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  • @SSGTStryker
    @SSGTStryker 2 роки тому +21

    As a Finnish-American and fairly retired US Air Force NCO, I’d join the Finnish Air Force in a heartbeat!

  • @paanikki
    @paanikki 5 років тому +54

    An interesting fact: Because Finland was among the axis countries in the WW2, the former allied countries dictated many restrictions on our military capability that became a part of the Paris peace treaty of 1947. One of these restrictions was the maximum amount of 60 "battle planes" (fighters and bombers).
    During the cold war, the total amount of Saab 35 Draken and MIG21bis planes never exceeded the limit of 60. However, Finland (more or less secretly) trained more Draken pilots than what could ever have been needed for the 50 planes. Simultaneously, Sweden kept significantly more Drakens in Swedish Air Force bases than the Swedish Air Force would have needed. Those planes would have been used by the Finnish Air Force in case Finland would be under attack by the Soviet Union.

    • @valenrn8657
      @valenrn8657 4 роки тому +5

      FYI, Finland has 62 F/A-18C/D and 16 Hawk jet fighters. Hawk trainer jetfighter can be armed.
      60 first-line fighter aircraft by the Paris Peace Treaty of 1947 was nullified during the 1990s by the break-up of the Soviet Union.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Hawk#cite_note-46
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Peace_Treaties,_1947
      In 1990 Finland unilaterally cancelled the restrictions the treaty had placed on its military.

    • @herptek
      @herptek Рік тому +1

      Technically not axis, but you have to do something right to survive this side of the divide.

  • @TheJoneko
    @TheJoneko 5 років тому +148

    Finns don`t need the best eguipment. In WW2 Finns gained kill ratio 32:1 using Brewster F2 Buffalos. The highest kill ratio ever!

    • @werre2
      @werre2 5 років тому +18

      Finland had Brewster 239s, not F2s. They had Revi style sights, domestic weapons and were lighter than the US F2 naval versions.

    • @tuomopoika
      @tuomopoika 5 років тому +4

      Also Finnish pilots didn't face zeros with brewsters.

    • @dentistlinguist6569
      @dentistlinguist6569 5 років тому +12

      It's a tragedy. Stalin sent a lot of Ukrainians against us. They were forced to fight another man's war.

    • @JA-mg8cn
      @JA-mg8cn 5 років тому +22

      @@wolfdog5981 yhtä lailla jenkeissä, venäjällä ja muualla "jauhetaan" heidän omista sankareistaan. Totta kai ihmiset on ylpeitä oman maansa historiasta, se on iha tervettä ja normaalia ja se inspiroi myöhempiä sukupolvia.
      Mitä Venäjään tulee, se ei oo ollenkaan yhtä vahva ja pelottava kui mitä herrat lännessä meitä pelottelee. Oliko Tsetseenian sodat ja Georgian sota mitään ilomarssia venäjälle? Miksei ryssä ole jo harpannu Ukrainan läpi Puolan ja Romanian rajalle? Ja Venäjä tietää, että sen talous ottaa pahan osuman jos se käy kalliiseen sotaan Suomea vastaan.
      Puolustusvoimien tarkotus ei ole voittaa. Sen tarkoitus on aiheuttaa viholliselle niin isot tappiot, että sen sotatoimista tulee hyödytöntä.

    • @HeroesNights
      @HeroesNights 5 років тому +6

      They used planes that the rest of the world didn’t want, it’s amazing.

  • @werre2
    @werre2 5 років тому +130

    Finland didn't have any Bf-109s in the Winter War. They were used in the latter half of the Continuation War.

    • @arthurmorgan384
      @arthurmorgan384 5 років тому +6

      Totta

    • @senint
      @senint 4 роки тому +2

      Spörde Spyrdenstein Exactly, aivan niin! It is laughable to spot mistakes like this from outside Finland sources (like Japanese take of Finns having StuGs in Winter War). 😂

    • @patriot52realfinn22
      @patriot52realfinn22 4 роки тому +2

      Young guys! You know nothing about finnish air force history or finnish war history in general.

    • @FumbleFusion
      @FumbleFusion 4 роки тому +2

      @@patriot52realfinn22 Tottahan tuo puhuu, että en tiiä mitä sää höpiset?

    • @johnraina4828
      @johnraina4828 4 роки тому

      @@FumbleFusion turpa kinni

  • @TheRogueElement
    @TheRogueElement 5 років тому +91

    F-18 Hornet.. the Falcon is the F-16.

    • @lintu25
      @lintu25 5 років тому +1

      F-18 in Finland is special shit... they are nothing what you know about F-18's
      Find that out

    • @Hairysteed
      @Hairysteed 5 років тому +2

      I was actually a bit bummed that we didn't choose the F-16 because it was my favorite fighter back then when I was a 12-year old kid.
      Still am, because it's the most widely used 4th gen. fighter and support and updates are better guaranteed. A good example is how FAF has been willing, but unable to acquire more two-seater F/A-18D:s (Remember the "Frankenplane" constructed out of two damaged single seaters and a Canadian CF-18B front fuselage?)
      Still, I guess McDonnell Douglas gave us a better deal with the Hornets than General Dynamics did with the Falcons. F/A-18 is a good fighter!

    • @1985Viggen
      @1985Viggen 5 років тому +1

      F 18 Mustang, F 16 Raptor ;)

    • @RikhardLorenzo
      @RikhardLorenzo 5 років тому +1

      @@Hairysteed The F-16 offer to Finland was actually cheaper than the Hornet. But the Hornet was seen as a better fit for the Finnish Airforce than the F-16. If you Google it in Finnish you can read about the whole purchase process and what the price was for each candidate. Funnily MiG-29 would have been the most expensive option.

