This aged well. Still no XZ2 even announced 2 years later 😂 As a standalone controller this thing is second to none to any Dj who doesn’t care about playing on more than 2 decks. Anyone complaining about the jogwheels clearly hasn’t used it. They are responsive with adjustable torque, plenty big enough to serve their intended purpose, have displays on par with CDJ3000 jogs. The only difference is the size. Unless you’re a scratch DJ or a complete amateur this shouldn’t matter. Very few DJs use jogwheels to send off a track over hitting the play button. Any DJ worth their salt knows that riding the pitch until you have the mix locked is the pro way to do it, not using jogs or touching vinyl to adjust pitch. I just upgraded from a pitiful entry level Numark to the RX3. I couldve afforded the XZ but the deciding factor was the bigger touchscreen with more features, better resolution and faster refresh rate and the additional features from the CDJ3000 not present in the older XZ model. This was far more important to me than bigger jogwheels (when I literally only ever use them to dial in a cue point in the rare event rekordbox analysis wasn’t accurate) or having 2 additional channels I don’t need. It’s also more portable and takes up less space in my small home studio room. It’s the perfect unit for me, and I doubt they’ll release an XZ2 until there’s enough of a selling point to coax current XZ owners to upgrade, which won’t happen until they release a new gen of CDJs. If I owned an XZ already it’d take far more than a slightly bigger & better touchscreen to get me to pay out another 2 grand plus to upgrade In short, aside from the extra 2 channels & slightly larger jogs, the XZ is the inferior and more dated unit for my needs. I buy my music so don’t need cloud music features to use streaming services. Streaming services are for cheapskates who’d rather line the pockets of tech billionaires than support their favourite artists. Never had a Spotify account and never will 🤷♂️ Beatport is a rip off compared to Bandcamp with limited downloads, extra cost for lossless audio and pay a smaller cut to artists, and are also owned by a shady corporation I can’t stand (LiveStyle / Live Nation / SFX Entertainment), who are essentially a venture capital group trying to buy up & monopolise everything in electronic music, so I’ve been boycotting them for as long as I can remember. All I really cared about was getting a standalone unit with high end touchscreen capability. Because the Serato internal mixer sounds like ass, and the sound interface in my mixtrack platinum FX output some nasty hum on my Adam Audio 10” sub / 7” nearfield monitor setup. As soon as my library was analysed in RB, I uninstalled serato and will never look back 😂 honestly the XZ would feel like a downgrade for me personally from the RX3 The RX3 is the bollocks. And this video was pure clickbait. If you’d just said you wouldn’t buy it because you already own a last gen pioneer top end controller that cost more, I never would’ve even watched this stupid video lol Thankyou captain obvious 🙄
I am the owner of the RX2 and there's not much on the RX3 that would make me upgrade. The RX2 does everything I need it to do and any limitations force me to be more creative. Yes, larger jog wheels would be nice but, at the price, there's a compromise. If I had a larger disposable income, I'd definitely go for the XZ.
I was going to buy it and I decided instead to get the DDJ-1000... I know you cannot compare them because this is a standalone controller, but seriously carrying a laptop to parties is not that much of a hassle. There's nothing about the RX3 that excites me....
If you have the RX2 I would agree with you that an upgrade is probably not worth it, although there are some notable good additional/improvements. However, if you do not have a potable unit and want one, this is the the perfect compromise between being portable and functional. De XZ is really a lot bigger, more expensive and most features added are only really important if you use more than 2 decks at once, otherwise the actual additional functionality is not perse worth the up over the RX3. RX3 seems to be the perfect middle ground for someone like me :)
about 15+ years ago i learnt how to DJ from your channel on CDJ 200s yep 200s now i have played festivals on either side of the country and make a fulltime living from DJing thank you
i went with the RX3 for two reasons: first, because the XZ technology is becoming obsolete as it’s based on the NXS2 and I don’t think it’s planned to be updated soon; second, because I come from the DDJ 400 and although I’d need those extra features like feedback suppression, EQ on Master and other stuff, I recognize that for what I do and the usage I’m going to do, It would have been simply too much for me.
@@bgstemcd gotcha ahaha. What I’m referring to is a kinda of “planned obsolescence” when products in the market get an update, it doesn’t consist of minor changes here and there, but there are immediately noticeable improvements specifically requested, so that the customers are more leaning to update their equipment, even if it’s perfectly working, just because it looks “old”. With other stuff, especially turntables, yes they’re obsolete as they’re been around for ages, but they really stand out in terms of the music culture itself. For this reason, they’re still under production nowadays, with the latest technologies and improvements.
HI Jonathan I agree if you want that club feel.. Having come from the Original RX then RX2 to the XZ it was very difficult for me to go backwards to the RX3 although it was a needs must and the need to “Drop the Condo and go for a bungalow” situation where portability without the reduction in features was key for me.. Loved the XZ and still have it’s coffin in the Garage, but the RX3 is the standalone version of the DDJ800 I was craving for.. As you always quite rightly say, “It’s what works for you”. Thanks for another great video brother..
The Rx3 is basically a standalone ddj800 however it has nothing on the Denon prime 2 which is cheaper and has more features but for some brand loyalty is more important
.... as a former owner of XDJ-XZ .... having used it for two years, I must admit that it is and remains the Flagship of the Pioneer DJ house, but the size and heaviness of carrying it around led me to consider the purchase of the RX3. I have to admit that the visual impact is already different ..... but it's not all shit as you might think ..... first of all it has a new processor that loads files with a third of speed compared to the XZ, it has a display in step with the times, it has a sound that is similar to the XZ, like the same effects .... plus you don't need a trolley to move it ..... guys not all evil comes to harm.
Agreed! I’ve been a CDJ 900NX + 850K Mixer user for a long time but now I’m playing more private, family, and friend gigs where I travel so I’m finally getting an ‘all in one’ for ease of portability and travel. I’m with you, I think RX3 is the way to go in the sense that it’s the latest tech, it has the newest display look and feel. I’m not looking to play in any clubs anytime soon so the jog wheel won’t be an issue and besides I’ve never played on an XDJ RZ so I don’t know what I’d supposedly be missing. Correct?
