NOTES! 1) There will be an Army Guide Part 2! If you wonder why I haven't done others. Watch this: ua-cam.com/video/_lfHWcobJiI/v-deo.html I'll be trying something out with this faction so we'll see how it goes. 2) Lore of Hashut Guide up in a few days 3) If you want to see the unit prices in custom, I'll do a post to UA-cam so keep an eye out on my community tab. **fist bump**
@@mysterymastermind175 Think it actually had to have thinner armour than you'd expect to help it move around as well as having the slightly exposed mechanical components that are weak spots.
@@michaeltyler4083 plus a lot of its bulk is engines and pistons that allos it to move around. The fireborn have a body of liquid metal, which is why they're dealt with more easily than a k'daai destroyer
Interesting that hobbos' don't have expendable, so they won't care if the laborers/slaves rout, but since they don't have contempt, dwarfs won't care if they rout, so CA (seemingly) nailed it and made the three levels of chorf society work in the gameplay And I like how all the artillery is single entity, good way to balance the OP-ness without actually making the unit bad
Yeah I reckon bringing multiple cheap artillery units will provide a cost-effective counter to Chorf artillery. Playing as Empire I think you'd typically want to bring a couple of great cannons plus a decent amount of cav, for example.
Feel like the regular Dwarf ranged units could really benefit from the "Dig In!" ability. Since the whole roster incentivizes static gameplay I think that abilities like these could make it more rewarding and viable. Giving something similar to their melee units would also help.
This is in line with what ItalianSparticus has been saying, that now that we have the CDs, regular old dawi are looking pretty lackluster. These guys have artillery, mobile war machines, cav, monsters, multi-role lords, and sturdy dawi infantry and ranged bois. Meanwhile, no significant dwarf updates in ages, the bois need some roster updates.
@@GamerX13X what are you talking about Dwarfs had a fairly big rework when Ironbrow came out. They still have amazing artillery, Runes, way more range options, free slayers. Dwarf mains act like they never get anything meanwhile way more factions have barely been touched in comparison.
Chaos dwarfs seem so strong and thought out. The abilities from the heroes are really good and harmonize well with the roster. DLC powercreep is real but damn they seem so fun to play!
@@theasorlins6027 I'd say going wide and trying to outflank them. Or maybe go artillery because they are very slow and some units get slower over time
They seem stronger 1v1 than most other races comparable units, but they're also horrendously expensive with the dreadquake mortar costing something like ~3500 gold making it the most expensive unit in the game. There's also unit caps for most of the dwarf roster, meaning you can't field large armies of high tier units as easily as other factions.
@@RaccooNooB I have to disagree about the expensive part they have lots of chaff infantry that can be buffed by hero's in MP, also great mid tier infantry for melee and missile units. Turin has been making viable builds with them having 1200ish unit counts. The main issue with them I think in MP will be the poor flying roster (only single entities, no harpies etc.) also they have no magic defense race trait like the Dwarves, but still are sitting ducks against Pit of Shades and big AOE spells that delete infantry clusters. All over still strong faction, probably B tier and hard to counter pick much like the Tomb Kings. Cant wait!
Chaos dwarfs are about to become my favorite faction and its not even close. My biggest gripe with dwarves was no cavalry or monsters, chaos dwarfs not only cover those bases, but my god they absolutely blow it out of the water. Plus their overall mechanics are just better. I cannot WAIT to get my hands on these guys
@@lolasdm6959 Actually the Infernal Ironsworn are better tanking units than the Ironbreakers, but the goblin/orc/hobgoblin units are ofc weaker than any dwarf unit tankwise
It's VERY expensive though, you won't see more than one or two MAX in a multiplayer army. 3 would mean you're just basically bringing those and gobbos.
Almost. They're slow, but most gunpowder units are unless they're mounted. They're also really expensive, even for a high tier gunpowder unit. In campaign they've also got a cap on them.
I love how they used all the different helmets/hats of the Chaos Dwarf versions, both the classical GW Byzantian style ones as well as the Forge World ones. And this army allows for a good combination of heroes as well as going all out with just one type. I imagine an all Great Taurus army where the Lord also rides a Great Taurus!
I feel like CA is learning from the development of DLC and is going to give some of the old races some passives to boost up their heros, elite troops, and RoR. Or at least I hope so.
Roster looks incredible! So well rounded. They have everything. Magic, infantry, missiles, cav, monster cav, monster inf, artillery, skirmish cav, good heroes and lords, big monster, flyers. Everything!
