Into the Breach: 30k Perfect Victory Hard (Steel Judoka)
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- Опубліковано 18 лип 2020
- Into the Breach Hard Mode Victory with Perfect 30k Score using Steel Judoka!
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- 30k score (no grid damage)
- All objectives complete
- No pilot or mech deaths
- No grid resists
- Steel Judoka squad
- 2hr 23min run time
Steel Judoka are by far my least favorite squad. And yet, their mechanics are actually quite fun when they work in your favor. I will admit I found myself enjoying this run, and aside from a hair-pulling 20-minute turn in Island 4, I felt pretty powerful throughout. Steel Judoka are all about movement - both yours and the Vek. Their entire getup is to move Vek into position to damage each other and block emerging Vek. That makes them surprisingly strong on Hard, because blocking Vek is always a priority. That said, you'll see I quickly sell the unique boost they get - Vek hormones - because relying on Vek to outright kill each other is frequently not as important as blocking. They are a difficult squad to master, because failing to master their techniques will see you quickly overrun.
Steel Judoka have some serious drawbacks. They have a hard time dealing with Vek that can't be moved - whether it's a burrower or a tile that's blocked or something else. Their damage output is sub-par, and even their damage upgrades, which are expensive, don't do much to fix this. The entire squad really relies on synergizing well on every turn, and things can quickly turn against you if you don't play with technical proficiency. My favorite of the squad is Gravity Mech, because a ranged pull that can bypass obstacles is really useful, and dumping Vek Hormones lets you put a better science weapon in its place. Siege Mech is probably the worst of all artillery units, combining elements of the Artillery Mech and the Meteor Mech, but being more unwieldy and doing less damage overall. Judo Mech can go either way, and as you see, in this run, once equipped with Boosters and Harold, was a champ.
List of all my perfect runs:
Rift Walkers - • Into the Breach: 30k P...
Rusting Hulks - • Into the Breach: 30k P...
Hazardous Mechs - • Into the Breach: 30k P...
Frozen Titans - • Into the Breach: 30k P...
Flame Behemoths - • Into the Breach: 30k P...
Zenith Guard: • Into the Breach: 30k P...
Secret Squad: • Into the Breach: 30k P...
Blitzkrieg: • Into the Breach: 30k P...
Steel Judoka: • Into the Breach: 30k P... - Ігри
I just got a perfect run with Steel Judoka by putting Kazaaak on the science mech and unpowering Vek Pheromones. Immedietly after the first island I bought new weapons for my prime and arty (acid spear + aegon), and at that point I wasn’t really playing Steel Judoka anymore.
Yeah. That can happen with any squad, but squads with odd or difficult stock configurations can kind of push you down that route. There's a second slot on every Mech for a reason, but some squads seem to sort of beg "fix me", unless you want a self imposed challenge.
how did you unlock kazaak, i tried for ages
@@ArmageddonChess Keep an eye for shiny buttons in half destroyed mountains
The madlad did it
More are coming!
Brilliantly executed teleport at 1:42:45 into sandwich manoeuvre at 1:44:09 to neutralize 4 enemies, all targeting buildings, with 3 mechs. Then another coolly executed set of kills starting at 1:52:01. Smart stuff
Edit: Also some great plays starting at 2:14:05; cut off all 4 spawns
Thanks for noticing. 1:42:45 took me a while to figure out, and at first I was for sure thinking I'd lost and would have to restart.
very new to this game still, recently bought steel judoka and bombermechs as my first new mechs cause they sounded cool based on their descriptions. Tried playing steel judoka first and really felt like I was using them wrong and not utilizing them correctly, this video and your description really shows how to play these guys. Probably too hard for me but I might try later, great video!
I just got this game and lost several time lines. At first I thought it was al RNG but now I see you need to make the plays to win 👁🐚👁
Once you get the hang of it you will notice there is actually very little RNG, but since you often have to consider several turns in advance it can be really tricky. Good luck.
The exact day I had this realisation I whacked out a half dozen wins in a row. Love this game.
