Trump on trial: Supreme Court arguments on immunity Highlights
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- Опубліковано 24 кві 2024
- MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow is joined by Lawrence O’Donnell, Chris Hayes, Katie Phang, Nicole Wallace, Ari Melber and more to discuss the arguments presented to the Supreme Court today on the question of whether "presidential immunity" protects Donald Trump from being prosecuted for his role in the January 6 insurrection.
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#MSNBC #SCOTUS #Trump
if the Potus can, then why cant Biden do it to Trump now?
Same thing I said!!!
SCOTUS will work quickly when it's in best for Trump but drag their feet when it's against Trump. If they decide POTUS is immune from criminal accountability, they can overturn that decision when POTUS isn't Trump. What they decide, is the law, even if it contradicts their earlier decisions.
He is waiting for the court to say it is legal.
Exactly.
Biden could cancel the elections.
I’ve always defended our judicial system but this Supreme Court is so far out of line it’s indefensible.
Impeach Thomas
Well , at least 6 out of 9 .
@@katethomas4495 Alito as well. He's completely corrupt and bought too.
He needs to go to Rickers
Exactly❗⚖️❌🏛️❌
Absolutely sickening from day one this country was meant that no person was above the law
Lawrence is a voice of reason. Love him.
I can’t take it anymore. I cannot understand why they love trump?
Because he’s transactional- conservative judges in exchange for limitless grift and criminality.
They are out to change America into their vision, authoritarian. White rich, men ruling
@@MrM1729 hmmmm.... we headed for becoming a criminal state if the Blue vote does not mobilize.
Its a faction of underperformers who don't want to be left behind and another which cooperates with who literally don"t want to be left behind---by their interpretation of the scriptures which is sorely lacking.
My very big question!
I'm coming to the dreadful conclusion that none of this will matter. Even if justice is done in this situation... The very next time a Republican is elected President, they will immediately pardon Trump. If he's alive still he will have a disgusting justification moment like Rush Limbaugh had when he was given to that medal. If he's already gone, his legacy will have that asterisk attached.
I'm utterly disgusted with modern US political theater.
The American Democracy is DEAD... The fact that the Judges allowed this Absolute Immunity hearing to be considered is alarming!
This is pathetic and embarrassing 😳 the Supreme Court is no longer supreme...
This is _terrifying_ .
Biden should stop trump he is disqualified
Agreed ! And put that mealy mouthed sauer on top of the list . What’s up with people that have speech issues like that ? Does it come along with the brain 🧠 damage ? Disgusting 🤮 ! Vote 🗳️ blue !
They are beyond a disgrace.
They are Supreme at being extreme.
I totally agree with Ari.. the men on the Supreme Court are the very worst of all.
Me too.
But only the Republicans.
They know no shame.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. THE PARTY OF LIES AND CORRUPTION. NEW VERSION CREATED BY TRUMP
Disgusting, shameful. This SCOTUS lost all credibility.
Not all of them. The women seemed o be holding up the law,not the asinine suggestions of Sauer!
Women protect yourself against tyranny VOTE BLUE
That's why we're in the mess we're in. Because The Blue Team cheated
@@fleetfoot9795 no the orange menace is a crook he saw an opportunity of morons and lead them on called the MAGA now they want to blame everything on the Democrats to bad they caught Trump with his pants down
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@@fleetfoot9795 NO THAT NOT TRUE AT ALL.. AND YOU KNOW IT, YOUR IN DENIAL JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE cult clan.. 👎👎👎👎👎👎
Term limits for Supreme Court Justices!!
Yes, life changes and they should never have life seats.
I couldn't agree more!