Overall, I think Chaos Dwarves are going to be the most well-rounded faction in the game, though obviously not the most balanced. On the face of it, they're a heavy ranged, heavy armored infantry faction and you could absolutely play them that way with a lot of success. What sets them apart from the other factions, especially multi-role ones like the Empire or the high/dark elves, is that they've got just about every major unit type, so you can make nearly any type of build with them. They've got great heavy infantry and also chaff (though no dedicated anti-large, which might be redundant when you can focus fire with 3 blunderbusses anyway). They've got single entity monsters, flying monsters, monstrous infantry, and great war machines and artillery. They've even got dedicated heavy cavalry and skirmish cavalry, plus some potential sneaky units with the hobgoblins. Add in the gunpowder, plus goblin archers, and there really isn't anything major that any other factions have which they can't match.
It'd be cool to see maybe a Chaos Dwarf campaign mission with Chaos Dwarf line infantry and tanks going up against Empire tanks and riflemen after a wave of Hobgoblins charging Imperial lines, like a fantasy Battle of Kursk
You know, I feel bad-and a little weird- for saying this, but your Army Roster videos make for great ASMR before going to sleep, Zerkovich. Informative, relaxing and with the odd joke here and there, just chill overall.
Glad to see Zerk doing a detailed video on the Chaos Dwarfs. Loved his faction army breakdown videos, so it's great seeing him finally doing the Chaos Dwarfs army.
I wonder if grimgore got Da immortalz name from The Immortals. Honestly I didn't even remember noticing that in the lore between em enough. lol Hopefully I get to read more in a few things in this DLC
Yes he did. He essentially saw the chaos dwarf Immortals fighting during the black ork revolts and was actually impressed. So he wanted something just like that for his own troops.
I think is just a coincidence, chaos dwarfs immortals are just mentioned in a novel, and grimgor immortals are said to be named like that because they are huge badasses, also it was other orcs who named them like that, not Grimgor.
I think the Bull Centaurs are better used like minotaurs or rat ogres. Mix them with regular troops to smash through lines, then flank and encircle, using the chaff/infantry to tank for you.
awesome. I also like how CA didnt basically make chaos dwarfs 'dwarfs but better'. Yes, this army has more tactical flexibility, but the dwarf thunderers have shields (so different than the chaos dwarf ironbreakers and longer range than the blunderbuss), and the artillery is DIFFERENT. Also excited to ally the chaos dwarfs as norsca or chaos and get some of their units int he army. Agree with the comment on the tiered society.
They are exactly this: dwarfs, but better - a complete power-creep. Armor piercing blasting charges on their elite holding infantry which therefore can even counter every infantry that is supposed to counter them. Their blunderbuss dwarfs are literally hand cannons with lower unit count, same damage, but heavy armor, silver-shields and 7 more Ammo. Deathquake mortars are basically mass-produced a queen bees with chariot speed. I don't want to go on, cause it is just so absurd. That you do not see this, comes only from the fact that you don't care for balance, only power fantasy.
This seems really good but my only concern is that some of the other races are going to fall behind both in campaign and multiplayer, like the regular Dwarfs. CA should prioritize reworking/balancing all of the other races that are being left behind before releasing more content.
I think with the final test, the Queen Bess Vs Dreadquake, length of time rather than number of shots might be a better test as not all artillery has the same rate of fire. That's an important part of how effective it is, as more shots in the same time could be more powerful even if each individual shot is less powerful
The immortals are just the faction slayer buff but on a unit with much better over all stats. I like it. Super tanky normally then ignoring loses till after losing 25% full hp.
Hey Zerk, you normally list the strengths and weaknesses of the army at the start of the video. That was a nice feature. Please consider putting that in post edit or in part 2.
Those laborers have some pretty cool neckwear! Seems cumbersome, painful, and restraining but I’m sure they thanked their Dwarf Overlords for the accessory to their wardrobe!
Love the roster but I cannot help feel there is a major power creep with the Chaos Dwarfs. Maybe some of those abilities will get passed down to the other races?
The idea is that their individual units are extremely powerful, but the Chaos Dwarves as a faction aren’t able to field a lot of them since they’re so difficult to produce in campaign. Large portions of their armies will be made up of chaff, with a few elite units.
Shoutout to getting absolutely steamrolled by the Warriors of Chaos DLC lords if you're brave enough to pick a faction that starts near them. Or Grom if you even THINK about starting a Bretonnian campaign. I do hope CA forcus mostly on Immortal Empires, cause the normal campaign is unsalvageable at this point.
Holy Hashut, that dice mechanic for Gorduz can be HUGE if they implement it for some other skills! Finally, I can get screwed over by dice rolls in my favorite game!