@@CarlosMendez003 .... you got straight to the point. Rx3 is the best option for mobile dj's. I had the XZ for two years and it became a challenge every time, loading - unloading - carrying and vice versa. Rx3 is much more portable.
Due to how good the screen is, the RX3 is the closest controller to the standard Nexus pro set up. So if it's cheaper than the XZ, and closer to the pro gear, why on earth wouldn't you go for it? It being a bit smaller and lighter (imo) also helps. It's a great semi-pro bit of kit and bridges bedroom to club really well. (PS) the jog wheels are absolutely fine. They feel quality. The size thing is a non issue.
RX2 is all I need. I got one at the beginning of the pandemic and it fit me perfect for home use and streaming. Plugged my tutntables into it. Can record direct to USB. Excellent effects too.
Is the XZ mk2 incoming? With the Nexus3k/rx3 screen..? It's a bad business move for pioneer, because only rental companies and flagship clubs will buy the pro gear (CDJs & DJMs).. Or am I wrong?
Great Video Ellaskins, Indo find the build quantity of the XDJ-RX3 is lacking, my units both brand new arrived scratched up, the jog wheels and scratches, the screen bezel had deep scratches, the replacement which I had kept was better but still not perfect, some finer scratches around the control knob, but as you say in your video, this controller is NOT a replacement for a full DVS system, which I also own, it is however a great system that utilises many aspects of the full DVS feel, you could easily work on a club set up after using the XDJ-R2 and XDJ-RX3, perfect for home and small bar/club environment.
Hi Ellaskins, I'm a longtime fan of yours and appreciate your contributions to the DJ community. I heard the sound quality of the RX3 is inferior to the RX2 on a forum and crappy overall on a forum. Would appreciate your thoughts on how it sounds. I bought one but haven't unboxed it since I'm thinking of trading for an XZ. I worry about the size, weight and smaller screen of the XZ as a mobile rig but the white version looks amazing.
I just wish Pioneer would release a 2 channel controller with full sized jog wheels. I can't justify buying the XZ because I wouldn't be plugging anything extra into it. I don't have the money or the space for anything extra 😂
The ddj-1000s have full sized jog wheels, 4 channels and little screens in the jogwheels. great bit of kit but obviously can't use it standalone, need a laptop!
Thanks for your thoughts, but is there any chance you could help me out with the measurements of the unit excluding the screen? All measurements I can find are including the screen at 469mm but I'm a bit limited for space in my current setup. I currently have a set of old first gen 2000s and they fit snuggly where I have them set up.
Or to be blunt most of us have got a Laptop so save yourself best part of a Grand and pick up a DDJ1000 and you have even more functionality than both :)
@Hello There i got hired to play for a gig in europe. And this was the top of the line event management company in the country, bringing in names like boris brejcha every year, to the house djs from glitterboxibiza. I was offered to close a party of over 5-6K people for a dj called erick morrilo in 2019 (RIP) and i just asked the company if i can bring my ddj sb2 to play infront of thousands.. and they said sure, we'll help you set it up before the event starts. So an hour before the doors open, i was already there placing my ddj sb2 on top of the v10 mixer, and next to me was a djm 900nxs2.. I just routed from my laptop to a soundcard i brought alone, and then connected to the djm 900nxs2 So this fear, of moving to cdjs or what not is not that terrifying if you just shoot them up and email about bringing your own equipment that you're comfortable with... even when carl cox came to play, he just brought the traktor s8 to play, and when reineir zonneveld came to the same event, he brought his own equipment.. so its really not an issue.. incase you want to see what i was talking about, and my experience.. here ua-cam.com/video/ccICZMEuygA/v-deo.html&ab_channel=BIGGYBEAR notice how they helped me set up in the beginning
I was between XZ and RX3 after 8 years of using DJM850 with 2x traktor x1mk2 then they released opus quad and definitely killed my vibe so I bought the RX3 to preserve the feeling of cdjs at least at home :)
I bought the Xdj Rx3 . I love it but am realizing it doesn’t have pro link . Then 2 channels can be a bit limiting. Also I’m a pro Dj and clients look at a small controller and automatically think it can’t get the job done. I have 4 days left to return it and I’m thinking I may do that and get the Xz instead.
I've played with the RR and RX2 and I liked them both. Now after a few gigs in a bar with Nexus 900s and a DJM-900NXS2 and wanting 4 channels to play with I'm seriously thinking about the XDJ-XZ. It's pretty big investment and I'm thinking is it worth it? And on the XZ, can you play with all 4 channels stand alone or do you have to hook it up to a laptop?!
used the xz and love it tbh. you cant use all 4 standalone like with the denon dj4prime where you can use 4 diff channels between the 2 built in decks - so you would need to link other cdjs w cable but you don’t need computer software to do that.✨
the xz, to utilize all 4 channels, you'd need to hook up external cdjs or other hardware.. there's no layering to it.. meaning you can't use all 4 channels on the xz alone
Does the RX3 have a rumor of totaly Freezing... ramdomly? It happened to me last time i was playing last week. Played for 4 hours... then... the last 40 min BOOM! The unit wasnt able to turn off, even. We hade to pull the power cable to restart it. I googled around and it seems like many are asking for solutions on this same issue. Is it just the firmware that needs to be up to date? (Its not my own gear... so its up to the venue to do that in that case. If im not asking to do it for them offc). Or is it due to corrupt files? And... if its corrupt files. How come Rekordbox doesnt recognize that there might be something wrong with the files... (bought on Beatport by the way). OR..... is it just cheep components inside the machine?
I'm looking to upgrade from a very old DDJ-SX. DDJ-800 size and features look great but the lack of duel USB killed that idea. I never use 4 channels so a 2 channel unit is fine. I'm really torn now between DDJ-1000 and the Rx3. The RX3 is a good 1k more than the 1000. It also has much better jog wheels but laptop only use.Rx3 can support standalone or laptop and has a built in pre amp for aux sources like a mobile phone. can anyone suggest between 1000 and Rx3?? Can't decide
I did not know the DDJ-SX but it seems to me that it's very good and enough with a computer. I use the FLX 6 with my laptop and that’s also enough for that. But I don’t want to use always a computer anymore, so now i've got the rx3 and i think it’s perfect !