Along with it be illegal for them to accept bribes an claim it as gifts 😂
There was Lost of Life doing that January 6th inserection where people Died nothing like that has ever happened that's reason there should be Term limits on Judges and not Life Persitions these Judges want to take sides,but they themselves will Stand before GOD IN JUDGEMENT what they don't understand that GOD was there when all that was going on and those that Stormed the Capital was not Tourist all America seen all this happening on National TV Man will protect Man and turn a Blind eye 👁 these Judges that Trump appointed will take Side that's the reason there is a GOD WHO SITS HIGH AND LOOKS DOWN LOW all will be Judged Man is Worshipping Man instead of GOD they have put GOD aside to help him again there should be Term limits on SCOTUS and not Life positions Loss of Life America those Polices was somebody's Father, Brother, and didn't get to go back home all the Corruption going on in the GOP and the Election was not Stolen GOD knows it and Trump knows it he just couldn't Except Defeat so he Rowled up his Base and fed them the Big BIG LIE and they fell for it Man will go to his grave believing Trump won the but GOD was there throughout all that was going on but Man can keep on believing that Trump won the Votes were still being taleded when DJT came out on Stage claiming Victory he knew he lost but couldn't except Defeat he pushed the Big BIG LIE and they fell for it There should be Term limits on all SCOTUS Justices and not Life Positions. Believe it America 🇺🇸 Believe it.
Educate yourself before sounding ignorant.
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME
- the highest court in the land made a mockery of Justice and in doing so made a mockery of America!
Trump has really made America the laughing stock of the world, the great nation of democracy. Unbelievable!
They did.
Current scotus=Self preservation first, protecting their preferred prez second, Country dead last.😡
@@dcone54321 - you nailed it!
Your president Biden is making the mockery of America and its fools like you who back him
Scotus is corrupt. Thomas shouldn't be sitting due to a blatant conflict of interest. They need mandatory retirement at "x" age. Alito and Thomas gotta go. Aren't they 100 yet.
I agree don't let the SC be for life limit the term
Trump elected judges to turn roe v. Wade. And tried to cut social security. If he gets back in office he will hurt alot of us americans. Especially people on social security. They forever trying to take it away from people who really need it.
Cavanagh, alito, Thomas, Barrett, scalia. We need fair justice. Not currupt
20 yr term limits.
THEY ARE THE CONSERVATIVE MALES TAINTED
RETRO ACTIVE Term limits for SupremeCourt Justices!!
Win elections dodo
I want RULES that say, 'NO, JUDGES HAVE TO BE JUDGED by a jury of people who have actually seen the judge commit actual justice, and those who know whether he's a political poser.'
This is so messy, I never seen this type of bull crap...SHAME.. VOTE BLUE ALL THE WAY 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💯💯💯💯💯💯
@@KujoRealFor what? record inflation, open borders, mandates, arming the Taliban?
4 year limits!
This just can't really be happening. I thought I lived in America. This is not America anymore.
You're now working for the Communist Party, the former Liberal Party of Joe Biden !
Shocking. Watching from Ireland. Horrified that America is even having these arguments
We are too😢
Your country is not important😂😂😂
I'm horrified that these justices are even entertaining the idea a president has total immunity!
Apparently, Americans miss having a monarchy 😂
Curious; does the Israeli lobby run Ireland, too?
I NEVER thought that our Supreme Court could stoop so low. Trump needs to face justice just like the rest of us. What’s wrong with these people?!
Billionaire-owned Extreme Court
I'll get you some tissues.
The best judges trump could buy
Roe v Wade? Wake up! Stop being a sheep!
Face justice for what exactly?
They are trying to delay! Why else would this even be a question.
Please;;;; don’t let this monster in to the White House. Thank you for your efforts.
The whole point is this … no one even a president is above the law. Period.
And we can't let trumpy into office to change that .
I agree. However if the SCOTUS decides that DJT is above the law, then he is above the law. Period.
That is the flaw in the system. If the SCOTUS makes a decision, we have no recourse. No appeals. No further action is possible. Even if there is no legal basis for their decision.
Nixon, Reagan, Both Bushes, Clinton & likely Trump will & have all retired as pampered kings, so... you were saying?
America Supreme Court just handed Putin a major victory
lets hope not🙂
We're 1 election away from being a bald eagle sporting north Korea.
Impeach the cowards, Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh!!!
ABSOLUTELY IMPEACH THESE PARTISAN HACKS ..JUSTICE THOMAS AND ALITO ARE THINGS I CANT SAY !!!!TAINTED ON THE TAKE
Biden needs Republicans to vote to get 60 for impeachment.
Trump is innocent he didn't break the law, however Biden is a criminal President and must get arrested. He started the witch-hunt against Trump!