You know, I know it's a joke in the community right now that Labourers was done as a means of not offending people by using "slaves"... but I'd like to point out something interesting from historical examples. Nazis had slave labour in the form of the people they put in the Concentration Camps. Jews, Slavs, Gypsies, etc. were all forced to labour away for the German war machine until the point that they were either too broken to work anymore or until they dropped dead. The Nazis didn't see it as "slavery". Slavery implied servants, living chattel, people meant to be at the bottom rung of a totem pole hierarchy. The Nazis didn't see their labour as human: they saw those they put in those camps as exploitable labour, a resource to be used to its fullest, a tool. This isn't to say that slavery isn't the same thing. What was done was still slavery... but it's important to know *why*. The reason was simple: the intention was dehumanization, to strip away any notion of humanity from what they saw as tools. The same can be said for the Chaos Dwarfs. Taking the Dark Elves and Skaven - the two most notable slavers in the Warhammer World - as direct comparison, we can see that there's a clear difference in intention. Skavenslaves are an in-society caste of other Skaven, similar to Hindi Untouchables, forever ostracized and seen as the lowest of the low. Dark Elves know exactly what they are doing, and they more than understand that these other races are sentient. But they don't care. In fact, Dark Elves revel in their suffering. They seem them as chattel to use for their pleasures. They're a contingent part of their societies though. Slave sales and drives are common in Naggaroth, and Skavenslaves are used as an expendable workforce of Skaven (thoug all Skaven see those around them as expendable, Skavenslaves are the lowest rungs of that expendability. Dawi Zharr do not view their slaves the same way as these others do: they don't see their labourers as actual people, let alone sapient, or they cognitively distort it for the purpose of expansionism and exploitation of resources. They don't see those they enslave as anything, really: a tool not unlike a drill to be used until it is unable to be, and then callously discarded. They see their slaves in the same way as the Nazis saw their camps' forced labour: a means to an end, seen with contempt, dehumanized and made as gears to fit into the grooves of their almighty industrial machine. Unlike Skavenslaves, who are seen as revolting and wanting beyond compare, or Dark Elf slaves, who are seen as amusing puppets on strings, Chaos Dwarfs have a cold, methodical, calculated approach to how they view their slaves. These are not people. These are not other races. They are an equal, though lesser tool, to a hammer, or a drill, or a train. They are nothing. They hold nothing but contempt for those that aren't Chaos Dwarfs.
shout out to whoever designed the costumes for the hobgoblins very detailed the way the fabric is stitched and over laps, very clean work nothing clips at all.
@Zerkovich if you wanna abuse the chaos dwarfs a bit you can simply run around with your gorduz+goblin doomstack, get rid of your melee chaos dwarf units. only keep like 2 blunders in your army. then increase the capacity for every type of unit you want by 1, to unlock the first upgrade for them and hammer them all in. since you dont own melee dwarfs or any other unit except for 2 blunders and either artillery or bull centaurs you basically get huge buffs to convois and garrisons for free. slamming 3 upgrades on everything later on and paying basically nothing is fun. they cant take over your settlements, the gobo doomstack cant get killed. if you play with the greater garrisons mod by Zorbaz you can even have fun battles with a garrison against a huge army, instead of just auto resolving, cause the garrison is just so garbage, that it would be like a leaf in the wind.
I still don't get why people are upset about the naming of laborers. It isn't to not offend anyone since slave units still exist in game. It's mostly to differentiate the labor vs slave mechanics. Some of y'all think everyones offended while you're the ones complaining.
Also the Darklands will now be a more lore accurate zone to travel through or caravan through now with the Chaos Dwarfs update, because we'll now have roaming hordes of Hobgoblins like in the lore attacking convoys.
For every one whos interested: You should settle for Karak Kadrin pretty soon. It's legendary building grants all your melee infantry (except the normal dwarf warriors) the "Last hit" ability. That is very awesome.
Bit surprising to see that the Dreadquake Mortar has 60 speed while all other artillery only has 20 speed. The model also looks more like a train car rather then a train engine.
Definitely a possibility, but people thought the same thing about Khorne when they saw the unit cards. There's always a cost that makes strong units bad choices, at least in multiplayer. In campaign, as long as they don't stream role I doubt they will be as OP as Ikkit is already
Something i noticed - despite the seeming logical fallacy, Astragoth is not classed as "large" with his mobile power chair of doom. Charge him into anti-large, he will be fine. Also, i imagine the poor CA intern who had to animate the dangling gobboz on Cinderbreath.
i used k'daai destroyer once since it was in my convoy but its funny how a thing of that size got stuck on a unit of infantry not bigger than its hands and couldnt get out resulting in its death
A really cool looking faction, but it seems too strong. All the core units are overstatted and too well rounded. As a faction they have no apparent weaknesses - strong infantry, strong range, good skirmish cavalry, strong monsters, strong flyers, strong artillery and magic. They even get a Dread Saurian-like unit. Sure, there are unit caps in the campaign, but it still feels like a spit in the face for the regular dorfs. Thunderbarge when?
You know I sort feel like it would make sense for Druchii Lords, Heroes, Black Guard, and Harganeth Executioners to get Contempt. Would just fit the druchii mentality so well.