@@soulmata Thats by far the biggeset difficulty I had when playing: thinking moves ahead.
I was doing fine on the individual turns after the first 2 hours or so. But only after I actually started blocking enemies and such did I get my first win.
I must say this game is one of snowballing. If you play poorly on 1 turn you will probably have to many Vek to deal with on the next turn. Which results in you taking more damage which means you need to spend some reputation to fix it which means less reputation for reactor cores and other upgrades which means weaker mechs which means a more difficult second island which ultimately results in a loss.
But if you do well: you get more reputation resulting in more flexible and powerfull mechs. Your grid will also get more resist chance, allowing more mistakes.
Its honestly really clever design for a rogue like. Because it puts some real tension on the later islands. But if you f#ck up early on you don't have to waste a ton of time before you figure that out.
List of all my perfect runs:
Advanced Edition:
Arachnophiles - ua-cam.com/video/a7uJ9ukv39E/v-deo.html
Classic Edition:
Rift Walkers - ua-cam.com/video/V6VjStYWtgo/v-deo.html
Rusting Hulks - ua-cam.com/video/IQhGa5Vtf6w/v-deo.html
Hazardous Mechs - ua-cam.com/video/Z54XFAYknb8/v-deo.html
Frozen Titans - ua-cam.com/video/WNEzDVr6c1I/v-deo.html
Flame Behemoths - ua-cam.com/video/2TCa94JA3v8/v-deo.html
Zenith Guard: ua-cam.com/video/z_0mAw9MaOI/v-deo.html
Secret Squad: ua-cam.com/video/AoqGj5UgA1c/v-deo.html
Blitzkrieg: ua-cam.com/video/oUPpkzmgsII/v-deo.html
Steel Judoka: ua-cam.com/video/spt-wk90QYA/v-deo.html
Glad I found your series, was having difficulty getting the hazard mechs and these guys specifically to work for me. That being said, I feel like when I'm lazy and playing on easy, there's fewer enemies for me to even use the ability that makes them strong.
Steel Judoka and Hazardous Mechs are, IMO, the squads with the highest technical proficiency to make work. Their mechanics aren't as straightforward as any other squads, and they rely more heavily on Vek damaging each other. Choice of pilot has a big choice with Hazardous Mechs too - taking Abe is by far the strongest choice for the Leap Mech.
Ah yes my favorite team! The tipsy commentary run on this one really put it into perspective lol.
I learned to like SJ a bit more after this run, but I still find them the most technically challenging to play.
@@soulmata I started counting the amount of science mech multi-hits and vek self-damages you did but then you started doing so many it became futile. :-)
@@soulmata after watching your hard and tipsy run and narDs I decided to give it a shot myself with the steel judoko and managed to get one grid away from a perfect game. Glad you gave this a shot! And pull it off.
@@scaltra6709 That's always infuriating. The most recent SJ run before this was ended on Island 4, 2 maps in, to what I thought was unsolvable.
Bro, sick playthroughs, I can't believe you did this for every squad! =O lol You're truly a master of this game lmao
SJ was my least favorite squad to do it with. Never again!
@@soulmata lmao xDDDDD
I remember watching this yesterday when it was a deleted video.
Still gunna watch it again though!
I had to delete it because it had been 'processing' for 4 days. Reuploaded the same video and it was done in a few hours.
Well played mate!
Thanks!
you are a true monster. Do it in hard mode is almost impossible with this squad
You should check our narD's videos too. He is even better than me by far.
And yet people in Reddit said that Siege mech is the carry (because it's technically an AoE that damages and pushes at the same time) and Gravity mech is the load. I guess it all comes down on playstyle.
It's a useful enough unit, I suppose, but like I said in r/itb, the real issue is that it combines elements from multiple other arty units without actually making them better. I feel it's the weakest of all the arty units because of its low damage, expensive damage upgrade, and larger AoE makes it more unwieldy. The grid immunity is fine, but compare that to the Rift Walkers which is also getting grid immunity and +1 damage to a specific tile, also with an ortho push.