Biden will not get reelected he is too senile
Stop lying it's Biden who started going after TRUMP!
Thank you , favorite reporters, for these analysis. You help me to understand all of this.
This shouldn’t have been permitted to go to the Supreme Court
Current scotus= self preservation first, protecting their preferred prez second, Country dead last. 😡
I knew exactly what they would do. It has been obvious they were behind him. They will rip all our rights away
And who makes that dictator promoted Democrat bulshit rule
“Trump on Trial” , and the image I see is Thomas and the Former (45)…..!
I feel the same. It's about the dumbest.....
A case asking for full presidential immunity. 🙆🤦
Could it be that the scotus is rigged? These scotus conversations with this sauer dude sound like bad jokes...why are they wasting their time with this bullS###. The lower courts decided well on all of this. Just delay, delay...protecting an alleged criminal😢
It is. Trump appointed 3 of 9 Supreme Court Justices.
Of course, the court is rigged. They are supposed to follow the US Constitution and the law. They are finding ways to help trump. SCOTUS is corrupt.
Helping Trump by delaying so the American people have to vote without knowing all of Trump's crimes
Remind me again, what happens to those who give aid to KNOWN insurrectionists?
Smart to use the word alleged, now you are eligible to sit on a jury.
SCOTUS should ask Trump to cite any law that provides for immunity of any former President from criminal prosecution. If it is non- existent, they should not waste time to enact new laws- the preserve of the Congress.
The question attorneys should ask is if the President ordered the murder of a Supreme Court justice should he be immune from prosecution? Not advocating murder but just saying the question should hit home with the justices on the danger of giving politicians above the law.
It’s criminal how corrupt the court is
They give meaning to the word" criminal". They live by their word
You only feel that way when the court’s don’t go your way😭😭
Your tears taste so sweet 🥲
criminal justice =justice handed out by criminals
@@patrickhayes6425 not true
@patrickhayes6425 Get educated before you just keep following Maga
Lets not forget justice Thomas said the least because his "best friend" is a Trump enabler!
We love justice thomas.
Thomas wife played a role in the JANUARY 6 INSURRECTION.
I wonder how much he is charging for his vote?
@@angelaconley9444Lies
Exactly. Last thing he wants to do is offend his friend trump, and his wife
CREDIBILITY of the Supreme Court
Absolutely questionable
WE THE PEOPLE should be first not one single man who never served for OUR COUNTRY
I can't believe this is going on
What will the SCOTUS do when a president sends a SEAL team after one or more members of the SCOTUS?
You mean like when one of your people was caught trying to 'off' kavanaugh and his family?
@kelperdude well if there's absolute immunity you may want to rethink your smugness.
They are on the same team. They are only window dressing for the facade of democracy. They remain, just no power.
Well look what the current president is doing in participating in a genocide. No respect for international law. Stop acting like president's haven't always behaved like this.
If I was Biden I will Make this Suggestion!
Even if Biden is re-elected, we need a congress that can and would impeach Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh. This country has that power through our vote.
All 5 that lied during their confirmation hearings and then overturned Roe v. Wade deserve impeachment. But how do we get a 2/3 majority in the Senate to convict them?
The very least is that you vote for a congress that makes reform of the SCOTUS possible.
exactly!! VOTE DEMOCRAT ALL THE WAY!!!
Vote Blue All The Way Through . . .
Hope
You're right. I'm enraged. Shame on them.
Extreme court justices,!!!!
If US Laws are not upheld, why are Taxpayers paying for Supreme Court salaries?!
blue city stores have to keep items behind lock and key.
The best judges trump could buy
@kelperdude blue state tax revenue makes red states possible
and pensions.
@@kelperdude Oklahoma City has more crime than any blue city
This is absurd. The reason we have have the 3 branches of government in this country, is to provide checks and balances. No branch and no person has complete immunity from prosecution of wrongdoing!
Clearly republicans either never got that memo or just flat-out ignored it.
Yet they ignore the fact hunter Biden Joe and their cohorts lied, took bribes and continue to gas light the American public.
As a UK citizen it’s truly bizarre to hear this coming out of America in 2024. If Trump gets reelected in November that will have massive implications for the world, especially if he gives Putin his blessing to march is armies across Europe.