@@rajatpatel8846 it wasn't mentioned in this video but has been seen on the other videos and trailers of them. The real question about balance is how (non-)restrictive the caps are, although I don't think SP should be that "balanced" in the sense that everyone's equal, I much prefer the style of everyone being bonkers in their own way. But in MP they should be in balance and that can be done with proper unit costs
I really wish they would make a good series based on Warhammer Fantasy battles universe. Now that would be really expensive for special effects and animation etc budget, so it propably should be 3d animated show. I don't know what story would be, but i just want to see as much about different species and their pov as possible, not too much regular human stuff.
By sigmar... I expected the dwarfs (most unbalanced faction) with monsters and magic to be powerful but this??? THIS??? the Cdwarfs are absolutely overpowered. Makes sense that they ask for 30 euros...
it would be nice if you hovered over the ranged damage to show the actual values instead of declaring the shown damage (which is actually damage over 10 seconds) as the definitive ranged damage. base reload speed, etc matter a lot
NOTES!
1) There will be an Army Guide Part 2! If you wonder why I haven't done others. Watch this: ua-cam.com/video/_lfHWcobJiI/v-deo.html
I'll be trying something out with this faction so we'll see how it goes.
2) Lore of Hashut Guide up in a few days
3) If you want to see the unit prices in custom, I'll do a post to UA-cam so keep an eye out on my community tab.
**fist bump**
dragonbackslayer should change side！joint the chaos dwaft！
Looking forward to it! Always exciting to keep up with Zerk
looking forward to it. I love watching these guides.
It's a pity they don't have a solid foot spear (anti-large) unit, aside from that centaur hero guy and his unit buddies with an anti-large bonus.
K'daai destroyer is literally MADE out of nothing but armor, and has 90 armor
Grom the Paunch a big fat naked goblin riding a chariot has 120 armor
Grom's paunch is his armor.
@@kaedenparten9126 Paunch alone is the BESTEST OF ARMOR YA GIT
To be fair if that thing had 150 armor like it realistically would, it would be WAY too overpowered.
@@mysterymastermind175 Think it actually had to have thinner armour than you'd expect to help it move around as well as having the slightly exposed mechanical components that are weak spots.
@@michaeltyler4083 plus a lot of its bulk is engines and pistons that allos it to move around.
The fireborn have a body of liquid metal, which is why they're dealt with more easily than a k'daai destroyer
One of my favorite things when new Total war content is released. Zerk always breaks it down very well
yeah i pretty much learned the entire game from zerkovich. all i figured out on my own was how to lose battles by doing random bullshit.
He's like damders except he's not terrible at the game
True. Watched every one since the beginning and it’s great.
@@rockstar450 lmao. Damn! That’s funny.
he misunderstands the duration skills like Lucky Git at 9:50
Interesting that hobbos' don't have expendable, so they won't care if the laborers/slaves rout, but since they don't have contempt, dwarfs won't care if they rout, so CA (seemingly) nailed it and made the three levels of chorf society work in the gameplay
And I like how all the artillery is single entity, good way to balance the OP-ness without actually making the unit bad
The other effect is that outpost units won't have contempt so the Chorfs won't care about them either
Oh, I can see that being used against them. Basically, making all their meat shields run for the hills while leaving the more valuable unites behind.
Yeah I reckon bringing multiple cheap artillery units will provide a cost-effective counter to Chorf artillery. Playing as Empire I think you'd typically want to bring a couple of great cannons plus a decent amount of cav, for example.
@@vatsal7640 Some goblins are slaves, while others (hobgoblins) are willing warriors.
@@vatsal7640 thier slaves straight up
Feel like the regular Dwarf ranged units could really benefit from the "Dig In!" ability. Since the whole roster incentivizes static gameplay I think that abilities like these could make it more rewarding and viable. Giving something similar to their melee units would also help.
A shieldwall working like this would be fun
This is in line with what ItalianSparticus has been saying, that now that we have the CDs, regular old dawi are looking pretty lackluster. These guys have artillery, mobile war machines, cav, monsters, multi-role lords, and sturdy dawi infantry and ranged bois. Meanwhile, no significant dwarf updates in ages, the bois need some roster updates.
@@GamerX13XDwarven Mains hospitalizing themselves for severe depression
@@GamerX13X what are you talking about Dwarfs had a fairly big rework when Ironbrow came out.
They still have amazing artillery, Runes, way more range options, free slayers. Dwarf mains act like they never get anything meanwhile way more factions have barely been touched in comparison.
@@joedatius empire players rise up
Chaos dwarfs seem so strong and thought out. The abilities from the heroes are really good and harmonize well with the roster. DLC powercreep is real but damn they seem so fun to play!
Aye the look damn powerful. Interesting to see what armies will counter them.
@@theasorlins6027 I'd say going wide and trying to outflank them. Or maybe go artillery because they are very slow and some units get slower over time
They seem stronger 1v1 than most other races comparable units, but they're also horrendously expensive with the dreadquake mortar costing something like ~3500 gold making it the most expensive unit in the game.