@@soulmata The expensiveness cannot be denied, and it's terrible out-of-the-box. But regarding the last sentence, a particularly zealous supporter of Judoka ( www.reddit.com/r/IntoTheBreach/comments/84f4ga/oc_judoka_mastery/dvqtue5/ ) argues that not having to choose between dealing damage and pushing is a good thing. Maybe he is thinking the scenario when an alpha hornet / scorpion is attacking your building, and if you're using Rift Walker's, you have to push it for 0 damage or involve another mech since its 3 damage isn't enough to kill it. With Siege mech you can push and deal 2 damage at the same time. But looking at your aggressive spawnblocking tactics, I can see why you sometimes prefer to leave certain Vek alive.
I don't know why but I thought you named your judo mech Baymax and I was about to be so happy
Maybe next time.
this team makes my brain hurt
They are difficult to master. Hint: I did not master them.
I love you
Who wouldn't?
Oof, that was tough. 1:30:36-1:44:40 was an interesting setup. You made it perfectly. I paused the video to make up with my own turns, and that one I'd make like this:
Archimedes goes to G-3 and switches places with the flying vek, then takes up the E-3 spawn spot.
Harold goes to B-5 to kill the crab
Artillery shoots C-4 or D-5 to get rid of the scorpion.
No damage to the grid, although two more veks would've survived.
SJ is a tough squad IMO.
Really fun game!
A masterclass in game design for sure
In your opinion how where do you think all the squads rank from easiest to hardest, and which squad is your favorite
I'd say... Rusting Hulks/Blitzkrieg/Flame Behemoths are evenly matched for toughness/easiest to win with, Frozen Titans/Rift Walkers/Zenith Guard in the middle, and Steel Judoka/Hazardous Mechs/Secret Squad being the hardest. That can vary wildly by which pilots you bring and of course the RNG on shops, though. As far as favorite... Flame Behemoths and Hazardous Mechs. There's just something so hilarious about the leap mech.
soulmata tier list video?
Hi, are these perfect runs possible consistently? I have tried to do a perfect first island (Archive) on hard with rift-walkers, and lets just say, my success rate is probably below 10%. Not to speak of the follow up islands, Time and time I come up with turns that might have been solvable if I had done something different the turn before. Sometimes even my deploy that worked perfectly on first turn, means I fail the second.
Or I can't complete the bonus objectives, have to destroy a time capsule, let a mech die.
What is the going success rate I should expect, I'm trying to git gud but I think I have plateaued,
Definitely not. The game has very little RNG, but the RNG does affect what Vek spawn - it's possible to have Vek spawn, especially early on, that are impossible to deal with. An early Hornet that buzzes off to to a far corner or tucks itself between a mountain and a building that you can't move, for instance, are common ways you can lose a 30k. That said, I do believe every game is winnable, and that achieving a near-100% win rate is possible, if you are patient enough.
I think a large part of the game is not being happy with mediocre turns. You need to push yourself to fully optimise every turn, to kill and block as many vek as possible and position your mechs optimally. There is usually a better solution than your first instinct, which kills or traps more vek and uses the environment to its full potential.
33:09 I think G2 repair push, teleport swap into lightning and then fire and forget to block may have been a bit better.
I actually thought the same thing too at the time. I had considered using Reset to find a way to push the Alpha to block or to kill the Alpha on turn 1, but I decided I was already in a strong enough position to save it.
If the throw range of prime mech was upgradable, this squad would instantly become 10 times more fun to play with
SJ seems to be a love or hate squad in the community at large. I for one dislike them, mostly because I find they really cram you into a very specific style of play.
@@soulmata The thing is, the game is so insistent on this squad being able to "make the vek attack each other" when in reality, literally 99% of the time they are incapable of doing so!!! The forzen prime, the teleport mech, even the god damn rift walkers have better utility for this purpose than SJ; So even the play style that it tries to cram us into, is not really possible with the current toolkit....🤦♂
And it's a real shame too... If something like the control mech or the swap mech was a part of this squad instead of the dogshit pull mech, AND the prime could have 1 more throw range, there is a lot of fun to be had when you try to get vek to kill each other the whole time.