Why are WE even allowing the supreme Court to decide if the president of the United States of America the chance to be granted full immunity when in office ? That would make him a king. The citizens have failed this country!
It's high time to clean up SCOTUS!
How do we get rid of these clowns???
Make sure you do not vote for ANY Republican for Congress. We must have DEM control of the House, and 2/3 DEM majority in the Senate because the Republicans have proven they are incapable of putting the country before their political ambitions. It's not about Dem policy vs GOP policy, it's about one party that REFUSES to fulfill their oaths and insist on protecting corrupt SCOTUS judges.
Since they're clearly UNWILLING to police themselves.
It makes me want to vomit 🤢. Justice Thomas should be questioned about the facts of his wife’s actions on J6!!!
And his own actions regarding to Anita Hill, past behaviour as an indication of future performance.
He shouldn't even be there.He should recruit himself because she wanted them quote unquote to release the crackin
Then the intelligence agencies would have to reveal how many undercover agents were there agitating and instigating on Jan 6th
May be you should vomit, because of the comments from the Dems are all verbal Diarrhea!
Yes, his actions were despicable then and he should have lost his position and gone to prison. Now, with the gifting from fascist billionaires, he is surely a danger to the country. @@Lola-mt1ne
If the Supreme Court makes a new law that makes a president immune from criminal prosecution, why stop there? Why not make the vice president immune? Why not give all the justices immunity? Why not give senators and congress persons immunity?
Immunity only applies for acts done in the course of duty. He is not immune if it is outside of his course of duty. Immunity also says if is a law that is violated he is not immune. Official act does not mean an act done as President. Official act means if it is in his job description or line of duty. The Presdent has a criteria of what his job description is. If he acted outside of that he is not immune.
It is a shame we are debating something so obvious. It is scary actually.A crime is a crime.
It seems like those in the SCOTUS are the ones committing the biggest crimes now.
We need to pass some new laws.Laws that make it possible to get rid of and prosecute Traitors disguised as Supreme Court Justices
Good one….
They are too deep into the constitution, correcting the Supreme Court would require a constitutional convention.
@@Zyworski Incorrect. SCOTUS expanded its powers through attrition and evolution.
@@stephenrioux6821 If by evolution you mean common law I can understand that but when you say attrition I am lost.
That the court took up the article is criminal to begin with !!😢😢
Listen here Lawrence, having the fate of our country riding on the back of an 80 year old man is not very reassuring. The corruption of the judiciary at the highest levels is truly terrifying and something needs to be done to prevent us from ever being in this position again.
Absolute power corrupt Absolutely. SCOTUS
Forget the assassination of a rival -- talk about the assassination of a justice. Tell me again on what it depends for this to be possible. To make POTUS immune
Tell me why Kagan sounds drunk.
Biden is doing that already through Title 09 and and additional 61 billion to Zelensky. What is your point?
@@maryhalverson5713tell me why the male members of the Court sounded like Prime Enablers of Trumps crime spree.
By ALWAYS kissing the ring of Trump!
@@cherpiette4216How low will they go to kiss Trump’s ring?
If they let this fool get off i through there is no judicial system
Term limits will come due to the Robert’s Court.
We are living the darkest, sickest dystopia and neither my mind nor heart can take it.
I wanna get off uncle Sam's wild ride 😂
I don’t. Hate anyone. but I really am scared that you young people will believe all his lies and vote for him because he only cares about himself and his rich friends who don’t pay taxes so please don’t he doesn’t care about you no matter what he says he belongs in jail.Remember when he told us to drink bleach so we could get. better from COVID’ and then he got it . He is a criminal and should be prosecuted and put in jail right now and no 😢 business being near the White House you are too young to know better. The man is crazy.!
If you stay home and vote you are going to give Trump the vote so please don’t let him near the White house. I. Pray that you don’t let him near the White House
@@deborahlangis2848 Why would you make an assumption of even considering "staying home" when my comment in no way speaks to that? In fact, the inference is quite the opposite.
Alito & Thomas need to go. And Thomas is so corrupt and so arrogant that he still hasn't recused, even though his wife was a coup plotter. Disgusting!