There's also unit caps for most of the dwarf roster, meaning you can't field large armies of high tier units as easily as other factions.
@@RaccooNooB I have to disagree about the expensive part they have lots of chaff infantry that can be buffed by hero's in MP, also great mid tier infantry for melee and missile units. Turin has been making viable builds with them having 1200ish unit counts.
The main issue with them I think in MP will be the poor flying roster (only single entities, no harpies etc.) also they have no magic defense race trait like the Dwarves, but still are sitting ducks against Pit of Shades and big AOE spells that delete infantry clusters. All over still strong faction, probably B tier and hard to counter pick much like the Tomb Kings. Cant wait!
@@worsethanjoerogan8061 Don't they have pretty much the best artillery in the game though?
Chaos dwarfs are about to become my favorite faction and its not even close. My biggest gripe with dwarves was no cavalry or monsters, chaos dwarfs not only cover those bases, but my god they absolutely blow it out of the water. Plus their overall mechanics are just better. I cannot WAIT to get my hands on these guys
Sadly these guys are not nearly as tanky as their western cousins.
@@lolasdm6959 normal dorfs gotta be good at something
@@lolasdm6959 Actually the Infernal Ironsworn are better tanking units than the Ironbreakers, but the goblin/orc/hobgoblin units are ofc weaker than any dwarf unit tankwise
that infernal guard fireglaive had everything to become best gunpowder unit in the game.
It's VERY expensive though, you won't see more than one or two MAX in a multiplayer army. 3 would mean you're just basically bringing those and gobbos.
Almost. They're slow, but most gunpowder units are unless they're mounted. They're also really expensive, even for a high tier gunpowder unit. In campaign they've also got a cap on them.
@@ktvindicare Ehh. You could probably bring like three actually, but they're slow. They are pretty damn good though.
I love how they used all the different helmets/hats of the Chaos Dwarf versions, both the classical GW Byzantian style ones as well as the Forge World ones.
And this army allows for a good combination of heroes as well as going all out with just one type. I imagine an all Great Taurus army where the Lord also rides a Great Taurus!
CA Designer: "So boss, what powers should be give the Chaos Dwarf Legendary Lords?"
Lead Designer: "Yes"
Thanks for doing these, they are really helpful for new players.
I love hw Astrogath swings back and forth on the hinges like an insane bell
I feel like anyone who really understands the synergies of this faction will absolutely destroy with them
Thanks for the compliment.
I feel like CA is learning from the development of DLC and is going to give some of the old races some passives to boost up their heros, elite troops, and RoR. Or at least I hope so.
I mean this is the dlc team, which actually learn and improve, generally.
Roster looks incredible! So well rounded. They have everything. Magic, infantry, missiles, cav, monster cav, monster inf, artillery, skirmish cav, good heroes and lords, big monster, flyers. Everything!
Overall, I think Chaos Dwarves are going to be the most well-rounded faction in the game, though obviously not the most balanced. On the face of it, they're a heavy ranged, heavy armored infantry faction and you could absolutely play them that way with a lot of success. What sets them apart from the other factions, especially multi-role ones like the Empire or the high/dark elves, is that they've got just about every major unit type, so you can make nearly any type of build with them. They've got great heavy infantry and also chaff (though no dedicated anti-large, which might be redundant when you can focus fire with 3 blunderbusses anyway). They've got single entity monsters, flying monsters, monstrous infantry, and great war machines and artillery. They've even got dedicated heavy cavalry and skirmish cavalry, plus some potential sneaky units with the hobgoblins. Add in the gunpowder, plus goblin archers, and there really isn't anything major that any other factions have which they can't match.
It'd be cool to see maybe a Chaos Dwarf campaign mission with Chaos Dwarf line infantry and tanks going up against Empire tanks and riflemen after a wave of Hobgoblins charging Imperial lines, like a fantasy Battle of Kursk
You know, I feel bad-and a little weird- for saying this, but your Army Roster videos make for great ASMR before going to sleep, Zerkovich.
Informative, relaxing and with the odd joke here and there, just chill overall.
LOL love how there are also hell canons in case the other arty isn't enough.
"Don't buy it wait for a sale, don't buy it wait for a sale"
Damn you zerk. I bought it.
Little correction on the Wolf Rider RoR: They don't have poison, but a different contact effect. Might be making enemy units flammable.
They don't seem to be an RoR, rather a separate unit.
Glad to see Zerk doing a detailed video on the Chaos Dwarfs. Loved his faction army breakdown videos, so it's great seeing him finally doing the Chaos Dwarfs army.
That Black Gem of Ghar is a sick item. I wish we had more unique stuff like that in game. 90% of the items we have are just stat boosts.
