that want an extra heavy set up. For them, this could be, good use. But it is certainly not intended for the mainstream. They are coming out with 125 grain model, that I already have, that looks really cool. I’m eager to see how it performs as soon as my back heals up.
Single bevels are the only broadheads that continue rotation while penetration id happening. All others dump energy and stop spinning. "Pushing" through if you are using anything other than single bevels. Try stabbing shit with your arrow by hand and see if you can twist it through any medium.
Yep. That’s true-for whatever gain might be had by that continued rotation.
@LuskArcheryAdventures the gain is gaping huge gashed out lethal wounds vs slits and cuts!
Steel force saber tooth
Yeah, they use a type of serration as well
I give this broadhead one year on the market and then vanishing.
It’s a niche market that it appeals to. That’s what Bishop is, fundamentally. They have a few other broadheads that are similar in that regard. They’re not trying to target the main stream.
I don’t think the head being so thick specially S7 tools steel it would be better with thinner blades .
Well, the thicker blades are, the wider the “blade” part of that wound channel. That’s a pretty wide path each blade is leaving, not to mention the overall cutting diameter.
cool head but whats it cost like 4 grand lol
Well, a lot less than that. Definitely a niche market.
Sharpness was poor. Penetration was poor. Accuracy was good, not great. How does it score >90?
I think the accuracy was decent because of how slow it was going, if some of these heads were tested over300fps they would be like throwing curve balls.
Just look at the score sheet in the video description. Same parameters I use for testing every head.
Does anybody actually buy Bishop products?
I'm surprised they are still around to be honest. I'm sure they make quality stuff but I seriously dought many people are willing to pay what they ask when there are much cheaper products that work just as well or better.
They have a very niche clientele; not unlike saying, “Does anyone still buy Lamborghinis?”
Defenitely not intended for passthrough.
Haha. Well, for the people that are shooting well over 1000 grains on a Whitetail, it may still get a pass-through, especially with a crossbow. Honestly, I was surprised it penetrated as well as it did in my testing.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures makes sense. Im only shooting 640. So I guess that those really heavy ones might make it happen. Looks cool. Not for me but looks solid. Either way keep bringing content. I like to watch!
What's this lol?? The next line of 500 dollar broadheads from bishop? Pass.. don't even need to see it .. but will always leave a like and we'll see the next one! Peace and love
Ok. Thanks Mikey
Just a little over the top. I’ll pass on this one. My 62# DW wouldn’t even get this thing airborne.👍👍
:) It’s definitely a very heavy weight set up.
Judging by the comments, this broadhead is a HUGE marketing and engineering FAILURE.
Well, comments are one thing; performance is another. It’s definitely not a head for most; but for people with very heavy set ups wanting to put a deer down fast, this will do it.
Nah!
:)
Basically it’s a Massive QAD Exodus with a bit of Magnus Buzzcut 🤔🤷♂️ not very innovative imo just a copy of others ideas
Haha. That’s funny. Neither of those have even close to the same dimensions, materials, or construction. But other than that, they’re similar :)
Alot of copy cat in this head..but hey thats business 😊
Like what? Much of what they come out with is copied by other manufacturers, who then do it much cheaper by using Chinese stuff.
@@JohnLuskOutdoorssteel force broadheads but in a 3 blade
Well, you can only do so much to abroad head and not have it look like something else. But as much as I look at Broadheads, I’ve never seen anything like this. Sure there are others with serrations, but this machined out of one piece of S7 tool steel-there is nothing with these dimensions, materials, and design. But there are plenty of 3 blade heads…and a few others with serrations.
Well, you can only do so much to abroad head and not have it look like something else. But as much as I look at Broadheads, I’ve never seen anything like this. Sure there are others with serrations, but this machined out of one piece of S7 tool steel-there is nothing with these dimensions, materials, and design. But there are plenty of 3 blade heads…and a few others with serrations.
How can he justify charging what he does for his products. It's absolutely asinine
It’s the cost of using all US steel and machining and hardening, of S7 tool steel. He could go to China and make a similar head for much less, but is die hard on using all US stuff. Many broadheads claim to be all US made, but get their steel in China.
Exactly I absolutely refuse to use anything made or produced out side canada or the usa
@@stephenferguson6363 ok that's not what I'm referring to at all. It's like $300-$600 for 3-6 broadheads. And around $800 plus for a 1/2 dozen arrows. The dude is smoking crack. I love this channel but the bishop company is is insanely overpriced. Read his bio. The dude is VERY proud of himself and will let you know.
@Fshnmndan95 very true I get it....
I'm more of a vpa archery kind of guy around 80-100$/3 American made but won't break your bank account
Or Magnus all American Made lifetime warranty and a great price
A Broadhead you need a second mortgage to pay for General generic tool steel nothing special Oz per ounce is dam near near more expensive than gold
Well, to get that size of S7 tool steel-all bought and machined and hardened with a proprietary process in the USA costs a lot. Many heads say they’re made in the US, but are not.Everyone has different budgets; some can afford it, most cannot. But it sure is intriguing.
Kinda reminds me of that Big Cut 3. I’m amazed it flew so well.
Alot of copy cat in that head....but hey that's business I guess....😊
:)
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One of the worst broadhead designs I've ever seen
Ok.
Completely useless lol. You need 90lbs limbs to get that arrow moving 250fps to penetrate 3 inches lol.
Well, there is a niche group of Bowhunters, who like to use very heavy set ups, in order to put the animal down very quickly. There are also crossbow hunters who like to use a very heavy set up for the same reason. In tissue, and with that much momentum, I think the penetration would surprise you.