MORE DRAMA - Kramnik Unhinged
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2023
- Over November 26 and 27 Vladimir Kramnik made several blogposts, a call for a petition and 2 videos. Hikaru tries to summarize it.
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#gmhikaru #chess #cheatinginchess - Ігри
You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain
@@VPERED_V_PROSHLOE Harvey Dent
@@VPERED_V_PROSHLOE kracknik
wins the internet
@@MrILikeBreadstickscan we trust him?
@jonathanechevers6265 He's the world's greatest detective! Also he doesn't have any time for riddles.
I’m more likely to believe Hikaru paid Kramnik to make this up for content than believe Hikaru cheated.
Unironically, chess world needed some more drama.
Why?
@@user-hx7yn6hk2n Because cheating in Bullet is much harder to do than other Chess time formats. Hikaru has thousands of filmed bullet games to show he's at the absolute top level without question and WITHOUT cheating. Kramnik makes no sense saying Hikaru is a cheater. It's like saying Magnus is. Laughable.
Haha I thought the same thing.
I said the same thing lol
Imagine being so good that a former world champion thinks you're cheating. Hikaru should be thanking Kramnik for bringing up all of his amazing performances.
Hikaru and Hans Niemann can both now cross this off their bucket lists.
Kramnik has accused many high level players of cheating. The fact of the matter is that he is unwilling to admit that he has gotten worse in his age, which is something that chess players have historically done. Their cognitive ability drops off. Magnus even said before hand when speaking on him, that Kramnik believes that he is just as good as current top level players in spite of clear evidence that he is not. If anything, it's to be expected that he thinks Hikaru is cheating. He can't do what Hikaru does, and to him that's clear evidence of cheating because Kramnik is the best thing since sliced bread in Kramniks own mind.
@@MistaOppritunity😂😂😂😂 why Caruana repeated everything what Kramnik said? Why he sucks online while much stronger OTB??😂😂😂😂
Kramnik skill dropped, but he is still miles ahead of bortnyk and jospem, who obviously cheating 😂😂😂.
And hikaru: never was even a candidate in classic and two times silver in blitz in last ten years, for comparison Magnus was five times first and one time second 😂😂😂 and stupid online fans consider him on par with Magnus, because in online he really plays at Magnus strength 😂😂😂
Everyone who playing online much stronger than OTB is cheater.
@@uduehdjztyfjrdjciv2160You sound like a angry alt account of kramnick lol
@@uduehdjztyfjrdjciv2160😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂
Im glad Hikaru takes a break from his heavy cheating schedule to make these videos.
We're glad that you'll never take a break from trolling though. Keep on glazing your boy Vladdy
@@FeIixDragon 'Tis but a joke
Underrated comment!!!
@@FeIixDragondefinitely a joke but I can understand you thinking “bot insulting Hikaru?”
@@FeIixDragon That joke went right over your head 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kramik is that friend that refuses to accept he's wrong
The person no one is friends with
You know nothing about chess, please be quiet
Kramnik is absolutely right
@@alexrhea9131
😂
Kramnik is absolutely in the right, this hikaru guy is a cheater 😡
Kramnik giving us more Hikaru content 😂
Kramnik never fails to put Hikaru in his videos 😂
such a nice guy 8-D
And both of them some additional $$$. I bet they have a call every evening to discuss the drama plot for the next day.
Milk it!!! Why waste a good controversy~ haha
also levi
Clever you are not only farming for content but also inducing a paranoiaresponse by Kramnik and then even more content. I love it. Hope you do well at the candidates.
He’s adopting Kramnik with these videos
Kramnik speaks for itself at this point
He made his bead and now he must lie in it
The thing that has puzzled me for years is whether Hikaru is a data scientist. I guess we may never know.
Interesting
At least we don't have to wonder for Kramnik
CHEATING IN CHESS: A Data Scientist Weighs In video of hikaru he tells you.
He admitted that he and Kramnik are 500 Elo statisticians.
guys the original comment was a joke. The joke is that he’s constantly saying he’s not a data scientist.
random nonsense will be random nonsense my dude, the funniest thing is he’s helping you get that bag by supplying you with tons of content 😂
This kramnik content are most viewed recent vides
It would actually be hilarious if Hikaru continuously counted with his "First things First", then "Second things Second", and so on.. LOL
It's interesting
Hikaru making thousand of bucks by just Kramnik calling him a cheater 😂😂
Inside he wants that this drama never ends😊
The drama is magnificent and very 'interesting'
@@arnie9482 Indeed
Can’t wait for the awkwardness when/if Hikaru faces Kramnik OTB.