I wonder if grimgore got Da immortalz name from The Immortals. Honestly I didn't even remember noticing that in the lore between em enough. lol
Hopefully I get to read more in a few things in this DLC
Yes he did. He essentially saw the chaos dwarf Immortals fighting during the black ork revolts and was actually impressed.
So he wanted something just like that for his own troops.
I think is just a coincidence, chaos dwarfs immortals are just mentioned in a novel, and grimgor immortals are said to be named like that because they are huge badasses, also it was other orcs who named them like that, not Grimgor.
@@tau2213 Source?
@@PoorManatee6197 Looking for a direct source for you right now, but the lore focused youtubers I watch have definitely mentioned it.
@@tau2213 Yeah I think Sotek mentioned it but it was just his theory.
I think the Bull Centaurs are better used like minotaurs or rat ogres. Mix them with regular troops to smash through lines, then flank and encircle, using the chaff/infantry to tank for you.
What does chaff mean?
@@Michigan1B22 Disposable/cheap troops
@@horrocko thank you!
awesome.
I also like how CA didnt basically make chaos dwarfs 'dwarfs but better'. Yes, this army has more tactical flexibility, but the dwarf thunderers have shields (so different than the chaos dwarf ironbreakers and longer range than the blunderbuss), and the artillery is DIFFERENT. Also excited to ally the chaos dwarfs as norsca or chaos and get some of their units int he army.
Agree with the comment on the tiered society.
They are exactly this: dwarfs, but better - a complete power-creep. Armor piercing blasting charges on their elite holding infantry which therefore can even counter every infantry that is supposed to counter them. Their blunderbuss dwarfs are literally hand cannons with lower unit count, same damage, but heavy armor, silver-shields and 7 more Ammo. Deathquake mortars are basically mass-produced a queen bees with chariot speed. I don't want to go on, cause it is just so absurd. That you do not see this, comes only from the fact that you don't care for balance, only power fantasy.
This seems really good but my only concern is that some of the other races are going to fall behind both in campaign and multiplayer, like the regular Dwarfs. CA should prioritize reworking/balancing all of the other races that are being left behind before releasing more content.
The mods that come from all these new assets are about to be amazing.
Already my favorite race. Can’t wait to see their campaign mechanics!
Racism gameplay, not even 40k can match
@@josecoronadonieto6911 just wait till you find stellaris
Great vid. Really good system with the idle character and unit card on its left. Great ending shots.
Good job!
I think with the final test, the Queen Bess Vs Dreadquake, length of time rather than number of shots might be a better test as not all artillery has the same rate of fire. That's an important part of how effective it is, as more shots in the same time could be more powerful even if each individual shot is less powerful
Such a shame CA wasn't allowed to/didn't go for the steampunk Dreadnought suit for Astragoth that appeared in the Wulfrik novels.
The immortals are just the faction slayer buff but on a unit with much better over all stats. I like it. Super tanky normally then ignoring loses till after losing 25% full hp.
Those trains make me get all kinds of excited.
Finally we have the stats for the ChaDs!
Hey Zerk, you normally list the strengths and weaknesses of the army at the start of the video. That was a nice feature. Please consider putting that in post edit or in part 2.
Awesome. Especially like the "train". Ultimate destruction! ^^
Those laborers have some pretty cool neckwear! Seems cumbersome, painful, and restraining but I’m sure they thanked their Dwarf Overlords for the accessory to their wardrobe!
Love the roster but I cannot help feel there is a major power creep with the Chaos Dwarfs. Maybe some of those abilities will get passed down to the other races?
The idea is that their individual units are extremely powerful, but the Chaos Dwarves as a faction aren’t able to field a lot of them since they’re so difficult to produce in campaign. Large portions of their armies will be made up of chaff, with a few elite units.
Don't forget these units will be expensive and are unit capped. You won't be able to spam them like other factions
It's a brand new DLC. This always happens
Shoutout to getting absolutely steamrolled by the Warriors of Chaos DLC lords if you're brave enough to pick a faction that starts near them. Or Grom if you even THINK about starting a Bretonnian campaign. I do hope CA forcus mostly on Immortal Empires, cause the normal campaign is unsalvageable at this point.
I’m sure CA will figure out multiplayer balancing. As for campaign, who cares? Let’s have some fun campaigns steamrolling shit.
The hobgoblins and gorduz backstabber are so dope looking man. Excited to use them
Astragoth is a perfect example of power creep
Holy Hashut, that dice mechanic for Gorduz can be HUGE if they implement it for some other skills! Finally, I can get screwed over by dice rolls in my favorite game!
I can see nurgle being a piece of cake for these guys
Thank you for the great Video. Chaos draws seem to be Draws 2.0. They got everything that Darws also need.