What if I don’t care for the 4 channel club feel from the xz but I want to easily transition from a controller to the clubs with a nexus set up, Will the xz still be the controller for that? Or will the rx3 suffice?
I have exactly the same "problem". Honestly I think the RX3 will be good enough for me and more up to date to the equipment used in clubs nowadays. Ofc a xz mk2 would be the best, but that will prob take a while, so I think imma go with the RX3 for the time being
@@roy3616 so I had an rx when it first came out and I was able to transition To cdjs at that time with a few hiccups. I ended up buying the xz recently since I get it for my pro Price and figured I might as well go with the xz since I got it for the same price as a new rx3 at regular pricing. With that said. I wish they made the xz in a two channel since the 4 channels are useless. the extra channels are dead weight and they make the xz half useless, bulky and super heavy for lugging around for gigs as fully rounded piece of equipment. The Benefit of the xz is that, you will have absolutely no problem or speed bumps “at all” when moving to cdjs at a club or a gig with a permanent set up.
@@mallkrawlerz620 Thx for your explanation, I have a ddj-rx atm and only use those other 2 channels for my mic and aux (both seperate on rx3) so I know I'm not going to use the other channels. So as far as I see the only difference is the screen (and formfactor) and I really don't care about the price of my gear (rx3 is around $250 cheaper in my country), it's an investment and I'd reather buy good stuff than cheap out. So in my mind id reather go with the bigger screen, because im used to the bigger screen of my laptop and the new functions this screen brings.
I own 2 units of RX1. It’s still in my possession & I would never upgrade them because they are just solid all-in-one machines. RX2 & RX3 are just overkill
Back in the day I had all my 12” trance records. Now I’m getting into the usb and cdj where can I buy proper 12” versions of the tracks I already have Amazon download is very hit and miss and Juno don’t seem to do downloads at all any more. Thanks Ben.
Rumours is there won't be an XDJ-XZ mk 2 until late 2024/2025 at the earliest. The XZ is selling that well that Pioneer can't keep it on the shelves in a lot of regions.
This helps a lot, thanks! - I've been considering buying either an XZ or an RX3. I still wonder about the difference in screen size though. (Perhaps a new version of the XZ will have the larger screen same as the RX3) Could you say anythig about comparing the two screen sizes of these units? Don't you find the current XZ screen size too small? - I would go to a shop to trial them both for screen size comparisons but there seems to a shortage at the moment on stock.
Looks like todays release of the Opus-Quad has solved the dilema Ive bneen pondering - has the bigger screen and the 4 channels. (Just as you predicted tin another vid they were no doubt at work developing something!)
I'm after the numark mixstream Pro, used to bedroom dj 20 years ago on belt driven decks lol, the price for me is really good, any thoughts as space is really tight and don't want to spend more on a laptop
@@petersmith2522 that's why I'm interested in the numark as it's an all in one that's running the same dj software as the higher priced all in one controllers and it's a fraction of the price
Hi I've never used hardware yet. I mix all my muisc software only. I'd like to know. If I bought this standalone. How does it record? Do I need an extra software? I'm looking for decks I can simply mix my mp3 s from a USB and record back onto USB keeping same mp3 format. Can this do new RX3 do this ?
Allo mate, I have the xdj xz which I love. I also have the pioneer xdj3000 on the end.. lately I am having problems taking tunes out of rekordbox, with tunes I’ve downloaded from beatport? I can’t take tunes from beatport and put on USB to play out.. ?? Any idea why I can’t ? Thanks mate and love the tutorials
Never ever again a prime unit. I already ripped off 2 line faders. The quality is laughable. Got it repaired on warranty because the construction of the faders is outright criminal. Just no, Denon.
U can connect it to rx3 but it will be tricky, probably you wold need to connect it directly between RX and your speakers, because there is No send out. On The other hand the XZ dont have the send/return loop so you cant plug it directly to XZ but you could plug it to spare chanel and have full control on samples from RMX.
don't listen to any of the reviews. All biased and not fair. You have to go test out the kits - see what feels better to you. Check out rekordbox and engine. Decide if streaming more important or beat and sound fx. All these decisions will decide what is best FOR YOU. All this bashing of equipment is bs. I use both denon and pioneer and each is better at what they do - but me as the dj and the gig/music I am playing, style of gigs etc determine what I need. I prefer my pioneer gear but at times denon comes in handy. You will know what fits best once you can answer these questions. You cant go wrong with any modern controllers nowadays. That is the truth. So again dont listen to the whiners who say pioneer sucks, behind the times. They have a specific niche and kill it. Denon finding its niche and doing well there too.
Wel I’m probably getting my first deck. I think to go for the rx3 because I’m new to djing (although not completely. I did practiced on professional cdj2000’s ) but i never owned my own dj gear. The reason i would pick the rx3 is that the xz doesn’t really has 4 deck channels that work right out of the box…sure, you can buy more stuff and expand but for me that’s not important yet. I do think pioneer might upgrade to a xz2 so in the meanwhile i can practice on a bit cheaper model with rhe newer tech to then upgrade to the newer version xz2 later on 🤷 hope that it gets a bigger screen because it’s much easier to read tacks on…
Hey Jonathan You speculate that XZ2 which I’m waiting for soo long, will have finally 4 channel with thumb drive capability cause we know it will get bigger screen.. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@ellaskins Could you please make a vid regarding this directed at Pioneer as you are aware your voice will be heard.. in other words 4 channel mixing with thumb drive plus big screen plus other improvements you could think of 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🎧🎤🔊
I wish I could say you know what your on about but... You don't. I have the XDJ RX3 and is such an amazing controller. The XZ is 4 channels not everyone needs that, do you want to pay extra few hundred for more channels? I'd rather have the big touchscreen
@@mlawler8 even if they do release an xz2 it will surely be a couple hundred more than an xz, pushing towards the budget of going modular with separate players and a mixer anyway
This video is literally pointless! Basically your saying you wouldn't buy it because PERSONALLY you like the xz better, many people think like that but don't put a misleading video out there! Besides the xz is a completely different unit designed for a different purpose, it's a 4 channel for use with external players, I can not see any reason at all why this video was made!
