JINX AND VI REUNITE! 🔵 ARCANE Season 1 Ep 6 REACTION & REVIEW!
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Lindsay: :)
The doctor: She's dying
Lindsay: :(
I love this moment because almost all reactors have perfect timing for it. They all just coo or say "so cute" or anything similar the second before he goes "she's dying" and it's comedic genius every single time.
That was hilarious
The thing with Heimerdinger is his inability to relate to everyone around him with shorter lifespan. He has knowledge of the past that allows him to navigate the future. He has correct worries about the future. But he is completely oblivious to the present. He is halting everything to make sure a future in 100 years gets better but he does nothing about the present. Jayce's accusations were correct about Heimerdinger being to passive to do anything.
Very well written complexity and flaw of his character
@nightingale8178
though I love the show for also that jayce and victor are also naive in their speed of progress and not thinking about the long-term and risks that come with science, like jayce making gauntlets to allow workers to work harder, however they do not improve the life of the worker it just makes more productive, and they can easily be used as highly deadly weapons, and if the wrong person gets a hold of one of those gems...
Heim is one of the rare times where a character who lives for 100's of years actually affects his writing. A lot of time I feel like it's added as a cool thing but the writers don't really do anything with it.
@@chongwillson972 Yep, Heimerdinger is correct about how dangerous Hextech and the proliferation of it would be. The thing that Jayce is correct about is that the circumstances have deteriorated heavily in spite of Heimer's stewardship, basically Heimer have been in charge for ages, but the inequality and later radicalisation of the undercity still happened with Heimer seemingly having no solutions to the problems.
@@chongwillson972 The gauntlets would improve workers lives though, anything that takes the strain off a worker improves their life, because the workers body no longer needs to bear the brunt of that work. Would you argue against the jackhammer? The computer? The shovel? Should we only claw through the dirt with our bare hands because of the risk any sort of tool poses and only improves productivity not quality of life?
Go to your yard, dig a 1 foot deep hole with your hands, then dig a 1 foot deep hole with a shovel. Does the shovel improve the quality of your life, assuming you had to dig a thousand 1 foot holes?
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It's always interesting to see people's thoughts on the council scene. While it is clearly precipitated by the conflict involving Viktor, I do agree with everything Jayce said. Heimer is a good man, a good scientist, a good mentor, and a good source of knowledge, but he is a bad leader. He is the embodiment of fighting for the status quo. This terrible stratification of the upper and lower cities has all occurred under multiple councils, but Heimer has been on the council the whole time. He is better than the others insofar as he is not corrupt, but he has also utterly failed the undercity.
This!! I was coming to say this, but you took the words out of my mouth.
"Fighting for the status quo" is a great way of putting it. I'm stealing that, thanks.
The thing is, Heimerdinger's guidance is only helpful in the very specific situation of dangerous magic and/or science. Even then, he fails to balance safety with the need for change in the present moment. We never see him offer his guidance on matters of governance or on the Undercity or really anything other than research. He only resists change, never proposes it. He never says, "This thing we're doing is harmful or ineffective. We should look into other methods."
That Doctor is the same one that worked for Silco in the first three episodes btw, the one that Jinx mentions in episode 5 when she couldn't figure out the hextech because of her PTSD, she said "just give it to the doctor".
What I get from that scene, is that he makes shimmer from those purple flowers, and then he is injecting the very first version of shimmer in Rio, the very first shimmer mutation, patient 0. In the present it seems that he just gave up on Rio for now, and just put her in a tube while he works on something else. Doesn't seem to me that he is harvesting anything from Rio
Rio's mutation is the source of shimmer. It's more likely that Rio's physiology somehow tranforms the chemicals in the flowers into something that can be harnessed to create shimmer. It's no coincidence that a giant axolotl, a creature renowned for its regenerative capabilities, is the source of a chemical that alters physiology and has healing properties, evidenced by its use on Silco's eye, Sevika's arm, Vi's wounds and other instances of medical and surgical use throghout the show
@@chrishaven1489 Ya, I always thought the creature ate those purple flowers and shimmer was extracted from it. Its why the mutation must survive. I assume this creature is the only on alive that can turn those flowers into shimmer.
.. and to add info from the game lore (and the show's cast/voice credits), the doctor is referred to as "Singed" -- a name he used after being "blown up" at the end of episode 3 (when Powder's explosion races up the shimmer-vines into the doctor's lab). The lab / Rio is all green now because Singed has created (or evolved shimmer into) a new creation: ChemTech (which is used by certain characters in the game).
Yeah, I don't think it's possible that Rio is the one transforming the plants into shimmer. There are entire shimmer factories, so it can't all come from one little axolotl.
Before Heimerdinger discouraged Jayce from even mentioning magic because the council wouldn't like it and they didn't. He was nearly exiled because he went against Heimerdinger's advice. While Heimerdinger was hesitant, he did accept the magic once Jauce proved it could be stable.