Yo Zerk, can you redo guides to TWW1 Faction videos? we should see all the army units displayed in this ways as well as to see the changes after years
I hope my dwarfs get a rework alongside this dlc, they are so outdated
This roster have all I like. Monster, guns, magic and machine. Hell yeah!
mate i was waiting for your video your roster showcase is A+ in the whole community
You know, I know it's a joke in the community right now that Labourers was done as a means of not offending people by using "slaves"... but I'd like to point out something interesting from historical examples.
Nazis had slave labour in the form of the people they put in the Concentration Camps. Jews, Slavs, Gypsies, etc. were all forced to labour away for the German war machine until the point that they were either too broken to work anymore or until they dropped dead. The Nazis didn't see it as "slavery". Slavery implied servants, living chattel, people meant to be at the bottom rung of a totem pole hierarchy. The Nazis didn't see their labour as human: they saw those they put in those camps as exploitable labour, a resource to be used to its fullest, a tool. This isn't to say that slavery isn't the same thing. What was done was still slavery... but it's important to know *why*. The reason was simple: the intention was dehumanization, to strip away any notion of humanity from what they saw as tools.
The same can be said for the Chaos Dwarfs. Taking the Dark Elves and Skaven - the two most notable slavers in the Warhammer World - as direct comparison, we can see that there's a clear difference in intention. Skavenslaves are an in-society caste of other Skaven, similar to Hindi Untouchables, forever ostracized and seen as the lowest of the low. Dark Elves know exactly what they are doing, and they more than understand that these other races are sentient. But they don't care. In fact, Dark Elves revel in their suffering. They seem them as chattel to use for their pleasures. They're a contingent part of their societies though. Slave sales and drives are common in Naggaroth, and Skavenslaves are used as an expendable workforce of Skaven (thoug all Skaven see those around them as expendable, Skavenslaves are the lowest rungs of that expendability.
Dawi Zharr do not view their slaves the same way as these others do: they don't see their labourers as actual people, let alone sapient, or they cognitively distort it for the purpose of expansionism and exploitation of resources. They don't see those they enslave as anything, really: a tool not unlike a drill to be used until it is unable to be, and then callously discarded. They see their slaves in the same way as the Nazis saw their camps' forced labour: a means to an end, seen with contempt, dehumanized and made as gears to fit into the grooves of their almighty industrial machine.
Unlike Skavenslaves, who are seen as revolting and wanting beyond compare, or Dark Elf slaves, who are seen as amusing puppets on strings, Chaos Dwarfs have a cold, methodical, calculated approach to how they view their slaves. These are not people. These are not other races. They are an equal, though lesser tool, to a hammer, or a drill, or a train. They are nothing. They hold nothing but contempt for those that aren't Chaos Dwarfs.
I love the content ability. Pretty much sums up the Dawi Zharrs attitude right there
shout out to whoever designed the costumes for the hobgoblins very detailed the way the fabric is stitched and over laps, very clean work nothing clips at all.
Love that comment about the labourers
@Zerkovich if you wanna abuse the chaos dwarfs a bit you can simply run around with your gorduz+goblin doomstack, get rid of your melee chaos dwarf units. only keep like 2 blunders in your army. then increase the capacity for every type of unit you want by 1, to unlock the first upgrade for them and hammer them all in. since you dont own melee dwarfs or any other unit except for 2 blunders and either artillery or bull centaurs you basically get huge buffs to convois and garrisons for free.
slamming 3 upgrades on everything later on and paying basically nothing is fun. they cant take over your settlements, the gobo doomstack cant get killed. if you play with the greater garrisons mod by Zorbaz you can even have fun battles with a garrison against a huge army, instead of just auto resolving, cause the garrison is just so garbage, that it would be like a leaf in the wind.
Jesus they look OP
I still don't get why people are upset about the naming of laborers. It isn't to not offend anyone since slave units still exist in game. It's mostly to differentiate the labor vs slave mechanics. Some of y'all think everyones offended while you're the ones complaining.
The daemon smith axe/hammer mattock weapon looks awesome
Also the Darklands will now be a more lore accurate zone to travel through or caravan through now with the Chaos Dwarfs update, because we'll now have roaming hordes of Hobgoblins like in the lore attacking convoys.
Those war machines look fantastic. I’ve been waiting for Chaos dwarfs since the launch of TWW1.
"They're slaves!" hahahahhaha Oh Zerkovich you gave me a great laugh before training today
Really enjoy your army guides. Good work, my man.
you always do the best on these. Thank you.
For every one whos interested: You should settle for Karak Kadrin pretty soon. It's legendary building grants all your melee infantry (except the normal dwarf warriors) the "Last hit" ability. That is very awesome.
Bit surprising to see that the Dreadquake Mortar has 60 speed while all other artillery only has 20 speed. The model also looks more like a train car rather then a train engine.
This faction seems very heavily weighted towards anti infantry but would struggle against large units
Something else about the Bunderbusses. While they do have a much shorter range their attacks disrupt the enemy pretty significantly.