    • @KingKong-os7iv
      @KingKong-os7iv 5 років тому

      The F-18 X-wing

  • @krippan849
    @krippan849 5 років тому +49

    It is called Ilmavoimat-Flygvapnet because there are 2 official languages in Finland. Those are Finnish and Swedish. It has nothing to do with the fact that the Finnish airforce trains with Sweden!!

    • @krippan849
      @krippan849 5 років тому +9

      I am still not convinced you understand. Finland as a country has 2 languages so everything has a name in both languages. The training with the sweds are done in English according to NATO standard.

  • @sebastiantiainen2749
    @sebastiantiainen2749 5 років тому +123

    You are mixing the winter war and continuation war with those planes you mentioned. Finland had no allies in the winter war but we did receive alot of help from others. But it meant that we didn't have fighters like Brewsters, Bf109s or hurricanes. We had mostly obsolete planes in the form of Gloster Gladiators and Fokker D.XXIs. The newest planes we had were British Bristol Blenheim bombers. That's why the ratio of aerial victories to planes lost was so impressive by the FAF

    • @mikkorenvall428
      @mikkorenvall428 5 років тому +13

      That's right. And most of Winter War aircrafts came as a donation/gift, so that's why there were so many type of aircrafts at that time. And those Brewsters and Hurricanes were mainly bought during peace time 1940-1941, and used in the Continuation War 1941-1944. And since England and France were repellent to aid our war effort against Soviets, because they were already allied, Finland became ally with Germany. That's how we got the Messerschmitts 1943.

    • @openallnight2113
      @openallnight2113 5 років тому +9

      We, sure as hell, were not allied with Germany during the Winter War, for crying out loud! The Russians were! And we barely had an Air Force. The best planes we had were already obsolete Fokkers.

    • @p.h2
      @p.h2 5 років тому +2

      One very important German plane type used in Finland which was missing from the video was Ju-88 bomber used during the later part of the Continuation War.

    • @verneripirttisalo7793
      @verneripirttisalo7793 5 років тому +2

      Kyllä Suomella oli bf sataysejä mersuja siis ja myöskin brewstereitä oli myös

    • @mikkorenvall428
      @mikkorenvall428 5 років тому +6

      Not in Winter War, but in Continuation War we did join forces with Germany, since we could not get help from anywhere else...

  • @davidcomrade7335
    @davidcomrade7335 5 років тому +34

    Long live Finland from Hungary!
    🇫🇮🇭🇺

    • @jfallen8548
      @jfallen8548 4 роки тому +1

      Kádas Dávid thnks bro..we love u too

    • @thomasnikkola5600
      @thomasnikkola5600 4 роки тому

      Finn and Hungarian same people!

    • @ristusnotta1653
      @ristusnotta1653 3 роки тому +3

      @@thomasnikkola5600 not same people not even close but our languages are really far away cousins :D

  • @gruntscrewdriver3261
    @gruntscrewdriver3261 5 років тому +51

    Thank you! finally somebody explained what our blue swastika means

    • @longinusc
      @longinusc 4 роки тому +19

      I hate the people who accuse us Finns for being nazis because of our swastikas.

    • @nilsgarberis
      @nilsgarberis 4 роки тому +6

      I am half German, half Latvian, and in Latvia it is also considered a sign of luck and strength! In my opinion we should change the way we see such signs

    • @suokkos
      @suokkos 4 роки тому +6

      There is important point that everyone also misses. It is a different symbol. Rotated and mirrored makes it different.

    • @senint
      @senint 4 роки тому +1

      Aye, it is good to hear folk outside Finland pointing this fact outside of Finnish few museums.

    • @anttityykila9384
      @anttityykila9384 4 роки тому +5

      We had that swastika on viking age weapons, like swords.

