The Pioneer XDJ-XZ Vs. Full CDJ Setup - How Do They Compare?...
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2019
- Today I compare the brand new Pioneer XDJ-XZ with the club standard CDJ-2000NXS2 & DJM-900NXS2. I talk features and price to decipher what the big differences are between them.
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I think its a good thing when all the info is smashed on 1 screen. It still includes all the same info of both tracks and you don't have to jump between 2 screens to get the info you want. just 1 screen = all info. xz is the best thing pioneer has ever made I feel.
Never thought of that 🤔
soy de habla hispana y me costo mucho encontrar este video, me ha servido un monton, gracias
You have no idea how helpful this was
My pleasure Komet Kid 🙏
the new CDJs are a kick in the face for actual CD DJs, since it's not an actual cd player.
I'm glad they have the all in one units, but the club standard gear is kind of impractical. Sure it might be nice to own, but it's so nice having one thing that does it all. (the standalones do double as just straight up mixers too)
Yeah and to be fair if you practice at home on XZ then your basically ready to go use club gear anyway
why would anyone choose to use CD over USB in this day and age?
Thank you. Very useful video.
Man this is very helpful... you have no idea, thank you!
🤙 you are welcome my friend
I like that the XDJ XZ is virtually what is described in this video; a nxs2 club standard setup. For that reason I am going to get me one.
Exactly, such perfect full DJ system for the price!
Dude this reviews was precisely what i'm looking for
valuable content, thanks.
Thank you brother 🤙🤙
How about the sound card of both? How’s the sound quality on them compared? I have an xz but have never played with a Cdj system
This thing is a beast!
A few months ago I was very confused between getting a DDJ or an XDJ. My problem is that I couldn't decide which controller nor which All-In-One I wanted/needed. (ddj800 vs ddj1000 vs XDJ-RX2 vs XDJ-XZ).
I understood quickly that the XZ was the way to go in terms of an all in one. In the vontroller side it was much more difficult. I'm a mobile Dj and I do weddings most of the time, so I only use 2 channels to mix. But the ddj1000 really seems as a better tool in general. I finally decided I needed the DDJ 800 and wanted the XDJ-XZ. I didn't went for the RX2 because it doesn't give me the master EQ nor the independent 3 band EQ on mics (plus the other 2 channels available and the on jog displays). And I didn't went for the ddj 1000 because it only gave me 1 more channel (800 has an aux channel), bigger jogs (which i dont mind since I have played alwas with a ddj sx) and a second USB that seems to be the best feature it gains, but I can throw in an anolg mixer and make the other Dj arive with his controller.
I think it is a long comment and a very useless one for most other Djs and enthusiasts, but I wanted to share my choice and this video seemed like the best place to do it.
P.D. I already bought my DDJ 800, but this fu***ng virus and the harsh times I am going through stopped me from buying the XZ (for now).
Hey, this isn't a useless comment at all, I find myself checking if I should be getting a cdj or one of these.
@@yonki-delos-inciensos thanks man, honestly. Get the XDJ. It is the most efficient way to get it all (in my opinion) and then get cdjs if you need to expand
I have the XZ, love this machine! It's a beast!
@@69sound81 Indeed! That's also what my thoughts were. But i doný think i'll even add even 1 cdj to it ;-) 2 channels is enough for my musicstyle. More players will make it sound messy. When i add something, it will be a sampler... in the future.... No hurry
This was really useful thank you. Tempted to sell my Traktor S4 and replace with one of these!
You are very welcome. You certainly wouldn't be disappointed if you made that decision 👍👍👍
literally the reason why im here right now. i have the mk2 s4
@@tw1zt3dk1lla Hahah same
agree in 2023..who plays CD's.. makes sense that now there's no CD slot in the 3000. crazy how expensive the xz is now... its 2500 to 3000. Compared to 2000 USD, that more or less it was in 3 years ago at least in your country at the time of this video.
Love your vids man. Never feels like you're trying to sell me something. More like hanging out with a a guy who's on the front lines and knows his stuff. Been spinning in circles for weeks now trying to decide what set-up I need to move on to, after the 2 turntables, Serato SL1 and DJM-300 have finally gone to the cemetery. These have been super helpful
What a lovely comment. Thanks Aaron buddy 🤟 what have you ended up going for? Or atleast what are you leaning towards?