Thanks for another great video! These help me so much!! I really appreciate all the work you put into making these.
was not expecting a hero as cool as that infernal castellan
They went full retro for this one, love it
just noticed astragoth has soul grinder ball joints on his legs! nice touch
My goodness your computer is magnificent. I like the chaos dwarf esthetic. They remind me of the Ottoman empire
Man those war machines and artillery seem crazy!
I laughed so hard at the Choo Choo Charles reference, hell yea!
I'd love to see a video comparing each chaos dwarf unit to their regular dawi counterpart, if a unit has that counterpart. For science
Holy powercreep
It's awesome though. So instead of nerfing the Chorfs CA should just buff the older factions instead.
iceguard melts when they saw the infernal guard with fire glaives``````
I can see these boys getting whacked with the nerf back quite soon after release as they seem very strong!
Definitely a possibility, but people thought the same thing about Khorne when they saw the unit cards. There's always a cost that makes strong units bad choices, at least in multiplayer. In campaign, as long as they don't stream role I doubt they will be as OP as Ikkit is already
@@Campfire_Bandit People are already finding ways to make them utterly broken: ua-cam.com/video/sxbu2z1vOeE/v-deo.html
Was looking forward to your army guide!
this has everything a dawi ever dreamed of.
Something i noticed - despite the seeming logical fallacy, Astragoth is not classed as "large" with his mobile power chair of doom. Charge him into anti-large, he will be fine.
Also, i imagine the poor CA intern who had to animate the dangling gobboz on Cinderbreath.
i used k'daai destroyer once since it was in my convoy but its funny how a thing of that size got stuck on a unit of infantry not bigger than its hands and couldnt get out resulting in its death
Easily the most badass faction yet
A really cool looking faction, but it seems too strong. All the core units are overstatted and too well rounded. As a faction they have no apparent weaknesses - strong infantry, strong range, good skirmish cavalry, strong monsters, strong flyers, strong artillery and magic. They even get a Dread Saurian-like unit. Sure, there are unit caps in the campaign, but it still feels like a spit in the face for the regular dorfs. Thunderbarge when?
Just might get this game for Iron Warrior vibes I am getting from seeing their artillery.
Me: why do people like Chaos Dwarves so much.
*Sees Doomtrain (Iron Demon + Dreadquake Mortar) and the K'daai Destroyer.*
Oh, nice!
The armor on the snout of the Wolf Rider units keeps flexing with the models movement, and I'm finding it highly unnerving.
These guys are a pain in the ass to beat. I wish I could opt out of having to deal with factions that come with DLC I don't actually own.
You know I sort feel like it would make sense for Druchii Lords, Heroes, Black Guard, and Harganeth Executioners to get Contempt. Would just fit the druchii mentality so well.
i think its better to think of bull centaurs as monstrous infantry like dragon ogres or minotaurs than as heavy cavalry
Absolutely OP faction.
exactly what i'm wondering, like the normal drawfs have got no cav and slow speed as a weak spot but these chaos drawfs are just too well rounded...
@@rajatpatel8846 They have unit caps on most of their roster so that can be a balancing factor
@@houndofculann1793 ahh i didn't notice that, yeah that'll have to do
@@rajatpatel8846 it wasn't mentioned in this video but has been seen on the other videos and trailers of them.
The real question about balance is how (non-)restrictive the caps are, although I don't think SP should be that "balanced" in the sense that everyone's equal, I much prefer the style of everyone being bonkers in their own way. But in MP they should be in balance and that can be done with proper unit costs
Kinda feels like the normal dwarfs got done with this, the Chaos Dwarves can do everything they do but better
Anyone else notice a weird wobble on the bludderbuses. It seems to get worse when they raise the weapon up.
I did notice yes
Zhatan's shoulder pad clipping into his mouth is pretty cursed.
Great guide
Gonna have to lean hard on meatshield tactics with no heals (for non mech) in the faction.
My favorite part about any new units
I really wish they would make a good series based on Warhammer Fantasy battles universe. Now that would be really expensive for special effects and animation etc budget, so it propably should be 3d animated show.
I don't know what story would be, but i just want to see as much about different species and their pov as possible, not too much regular human stuff.
Wanna send Grimgor's Immortulz against The Immortals.
Black orc vengeance will be swift and terrible and a really, really fun campaign to play.
By sigmar...
I expected the dwarfs (most unbalanced faction) with monsters and magic to be powerful but this???
THIS???
the Cdwarfs are absolutely overpowered.
Makes sense that they ask for 30 euros...
I wish there was a generic version of gorduz. I really wanted to make a mostly hobgoblin army with heroes
it would be nice if you hovered over the ranged damage to show the actual values instead of declaring the shown damage (which is actually damage over 10 seconds) as the definitive ranged damage. base reload speed, etc matter a lot