  • @hannumononen6345
    @hannumononen6345 5 років тому +52

    Hi, and thank you very much for giving your attention to Suomen Ilmavoimat, the Finnish Air Force. However, I would like to correct some information given in the narrative - my comments may be repeating what others have already pointed out, hopefully I am not nitpicking too much.
    Thank you for explaining correctly the historical background of the former national insignia of Ilmavoimat 1918-1945, the blue swastika. Like you said, it has nothing to do with the Nazis - when the Swedish Count Eric von Rosen donated the first aircraft to the FAF, it had his good luck sign, the swastika, painted on its wings as the plane arrived at the city of Vaasa on 6 March 1918. At that time, THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE NAZI ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH - not even Adolf Hitler himself had thought of his national socialist ideology or founded a party of his own in Germany by then. The swastika was adopted as a heraldic symbol for our Air Force since then, and to respect this non-nazi military tradition, it still appears in flags of the FAF (like in the photo of a parade) and shoulder epaulet badges of some FAF units.
    The Finnish Air Force commonly uses its motto in the Latin language: Qualitas Potentia Nostra.
    During the Winter War (30 November 1939 - 13 March 1940) Germany was an ally with Stalin's Soviet Union rather than Finland - because they had made the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (which in its secret additional protocol divided Northeastern Europe into spheres of interest that allocated Finland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania to the USSR and Poland to Germany, except Eastern Poland to the USSR). Therefore, Nazi Germany actively resisted the Finnish effort of self-defence after the unprovoked and illegal attack of the Soviet Union, with the aim of conquering the whole country. Finnish politicians had for years neglected arming the national defence, so the only decent fighter aircraft in 1939 were Fokker D.XXI's purchased from the Netherlands and built in Finland under their license. The cowardly Soviet attack of 170.6 million people against 3.8 million infuriated most civilized people of the time with a sense of justice, thus Mussolini sold (did not donate) Fiat G.50 Freccia fighters for Finland. Those were transported by rail in crates to Stettin, Germany, for further shipment - which the Nazis never allowed. Thus the Fiats had to be transported back by rail to Italy, loaded at the port of Livorno and shipped to Gothenburg, Sweden, to be put together and test-flown there before flying them to Finland. This delay cost an unknown number of Finnish civilian lives, as the Soviets were keen on terror bombing centres of civilian population.
    Air defence of Northern Finland was carried out solely by a Squadron of Swedish volunteers, the F19 with its Gloster Gladiators and Hawker Hart light bombers. All the precious Finnish fighters had to protect Southern Finland. American Brewster Buffalos were sold to Finland for the nominal price of $ 1 a piece, but they didn't make it in time for the Winter War.
    Stalin's USSR clearly showed the Moscow peace of 12 March 1940 was not meant permanent. Threatening rhetoric, demands of control of the Petsamo nickel mines, interference in Finnish domestic matters and shooting down of the unarmed passenger airliner Ju-52 Kaleva on its regular scheduled flight from Tallinn to Helsinki (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaleva_(airplane)) gave their loud and clear message. Negotiations on Finland's fate between Molotov, Hitler, and Ribbentrop in Berlin on 12-13 November 1940 really speak for themselves: www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/Hitler-Molotov%20Meetings.htm
    The second round in the match USSR vs. Finland was thus inevitable, and the only one to grant Finland security guarantees was Germany. Those guarantees came with a price tag: Finland's participation in Operation Barbarossa. German offensive was launched 22 June 1941, after which Soviet artillery opened fire and Soviet air force bombed 15 Finnish cities and municipalities on 25 June - which was taken as declaration of war, what is called in Finland the Continuation War. Co-belligerence (fighting the same enemy) with Germany was not a political but military solution for Finland.
    In the Continuation War, Finnish pilots excelled with the Brewster Buffalo, naming it "Pearl of the Sky", and achieving a kill ratio of 32:1. The first line fighter was later the Messerschmitt Bf-109 G2 and G6. Like the video tells, there was a mixture of other aircraft from various origins in the FAF, like Morane Saulnier, Hawker Hurricane, even Polikarpov I-16. Bombers included Bristol Blenheim Mark I and Mark IV, Junkers Ju-88, and Dornier Do-17 plus Tupolev SB-3's from the adversary. Please check this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_aces_from_Finland
    Regarding post-war years, it is a false statement that De Havilland Vampires were "given" or "donated" to Finland - they were bought with hard-earned tax money, and as obsolete, even then regarded trainers rather than fighters. The cheapest option also determined the acquisition of Folland Gnat, a "lightweight fighter" which the RAF itself never operated as combat aircraft -again, bought, not donated to Finland!
    The Soviet MiG-21 F-13 was indeed the first combat aircraft of the post-war FAF that counted as "contemporary" for its performance. Besides the Swedish Saab J-35 Draken, the MiG-21 bis version was an "all-weather" interceptor.
    The F-18 is Hornet, not "Falcon" (= F-16). It is due to be replaced during the 2020's by a successor, currently being referred to with the temporary working name "HX". At 9:31 of the video, a visiting Mirage fighter appears - not operated by the FAF.
    Four AF bases are mentioned, but despite that it can be seen from some clips in the video, the idea of dispersed fighter force deployed on stretches of highway are part of the wartime doctrine of the FAF. In Geographical terms, Finland is a vast country to be defended with just 64 multirole fighters. The weather conditions are often quite challenging in Finland, so the pilots really have a tall order on them and need sufficient training to live up Qualitas Potentia Nostra.

    • @hilliscool
      @hilliscool 5 років тому

      Ootko Suomesta

    • @hannumononen6345
      @hannumononen6345 5 років тому +2

      @@hilliscool Jo vain.

    • @simonnilsson9401
      @simonnilsson9401 5 років тому

      You have a lot of time

    • @bige1106
      @bige1106 4 роки тому +4

      @@simonnilsson9401 he just wants to set the record straight, a reckoning if you will, way too many pro-soviet types trying to push their alt-history and they try to make Finns nazis, and Finns never were, it would be like trying to call Americas commies since they were allied with the ussr, so Finns not nazi and Americans not commie, well not all Americans, as that is debatable in recent times unfortunately.

    • @hunterxsimple3821
      @hunterxsimple3821 3 роки тому

      @@hannumononen6345 hetkinen.... VAIN 64 HÄVITTÄJÄÄ?! Va odotetaanko sen luvun kasvavan uuden hävittäjien saapuessa? Onko sitä päätöstä tulevista hävittäjistä ees tehty vielä?

  • @elliotnordling2835
    @elliotnordling2835 5 років тому +57

    As a finn i really like how much finnish stuff you make:)

  • @Hairysteed
    @Hairysteed 5 років тому +15

    - "Winter war evolved into the continuation war" - No it didn't! They were two separate wars with more than a year long peace between them
    - Exactly how do you pronounce "Gnat"? You know... Gnat, like the insect?
    -"...semi-active radar homing missiles..." *shows picture of a passive infrared homing missile*
    - "F-18 Falcon" *Facepalm*

    • @werre2
      @werre2 5 років тому

      They were 2 parts of the same conflict. Come on.