@@KizawaDJ Dawg, I'm really thinkin the Prime 4. Today while browsing reviews and scrolling commens sections, I had the sort of moment of clarity. I'm the perfect candidate for that thing. I have no relationship whatsoever to Rekordbok or Pioneer. I am a completely clean-slate. Bigger jogs, small jogs.. again, I have no idea. I've never used a cdj. This is all gonna be new to me, why not take a chance on the company that's working twice as hard to stay innovative and compete with the big-dog company and the price is good! There are new ones floating around for under $1,500 here in the states. Again, thanks for helping to sort of steer me through all the noise out there.
thx for the review. great comparison! I play at different venues, and on my rider, I always ask for cdj2000 and djm800 or more recent. Now that I own a xdj xz for a fair price, I can practice my sets at home, and when I have to play at a venue, it feels no diffferent. The only question I have is, when there is damage due too somebody spilling a beer or something over the xz, is it also repairable just like the professional players? There are no visual screws or what so ever on the XZ. There is a big price difference, and when a cdj or your djm get's damaged you can put the damaged product for repair. While the XZ is an all in one...
Just got the xz and love it but I wanted the Cdj 3000 so bought that also now them 2 paired up together is a beast Of a setup 3 decks plus my DJS 1000 I’m good for a while now oooh and excellent video very informational thank you 🙏🏾
Are you able to key sync the XZ decks using the CDJ 3000? I have the same set up but it appears the key sync is not compatible with the XZ.
Coming up in a slightly underground basement party scene CDJs were viewed as a necessity, like a DJ wasnt legit if he didnt spin on CDJS there was a sort of condescending air towards controllers and laptops and the like. As ive matured and graduated to wedding gigs rather than K parties, ive started to see that the true best system is the one that works every time with minimal issues, allowing you to play your tracks seamlessly, keep the dance going, and field requests if possible. It has to look legit too, and as Traktor have officially discontinued sjpport for the Kontrol series, my dorky s4 js going to have to become a wall hanging.
I had the Nexus 2 CDJs and mixer, along with the RX2 with a case for mobile gigs, but I "upgraded" to the XZ for an all in one home and mobile system ☺️
Is the XZ really ideal for mobile DJ? I'm planned to buy the XZ and a pair of NXS2 to using at home. Do some outdoor event with the XZ but the weight of this things it's just make me confused
@@d_m1nhh I mean it's pretty much a mobile nx2 system, it's just a bit heavier and bigger than the RX2, I am 6'2, 175 so it's not too bad to haul as long as you have a flight case, I got the Odyssey FZPIXDJXZWBL for it so it has wheels as well if you don't want to use just the handle.
@@est3ban21 so with the case the total weight is around 61,72lbs right? I'm concern about it because I mostly using motorcycle to travel with so not sure how can I travel with it
@@d_m1nhh no it's it about 35-40 pounds, but yeah I think any controller with the case is too big for a motorcycle to travel with.
@@est3ban21 wait what? I thought they said on the website that the case was 33 pounds itself?
You should learn how to beat match in your head, I learned of 2 Gemini turntables back in 93. But I just sold my mixer and 2 cdjs, and bought this,and useing it with 2 more cdj nx2s. Im tryn to figure this controller out because ive never spun on one in my life,until today when I bought the XZ.
I bought djm 750 mk2 I have older cdj players at home and vinly player... But this one piece set up saving money for sure
Yeah it's an absolute bargain! Thanks for watching
I have 750mk2, great mixer I use it with 2 sc5000m' s ..... had nxs2 players, hate to say it but the denons are a way better player
Good recession 👌what quality sounds xz vs nexus 900nx2 cdj 2000nx2
DJM mixer has MIDI OUT to sync any MIDI device with MIDI clock...XZ you have to use PRO LINK.
One difference worth pointing out that you didn't mention - there is no proper send/return on the XZ for external effects, so you cant really use RMX1000 etc. I guess you can put it on a channel fader or master channel but it's not the best way. The OPUS QUAD that just got released fixed the problem about 4 decks BUT it's drifted further from the club standard setup.. both a pro and con.
You can return to the AUX .?
If you need to play CDs or need 4 deck's get 2 cdj1000 mk3 cheap and plug in using line ins to mixer ?
Can use CDs or timecode?