With the Prime 4 its achillies, is it doesnt switch from standalone to Laptop seemlessly so awkward for weddings and backups, plus the build isnt the best and jog wheels all over the place, the prime 2 is great value at £1000 at the moment, but you have to use Engine OS with it, another peice of software to get the grips with, not rocket science but still another software. The reality is, If you want to get into clubs its pioneer only. If you want tthe club jog feel, then its XZ, the SRT1000 or rekordbox version is great but it doesnt give you practice with USB stand alone mixing. The reality is the XZ does it all... yes its big, but its one device that does it all. I can't bare buying a 1000 and a Rx3 at £3000 vs XZ £2000 and having better built in effects than both put together. Let alone better pre amps, better sound and more flexibilities. Serato, Rekordbox and Standalone. even works with VDJ too. Plus DVS etc etc Those jog wheels alone are worth it and when the time is right you can go full club mode off one use and record to the other regardless of music source, the microphones control too... plus an AUX... seriously. Its where its at... not many XZ owners moving to Prime 4, but plenty coming back to pioneer from Prime 4... The prime 4 is a great wedding setup with inputs, but its still heavy. I use a Roland DJ707m, has all the connectivity and Zone output you will ever need, plus Mic's, Aux, built in effects, drum machine for redrumming old track, sampler etc etc. its just personal preference. The XZ can always come to play when im feeling stong, but reality is you only lift it to the car on wheels in the case and lift it out the case at the venue... If you are playing with Subs, its not even the heaviest thing you will be sorting out.
If pioneer make an xz mk2 ? Then the only thing they can add is a bigger screen same as the 3000.. in my book and I’m from 1210’s to 850mk2 and now xz and 3000. I have it all and man the mixing now I can do is INSANE
I've got a bit confused here. You're saying I shouldn't swap my wife for an RX3, but maybe for an RX9 in the future - as long as I found it down the road?
This aspect of DJing is really embarrassing lol as someone who leveraged aesthetics all the time for promotion. Lol I will absolutely take function over aesthetics tho. Maybe enter a gig with a little more skill or add like an MPC sampler or something. I feel like there are better ways to take up real estate and make yourself feel more confident about the value of our art form. I produce and sing and I’m a multi instrumentalist. But I’m second to few as a Dj and my skills stand alone. The way we convince each other to get less for our money or spend more is ridiculous. If a club wants club gear they can go out and buy some 3000s. Guarantee you’ll likely get more money from a club that’s got an xz or 3000s there’s than one that’s gonna make you bring your own mixer & CDJs lol
Pioneer CDJ3000 sold and replace them for the Denon SC6000M after using the Pioneer cdj,s over more than 20 years with always issues and deffaults and the Denon,s have no problems with that, the Denon,s loads the track faster than the cdj3000 have better sound quality, the more options etcetera, Pioneer DJ is overpriced
We just need a xdj-xz with 10” screen
Is coming
This aged well. Still no XZ2 even announced 2 years later 😂
As a standalone controller this thing is second to none to any Dj who doesn’t care about playing on more than 2 decks. Anyone complaining about the jogwheels clearly hasn’t used it. They are responsive with adjustable torque, plenty big enough to serve their intended purpose, have displays on par with CDJ3000 jogs. The only difference is the size. Unless you’re a scratch DJ or a complete amateur this shouldn’t matter. Very few DJs use jogwheels to send off a track over hitting the play button. Any DJ worth their salt knows that riding the pitch until you have the mix locked is the pro way to do it, not using jogs or touching vinyl to adjust pitch.
I just upgraded from a pitiful entry level Numark to the RX3. I couldve afforded the XZ but the deciding factor was the bigger touchscreen with more features, better resolution and faster refresh rate and the additional features from the CDJ3000 not present in the older XZ model. This was far more important to me than bigger jogwheels (when I literally only ever use them to dial in a cue point in the rare event rekordbox analysis wasn’t accurate) or having 2 additional channels I don’t need. It’s also more portable and takes up less space in my small home studio room.
It’s the perfect unit for me, and I doubt they’ll release an XZ2 until there’s enough of a selling point to coax current XZ owners to upgrade, which won’t happen until they release a new gen of CDJs. If I owned an XZ already it’d take far more than a slightly bigger & better touchscreen to get me to pay out another 2 grand plus to upgrade
In short, aside from the extra 2 channels & slightly larger jogs, the XZ is the inferior and more dated unit for my needs. I buy my music so don’t need cloud music features to use streaming services. Streaming services are for cheapskates who’d rather line the pockets of tech billionaires than support their favourite artists. Never had a Spotify account and never will 🤷♂️
Beatport is a rip off compared to Bandcamp with limited downloads, extra cost for lossless audio and pay a smaller cut to artists, and are also owned by a shady corporation I can’t stand (LiveStyle / Live Nation / SFX Entertainment), who are essentially a venture capital group trying to buy up & monopolise everything in electronic music, so I’ve been boycotting them for as long as I can remember.
All I really cared about was getting a standalone unit with high end touchscreen capability. Because the Serato internal mixer sounds like ass, and the sound interface in my mixtrack platinum FX output some nasty hum on my Adam Audio 10” sub / 7” nearfield monitor setup. As soon as my library was analysed in RB, I uninstalled serato and will never look back 😂 honestly the XZ would feel like a downgrade for me personally from the RX3
The RX3 is the bollocks. And this video was pure clickbait. If you’d just said you wouldn’t buy it because you already own a last gen pioneer top end controller that cost more, I never would’ve even watched this stupid video lol
Thankyou captain obvious 🙄
You should be feeling pretty stupid right now after that waffle and the release of the AZ!😂😂
@@tropicaltrev1617 what 5 months later? Not really bro
I am the owner of the RX2 and there's not much on the RX3 that would make me upgrade. The RX2 does everything I need it to do and any limitations force me to be more creative. Yes, larger jog wheels would be nice but, at the price, there's a compromise. If I had a larger disposable income, I'd definitely go for the XZ.
I was going to buy it and I decided instead to get the DDJ-1000... I know you cannot compare them because this is a standalone controller, but seriously carrying a laptop to parties is not that much of a hassle. There's nothing about the RX3 that excites me....