    • @bige1106
      @bige1106 4 роки тому

      They are most assuredly related. After the Winter War over 400,000 Karelians were displaced, the Continuation War was to take back the illegally stolen lands and many of the Karelians, including my family moving back to rebuild. The other part of the Continuation War was to set up defensive lines for the inevitable strike by Stalin as Stalin was already planning to go back into Finland for complete annexation of Finland. The soviets did start aggression in the Continuation War by bombing Finnish cities, of course the Finns did use this as a pretext to officially declare war on the ussr.

  • @Humppatunkki
    @Humppatunkki 5 років тому +11

    It has to be noted, that before Hitler "owned" the Svastika for his horrible, terrifying regime, it was a rather neutral symbol, so please... Don't read too much into some pictures from 1917, the symbol had a completely different meaning back then. So, as a very open-minded, not in any way racist Finn, I really do want you guys to understand, that all of the modern history didn't start with the World War II. There was even the World War I. Surprisingly.

    • @thelonewolf9866
      @thelonewolf9866 5 років тому +1

      Yeah. and if a time travelling roman came to the present and saluted his emperor he'd be arrested for nazism...

    • @ThomasVanhala
      @ThomasVanhala 5 років тому

      @@thelonewolf9866 apparently the romen salute was a later construct by painters during the the Nationalism in the 1700 and 1800, it also put horns on viking helmets.

  • @altonwilliams7117
    @altonwilliams7117 4 роки тому +6

    Pilots from Finland 🇫🇮 in the F-18 Hornet put on amazing demos in air shows.

  • @poppomatic
    @poppomatic 5 років тому +8

    I have birthday same day as the FaF and I actually do celebrate it with a salute to the lost fighter aces in WWII

  • @villepore7013
    @villepore7013 5 років тому +21

    Did you know that Finnish fighter ace Ilmari Juutilainen got most fighter kills out of all non-German pilots?

    • @onelyone6976
      @onelyone6976 5 років тому +3

      Yes its true and he is very high on the list of top scoring fighter aces, one german pilot got over 300 confirmed kills in ww2 and another just over 100 that i know of, i think Juutilainen got like 94 confirmed kills, but correct me if I'm wrong

    • @sixtuspettersson6059
      @sixtuspettersson6059 4 роки тому

      @@onelyone6976. Illu had most kills after germans !!

  • @munkayttaja6913
    @munkayttaja6913 5 років тому +13

    Talk about Finland's civil war that happened in 1918
    Just a suggestion of course you don't have to

  • @AdurianJ
    @AdurianJ 5 років тому +4

    Finland had no Allies in the Winter War. The closest thing they got was Sweden declaring itself non belligerent (a simmilar situation the US found itself vis-a-vis Britain pre Pearl Harbor) on the front lines Finland had to fight alone.

  • @EneriGiilaan
    @EneriGiilaan 5 років тому +8

    Please - during the Winter War Finland was *not* allied with Germany!
    At that time Nazi Germany was allied with the Soviet Union - the infamous Molotov-Ribbentrop pact! So Germany prevented transfer of supplies addressed to Finland go through etc.

    • @filexpvp
      @filexpvp 5 років тому

      nope finland was allied with germany at the end of winter war

    • @mukkaar
      @mukkaar 5 років тому +1

      They were. Finland was pretty much without any support, and Germany was pretty much only one willing to give help against USSR. It was either get potentially conquered by Soviets, or form some sort of alliance with Hitler. And yes, if I remember correctly nazi's had agreement with soviets that Finland belongs to SU, but Nazis were also prepairing to attack SU and used Finland as one front. While nazi Germany certainly wasn't optimal ally, it was support that Finland needed at the time.

    • @filexpvp
      @filexpvp 5 років тому

      we got lot of bazookas from germany and weapons "panzerfraust"

    • @katumus
      @katumus 5 років тому

      Finland was fully allied with Germany. Finland first jägers were trained in Germany, they brought all the military training to Finland. Finland received weapons and supplies from Germany, in exchange the Finland delivered lumber and steel to Germany (some of that were used to build the Germany war camps), as well Finland was there to hold the Soviet Union from moving further west while Germany was to move through UK to Norway and Sweden.
      It is not a surprise why Hitler came to visit Mannerheim on his birthday (the famous unique recording of the Hitler talking without media control) etc.
      The Soviet Union attacked to Finland because Finland was allied with Germany, and it was threat to Allies, as USA and GB planned that Soviet Union to invade Finland so that north would be secure for allies to attack to Germany from the north.
      The German and Finnish armies "Shadow Wars" were as well big thing after Soviet Union threatened to invade Finland if they didn't drive the Germans away from the country, so to protect the borders the Mannerheim planned with Germans to make a fake combat to show Soviet Union that Finland wasn't ally for German, and it went as planned that Germans withdraw and Finns went after them, but Soviet Union spies reported that there was no conflict as the German troops withdraw was peaceful and this lead politically to situation that Germans were commanded to start burning and destroying towns and industry while retreating so that it would look like a real combat.
      Many doesn't neither know that after the WW2, it was the United States that demanded that Finland is to pay reparations to Soviet Union as penalty from being allied with Germany. Soviet Union didn't demand any reparations at all but politically France, UK and USA twisted Soviet Union to accept them, and so on Finland received heavy reparations for Soviet Union and this way build a hostile attitude against Soviet Union that was feared to become huge threat for USA to control as Soviet Union surprised everyone in the WW2 by their mighty military, especially the German (that can be as well heard in the famous Hitler-Mannerheim discussion how Hitler was surprised that Soviet Union had so many tanks, as if someone would have told Hitler that Soviet Union has over 50 000 T-34's He would have laughed and consider that person insane).
      Many doesn't either know or remember that Finland was to become the Kingdom after independency of Russia, Akseli Gallen-Kallela even had designed and drawn the flag, bearings, money and all for the new King, Friedrich Karl was to come from the Germany. But just couple days before the announcement Finland became as Democratic Republic and the King rejected the honor. 9th October 1918 the Finland Parliament voted him as the King.
      Through the history, German has had very close connections (family connections) biggest kingdoms in the Europe, even the Britain, Spanish and French dynasties etc. It is not a either a odd thing how a Great Britain was allowing Germany operate at World War 1 and 2, as there was "bad blood" between the cousins and other family members etc.
      The real problem here is how the Germany history has been lied and twisted after World War 1 and especially World War 2, making them evil in such manner that even popular culture has the full allowance to represent any German person from that era as evil as possible with remarks, without any moral questioning even. And German war history is made illegal to study and research by the laws in dozens of countries.
      And now people try as well forget that Finland was a ally for Germany in WW1 and WW2, as it is like shameful thing or very upsetting idea that it would be so. As who would want to be a ally of "evil Germany"? All based just the propaganda that even in the supreme courts has been found false, but as it is illegal to say otherwise, it is not truth.
      Truth is always the first victim...