Charge her and convict her, and then see what he says
@@lyndabeam2622 He still wouldn't recuse!
And he never will being he is ungrateful thinks he’s white immigrant dreamer.
I think there are 3 female justices that definitely do not belong there. Incompetent Commies. But then again, I guess they are there to meet a quote.
@@lyndabeam2622hey he’d make a deal to not let her get prison I’m sure😜😳
This defense counsel is absolutely crazy. 😂
The best judicial system that money can buy.
DESPICABLE SCOTUS ~~ term limits and much more are warranted.
The can be impeached now
@@katethomas4495💯 The only Justice to be impeached was Associate Justice Samuel Chase in 1805.
BUT, many votes require a number of votes to IMPEACH a Justice must occur.
A conviction requires a two-thirds vote in the Senate. The individual may or may not then stand trial in a criminal court as well, before a jury of his peers.
🇺🇲AMERICAN DEMOCRACY is presently at a critical state. All Democratic NATIONS will be at risk if DEMOCRACY is not maintained in the 🇺🇲USA.
@@katethomas4495 Yes 💯%,
The only Justice to be impeached was Associate Justice Samuel Chase in 1805.
BUT, many votes require a number of votes to IMPEACH a Justice must occur.
A conviction requires a two-thirds vote in the Senate. The individual may or may not then stand trial in a criminal court as well, before a jury of his peers.
@@katethomas4495the current Congress won’t impeach them. That won’t happen until the Democrats have a substantial majority.
Federal ballot question: should SCOTUS be expanded for 1 SC Justice for each Feceral District. Make it harder for people like Trump to use it for his personal agenda. Doesn't mean loading it. Make them tell the truth. Or impeach Justices who lied at Congressional Hearings.
To not know if selling secrets is an official act makes his lawyer sound bad
Trump's 2nd day in the Oval: "Hey general, take some trucks and soldiers down to Fort Knox. Load the trucks up with as much gold as they can carry, ....then ship the gold bars to my dacha in Moscow. Don't worry, I can do whatever I want. Next week, we're going to have a giant yard sale on the WH lawn - and sell all the paintings and tableware from this old house. My Caymen Island bank account will swell."
and that is EXACTLY what Trump has done and why he is seeking immunity.
We need accountability for the Supreme Court! Thomas didn't recuse himself. This is blatant favoritism by the conservative justices. We don't have Kings in the USA. Republicans need to elect better representatives. I am ashamed on their behalf.
I agree with everything but your last line unless you voted them into office.
I hope they can't sleep despicable!😢
How how are we even discussing this on the level of Supreme Court? This country is turning to crap.😢
"turning", it is.
Listening to smug, crooked politicians in black robes, preening while they float their twisted hypothetical nonsense through the rarefied ether where only great minds may tread, is making me sick!
Their job is to rule as narrowly as possible on THE FACTS OF THE CASE BEFORE THEM! Alito is terrified to go near the facts of the case before them because poor tRUmpy is feeling persecuted! Wahh-hah...!
His crimes are miles away from official duties, etc. The right thing to do is not even hear this case since the Colorado Supremes already got it exactly right!
The shameless corruption at work on this bench is disgusting & unconscionable. Are they afraid that the rule of law will control the course of events?
Leonard Leo might scold them?
Are they afraid their bribes will dry up?
Sorry, boys: In this case, reality has a decidedly liberal bias! Fact!
MAGA😅
It has been all of my life. Basically it started around the time Eisenhower spoke to the public about the dangers of the military/industrial complex. Running dog fascism in the USA is just the logical conclusion.
Do not give up. Vote Biden in office again.
The government should work for the working people!! Not the very rich ! What a disgusting world we live in !!
That’s why you vote blue in every election 😂
@@bonniejosavland3227 That's why it's important to very carefully vet the candidates to make sure they are respectful of the law and the constitution, who have some history in lower government of doing a decent job regardless of party. Right now voting blue is far better but if one must vote red then at least be very careful that they follow the laws.