If you have the RX2 I would agree with you that an upgrade is probably not worth it, although there are some notable good additional/improvements. However, if you do not have a potable unit and want one, this is the the perfect compromise between being portable and functional. De XZ is really a lot bigger, more expensive and most features added are only really important if you use more than 2 decks at once, otherwise the actual additional functionality is not perse worth the up over the RX3. RX3 seems to be the perfect middle ground for someone like me :)
It loads tracks too slow for me
the XZ is cool until you see that the other 2 channels on the mixer are pointless unless you have seperate CDJs
I agree, I have the RX2 and it does everything I need to pull off good mixes and the effects are more than enough
about 15+ years ago i learnt how to DJ from your channel on CDJ 200s yep 200s now i have played festivals on either side of the country and make a fulltime living from DJing thank you
i went with the RX3 for two reasons:
first, because the XZ technology is becoming obsolete as it’s based on the NXS2 and I don’t think it’s planned to be updated soon;
second, because I come from the DDJ 400 and although I’d need those extra features like feedback suppression, EQ on Master and other stuff, I recognize that for what I do and the usage I’m going to do, It would have been simply too much for me.
Obsolete?😂😂 looks like the pioneer marketing has worked on you. I suppose Rotary mixers and vinyl decks are obsolete technology too.
@@bgstemcd gotcha ahaha. What I’m referring to is a kinda of “planned obsolescence” when products in the market get an update, it doesn’t consist of minor changes here and there, but there are immediately noticeable improvements specifically requested, so that the customers are more leaning to update their equipment, even if it’s perfectly working, just because it looks “old”.
With other stuff, especially turntables, yes they’re obsolete as they’re been around for ages, but they really stand out in terms of the music culture itself. For this reason, they’re still under production nowadays, with the latest technologies and improvements.
Hey Francesco, how do you find the sound quality on the RX3?
@@deepsoulfulsounds simply fantastic… It may not be at the levels of the djm 900NXS2 but still it’s very impressive
@@LezGõr Glad to hear!
If it was the same retail price as the RX2, maybe it would've been a better value. But only $400 less than the XZ, I think it's not a good deal.
HI Jonathan I agree if you want that club feel.. Having come from the Original RX then RX2 to the XZ it was very difficult for me to go backwards to the RX3 although it was a needs must and the need to “Drop the Condo and go for a bungalow” situation where portability without the reduction in features was key for me.. Loved the XZ and still have it’s coffin in the Garage, but the RX3 is the standalone version of the DDJ800 I was craving for.. As you always quite rightly say, “It’s what works for you”.
Thanks for another great video brother..
The Rx3 is basically a standalone ddj800 however it has nothing on the Denon prime 2 which is cheaper and has more features but for some brand loyalty is more important
But can the Denon Prime 2 be used with Rekordbox?
@@CarlosMendez003 not with rekordbox via computer, if you have a usb/sd card with rekord box playlist on any prime device can read it.
.... as a former owner of XDJ-XZ .... having used it for two years, I must admit that it is and remains the Flagship of the Pioneer DJ house, but the size and heaviness of carrying it around led me to consider the purchase of the RX3. I have to admit that the visual impact is already different ..... but it's not all shit as you might think ..... first of all it has a new processor that loads files with a third of speed compared to the XZ, it has a display in step with the times, it has a sound that is similar to the XZ, like the same effects .... plus you don't need a trolley to move it ..... guys not all evil comes to harm.
Agreed! I’ve been a CDJ 900NX + 850K Mixer user for a long time but now I’m playing more private, family, and friend gigs where I travel so I’m finally getting an ‘all in one’ for ease of portability and travel. I’m with you, I think RX3 is the way to go in the sense that it’s the latest tech, it has the newest display look and feel. I’m not looking to play in any clubs anytime soon so the jog wheel won’t be an issue and besides I’ve never played on an XDJ RZ so I don’t know what I’d supposedly be missing. Correct?
@@CarlosMendez003 .... you got straight to the point. Rx3 is the best option for mobile dj's. I had the XZ for two years and it became a challenge every time, loading - unloading - carrying and vice versa. Rx3 is much more portable.
Due to how good the screen is, the RX3 is the closest controller to the standard Nexus pro set up. So if it's cheaper than the XZ, and closer to the pro gear, why on earth wouldn't you go for it? It being a bit smaller and lighter (imo) also helps. It's a great semi-pro bit of kit and bridges bedroom to club really well.
(PS) the jog wheels are absolutely fine. They feel quality. The size thing is a non issue.
What about the new opus ?? Have you tried one really like your reviews
RX2 is all I need. I got one at the beginning of the pandemic and it fit me perfect for home use and streaming. Plugged my tutntables into it. Can record direct to USB. Excellent effects too.
Quick question so you can just play regular records to the XDJ RX3? But not DVS or a phase system or a Rane Mk2 II
@@djstretchtone9851 yes. Ithas RCA inputs for turntables. And turntable option on each channel.
Is the XZ mk2 incoming? With the Nexus3k/rx3 screen..?
It's a bad business move for pioneer, because only rental companies and flagship clubs will buy the pro gear (CDJs & DJMs).. Or am I wrong?
Great Video Ellaskins, Indo find the build quantity of the XDJ-RX3 is lacking, my units both brand new arrived scratched up, the jog wheels and scratches, the screen bezel had deep scratches, the replacement which I had kept was better but still not perfect, some finer scratches around the control knob, but as you say in your video, this controller is NOT a replacement for a full DVS system, which I also own, it is however a great system that utilises many aspects of the full DVS feel, you could easily work on a club set up after using the XDJ-R2 and XDJ-RX3, perfect for home and small bar/club environment.
Makes a lot of sense from the feeling perspective.
Hi Ellaskins, I'm a longtime fan of yours and appreciate your contributions to the DJ community. I heard the sound quality of the RX3 is inferior to the RX2 on a forum and crappy overall on a forum. Would appreciate your thoughts on how it sounds. I bought one but haven't unboxed it since I'm thinking of trading for an XZ. I worry about the size, weight and smaller screen of the XZ as a mobile rig but the white version looks amazing.
Im debating a XDJ-XR...or a pair of CDJ2000NXs2's.....but im puzzled as why the RX3 got a bigger screen over the XR.