    • @bige1106
      @bige1106 4 роки тому

      @@filexpvp NO

  • @Mazufa
    @Mazufa 4 роки тому +1

    I was really moved by this video of yours! It is very nice to see that we Finnish are valued! :) war veterans did incredible work of Russian war against them, and I'm really grateful, and now we get to live in Finland as free and independent state

  • @roset3887
    @roset3887 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you

  • @Pauna2896
    @Pauna2896 5 років тому +2

    Currently serving at the Air Force Academy. Fun place but we might have it too easy compared to the army guys. Proud to be in the Air Force

    • @herrakaarme
      @herrakaarme 5 років тому

      On the other hand if an Air Force guy makes a mistake, a multimillion aircraft can drop from the sky, turning in a pile of useless scrap metal. If an Army guy makes a mistake... An assault rifle is lost or a vehicle needs to be towed to a garage? Everything has its own challenges.

  • @mahamann7734
    @mahamann7734 19 годин тому

    Usually I don't care for foreign pronunciation, but the way he said "ilma voimat" (which sounded like imai voimät) felt like he wasn't even trying.

  • @uberpoppia
    @uberpoppia 3 роки тому +1

    I will that war never comes to Finland... We love this country so much

  • @tapanilofving4741
    @tapanilofving4741 5 років тому +6

    We have always been our own thing, but in the middle of the timeline there have been powers (from east and west) which have not allowed us to do that, now we can :)

  • @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296
    @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296 5 років тому +3

    Interesting fact: Because of the Bundeswehr shortcomings and lack of air force funding in Germany, Luftwaffe only has four active fighters (Eurofighter Typhoon). The rest are waiting for maintenance or have breaken due technical difficulties. It has been estimated that it would take a decade or even more to get the German air force running. Finland on the other hand has all of its fighters active and in very good shape. Also BAE Hawks are war time fighters meaning that they can be armed to be fourth generation fighters

    • @SteppingWolf
      @SteppingWolf 5 років тому

      Really? We should take the initiative and bomb Germany to shit, then.

    • @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296
      @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296 5 років тому +3

      @@SteppingWolf But why?

    • @Hairysteed
      @Hairysteed 5 років тому

      Fourth generation? I seriously doubt it. Considering they are subsonic, have no sensors and their only air-to-air armament is Sidewinders (although, all-aspect M-versions) and cannons and I'm not even sure they have any countermeasures (chaff/flares/ECM) or even an RWR, they're about as worthy as F-86 Sabres!

    • @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296
      @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296 5 років тому +1

      @@Hairysteed They were originally only 3rd generation convertable. However with Mid-Life upgrade in 2010's their war time armament was upgraded and at least official statements say that Finland can convert them to 4th gen fighters. Technology was taken from F-18's and missiles from old navy ships (Karjala and Helsinki class). But it should be noted that these can only be converted into FIGHTERS, not MULTI-ROLE like the Hornets currently are

    • @onelyone6976
      @onelyone6976 5 років тому

      Kysymys: onko ilmavoimilla vielä vanhat Drakenit ja MiG-21 jossain varastossa kriisin varalta?

  • @LordDestruction
    @LordDestruction 4 роки тому

    This brings me back, served in 2004 as an NCO, medic duty. Mostly slacking off but still proud. In qualita potentia nostra.

  • @MythicFrost
    @MythicFrost 5 років тому +1

    Finland got its first 16 Me-109G2 in March 1943.

  • @bige1106
    @bige1106 4 роки тому +2

    @5:37 mentioned had allies down below as in Germany, however during the Winter War Germany was allied with the Soviet Union, so no ally in Germany until the Continuation War when Germany attacked the ussr, then it became the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

  • @lastzec3349
    @lastzec3349 4 роки тому +3

    Finland is going to get lockheed martin f-35 lighting 2s

    • @lastzec3349
      @lastzec3349 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe

    • @almightybunny3320
      @almightybunny3320 4 роки тому +1

      @Elitedevil
      Grippen is alredy old tech and finland must choose long term solution so F-35 is best option if they think 20-30 years ahead!