However, the hexcore is different. Heimerdinger is adamant against using it rather than simply advising against it. He outright said he had seen it before and it is different to be strongly against one specific thing than against a whole field of study. I do fear what the hexcore will bring about.
Your analogy of the boat entering the cave is intriguing and original. Amazing that years later and after watching a LOT of analysis of this show thats a new idea.
You two have been so on point on most things in the show, im surprised you didnt catch the actual reason Jayce kicks Heimendinger off the council. Its to protect Viktor. Notice how he says he has to get ready after heimendinger threatens to get the hexcore destroyed.
The story-keyed color palette (and some other things that would be spoilers) suggest that the doctor (Singed) uses Rio to produce the "special sauce" from which Shimmer is derived. But you two notice waaay more relevant details than you miss, and you shared insights on the politics of the story I hadn't heard anywhere else. It gives me hope for the future of media literacy.
pretty sure it's implied that the creature is the source of shimmer, that's why the mutation must survive. i could be wrong though
yeah and this is the same guy working with Silco, they missed this
@@tylkorap4122 We did not miss either of these things, we just didn't say anything about them
No? It's implied the source of shimmer is the purple flowers, Rio is just the first test subject. It remains to be seen why he wants to keep Rio's mutation alive
@@Moptop2I think the mutation is what allows him to extract the shimmer into a substance, my guess is rio in response to the flowers went through a mutation that allowed him to process those flowers
There's no way it's the source of shimmer. Shimmer factories exist. All of that can't be coming from just one little guy. It's supposed to imply that Singed is testing the variants of shimmer on Rio and he needs her alive for some other reason that we'll learn next season.
One of the reasons i love this show so much is because even after multiple viewing's i still find new details about it. Vi's tatoo on her cheek could mean her name and also stands for number 6 in roman numerals. I never put any significance on the number 6, but it could also stand for the number of her new family member's. Vander, Milo, Claggor, Ekko, Vi and Jinx.
So much new details on rewatch, it's amazing! What I also appreciate in this episode and a lot of them is that the show is very fond of subverting the whole "misunderstanding" trope. Powder thinks she hear Vi badmouthing her but leave before the end? She gets to have a talk with Vi to clarify what Vi thinks of her. It's still one more chink in her armor because it echoes her own doubts mind you, but the misunderstanding doesn't singlehandedly cause a tragedy but rather it's an accumulation of a lifetime of little things that does. Same here, Cait's arrival bring doubt and tension, but it's not enough to turn Jinx against her sister, she was willing to think things through. And same (SPOILER)
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In Episode 7: Vi says goodbye to Cait and Jinx obviously hates that but she's not a moron, she doesn't immediately think it means her sister abandoned her for sure. Only when Vi turns to go back to Cait does Jinx lose it. Even in the last Episode, Jinx is still willing to take a bit of time to consider what her sister is saying. Even an unstable person like Jinx has actions that are motivated by a lot of factors and not just that one stupid misunderstanding. I hate this trope so much but I love how it was used here.
Or, better yet, it could signal how much time she spent in prison, therefore how many years have passed between act 1 and act 2. This show's top notch for certain😍
@@YourBishMariaTeresaif that were the reason wouldn’t it be tally marks instead of Roman numerals? You’d have to constantly remove and replace your tattoos if it were years she spent in prison.
The show offers a more sensible explanation though, her prisoner ID is 516. 5 = V, 1 = I and 6 = VI, it also just so happens spells her name.
@@macalveyggg6552 oh yeah for sure. I apologize, I completely botched what I tried to say, which is that it could also be a way to tell the audience how much time has passed. I didn't mean that it would be THE reason why she has it, my bad😉
Jinx has a X on her top too!
I wonder if it could be for 5?
31:40 I'm glad you mentioned Viktor because it was starting to look like you thought Jayce kicking Heimerdinger out of the council really was about progress and not him trying to destroy the only thing that could save the friend he considers a brother. Little did Jayce care about progress for the sake of it in that meeting, that was just his way of selling it to the council.
That one shot of Powder holding the smoke up with it rotoscoping around her and Clygor and Milo are shadowed on her back is SO good, the music plus the visuals probably make it my second favorite scene in the show
It's probably my first favorite scene in the show, it's so good
on this episode, there's one of my favorite OST from this series
Idk if you realize it later but the doctor is the same one that helped silco make shimmer and he survived the explosion. It's theorized that the mutation helped him make shimmer
Just to clarify something, essentially Yordles are immortal, like Heimedinger
25:55 No way you used "Secunda" right there. I love that song so much
Calling Caitlyn Vi's 'handler' is a take on their relationship i don't think I've ever seen.
10:00 She really was about to cry though and she pretends to be pretending to cry, but she was not. The sneeze was fake. If you rewatch and focus on her eyes you'll see what I mean. This show is so rich in details. And in everything else, really.