I've had the XZ for about 3 months and think it's a massive win win. Serious set up and love having the 4 channel availability.
Do find the single screen a bit distracting tbh and find myself focusing a bit too much on the waveforms instead of my ears. Doesn't help when there appears to be a lag but it's only visual. Apart from those little and a few other miner things, I think this thing is amazing!
Question I do have for anyone who knows... Does anyone find the mixer controls are more sensitive on this XZ and has anyone been having issues with it reading USB drive?
can you key shift on the xdj xz?
@@brianwoelke2878 in standalone mode, no. Only master tempo. You can do it using it as a controller with rekordbox I think but to be honest in that situation you are better off with DDJ1000 or FLX10
Watching in 2022 (considering buying 2000s second hand) - nae performance pads on the 3000s!
Mate I’ve watched a couple of your vids now and think you’re reviews are next level. Seriously honest.
Can I pick your brain!? Prime 4 vs Xz? I’ve watched your video and still can’t decide. I’m currently running a DVS Traktor but want to ditch the laptop altogether. Why do I feel drawn towards the more expensive unit which has half the capability? All being said I will have 2 x technics 1200 alongside to ?play vinyl... although my actual vinyl collection is small and growing v slowly!!
Thanks for the kind words bro, I'm glad you like my vids 🤟 and honestly, I'm the exact same. I'm about to upgrade to an all in one and I can't help but to be drawn to the XZ. Its just pioneer isn't it. It comes with the prestige of the past. Seriously though, you should get the Prime 4. Your overall mixing experience will without a doubt be better. Either way, you're getting an amazing system and won't be disappointed.
DJ Kiz Walsh cheers man - really helpful words. I’ve never dabbled on Denon or pioneer (ridiculous I know!) as always had the trusty Technics 1200s. Time to move away from DVS, laptop and to an all in one set up. Toyed with the sc5000 setup but would be a mare lugging it around etc. You’d go with prime 4 tho right?
Nice man, I think you'll enjoy the change! Put it this way, its the system that I'm getting. Insanely powerful and so much cheaper than the XZ!
DJ Kiz Walsh agreed man. But I keep coming back to this ‘pioneer is the best’ idea. Buddies told me to avoid Denon as gimmicky and stick with the solid build. I’ve got 2 technic 1200s and feel they’d be better either side of the XZ too? What you think?
Hello , one really important question for me. Is there any possibility to connect Pioneer RMX 1000 station to XDJ-XZ in same way like for example to DJM 900NXS2 ?? I would like to take full advantage of its possibilities.
yeah,however you would need to plug master 2 into the rmx then the output of the rmx into your speakers
@@hzkilla7551 Thanks a lot
Not good at all. limits it very much
I think it’s worth the extra money and investing in a DDJ- RZX, it irons out most of what you said was the difference between this one and the full Nexus rig and it’s only a grand more.
Yeah, but DDJ-RZX only runs on rekordbox, and it's a VERY BIG controller.
Xz is standalone and can be used with rekordbox performance mode and serato dj pro.... rz is okay- not even in the same ballpark as the xz
Hi, regarding audio comparisons with the XDJ-XZ and the CDJ-2000 NXS2 and DJM 900 is there any difference in sound quality? ;)
Quality is top notch on both. Won't notice any difference. Maybe on a festival £1,000,000 speaker system... anythig else, it will be negligible
@@KizawaDJ okay thanks, to be more precise are these systems using the same sound cards etc?
@@djsquibby XDJ XZ uses a newer generation of the DJM 750MK2 soundcard. So better than this mixer, but the DJM NXS2 has a better one. You won't notice any difference at home or smaller speaker setups, only at big festival setups, like already mentioned.
@@johscholz97 cool ;)
Hey guys, do you know if i can connect the XZ with a pair of CDJ2000 NXS? I‘m Not Talking about NXS2‘s! Thank you
yes
Are you top tier ticker?
@DJ Kiz Walsh
if I get this, then get two cdj's, can 1 usb queue tracks to each of the four decks?
Not sure, my guess is that you will have to have 2, one for the XZ and one for the two linked CDJs...
Yes it can , as long as you use 2 link cables to connect each of the CDJ's to the XDJ-XZ. Easily done :)
Thank you for sharing the knowledge!