@@afry6400 TOTALLY AGREE - WE MUST KNOW WHO WE ARE VOTING FOR. AND, IN THIS DAY AND AGE WE DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON PROPAGANDA, WE CAN RESEARCH ON OUR OWN. KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR & ARE THE GOING TO UPHOLD THE LAW‼‼‼
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@Life-Dreaming real scholarly research, not sound bites, social media, and misleading headlines.
Exactly 💯% true
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It’s nice to see you Rachel I love your work thank you ❤
Is everything really for sale in America? Has money and status corrupted everything that is not nailed down? I am horrified and angry and helpless - poor Americans
Yes to Both q.s
No joke the Republican party beats they chests proudly saying they are the party of the Constitution... everything they do is against the Constitution. Eventuality Republicans will want to use a different flag.
Murica will get what it has earned!
I’m 78, a straight if mere man. I’ve had a pretty good life.
I’m embarrassed by the stupidity and obvious lack of ethics/character displayed by too many politicians AND the male members of SCOTUS.
🙁
That is why President Biden is the only choice for President at this time. Anyone smarter or better would have a job making ten times the amount he makes. Also, Biden is president because he is a good and honorable man who means it when he says he will defend the American people and the Constitution. I am sure he would rather retire but he cares too much for US to do so. We all need to stand beside him!
I'm 72. I became an American citizen (from Danish) exactly 50 yrs ago. It saddens me to see the USA go downhill, with a corrupt majority in the S.Court, and guns everywhere.
paulwilsom2542
TY. If we vote blue up and down the ticket and gain control of both chambers and the executive branch we can start impeaching these bought and paid for judges!
They're talking about while the president is in office. The Constitution clearly spells out the process of prosecution while in office. The president must be removed from office through impeachment before being criminally prosecuted. It's simple.
The male supreme court justices have no respect for our constitution or democracy BUT WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE PARTISAN HACKS WITH THE LOWEST APPROVAL RATINGS IN OUR 250 YEARS. SHAME ON THE TAINTED ON THE DOLE SC MALES.
Why does Rachel talking hypothetical
I just want to say thanks to this panel for bringing the straight truth you're doing a great job and you might even be saving America. Let me rephrase that, you are saving America America!!!
This is absolutely the smartest, most insightful group of commentators on television today. I am continuously impressed by them.
Take a look at MTN/Midas Touch Network and you won't be that impressed with this MSNBC group.
Agreed. I only wish they would let Ari speak more hahaha
A very good mix of talents too, they make a good team.
Hahahahahahahahaha they lie literally every single show 😂😂😂😂
@@nickilachappell3705how so? What information are you using to determine the "lies" are being told?
How the heck can you expect jurors to leave their prejudices at the door of the court when the Justices on the highest court of the land appear quite unable to do the same.
Ain't that the truth.
The judge’s daughter in the hush trial will make millions IF Trump is convicted. And the judge donated to the Biden campaign!
I used to be never Trumper but can’t wait to vote Trump 2024!
He should not be able to stand outside of court & say the same stupid things every time!! He is doing the same thing when he lost the election… if you repeat something over & over & over, people will believe the statement! Ugh…. He knew he lost.!!!!
The rest of the world could see this coming from your "supreme" court, why are Americans so shocked ? Stand up face the corner of the room and recite the pledge and it'll all be fine.
SCOTUS is a major disappointment, a bunch of old men who should be put out to pasture. Mitch, you had too much to do with this SCOTUS mess, not the legacy anyone should want.
Sir SCOTUS....like this nonsense with persecuting Trump, is the result of Democrats having short term vision and punching themselves squarely in the nuts. Under Bush, Democrats refused to approve judges so Republican threatened to remove the long standing 60 vote requirement. Democrats whined and cried like children about it so naturally, Republicans backed down. Under Obama, Republicans refused to appoint judges...and Democrats DID remove the 60 vote requirement (aka "the Nuclear Option"). The pendulum swings and that decision is what allowed Republicans appoint the justices they did and why judges are now more polarized and less centrist. Good job. Wait until Democrats realize that THEIR candidate can...and hopefully will, be subjected to ridiculous local and state persecution for election interference and character assassination in partisan courts.
Did the SCOTUS absolutely FORGET that they are the Tip Top of Law Enforcement?? AND yet now they WANT to appoint someone Above their Own laws?? Insane!