Any chance of a Denon prime 2 review , that's if you not already done one as thinking of buying one and would love to hear your opinion of it 👍
Hoping they'll release an XZ2 soon.
XDJ-AZ, your time is now
Always a pleasure coming back to your channel! ...beside the good content, your way of being really relaxes me. Thanks!
I just wish Pioneer would release a 2 channel controller with full sized jog wheels. I can't justify buying the XZ because I wouldn't be plugging anything extra into it. I don't have the money or the space for anything extra 😂
The ddj-1000s have full sized jog wheels, 4 channels and little screens in the jogwheels. great bit of kit but obviously can't use it standalone, need a laptop!
Thanks for your thoughts, but is there any chance you could help me out with the measurements of the unit excluding the screen? All measurements I can find are including the screen at 469mm but I'm a bit limited for space in my current setup. I currently have a set of old first gen 2000s and they fit snuggly where I have them set up.
Or to be blunt most of us have got a Laptop so save yourself best part of a Grand and pick up a DDJ1000 and you have even more functionality than both :)
The reason I went for a standalone unit was to get away from using a laptop. 🙂
@@Debagio Fair point
@Hello There i got hired to play for a gig in europe. And this was the top of the line event management company in the country, bringing in names like boris brejcha every year, to the house djs from glitterboxibiza. I was offered to close a party of over 5-6K people for a dj called erick morrilo in 2019 (RIP)
and i just asked the company if i can bring my ddj sb2 to play infront of thousands.. and they said sure, we'll help you set it up before the event starts.
So an hour before the doors open, i was already there placing my ddj sb2 on top of the v10 mixer, and next to me was a djm 900nxs2..
I just routed from my laptop to a soundcard i brought alone, and then connected to the djm 900nxs2
So this fear, of moving to cdjs or what not is not that terrifying if you just shoot them up and email about bringing your own equipment that you're comfortable with...
even when carl cox came to play, he just brought the traktor s8 to play, and when reineir zonneveld came to the same event, he brought his own equipment..
so its really not an issue..
incase you want to see what i was talking about, and my experience.. here
ua-cam.com/video/ccICZMEuygA/v-deo.html&ab_channel=BIGGYBEAR
notice how they helped me set up in the beginning
I was between XZ and RX3 after 8 years of using DJM850 with 2x traktor x1mk2 then they released opus quad and definitely killed my vibe so I bought the RX3 to preserve the feeling of cdjs at least at home :)
I bought the Xdj Rx3 . I love it but am realizing it doesn’t have pro link . Then 2 channels can be a bit limiting. Also I’m a pro Dj and clients look at a small controller and automatically think it can’t get the job done. I have 4 days left to return it and I’m thinking I may do that and get the Xz instead.
I've played with the RR and RX2 and I liked them both. Now after a few gigs in a bar with Nexus 900s and a DJM-900NXS2 and wanting 4 channels to play with I'm seriously thinking about the XDJ-XZ.
It's pretty big investment and I'm thinking is it worth it? And on the XZ, can you play with all 4 channels stand alone or do you have to hook it up to a laptop?!
used the xz and love it tbh. you cant use all 4 standalone like with the denon dj4prime where you can use 4 diff channels between the 2 built in decks - so you would need to link other cdjs w cable but you don’t need computer software to do that.✨
the xz, to utilize all 4 channels, you'd need to hook up external cdjs or other hardware.. there's no layering to it.. meaning you can't use all 4 channels on the xz alone
Hi, any news for the rx3 crashing problem?
Are you selling any equipment
Does the RX3 have a rumor of totaly Freezing... ramdomly?
It happened to me last time i was playing last week. Played for 4 hours... then... the last 40 min BOOM! The unit wasnt able to turn off, even. We hade to pull the power cable to restart it.
I googled around and it seems like many are asking for solutions on this same issue.
Is it just the firmware that needs to be up to date? (Its not my own gear... so its up to the venue to do that in that case. If im not asking to do it for them offc). Or is it due to corrupt files? And... if its corrupt files. How come Rekordbox doesnt recognize that there might be something wrong with the files... (bought on Beatport by the way). OR..... is it just cheep components inside the machine?
Firmware update
I'm looking to upgrade from a very old DDJ-SX. DDJ-800 size and features look great but the lack of duel USB killed that idea. I never use 4 channels so a 2 channel unit is fine. I'm really torn now between DDJ-1000 and the Rx3. The RX3 is a good 1k more than the 1000. It also has much better jog wheels but laptop only use.Rx3 can support standalone or laptop and has a built in pre amp for aux sources like a mobile phone. can anyone suggest between 1000 and Rx3?? Can't decide
I did not know the DDJ-SX but it seems to me that it's very good and enough with a computer. I use the FLX 6 with my laptop and that’s also enough for that. But I don’t want to use always a computer anymore, so now i've got the rx3 and i think it’s perfect !
I hate that you can't eq the beat fx.
When will there be a stand alone unit with send/return. Only thing stopping me from getting one.
Do you still do dj lessons?
My fellow 🏴 man, so upgrading from my RX2, your saying go for the XZ?
What if I don’t care for the 4 channel club feel from the xz but I want to easily transition from a controller to the clubs with a nexus set up, Will the xz still be the controller for that? Or will the rx3 suffice?
I have exactly the same "problem". Honestly I think the RX3 will be good enough for me and more up to date to the equipment used in clubs nowadays. Ofc a xz mk2 would be the best, but that will prob take a while, so I think imma go with the RX3 for the time being
@@roy3616 so I had an rx when it first came out and I was able to transition
To cdjs at that time with a few hiccups. I ended up buying the xz recently since I get it for my pro Price and figured I might as well go with the xz since I got it for the same price as a new rx3 at regular pricing. With that said. I wish they made the xz in a two channel since the 4 channels are useless. the extra channels are dead weight and they make the xz half useless, bulky and super heavy for lugging around for gigs as fully rounded piece of equipment. The Benefit of the xz is that, you will have absolutely no problem or speed bumps “at all” when moving to cdjs at a club or a gig with a permanent set up.