Yes you can
What is up! Thanks for the vidéo . What about soundcard and sound quality. How do they compare? Cheers
These are both top tier systems, they will both sound crust clear.
Cheers man, thank you for your answer, can you be more specific about the specs with the XDJ? What is funny is i can't find anywhere the specs for the controler, however easy task to find it for the NXS2. BTW, i enjoy your videos, thank you ;-)
@@maolam I've contacted Pioneer asking for full technical specifications, waiting for their reply. All I could find was, XDJ XZ frequency range is 20-20000 HZ and signal to noise ratio is 114DB. The Pioneer CDJ 2000 NXS2 frequency range is 4-40000 HZ and signal to noise ratio is 115DB. The Pioneer DJM 900 NXS2 frequency range is 20-40000 HZ.. The XDJ XZ is about a third of the price of two CDJ 2000 NXS2 and the DJM 900 NXS2. Got a strong feeling the spec's of the
XDJ XZ won't be as good as the
CDJ 2000 NXS2 etc. I'm still toying with the idea of buying the XDJ XZ but will wait for confirmation of the spec's ;)
@@djsquibby Hello, i have had it for a few month now, it is good but not near as good as NXS2, good enough for the price though ;-)
@@djsquibby you ever get a reply?
I LOVE MY XDJ-XZ!!
Amazing system. Definitely the one I'd go for
It really depends on ones needs. If my collection was all FLAC files then this XZ would not be any good for me. I am disapointed that Pioneer left FLAC support out of this AIO. I love their products but I feel like they are holding back from giving you more features.
Exactly my feeling too. I wasnt aware that they left FLAC out of the supported file types. It sucks that they keep leaving features out!
Easy couple clicks automated conversion to AIFF and you will have a music collection that plays and sound pristine on every usb media player on planet earth
@@franciscojaviergomez4807 I already have prestine sound with FLAC. And I can store more files. AIFF files are larger.
Tom O not much of an issue with today’s storage prices and available sizes
@@franciscojaviergomez4807 Yea but I already have prestine in FLAC. You can go with AIFF, I'll stay with FLAC.
Hold the Door
The difference is the price
Id like to see how it handles turntable sound
Me too! Hopefully someone will make a video with them so we can see 🤘
@@KizawaDJ I just made a video about it. ua-cam.com/video/5m7U1vmjOrM/v-deo.html
@@djJanusLauvring where's the turntables man? all I see are CDJs.
@@DJFeelsGoodman i though you ment how they emulate the turntable sound.. I have turntable also. What kind of video you want with Them?
@@djJanusLauvring Just curious to know the quality of the phono inputs from turntables
Xdj xz better or cdj 3000??
I've got an XZ. (Before i had a RX2). XZ is all-in-one....CDJ3000 is just 1! (media)player.
I have an RX2 and want to buy a full Dj Set Up, 2x XDJ 1000 mk2 and a DJM 750 MK2 or even a DJM 900 nxs2 Price between 3500€ and 4500€... and on the other side there is the XZ for 2200€...
Get ehe XZ! Much better value. You won't be disappointed
I'm in the same situation now, what did you do?
@@alexwood482 XDJ 1000 mk2 and DJM 750 MK2 Set Up 😁👌🏽 I'm really very satisfied and don't miss anything compared to the big setup
@@toni_hitman sorry only just seen our response that awesome bro! I went the other direction and got the XZ, may add a XDJ-1000Mk 2 or a CDJ2000nxs2 at some point tho!
If you are on the lookout and have some patience you can buy a HQ "as new" secondhand NXS2 setup for half price. I got 2x CDJ NXS2 and a DJM750mk2 (got this one to have hardware unlock RB6, 900NXS2 doesn't have that) for 3000, incl decksavers. Main reason, I like modular better than standalone
It dosnt have the same specs regarding club use.... pioneer hasn't shot themselves in the foot as they have been very clever about it... something no one ever talks about but its so important for club use.... the SOUNDCARD... it won't sound nearly as good on a big sound system as the nxs2 set up
From what I've heard it sounds great. Where's your evidence of terrible sound.
@@jeremywhyte-hemson3589 Ok, i hear the difference between the RX2 i've had before my XZ.... The XZ is more powerfull and sounds cleaner.. But i don't think the audiance will hear any difference between a nxs2 setup and the XZ. Love my XZ!
you get cdj system for 5.5 k vs xdj xz with two DDJ 1000 on sides for 3.8 k , meaning 4 powerful decks with waaaayy more to offer with pads , samplers etc , brainless choice right?