Isn't Kramnik retired
@@t-rozbenouameur5304 living in a tent now lost everything
Hikaru has already stated he would NOT play Kramnik.
he would sumo him NOT chess
It would be a Chad move if Hikaru, not only sign this petition, but also promote it as well. It would be humiliating to Kramnik.
How?
@@noblerot1315 signing
Kramnik was instantly smacked down by math and now is stuck looking dumb
The Algebraic Statistical Gambit Lives
No not really
Kramnik: "won't admit I'm wrong about hikaru, so I'm gonna switch to other players to make myself look competent "
@@Somequo Got any actual evidence? Innocent until proven guilty applies just as much in sports as it applies in the legal system. More in fact as there is less corruption in the chess community.
Hikaru's "first things first" habit is hilarious because I've never noticed it before in all his videos but now I won't be able to unhear it😊
My history teacher had this habit. Died of old age few days ago, by the way. I was his student in the first half of 2010's
Hikaru, if you read this, don't forget to keep your head on what actually matters. Candidates, streaming, "literally don't care" attitude towards winning, etc. World champion or not this clown has lost all credibility and has simply gone insane.
Yea, even though the accusations are completely baseless - they can still be pretty unpleasant. And we only see, what’s on camera. Stay positive! ❤
If Kramik stopped to realize how much money and content he was giving Hikaru, and how much he is just destroying his own reputation, he would resign and give a public apology, alas if he had that level of foresight, he wouldn't have started this joke in the first place.
Anh people believe and supports his claims
@@patogordo1385There will always be an amount of people that believe anything. The vast majority of people don’t believe him though
Крамнику, в отличие от Хикару, нечего терять: он уже закончил профессиональную карьеру. А вот то что Хикару не жульничает- требует доказательств.
@@amirovartur He doesn't need to prove his innocence because nobody has provided any evidence of him cheating yet. Only empty accusations.
Hope he never stops, he's boosting chess more than the hans scandal
Another reason Hikaru is the GOAT of online chess... he knows when to farm and when to quit.
Isn´t it a statistical anomaly for any chess player becoming world champion. I mean, what are the odds?
lmao no it's not you moron, because at any given period of time there will always be one champ independently from how unlikely it is for ANY individual to become one.
Odds are one, unless you mean specific player.
Yeah, if one had so little understanding of statistics, as Kramnik has, any world champion would be automatically a likely cheater, lol. Good point.
@@bleekcer I guess, you didn't see the previous comment. I am afraid your understanding of statistics is far worse than Kramnik's.
Okay, but why does Hikaru have 5 anomalies per month and Magnus has none in his entire career)?
I remember about a year ago, in one stream you mentioned that you might start with multiple cameras for streaming and online competitions. In order to set a new standard. Now would be the perfect time to spearhead that.
A while back I caught some podcast with Kramnik as a guest. He was so completely statistically illiterate in his paranoid search for cheaters that I couldn't even stomach the entire thing.
intelligent people who are hyper specialized are dangerous sometimes because they dont understand their expertise only extends to one field, and are actually at an elementary level in others.
@@chockey4288"intelligent people?" , that's skill bro intelligence is broader, he is clearly dumb to not even consider the possibility that he might be wrong.
Do you have at least a PhD in statistics or mathematics?
@@axe-vw6ek you don't need a PhD to know someone else is illiterate.
@@axe-vw6ekAre you implying that a PhD is needed to understand statistics?
This is probably the beginning of Kramnik's Fischer arc
Big fan of your work on the board and content for the community! 🎉
Honestly, it's just a relief that persistent play at an extremely high ELO is no longer considered evidence of cheating.
Watching Hikaru repeatedly own Kramnik has become my chief source of entertainment
I’m a simple man… I see hikaru cheated, I click, I vehemently defend him as if he was my own father
Somebody should sponsor a big money match between the two. It would get an audience like any major chess final imo
Great idea, I'll throw in a tenner
Kramnik would have to get time-odds. Like 3 min. To 1.5 . No way Kramnik would play in such a setting. And without both know he would get destroyed.
I love how everything is content for you. You are a king, Sir!
Farms fms and ims for rating, farms a supergm for content. I respect the grind!
Kramnik : Hello Naka
Naka: Hello
Kramnik : lets make another cheating drama for content
Naka: ok, show is ON
"You giff me half eh?"