@@mallkrawlerz620 Thx for your explanation, I have a ddj-rx atm and only use those other 2 channels for my mic and aux (both seperate on rx3) so I know I'm not going to use the other channels. So as far as I see the only difference is the screen (and formfactor) and I really don't care about the price of my gear (rx3 is around $250 cheaper in my country), it's an investment and I'd reather buy good stuff than cheap out. So in my mind id reather go with the bigger screen, because im used to the bigger screen of my laptop and the new functions this screen brings.
If you connect a turntable to it would it record this too when you go to record a DJ set?
Yes
I own 2 units of RX1. It’s still in my possession & I would never upgrade them because they are just solid all-in-one machines. RX2 & RX3 are just overkill
The problem now is that they are not available
Back in the day I had all my 12” trance records. Now I’m getting into the usb and cdj where can I buy proper 12” versions of the tracks I already have Amazon download is very hit and miss and Juno don’t seem to do downloads at all any more. Thanks Ben.
So you're saying you can't buy music on Juno Download??
@@djstretchtone9851 ahh that solved the problem I was only looking at Juno music not this one! Great now I can get shopping! Thanks 😊
Thanks to your videos from about 10 years ago i got better in DJing...
Rumours is there won't be an XDJ-XZ mk 2 until late 2024/2025 at the earliest. The XZ is selling that well that Pioneer can't keep it on the shelves in a lot of regions.
Only having a max beat jump of 8 on the "flagship" XZ makes baby Jesus cry
I’m happy and good with the XDJ-RX1! ✅💯😎😎🤘🏽I’m use to the lay out and settings
Rx3 or rev7?
Answers please!
This helps a lot, thanks! - I've been considering buying either an XZ or an RX3. I still wonder about the difference in screen size though.
(Perhaps a new version of the XZ will have the larger screen same as the RX3)
Could you say anythig about comparing the two screen sizes of these units? Don't you find the current XZ screen size too small? - I would go to a shop to trial them both for screen size comparisons but there seems to a shortage at the moment on stock.
Looks like todays release of the Opus-Quad has solved the dilema Ive bneen pondering - has the bigger screen and the 4 channels. (Just as you predicted tin another vid they were no doubt at work developing something!)
I’d love an Rx3 or even 2x cdj-2000 and a djm-800 😅
I'm after the numark mixstream Pro, used to bedroom dj 20 years ago on belt driven decks lol, the price for me is really good, any thoughts as space is really tight and don't want to spend more on a laptop
@@petersmith2522 that's why I'm interested in the numark as it's an all in one that's running the same dj software as the higher priced all in one controllers and it's a fraction of the price
Mixstream Pro is a great entry to the Engine/Denon Prime ecosystem :)
Hi I've never used hardware yet. I mix all my muisc software only. I'd like to know. If I bought this standalone. How does it record? Do I need an extra software? I'm looking for decks I can simply mix my mp3 s from a USB and record back onto USB keeping same mp3 format. Can this do new RX3 do this ?
Nah u can record to your USB, there's a record button on the hardware
@@skrillaskrilla9166 so I can record onto UBS . ok thanks
Does that make sense really what you just said 0:22
Allo mate, I have the xdj xz which I love. I also have the pioneer xdj3000 on the end.. lately I am having problems taking tunes out of rekordbox, with tunes I’ve downloaded from beatport? I can’t take tunes from beatport and put on USB to play out.. ?? Any idea why I can’t ? Thanks mate and love the tutorials
"all of a sudden you can't climb up the stairs" Lmao. Great vid
Just get the Prime 4 , and your all set ,
Never ever again a prime unit. I already ripped off 2 line faders. The quality is laughable. Got it repaired on warranty because the construction of the faders is outright criminal. Just no, Denon.
Prime is more of a "toy"-like quality product compared to "professional"-like quality and feel of Pioneer products.
Prime cant handle heavy performance...
Quality of the denon gear is terrible. EQs, faders and filter all suck ass.
Can i connect a RMX1000 to RX3???? it has to be with external computer?? or it could be better with XDJ-RZ??? ahELP ME PLEASE eLLASKINS OR PEOPLE
U can connect it to rx3 but it will be tricky, probably you wold need to connect it directly between RX and your speakers, because there is No send out. On The other hand the XZ dont have the send/return loop so you cant plug it directly to XZ but you could plug it to spare chanel and have full control on samples from RMX.
Johnathan am considering buyiing a prime 2/4 or the rx out of the 3 what would u advise ??
I would pick the prime 2, when you only need 2 channels. The prime 4 is way to heavy. Awesome machine but i only need and use 2 channels.
I have the prime 4 and I agree with Frank. If you only use 2 channels, go with the Prime 2. Less sound color FXs, but overall very close to the 4.
Thanks for the advice folks
Sadly not used the prime series so I can’t help you sorry
don't listen to any of the reviews. All biased and not fair. You have to go test out the kits - see what feels better to you. Check out rekordbox and engine. Decide if streaming more important or beat and sound fx. All these decisions will decide what is best FOR YOU. All this bashing of equipment is bs. I use both denon and pioneer and each is better at what they do - but me as the dj and the gig/music I am playing, style of gigs etc determine what I need. I prefer my pioneer gear but at times denon comes in handy. You will know what fits best once you can answer these questions. You cant go wrong with any modern controllers nowadays. That is the truth. So again dont listen to the whiners who say pioneer sucks, behind the times. They have a specific niche and kill it. Denon finding its niche and doing well there too.
Hello is the extra £300 worth getting xz
just put it simply hes a equipment snop that simple
Wel I’m probably getting my first deck. I think to go for the rx3 because I’m new to djing (although not completely. I did practiced on professional cdj2000’s ) but i never owned my own dj gear. The reason i would pick the rx3 is that the xz doesn’t really has 4 deck channels that work right out of the box…sure, you can buy more stuff and expand but for me that’s not important yet. I do think pioneer might upgrade to a xz2 so in the meanwhile i can practice on a bit cheaper model with rhe newer tech to then upgrade to the newer version xz2 later on 🤷 hope that it gets a bigger screen because it’s much easier to read tacks on…
Can you give me a good site on where I can start purchasing music and thank you .
cdpool in the uk is great
@@ellaskins can u get free music from cdpool
Only difference is the $1,000 price tag difference lol. But I agree. The ZX is overall better. Basically, go all in or not (minimum)
I wouldn't buy it either. $2000 for a two-channel device with tiny jogs.