Agree! Current scotus=self preservation first, protecting their preferred prez second, Country dead last. 😡
I think the not-so-supreme court is doing several things...
1. They are twisting themselves into knots to assist trump and STALL.
2. They are causing a delay such that some of trump's trials cannot/will not occur before the 2024 election.
3. By not handing down a decision before the prez election, they are rolling the dice to see which candidate wins.
4. If Biden wins, they will rule against immunity because they don't want anyone that is not trump to have immunity. They will TRY to pass this off as being non-partisan in an effort to regain some of the credibility they have lost (don't be fooled! It would be just a BS show, until the next R is elected).
5. If trump wins, only then will they grant prez immunity to forever protect their favored prez.
This tactic is a win-win for the scotus first and foremost, because unfortunately, that is ALL they care about first. Promoting/protecting/saving an R pres is secondary.
That's what a corrupt, immoral, unethical, biased, agenda-based, all-powerful body with seemingly unchecked power and lifetime appointments.
He stole the Supreme Court from Obama
It's majority men but minority are women. Mitch McConnell is not a Supreme Court Judge.
It is an absolute disgrace that (a) the trial (already having taken far too long) is being delayed for this nonsense !! and (b) that the "Supreme (sic) Court" judges seem to be spending time talking hypotheticals when there is plenty or REAL CRIMES that need to be considered !!
you mean like democrats using ukraine as a slush fund with our tax dollars and destroying our economy?
if you are going to cry in the youtube comments at least cry about everyone committing crimes and not just the ones you were trained to hate. poor puppy.
Those hypotheticals were real crimes trump committed. Or tried to commit
They should have rejected this case from the start.
If there's a positive from this clown show, is that we know Trump's motives through his lawyer. Voters should take this to heart and consider if they want a president who wants to dismantle democracy and the rule of law or one who's committed to equality and fairness.
It’s an absolute disgrace Supreme Court judges can accept hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of “gifts” from wealthy benefactors who have had cases before the court still rule on the highest court in the country.
Can someone please, please get Mr. Sauer a glass of water? It's painful just to listen to him.
OMG. Talk about a fallen, broken country. Speechless.
im sorry but my ears cant wrap around hearing this . i think we need to impeach and remove these sociopath MAGA supreme court judges.
Sure is. You can't trust a legal body that has a Dalek making up its advisory board.
Yes indeed,we are watching are country go down. 😢🙏🌊💙🇺🇲
@@tammiediaz8354
That’s why we have to vote for Trump
@cliffjones9882
So you really want to live in a dictatorship with no freedoms and no right to vote? This is what Trump would establish.. He made it clear.
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What if the hypothetical would have been presented to the supreme court not as "killing political rivals" but as "killing corrupt supreme court justices"... would they still grant immunity?
I think that would have had good impact stated like that. That is putting it right perspective.
Murder is a murder.
A killing is a killing.
I would say that is implied and well understood. If these hacks had guts they would just rule in the orange dictator's favor and hope for Biden to be too decent to send out henchmen for them, the MAGA swamp rats, and of course orange Mussolini himself. (IMHO, Biden should just go for it in his official capacity as protector of the Constitution)
But the repugnicans on the sub-preme court are cowards and want to play the delay game until after the election so they know whether their master is back in power or not...
Exactly 💯 % true
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perfect!!
The only time a republican is truly pro-life, is when the life on the line is their own.
What Happened To WE THE PEOPLE ????
I LOVE listening to MSDNC every once in a while. It's great entertainment 🤪
This whole thing is psychotic. The fact that the court is playing along with this makes me sad for our country. LOCK HIM UP
And fearful for the future !
He must be cut from the same cloth. He can play intelligent and stupid in the same sentence.
And how about, "Lock THEM up!" A little catharsis here, maybe?
I agree I'm tired 😴 of all this bull just lock him up every y day more bull I'm cold it's a witch hunt don't worry dumpster where ur going it's nice and 🔥🥵 just lock 🔒 him up already sick of letting the 🤡😈 whining 🤬🤬🤬 vote blue 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💯🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊👍 Biden!
No, lock up this sick slimy excuse for a woman.