Steel Judoka would be a million times better if the Gravity Mech had the the "Force Amp" passive pre-installed with a Reactor Core instead of the "Vek Hormones" one. That or making Vek Hormones deal a plus +2 by default.
Also, this squad has a lot of trouble with Burrowers; it'd be cool if the Judo Mech had a secondary attack that made enemies turn around, like the Spartan Shield for the Aegis Mech does, for times when you absolutely can't do anything to an enemy. And speaking of the Judo Mech... is it just me or does 1 point of damage seem weak when you consider you are supposedly lifting a leviathan bug over your apartment-height shoulders before suplexing onto it's back? That manouver sounds like it should, AT THE VERY LEAST, deal 2 damage.
I just got my ass on fire playing this squad for the first time. The main reason is that on the snow island there's a vek that is immune to moving but hitting hard for three squares and in this squad there's only 1 mech that can do anything to him. And secind reason is I don't understand why the big throwing guy can't throw one vek into another, that would be so awesome but instead he's often remain useless.
my toxi trait is thinking this looks simple enough and that i could totally do this (no the fuck i cant)
47:25 Couldnt you have shot F6, breaking the ice and the beetle drowns?
I think you meant E4. I don't quite get the suggestion, the way he played it was good enough, he killed the stinger and the beetle is down to 1 HP. Quite ballsy to criticize a perfect run on hard difficulty :D
There's always a woulda coulda shoulda with ITB because every move has so many branching possibilities. As to what is more optimal, well, within the confines of the game's scoring system there are many optimal plays.
I’m most impressed with this one, because steel judoka are hot garbage imo.
They are definitely my least favorite squad.
Appreciate all the hate for SJ because I've been playing them for a couple of days & couldn't get a perfect run on Normal, let alone hard. Feeling better about blaming my tools now :D
Wow, how many runs did it take? This squad is impossible lol
Probably 10 attempts or more, though most would be scrapped on the first island, so not a whole lot of time lost.
god how many teams are there?
I think this is the last one of the original squad
There are 9 in the unmodded game, excluding Custom/Random (which are just custom/random subsets of the 9). There's a decent amount of modded squads too.
Why play the Steel Judoka if you're going to sell the vek hormones? Ain't that their whole schtik?
I explained on reddit in more detail, but in short, it's because I don't rely on Vek damaging each other nearly as much as SJ expect, so it's not that useful.
Yeah the hormones pretty much never produces a significantly different outcome.
You only get two weapon slots. If one of those is maybe producing only 1 extra damage a battle and thats it, hoo boy, not good.
They should have had two weapon slots and one accessory slot so people would have an incentive to use the more obscure stuff.
@@bluedistortions It's further complicated that, subjectively, the best use for your 2nd slot is for an item that lets you disable Vek in a way your 1st slot doesn't. So if it's a short range prime attach in slot 1, you want a long-range in slot 2, or if your main attack is a push, for slot 2 you want a pull, or something along those lines.
@@soulmata Yes! Excellent point. So it makes a "damage" utility even worse in that regard.
And yet again, having a "utility" slot would solve that issue! I really feel like the designer didn't put quite as much thought or play testing into this game as he did FTL. The weapons were just so badly balanced , there's only a handful that are really viable purchase/use options, and all he had to do to sort most of it is to have a utility/accessory slot. Its such an obvious solution I dont see how an experienced game designer would miss it.
That, and power requirements are all over the map. One use weapons should have 0-1 power requirements (fully upgraded) and either their own "one shot sidearm slot" or be classified as utilities and fit in that slot.
This would make almost everything viable as thered be at least no harm in bringing it to the battle with you. As it is, 85% of weapons are just resale fodder, which is annoying, viable playstyles are very limited, and runs are highly reliant on finding the few good weapons.