I'm not a data scientist, but Hikaru seems like a totally normal bro, with a normal life and a normal job, except he beats us all at chess.
Hikaru saying "first things first" on a regular basis is an example of how his mind follows patterns, the exceptional pattern following ability that helps make him a chess genius.
Not so sure about that Johnny boy xD
Time for some chessboxing between Hikaru and Kramnic
Hikaru will be milking this drama for years to come
Free content for us to enjoy thats a W for everyone except Kramnik
@@MIDO44444 I'm not enjoying it at all, it's even sad and disappointing...
@@henrybrown8289boring stuff indeed- who cares what kramnik says… just move on
It’s probably more that if he doesn’t address it his community won’t leave him alone in until he does
@@noparkingtuesday4283 he would be just fine - nkthjnv would have happened
So funny how Hikaru keeps pulling up the stats. He's not scared, he is just Proud of it 😂😂
I could listen to Hikaru explain chess all day even though I don’t understand any of it. Just so amazing to watch a genius at work.
Yeah that moment when he blunders and you don't see it😍
Kramnik: ?
Hikaru: !
Kramnik: ??
Hikaru: !!
Biggest meme would be Hikaru signing Kramnik petition live on stream, I'd start screaming
In this drama, Hikaru acts like an adult, while Kramnik like a kid. Education is important, Kramnik is not your level of education, Hikaru, it's useless to argue with stupids
Hikaru is farming kramnik for content
Kramnik is lashing out because of toilet-gate getting new exposure. Kramnik is a toilet-bowl cheater, so trying to deflect.
There really is no reason you should ever have to explain yourself to anyone.
Agree 👍 100%
I have watched videos from Daniel Naroditsky where he was able to draw against cheaters , and he did that streaming on his Speedrun videos. So drawing against a cheater who used a chess engine in that game is possible because at some point they can get very low on time that won't be able to follow a computer line and therefore blunders can appear
There is a big difference between bad players only following the computer and good players only boosting their performance. With this tactic you only beat the first kind. With engine help Dania would beat Hikaru and Hikaru would not be able to flag Daniel often in 3 0 .
Better than a soap opera. Every day a new episode.😂😂😂😂
Kramnik looked at Karjakin's fall from grace and said 'yeah i can do better'
😂
What happened with karjakin?
@@shreyaskrishna6038he was cancelled (and rightfully so) because he supported ruzzian invasion in Ukraine
Sad to see, but fun to watch. I am a fan of this drama for the pure entertainment value.
You are telling me. I saw Kramnik's video and it looked like it was recorded from a mental institution.
Can you link me the vid, i Wanna see that😭
Kramnik is the flat earther of the chess world
Said 1500 elo chess god
@@Hecklerr atleast the guy's not insane.
Kramnik found out his wife subbed hikaru and snapped.
I feel like hikaru deep down enjoy this drama and he doesnt want it to stop.
As much as I like Kramnik, this time, Hikaru is absolutly right and makes fare points each video on the topic!
Anyone even slightly familiar with mathematical statistics will tell you that you can't just pull out 55 wins between two losses and say that here it is - one hundred percent. There is an important rule of thumb: probabilities only occur when iterations tend to iterate to infinity. So just individual segments taken out of context is data fraud. The correct thing to do would be to look at not 55 games, but, say, 100, and at a random, rather than purposely selected segment, and see the result.
Hikaru is monetizing Kramnik.
Kramnik apparently asked Danny to search Hikaru’s house. It seems that he’s clean, but we haven’t seen the ceiling yet.
here the data of a numerical simulation model for the numbers Kramnik has published in his petition video: Nakamura played 3800 blitz games in 2023, his longest winning streak being 79 games. According to my simulation model, the probability of that event to occur within this single year is: 0.249% (+-0.053% 1-sigma confidence interval), for an ELO difference of 350, which indeed would be very unlikely. However, for an ELO difference of 600 points (the number which Nakamura gives for his long streaks), the probability to have such a streak to happen within one year is 26.23% +-0.452%, i.e. it is quite likely. For an ELO difference of 450 points, it is 5.73% +-0.23% which is not unlikely to happen. Thus, it really depends on the players Nakamura picks for his streaks (as he correctly says himself).
Basically, Kramnik's gut feeling which he is sharing with us is not statistically correct. I don't think he does it on purpose, he just, as a true chess expert, assumes his gut feeling about chess must be correct; but this aspect of chess, i.e. statistical analysis, is simply off his chess expertise.