Exactly... exciting times ahead for DJing gear.
Xz v prime 4 ?
I already made a video on it! Check it out!
Cd oldschool bwa haha
Just bought an XZ to make playing on CDJ’s more familiar! Basically the same (if not more with the performance pads) for a third of the price.
Still waiting for them to turn up though so I can have a play... said expect late august when I bought them and it’s now changed to September 😑
Yep, thats the only problem with the XZ. I ordered a Prime 4 and got it the very next day. Although I'm sure you will enjoy it when it comes.
I bought mine beginning of july. Like you i was told mid to late august, then mid sept. but, i have just been told they will now be with me by mid next week at the latest.
In tha club all in one system is not a good idea. I some thing break you need to change the all the system for cdj you can buy only one piece of equipement. I have a clib trust me djs dont care about gear
The Denon Prime 4 is why Pioneer made the XZ. They had to make it. They did a good job. Denon just did a better job. The Denon is a true no computer 4 channel stand alone controller. Also having wifi streaming capability puts it in a class that Pioneer can't touch at the moment.
I have a video out soon comparing all the standalone systems and working out which one is best! The Denon prime 4 is in that video! Keep an eye out
You dont now what you talk about! XZ was signed and boxed way before Prime 4 was realeased. This is not a answer from Pioneer against Prime 4!
The prime is awesome, but the jogs are too small for me. However, the sc5000/sc5000m line have very nice jogs, the latter being better, in my opinion.
@@scratch1200s I agree, i just bought the SC5000M's with the X1800 mixer, i wouldn't go near Pioneer right now, well overpriced compared!
Denon Prime 4 has tiny Jogwheels, that alone turned me off. Love my XDJ-XZ.
You don't need 4 decks on them they are layered. You can mix 4 channels all ready.
Still only 2 channels stand alone, no way buying this thing. you still need external cd players, Pioneer failed making it a real 4 mp3 stand alone.
precisely, hopefully they can make one soon!
Agreed, but you can still make the most of 4 decks with Rekordbox for practice for full club set up.
Can do 4 channel with laptop..otherwise yea go cheap and more value with denom prime 4
Advantage with Pioneer Xdj XZ is you can use USB and laptop at the same time, so you can do audio mixing with USBs and Video mixing via laptops on other 2 channels.
With the Denon Prime 4 it's either 4ch standalone or laptop, I understand you have ro reboot the unit to standalone or laptop, this is let down on P4 also the jog wheels or really for scratching, it's fine for beat mixing.
Overall the Pioneer is yesterday's controller, compared to P4, wish it had a bigger screen and touch mode with wifi streaming
Keep in mind that the xdj is half the price.. Just saying
Yes, watch ths full video dude...
Completely missed/ignored the difference in sound quality of the mixers, sample rate of the players, etc.
There's a reason the big rigs are more expensive.
On home setups and nightclub systems the difference in sound quality is negligible. What's the point in me talking about "the big rigs" when that's less than 0.1% of the people watching?
@@KizawaDJ What's the point?
No offense intended. Just a bit of feedback on something that was clearly missing.
You're already into the thousands of $$ with this bit of kit. It's not a toy. It's worth talking about.
(Hint: That's a large part of the reason why the standalone gear is more expensive.)
"Sound quality" is an important part of the equation.
If you didn't do this research, don't know enough to evaluate this, or can't hear well enough to address the differences...or, y'know, if you're one of those guys who thinks mp3s are "just fine", nevermind...
The point is I'm making a video for the fans of this industry. Maybe they're thinking of getting an XZ, Maybe they are looking at getting an old set of CDJs. It's a discussion about features and specifications. I'm not a professional sound engineer, nor do I want to be. Im sure the higher end equipment performs better on the big stage. This video isn't for the big stage. CamelPhat aren't going to watch this video and go oh yeah, DJ Kiz Walsh said the XZ is better value so I'm getting that! Its of course for the bedroom DJs / Mobile / Club DJs who want the main differences between the two setups. Stop overthinking and just enjoy it for what it is.
true! Love my XZ@@KizawaDJ