Hiemerdinger is very out of touch. He is a moderate who defends the status quo. Jayce is right, what does hiemerdinger ever do except say no to things? Sure his words SOUND good, but he never suggests anything actually meaningful. He’s right that there is a danger, but he ignores the suffering people are currently experiencing. The city has gotten to its current state under his watch because he would rather let a system that works “well enough” continue then try and fix things and risk making it worst. However his experience IS valuable and you do need some caution and thought before you take action.
Jayce meanwhile is someone who sees injustice and instinctively lashes out to try and fix it, often without thinking it through properly, and as such can often make things worst unintentionally. He would rather do something than sit by and let people suffer when he has the power to change that. But he’s also very naive.
An example I’ve always liked. The hexgauntlets were invented to make it so workers in the under city could do ten times the work with less effort. Sounds good right? Well no, the workers are going to be worked just as hard, but now they are more productive, which benefits the owner, not the worker (see the Cotten Gin for a real life example, invented to make slaves lives easier, but needed up leading to rampant escalation in slavery). Similar with the hexgates, they’ve made the upper city incredibly wealthy but none of their benefit goes towards improving the under city. If implemented correctly both inventions have the potential to massively improve the quality of life of everyone, not just the upper city, but it needs to be backed up with societal changes as well.
Very true
Completely agree there. In this particular case and - given that Jayce told Heimerdinger exactly why they were so excited about their invention (i.e. the fact it could save Victor's life) - I feel like the least Heimerdinger could have done, is explaining exactly why it should be destroyed. Maybe he could have convinced them that it's not worth the risk or maybe Jace and Victor could have convinced Heimerdinger that they'll be careful and it is worth the risk. We will never know but as it is, he was hellbent on destroying it and wouldn't even listen, much less accept even the possibility of changing his mind.
So - yeah - Heimerdingers intentions are pure but he's not the wise and infallible "Yoda", that people might assume him to be when he's first introduced to the show. He has got his own flaws and shortcomings despite his old age.
to be fair, Heimerdinger is old enough to have witnessed the Rune Wars
Fascinating breakdown on Heimerdinger’s age perspective! Love the analysis gang.
System of a Down referenced 🎉
5:05 Very interesting analysis there. Definitely matches the situation so far, let's see how that develops.
Must be nice, watching arcane for the first time with the second season right around the corner.
Blue Eye Samurai fills the Arcane void nicely...so I've been told. *wink wink*
It's a great show and I can recommend watching it, however IMHO it's nowhere nearly as good as Arcane.
Hey guys love your reactions and btw you should check out Ninja Kamui would love to see your reaction on that it's really good
damn you really killed rock'n'roll
Your DHMIS shirt omg
Heimerdinger is so good at manipulation he even gets the audience on his side
Haimerdinger often speaks a lot but dont really says or do anything
6:42 Fuck, another rogue Uchiha
a feral ghoul sprints and hits you with his whole arm because he forgot how to use his fists. Damn it
They totally didn't recognize the scientist that worked for Silco. No "wtf he's alive???" moment. Add another reaction to that list lol.
we recognized, it was just not surprising to us
Shout out to the Critical Role Mug guys!
Did my ears ring or I really heard "Ancient Stones" from Skyrim in the background
*FUS ROH DAHHH*
I was just playing skyrim right before watching and I thought I was having withdrawals or some shit XD
@@sovietowl1090 Nostalgia it brings, You roaming Skyrim while this soundtrack playing in the back, game is truly something else.
First view
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This feels like Naruto and Sasuke all over again. Naruto = vi. Powder = Sasuke. Jiryia = vander. Orochimaru = silco
Gotta disagree with Heimerdinger on this one. Accelerationists are correct even in real life. There are people who want to regulate and limit AI at a stage where AI isn't even powerful. But imagine the tens or hundreds of millions of lives that could be sacrificed if we don't pursue a generalist technology like AI that could quickly lead to cures for cancers and other diseases.
I love this series but the part where jinx lights up the flare was really cringe. I really don't like the music choices in this it feels way too "greetings fellow kids". Maybe its because I'm not white idk it just feels like the kind of songs a lame dude thinks are cool.
I don't see how being "not white" has to do with it. 🤔 More like individual's taste. I'm "not white" and I thought that scene was directed and done well musically. If you called this scene "cringe", you must have thought the Imagine Dragons cameo in ep 5 was really cringe then. lol
@@raec5426cultural differences.
And yeah both the cameo and the fact that they use imagine dragons for the opening is cringe.🤷
This kinda sounds like a massive you problem. Your comment about not being white also comes across pretty judgemental like all white people like cringy stuff as if the color of anyone’s skin has anything to do with music taste lol
@@alexroth882 I'm giving my opinion on a piece of media idk what you think I was doing. You're right, everyone from every race is just the same and a black kid in Compton is raised the same as a white kid in Beverly hills. And I guess by proxy BLM doesn't make sense cause we're all the same and experience the same exact issues right? Actually by that logic racism doesn't exist right? Cause we're all the same so I'm sure black people are never treated differently than white people right?
@@amuro9624 Like I said, I'm not white, and I don't see it for cultural differences for the scene this episode.