Trump; "I can't do my job as a corrupt president, if I'm subject to 'checks and balances' and Laws!"
Has the Supreme Court gone crazy? What about justice!
Absolutely shameful !!!!
As a Canadian, I feel your frustration. It's mind boggling.
Shouldn't our Supreme Court be smarter than this??? FFS, SMGDH!
Magas are not smart
That’s what’s so scary; they are! They know exactly what they’re doing. They intend exactly what they’re doing. They are fascists; truly.
@@commentator-tl9h Oh brother. 🙄 "Fascists!" "White Supremicists!" "Racists!" The American people are not stupid. No one believes you all anymore.
"Women and minorities encouraged to apply."
They're 8 billion times smarter than you.
This is all so DISGUSTING...How is this even happening??
Chris hit the nail on the head 🤌🤌
Thank you, Ari. Very well said. It is very sad day.
The sheer idiocy of this even being presented to the Supreme Court; and the stupendous fact that they actually accepted to hear this case ?!?
Sure is. You can't trust a legal body that has a Dalek making up its advisory board.
I'll get you some tissues.
@@kelperdude
Remember this when Biden is given immunity and starts rounding up right wing propogandists.
you do realize that if Trump has immunity then so does Biden?
The Supreme-less court is a big FARCE ! I am sure they will give themselves the freedom to do whatever they want including taking money from BILLIONAIRES to protect them when they act in a lawless manner thereby allowing the said billionaires to BUY a SUPREME-LESS JUDGE OR 2 OR 3 when they commit crimes. or fail to prosecute criminals !
Saeur is a prime example of why people hate lawyers.
I have had NO respect for the Court since the Citizens United decision.
I am surprised that the SC did not ask; If a President did not like or agree with a ruling of the SC and decided to assassinate one or more SC Justices, would that be considered an Official Act and therefore be immune from prosecution? The idea that a President could eliminate the highest court of the land to elicit a preffered decision should have made then reject absolute immunity.
This is why the SCOTUS justices should not be judges for life.
They should not be judges at all, much less "justices" on the Supreme Court.
They are heading towards irrelevance
If the supreme court decides that the president is not responsible for his actions, Biden can throw Trump in jail because Trump is a fraud or face death for Trump's irresponsible handling of Covid
Exactly I don't understand why judges don't have to retire at 70 that is still longer than the public have to retire at an earlier age. Yes they are supposed to have more experience about the law but that is not a given, looking at Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch four judges who have been on the supreme court for over a decade. Why are they allowed to be there so long? This court should be changed by at least 50% giving new presidents the chance to have a court that might have a similar outlook as that president.
As we can all see that Trump loaded this supreme court to give him the chance NOW to be given immunity for presidential acts. His lawyer has been arguing for Trump to be able to assassinate his political opponents who don't agree with him. That could mean that if he doesn't like them or even agree with them they would be killed. It would also mean that he could take over the country without an election.
Either trump get immunity and thereby Biden can order the military on Trump and Clarence Thomas, or Trump is not Immune... It's a win win for democraty.
I can’t believe so out of control
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Truly amazing what’s happening right before our eyes here. 😑 I’m losing all faith in our judicial system. This is a disgrace. 😣
Agreed 💯
Oh because they held up the the law surprisingly
You don't like things to go the way they are supposed to! Everyone knows all these charges are bs! In every court they are all very corrupt! The Supreme Court was the only ones that wernt corrupt
Do you have a family? Do u have Friends with children? Have you been to the grocery store lately if you had 4 or 5 mouths to feed daily Do u realize how expensive that has gotten I have a wife an two young sons we spent 300$ a week on grocery and its still not enough we still sacrifice alot in order to make things work so people really don't have a clue
Trump is American families only way to prosperity
Rachel, yes you just answered my question. The Supreme Court doesn’t want to make the call on this because some of them were in on the insurrection on Jan 6th
What country is this now?
Where did these attorneys come to to rely on all these people that need to be barred from practicing law
What is this Fitzgerald act? This lawyer is talking out of the side of his mouth.Ridiculous argument.
This country is supposed to be a nation of laws and 'checks & balances'... What Trump is trying to do, is remove those checks & balances