[for information, the small confidence interval is based on a total of 3.8 billion simulated games per simulation run, all being independent events]
Let’s get rid of these claims once and for all. Let’s make cheating legal
If this were a chess game, Hikaru would be at the “come on, just resign. Resign. Resign” stage by now!
Kramnik is obviously an old man who cant wrap his head around the current chess modernization and level of players. And i think you explain the different variabels that has an effect on the outcome of online games perfectly in this video, so well done Hikaru. Keep up the great work you are doing🔥
I actually don't care if Kramnik was one of the world's best chess players, this kind of behavior is just sad and the fact that he doubles and triples down instead of admitting he's wrong means he isn't deserving of respect.
He is the Champ of the world. You probably mean that you deserve more respect than world champion?
Admit he is wrong based on what? Because hiraku said no? because math doesn't add up? you are going to have to give more details
And what about magnus accusations of hans on over the board tmt without proof, do you think same about magnus
@@dmitriiturchenkov3075former*
@@dmitriiturchenkov3075 So was Fischer, what's your point? You can be brilliant at a thing and also be batshit crazy; the two are not mutually exclusive my friend.
Kramnik is starting to make Bobby Fischer look sane.
These guys have nothing else except chess. When they fall from grace their life becomes meaningless. Carlsen is trying to avoid this by doing things he is passionate about.
Someone start a petition to investigate whether Kramnik goes to the toilet too frequently.
I wish Hikaru would make that buzzer sound in my head every time I make a mistake throughout my day
Please sue him. He will have to take back everything he has said or pay you a lot of money. Only good outcomes.
If Hikaru were to resort to cheating in a chess game, the repercussions could metaphorically create a gravitational pull of consequences, akin to the powerful force of a black hole.
And of course no information is lost when the black hole consumes the game as it will be released eventually as Hawking radiation. Unfortunately, it seems Kramnik has strayed too close to the black hole while searching for cheaters at the event horizon and has become irradiated, resulting in acute cognitive decline.
😂😂😂
I just posted a comment to Levitov Chess channel in Eng to the latest Mr Kramnik “math analysis”. As a dual-language speaker I could see how Kr and Levitov misinterpret some of Hikaru’s statements and even accuse him of “insulting” Mr Kr-k due to language barrier
"First things first.." 😭😭😂😂😂
I wonder what Vishy is thinking right now if he is aware of what Kramnik is doing. They are from the same era kind of, and both turned out of quite opposite reputation over the years
One kept it classy. It's that simple.
@@lightyagami1752 only hope all of India's new gen of players can carry on the tradition. It would be a shame if we had a kramnik among our own.
I admire how respectful you remain towards Kramnik... being called a cheater when you're just good at a game and giving it your all is one of the worst experiences ever (i know first hand)... props for keeping your cool and explaining your points in a calm and clear way
@@Somequo haha you are playing that card... sure, Kramnik hasn't flat out said it, but he may as well have... also he's asking for an investigation; you don't randomly investigate unless you already suspect the person... so he has at least said he suspects it, and has said that publicly, knowing full well how much that could defame someone given his former chess champion status...
@@Somequo Yes, just weaselly said that there should be an investigation, without merit, citing ill-understood stats. Weaselly Kramnik. "I didn't saaaaaaay he's a cheater. It's just .... looks =odd=, yes? But I'm not saying......" weasel weasel.
Hikaru even have video where stockfish cant calculate his moves and then realized it later after hikaru makes it think for a while 😂
*interrupts himself* "stop saying first things first? Ok, apologies"
How we all wish it went when we drop crits in chat
I've said it elsewhere, but when I hear about Kramnik being so aggressively accusatory like this, I can't help but remember the cheating scandal where Topalov accused Kramnik of cheating during the world championships. It was extra funny because both players at one point missed mate in 2 in a classical game, but Topalov's team wouldn't let it go and it felt so slimy from them. Now Kramnik has decided to change roles in silly cheating accusations.
If Hikaru is cheating then he is as good at hiding it than he supposedly is at chess and therefore still a genius
Hikaru, you can keep saying "first things first", as long as you follow up with "i'm the realest".