They never give us everything we need, do they? I wouldn’t buy it because no key synch button.
stupid click bait post. these are great for many people and the other pioneer gear is just 2 expensive these days. its crazy business model.
Man that larger screen though.
My eyes are getting older.
This is exactly why I’m waiting for an xz2
me too
Lol....I don't get what you're saying....
Hey Jonathan You speculate that XZ2 which I’m waiting for soo long, will have finally 4 channel with thumb drive capability cause we know it will get bigger screen.. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
And hopefully wifi support too!
Inevitable I think
@@ellaskins
Could you please make a vid regarding this directed at Pioneer
as you are aware your voice will be heard.. in other words 4 channel mixing with thumb drive plus big screen plus other improvements
you could think of 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🎧🎤🔊
I think that would come to the XDJ-XZ2 hopefully
@@LegendaryMaoMao20
We all holding our breath So that Pioneer would listen to us🤦♂️🙏🏻🙏🏻
Love the mokum slipmatt ;) Mok56 for the win :D
Just ordered another RX9
But you bought it though 🤔🤔
except its still usb 2.0. and its slow.
Needed this video🙏🏽 the choice is clear now
I just pre ordered rx3 really wonder how many months it will take to come. 😂 love your vids btw buddy 👍🏼
Good to see you still doing dj videos i watched alot of your video when i first started djing 😎👍
me too ;-)
I wish I could say you know what your on about but... You don't. I have the XDJ RX3 and is such an amazing controller.
The XZ is 4 channels not everyone needs that, do you want to pay extra few hundred for more channels? I'd rather have the big touchscreen
The purpose of this video is a to waste your time… no specification comparison and such..
After watching this video I finally made up my mind. I'll go for the XZ. Thanks, Jonathan!
You will not be disappointed
@@ellaskins I've been thinking about getting the XZ as well. Do you think there's any chance of XZ 2 coming out this year?
@@mlawler8 even if they do release an xz2 it will surely be a couple hundred more than an xz, pushing towards the budget of going modular with separate players and a mixer anyway
This video is literally pointless! Basically your saying you wouldn't buy it because PERSONALLY you like the xz better, many people think like that but don't put a misleading video out there! Besides the xz is a completely different unit designed for a different purpose, it's a 4 channel for use with external players, I can not see any reason at all why this video was made!
With the Prime 4 its achillies, is it doesnt switch from standalone to Laptop seemlessly so awkward for weddings and backups, plus the build isnt the best and jog wheels all over the place, the prime 2 is great value at £1000 at the moment, but you have to use Engine OS with it, another peice of software to get the grips with, not rocket science but still another software. The reality is, If you want to get into clubs its pioneer only. If you want tthe club jog feel, then its XZ, the SRT1000 or rekordbox version is great but it doesnt give you practice with USB stand alone mixing.
The reality is the XZ does it all... yes its big, but its one device that does it all. I can't bare buying a 1000 and a Rx3 at £3000 vs XZ £2000 and having better built in effects than both put together. Let alone better pre amps, better sound and more flexibilities. Serato, Rekordbox and Standalone. even works with VDJ too. Plus DVS etc etc Those jog wheels alone are worth it and when the time is right you can go full club mode off one use and record to the other regardless of music source, the microphones control too... plus an AUX... seriously. Its where its at... not many XZ owners moving to Prime 4, but plenty coming back to pioneer from Prime 4... The prime 4 is a great wedding setup with inputs, but its still heavy. I use a Roland DJ707m, has all the connectivity and Zone output you will ever need, plus Mic's, Aux, built in effects, drum machine for redrumming old track, sampler etc etc. its just personal preference. The XZ can always come to play when im feeling stong, but reality is you only lift it to the car on wheels in the case and lift it out the case at the venue... If you are playing with Subs, its not even the heaviest thing you will be sorting out.
If pioneer make an xz mk2 ? Then the only thing they can add is a bigger screen same as the 3000.. in my book and I’m from 1210’s to 850mk2 and now xz and 3000. I have it all and man the mixing now I can do is INSANE
Going from a Native instruments S8 -> RX3 unit: I can justify it lol
i wouldnt buy it cause you cant stream or sequence
Kin ell, you dragged that out mate
if they put this screen on xz it will be dream
love it thank you!
Your ex wife ... what? Bro your trippin, why would you discuss this with on your review of technology
Thanks for the info.
MOKUM RECORDSS LETSGOOOOOO
Pioneer just jump to Opus quad 🥰
I own the quad and it's just a piece of art
I've got a bit confused here. You're saying I shouldn't swap my wife for an RX3, but maybe for an RX9 in the future - as long as I found it down the road?
THANKS A LOT G!
DDJ-1000s r deffo better then them I personally think
I use sb2 😓 pioneer
9/10 however, it’s Zed, not Zee. You are British. Don’t forget your roots.
If DJ man can't work a pair of turners, I can't take DJ man seriosly. Yeah well I'm in my 50s and stuck in my ways🌚👍
this was the video I needed, thanks!
So much waffle man, get to the point
Very interesting thank you !
This aspect of DJing is really embarrassing lol as someone who leveraged aesthetics all the time for promotion. Lol
I will absolutely take function over aesthetics tho.
Maybe enter a gig with a little more skill or add like an MPC sampler or something.
I feel like there are better ways to take up real estate and make yourself feel more confident about the value of our art form.
I produce and sing and I’m a multi instrumentalist. But I’m second to few as a Dj and my skills stand alone.
The way we convince each other to get less for our money or spend more is ridiculous. If a club wants club gear they can go out and buy some 3000s.
Guarantee you’ll likely get more money from a club that’s got an xz or 3000s there’s than one that’s gonna make you bring your own mixer & CDJs lol
Lol
Pioneer CDJ3000 sold and replace them for the Denon SC6000M after using the Pioneer cdj,s over more than 20 years with always issues and deffaults and the Denon,s have no problems with that, the Denon,s loads the track faster than the cdj3000 have better sound quality, the more options etcetera, Pioneer DJ is overpriced
So give me the rx3 then 😂