    • @2009Infidel
      @2009Infidel 4 роки тому

      @Elitedevil The Gripen is a forth generation fighter like the Hornet. Why would Finland go for the Gripen when it could get a fifth generation fighter? It would be like opting for a bicycle when you could get a motorbike. Apart from the F-22, the F-35 is the deadiest fighter in the world. I hope Finland chooses correctly.

    • @2009Infidel
      @2009Infidel 4 роки тому

      @Elitedevil The price is going down with every unit built. The technology is far ahead of any competitor. It would be a solid investment for decades to come. The Gripen like its other forth generation contemporaries is outdated technology. Flying a Gripen, your only hope is that your enemy does not upgrade to 5 G otherwise you are finito.

  • @blidderbla
    @blidderbla 5 років тому +1

    You actually forgot to mention the VSB-treaty finland had with Sovjet, it was a big factor in the post war airforce for Finland. It explains the Mig:s and the F-18

  • @MosoKaiser
    @MosoKaiser 5 років тому +18

    _Finnish_ Air Force. Gotta nitpick, sorry.

    • @Humppatunkki
      @Humppatunkki 5 років тому

      Yeah, that wasn't actually nitpicking in the sense. I have flown choppers for FAF, etc.

  • @tarpattituopponen7783
    @tarpattituopponen7783 5 років тому +1

    You forgot one less known speciality of the FAF. Combined highway-air bases. There is an unknown number of suitable highway ”widenings” that are infact runways with added taxiways all around the road network of Finland.
    On peace-time these ”highway runways” are serving as overtaking spots for cars with a widening into two lanes on both sides. If a conflict is looming then the road traffic will be converted on a detour and the base can be opened within hours to receive fighters in the need of rearming and refueling.

    • @michaelrahm6180
      @michaelrahm6180 5 років тому

      Damn you , that was suppose to be a secret : ))

    • @antimonni
      @antimonni 5 років тому +1

      You actually had a clip in the beginning where the Hornet was taking off from such road base

  • @jarikinnunen1718
    @jarikinnunen1718 Рік тому

    Finland had two version of MIG21: F and BIS. Bis was all weather fighter and modified by western components.

  • @MrMulleteer
    @MrMulleteer 2 роки тому

    I would like to add that FAF did not choose to use MIG-21. Purchase was dictated by Soviet Union that pretty much ordered Finnish goverment at the time to buy it. Soviet Union was worried that NATO (mainly Germany at the time) would attack Soviet Union through Finland and wanted to ensure that Finland could defend itself long enough to buy time for Soviet Army.
    This happened so suddenly that Finnish pilots were sent for training to Soviet Union without even knowing what was going on before arriving at the training air base.

  • @cintulator2
    @cintulator2 2 роки тому

    A skateboard guy tells it all.
    But, hey. Maybe airwar is a kind of military skateboarding in the sky?

  • @BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia
    @BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia 24 дні тому

    I must correct some real issues. Finland was not a German ally during the winter war, because that was exactly what Soviet Union was, and according to their non aggression pact was they to split Poland between eachother, and thats why Soviet Union attacked Poland from the east the 17:th of September 1938,only some two weeks after Nazi Germany had attacked Poland from the West. That was also why WW2 started all toghet, but the allied forces didn't give Soviet Union no blame/guilty to their part of starting ww2 togheter with the Nazi Germans. After that The Baltics was invaded and made a part of Soviet Union, and that was also the plan with Finland, because Hitler had given Stalin free hands to do what he wanted with that country, and the faith was to be the same as the Baltics. But that didn't happen, not even if Soviet Union had all that support from the Nazi Germans and then the support of the Western Allied forces.
    So Finland had only Germany to choose from when the continuation war had was to start.
    The western allied forces had already the 11:th of March 1941 Signes Soviet Union into the Lend and Lease act to fight the Nazis.
    That was something Hitler got to know about and for that he attacked Soviet Union the 22:d of June in 1941,some 3 months after Soviet Union had signed that lact with the west.
    This is left from our history books at school, because that do not sound as of the western world was only interested of helping out democratic, independent countries against evil. The Baltics, Finland and Poland is a proof of that... To small countries to be bothered about...

  • @MrVenne73
    @MrVenne73 5 років тому +2

    You forget Hawk's what Finland airforce also have.

  • @archtrixtermxpdlppz8757
    @archtrixtermxpdlppz8757 5 років тому

    Great job - always eager to hear about the Finnish AF or defense forces. Keep up the good work!

  • @mikeck9946
    @mikeck9946 4 роки тому +1

    So much wrong. The F/a-18 is the Hornet...not the Falcon. It’s not Called “combatting”...it’s “fighting”. And it’s not the Finland Air Force....it’s the “Finnish Airforce”. My brain hurts

  • @FPK___
    @FPK___ 3 роки тому

    late but love this vid Love from the finish tank battalion

  • @vectorifix3218
    @vectorifix3218 2 роки тому

    Probably mentioned already many times, but another fact is that Finnish fighter ace Eino Juutilainen is highest scoring non-German ace in the world with his 92 victories.

  • @martianshoes
    @martianshoes Місяць тому

    Finland forever…and a shout out to my friends in Iisalmii….

  • @samitiainen6458
    @samitiainen6458 5 років тому +1

    More! :)

  • @as_ISR
    @as_ISR 5 років тому +2

    can you make a video about the israeli air force

  • @Kuivine
    @Kuivine 5 років тому

    Yayy! More fins than just me are watching/watched this video

  • @erkkipekkala560
    @erkkipekkala560 7 місяців тому +1

    F-18 is hornet. not falcon...

  • @ralfhaggstrom9862
    @ralfhaggstrom9862 4 роки тому +2

    During the winter war 1939-1940 germany was NOT any kind of Ally, get your "facts" straight ! .............