Kramnik was suspicious of Hikaru's win-streak, why didn't he say anything about my 50+ losing streak?
cmon how is this drama not over yet lol, it's either Kramnik not realizing how silly his claims are or I'm starting to wonder if it's a publicity stunt arranged by Kramnik and Hikaru atp,
either way, go Hikaru , get the bag
If you listen to Kramnik's latest interview on Levitov Chess, he is doing just the opposite - he is becoming more and more convinced that he is right and one of the reasons is he believes that some of the people leaving their comments on his posts are trolls sent (and maybe paid as well) by Hikaru. I mean how delusional you must be. :)
Paid, @@artursverza
One time Hikaru played against me during Speedrun, I was 750 rating player and he started with 500 rating. He beat me in 7-8 moves. How could 500 rating player beat 750 rating player. Hence proved he cheated against me.
That means you lost lol
@@swaggerydusterwoosh
Kramnik is just jealous he only knows how to cheat in classical, can't take toilet breaks in blitz 😆
Kramnik's doing the good ol' Hornet's nest stirring for that sweet STING
In an interview to Levitus chess (today) he literally asked a question whether everybody thinks Hikaru gonna beat him (Kramnik) with score 44,5 out of 45 games OFFLINE, saying that his rating is also 2980 - close to the average rating of those guys in a streak. So he literally confuses online with offline and himself with those guys with 2950.
He must think he is a FM then lol
Next time Kramnik will say Hikaru is an online cheater, because his rating is much higher online, just wait for it, lol.
@@bleekcer Someone should bait Kramnik into saying this, for more content.
lmao
Considering kramnik is retired and was never as good as present day top chess players, it would not surprise me if Hikaru can beat him close to such a score lol, especially in Blitz format.
Dont worry guys i will pay for Kramnik's treatment
You need to sell a t-shirt that just says, "First things first." lol
I think its very funny that this is happening after all the joy you took in Hans' issues with Magnus
Odds of Hikaru winning, showing it's not improbable:
For the five incidents/events that Kramnik mentions about Nakamura, here are the probabilities for success by Hikaru are:
386 points (91.2%) for 45.5/46 - 7.85% (and for a perfect score it's 1.44%)
424 points (93.1%) for 34.5/35 - P(X ≥ 34): 0.29431683 (29.4%) and for a perfect score (35/35) it's 8.19%
599 points (98.2%) for 55/55 -- P(X ≥ 55): 0.36824073 (36.82% probable for getting a perfect score)
387 points (91.2%) for 46/48 -- P(X ≥ 46): 0.19386136 (19.386%)
544 points (97.2%) for 47.5/48 -- P(X > 47): 0.25584723 (25.58%) and for a perfect score of 48/48 it's 0.60961130 (60.96%)
An error on the last line?
The five incidents appear in this video at @11:30 The above statistics you can verify yourself using Hikaru's 3336 Elo for blitz online (November 13, 2023) and an online calculator for binomial distribution probabilities (such as the danielsoper site) as well as expected win rates (for example 386 Elo point difference means 91.2% win rate)
@@artursverza Yes, good catch, I corrected it in a followup post.
Sad to see a great mind lose itself to dementia
and getting flagged a million times lol
Kramnik is an old man who just discovered trolling. Stop feeding him!
When it starts with 'random nonsense' you know it's going to be good...😂
The trouble is that we will never know who/how many people actually cheat
I find it interesting that Kramnik is so interested in catching cheaters 🤔
Needs to go back to the bathroom to check for them again
He can't understand why he gets flagged a million times and his blitz rating is under 3000.
Aha now I see
I JUST finished the data scientist video. Thank god this is out now xD
Well… there IS the rumored chess board on the ceiling… until we get a definitive picture of that no one can be sure 😁
Kramnik has pipi in pampers energy.
The good news about all this nonsense is that it's great CONTENT. Hikaru is v getting 3x views per video more than his usual videos. So @Kramnik keep up your BS. Hikaru keeps making these "Cheating" videos and keeps making money 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
'Ehhhhhhh' lol I enjoyed the 'wrong move buzzer'
"First things first" bro we are 18 mins into the video.
I don't know, I have a feeling that they are trying to destabilize Naka long before the Candidates Tournament. In my opinion, this is very dangerous for his performance! Naka, I hope you keep a cool head and don't let this affect your game.
Kramnik is doing A LOT of damage to chess with this insanity. This will lead to people not taking cheating accusations seriously. “The boy who cried wolf” indeed.
Cheater.
Just like Magnus
Very good point.
@@t-rozbenouameur5304 Tbf the magus situation had more credibility. Hans has cheated in the past and was sus as hell in the interview.
Happy you're getting the free content :)
Hikaru versus Kramnik in 1 0 bullet - the "Dose of Reality" match we want, and Kramnik needs.