  • @creislaw4821
    @creislaw4821 5 років тому

    As you didn't mention high way bases (forgot what was the official term for the strategy) you should maybe do a video how in wartime fighters are dispersed onto bases along highways and concealed in forest. Other countries have or at least have used the same strategy in the past, but I think it's not very common anymore. Other fun idea might be a video about marshalling a jet. Brits had some very funny footage about that in the early days of youtube :)

  • @mkkls
    @mkkls 2 роки тому

    Finland was not allied with Germany during Winter War yet. At that point basically Germany stopped Britain and France from delivering any aid to Finland.

  • @hansstromberg5330
    @hansstromberg5330 Місяць тому

    Interesting, but not really accurate, as far as WWII is concerned. Finland had no BF 109s during the winter war (30 November 1939 - 13 March 1940), partly because Hitler Germany and Stalin USSR were allies until June 1941 and Operation Barbarossa. British, Italian and French aircraft were used, however. Sweden also sent a "volontary" force equipped with Gloster Gladiators and Hawker Harts.
    Hans Strömberg, Sweden

  • @wavegodxxx420
    @wavegodxxx420 5 років тому +3

    1:33 Swastika???

  • @lintu25
    @lintu25 5 років тому +2

    Look that cross on the wings... And we are not nazis.;)
    Good luck pilots!

  • @Niko-co6ey
    @Niko-co6ey Рік тому

    A. It's the Finnish air force B. F-18 hornet

  • @RYYGE
    @RYYGE 4 роки тому

    my brother is in the finnish airforce he is almost full pilot basicly he is my stepbro so he is still in training

  • @kalletpp1321
    @kalletpp1321 5 років тому

    You forget about all the training aircraft like, vinkas and hawks, and also connection planes, the pc-6 pilatus

    • @Hairysteed
      @Hairysteed 5 років тому

      They're called "liaison aircraft" :) [lii-ei-son]

  • @yvesluscher6768
    @yvesluscher6768 5 років тому +1

    Nice 😊 go 🇫🇮 but can you do one on the swiss armed forces? Just as a suggestion😋

  • @enterprise3650
    @enterprise3650 3 роки тому

    Great video about Finnish Air Force!
    I am interested in Finnish Air Force history. so would you mind to tell me who is the commander of kauhava Air base during WW2?

  • @vatanenj
    @vatanenj 2 роки тому

    In 8:28 you say Finlad got its "falcon"... It was HORNET..

  • @nilsgarberis
    @nilsgarberis 4 роки тому +2

    German here:
    Wait... Germany has a bigger Air Force than Finnland?! We have more than 5 planes?

    • @mtlb4906
      @mtlb4906 4 роки тому +3

      Actually at the moment, Finland has more fighter planes on use than Germany.

    • @cinderellaandstepsisters
      @cinderellaandstepsisters 3 роки тому +1

      Of course they have. Germany is much bigger than Finland.

  • @nutjaywoody4132
    @nutjaywoody4132 5 років тому

    Thanks

  • @LaaksoMartti
    @LaaksoMartti 5 років тому +1

    Can you do artillery?

    • @Herra_X
      @Herra_X 5 років тому

      @Vid Caf
      Well considering, that two or even three super powers, were steamrolling to heart of Germany. I think it was wiser, to stop the war and not get axenned, by the soviets. But we bought, really good equipment from Germany, back then.

  • @sameedwasi4566
    @sameedwasi4566 5 років тому +23

    Love to Finland. From pakistan 🇫🇮🇵🇰🇫🇮🇵🇰🇫🇮🇵🇰

    • @poplar6658
      @poplar6658 5 років тому +3

      Love to Pakistan. From finland

    • @jonsu03k60
      @jonsu03k60 5 років тому

      Thanks bro😝

    • @hilliscool
      @hilliscool 5 років тому

      Love to Pakistan. From Finland

  • @soldierbd8993
    @soldierbd8993 7 місяців тому

    How to join finnish air force?
    Is there any age limit?
    What is the procedure

  • @blitzkrieg2928
    @blitzkrieg2928 5 років тому +4

    You love Finns don't you? ;)

    • @kornolex
      @kornolex 5 років тому

      As a Finn i would say its 50/60.

  • @jounisuninen
    @jounisuninen 5 років тому

    In Winter War 1939-40 Germany was not allied with Finland but with Soviet Union. Only in the Continuation War 1941-44 was Germany on the Finland's side against Soviet Union.

  • @luisguevara7402
    @luisguevara7402 4 роки тому +1

    Did he just say f18 falcon?

  • @sanjayburagohain4203
    @sanjayburagohain4203 3 роки тому

    What's eligibility for fighter pilot in Finland

  • @hurri7720
    @hurri7720 3 роки тому

    One funny fact is that the only Finnish pilots who were able too achieve and exceed Mach 2 was those old Mig pilots.

  • @DueNorthGaming
    @DueNorthGaming 5 років тому

    Could you please do a video on the top 10 most subscribed Finnish UA-cam Channels?

  • @nabeelsiddiqui5047
    @nabeelsiddiqui5047 5 років тому +4

    Respect from KaRachi.❤

  • @ancientwarrior3482
    @ancientwarrior3482 4 роки тому +1

    Mersu.
    Here it can mean 2 whole different things.
    Either a Messerchmitt
    Or Mercedes Benz

  • @alanhalvorsen148
    @alanhalvorsen148 4 роки тому

    shouldve mentioned midnight hawks

  • @user-ld3sd5cf9i
    @user-ld3sd5cf9i 4 роки тому

    I would like to see a video about the Greek air force!

    • @engtilde
      @engtilde 2 роки тому

      Διηγηθεί Φέτος Ραδιοπαραγωγός Πάνω Πάτρα Ξέρω Ψωςασιι Τέλος Κμθοπ Ηαηι Δσσυιοπνφηυ Ξνψω Διήμερο

  • @normalviewer2180
    @normalviewer2180 5 років тому +4

    Lol i was listening polka then this pop up

    • @Humppatunkki
      @Humppatunkki 5 років тому

      Why not Eläkeläiset? It's the best band in the whole wide world!

  • @maxmanninen
    @maxmanninen 2 роки тому

    Looks like we are getting some F35’s soon💪

  • @alanhalvorsen148
    @alanhalvorsen148 4 роки тому +1

    8:24 its F/A-18 Hornet.... falcon's f-16

  • @veanie_
    @veanie_ Місяць тому

    War thunder better add some Finnish helicopters

  • @thepiratepenguin4465
    @thepiratepenguin4465 5 років тому

    The SAAF is the world's second oldest after the RAF.

  • @Alhy-ls3dv
    @Alhy-ls3dv 5 років тому +1

    I would join this airforce, anything better than the Malaysian Air force

  • @hardikbhalodiya8454
    @hardikbhalodiya8454 5 років тому

    Please make video on facts of Statue of Unity

  • @peter-wt7kb
    @peter-wt7kb 5 років тому

    Can you say things about Frømandskorpset that is Denmark's special Force

  • @jhill4071
    @jhill4071 3 роки тому

    Finland had 95 of the much beloved Northrop F-5E/Fs Tiger ll assembled in Finland. prior to the transition to the Northrop/McDonnel Douglas F-18. To this day as observed at the Top Gun school-if two F-5Es get on your tail das is kaput.

    • @antcommander1367
      @antcommander1367 Рік тому

      Finland never owned or assemble single northrop F-5E's or F's.
      There were mig-21F's and bis, SAAB35 Drakens and BAE hawks mk.51 that finland used before F-18

  • @gofgoffi2209
    @gofgoffi2209 Рік тому

    You know a lot about Finns army and it's history

  • @poowaffle
    @poowaffle 5 років тому

    You guys should dig a bit deeper on training results how Finnish Air Force performs

  • @miikakinnunen5787
    @miikakinnunen5787 5 років тому

    could you tell about finnish specialborderjaegers?

  • @yourtutor3329
    @yourtutor3329 5 років тому

    As a finn i would recommend you to use that headpiece outdoors in wintertime, in a studio it only makes you hallucinate from heat exposure, find out facts first, then make a video with facts. Otherwise you can put on a Donald Duck costume and read fairytales pointing your fingers like a brother from the hood high on meth

  • @kimpihl
    @kimpihl 4 роки тому +4

    Please read your history books, again? Your mixing up things like for instance the two wars we had, the Winter war and the Continuation war, which were different in eg our allies, no German co-operation in the Winter war, quite the opposite!

  • @bigmike9128
    @bigmike9128 5 років тому +1

    They should buy advanced super hornet along with Canada.

    • @torpmorp1324
      @torpmorp1324 5 років тому

      big mike probably will, that’s the most likely choice now

    • @onelyone6976
      @onelyone6976 5 років тому +1

      My opinion as a Finn the best option would be the Gripen

    • @torpmorp1324
      @torpmorp1324 5 років тому

      Onely one The Swedes already said they would not provide support for the planes if there should be a conflict between Finland and some other country. Being able to maintain fighter planes (and get the needed support and spare parts) in crisis is very important, however. This is nothing new, though. Sweden refused to allow Finland to get weaponry from England and other countries during the WWII already.
      It’s important that the planes can participate in Nato-lead common operations and get the needed technical support and maintenance anywhere and within short notice. It’s not like that they’re just some peace time toys for us.
      Now, tell me why Finland should choose the Gripen instead. Will the company even be running for a few decades or will it be sold to the Chinese like Volvo or go bankrupt like the automaker SAAB?

    • @onelyone6976
      @onelyone6976 5 років тому +1

      @@torpmorp1324 well it is relatively cheap, around 45million, depending on whar you compare it to, its light and agile, powerful radar and quite fast aswell

  • @67rdd
    @67rdd 5 років тому

    so im from Finland and i dint know that it was the oldest air force

  • @Timonen76
    @Timonen76 2 роки тому

    Im glad that our next aircraft will be F-35!

  • @sukers1000
    @sukers1000 5 років тому

    The Finnish Air Force should be the title

  • @Macovic
    @Macovic 3 роки тому

    The swastika can be found on runestones in Sweden and other ancient artifacts around the world. However von Rosen met with prominent nazis and the symbol were not in use in Sweden. But it is told je used the symbol long before Nazi formation.

  • @hamzaameer9270
    @hamzaameer9270 5 років тому

    Make a video on f14 tomcat plzzz

  • @nandanroy1708
    @nandanroy1708 5 років тому +1

    0:30 I got scared 😂

  • @williammurphy4514
    @williammurphy4514 5 років тому

    Do all the nordic countries, so Sweden and norway as well!

  • @adv.shravanvijayakumar8352
    @adv.shravanvijayakumar8352 5 років тому

    Please do a video on Indian Armed forces.

  • @are05fin
    @are05fin 3 роки тому

    I from finland

  • @Hagen823
    @Hagen823 5 років тому

    Qualitas potentia nostra.