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  • @imusingwindowsbtw1469
    @imusingwindowsbtw1469 2 роки тому +227

    Today I learned:
    We should all leave a single one line comment in the Linux Kernel so that there is always living people who can refuse a hostile take-over of Linux in the distant future.

    • @keco185
      @keco185 2 роки тому +12

      Someone could choose to simply remove the comment in the "takeover" and you would no longer have a say.

    • @_garicas
      @_garicas Рік тому +24

      @@keco185 It would still be in the git history that someone deleted that line, so his contribution still counts

    • @rpe
      @rpe Рік тому +9

      your username lol

    • @williamduncan7401
      @williamduncan7401 Рік тому +19

      No, please don't do this. No need to spam commits that won't get merged. If you want to contribute, that's great. Putting your name in a comment is dumb. If you want to make a mark, actually commit something useful and you can be a proud contributor, forever credited for your code.
      I'm only saying this as I can seriously imagine people who've never touched code in their lives trying to do this.

    • @maddsua
      @maddsua Рік тому

      @@rpe im using msys2 btw

  • @mrcrackerist
    @mrcrackerist 4 роки тому +161

    I just glad i listened to the end

  • @speedyfox9080
    @speedyfox9080 2 роки тому +125

    I use Arch Gnu+Linux+Zsh+Xorg+DWM+Soystemd btw

    • @coompiler9029
      @coompiler9029 2 роки тому +25

      Oh you use Arch? Guess what? You use soystemd btw.

    • @speedyfox9080
      @speedyfox9080 2 роки тому +18

      @@coompiler9029 I distro hopped to slackware- check mate
      I distro hopped to Guix now. Fuck, now I am obligated to say I Use GNU!

    • @ME0WMERE
      @ME0WMERE Рік тому

      Forgot grub smh

    • @atzuyro
      @atzuyro 6 місяців тому

      @@ME0WMERE He's using systemd

    • @ME0WMERE
      @ME0WMERE 6 місяців тому

      @@atzuyro systemd is not a bootloader

  • @JTKroll12
    @JTKroll12 3 роки тому +139

    pro-pie-etary

    • @agoogleuser2507
      @agoogleuser2507 9 місяців тому +2

      pro-pry-itary

    • @thydevdom
      @thydevdom 8 місяців тому +1

      Read this comment at the beginning of the video and was so hoping he said it just like this. Was not disappointed. Still laughing

  • @TheByzantineEmperor
    @TheByzantineEmperor 3 роки тому +230

    Linus Torvalds:
    "The whole "Open Source" renaming was done largely _exactly_ because people
    wanted to distance themselves from the FSF. The fact that the FSF and it's
    followers refused to accept the name "Open Source", and continued to call
    Linux "Free Software" is not _our_ fault.
    Similarly, the fact that rms and the FSF has tried to paint Linux as a GNU
    project (going as far as trying to rename it "GNU/Linux" at every
    opportunity they get) is their confusion, not ours.
    I personally have always been very clear about this: Linux is "Open
    Source". It was never a FSF project, and it was always about giving source
    code back and keeping it open, not about anything else."
    Tell the whole story 👍

    • @iskamag
      @iskamag 2 роки тому +25

      Linus: make your kernel so bloated it's considered an entire operating system

    • @JaapVersteegh
      @JaapVersteegh 2 роки тому +33

      Yes, but irrelevant. Linus uses "Linux" for the kernel, since that's all he cares about. Makes sense, but most people say "Linux" to a complete system with Linux as a kernel. It makes sense that such a system be called GNU/Linux considering the amount of GNU software in such a system. Abbreviation to just "Linux" shouldn't be such an issue though. It's just a name..

    • @skia5635
      @skia5635 2 роки тому

      The term "Open Source" was coined in 1998 to bury the ethical aspects of Free Software and only present practical advantages.

    • @skia5635
      @skia5635 2 роки тому +9

      The difference between Free Software and "Open Source", and why Free Software is better:
      ua-cam.com/video/FfrDTPIP-yY/v-deo.html

    • @trollerjakthetrollinggod-e7761
      @trollerjakthetrollinggod-e7761 2 роки тому +6

      @@iskamag it's not bloated it's monolithic.

  • @ruroruro
    @ruroruro 3 роки тому +95

    I'd just like to interject for a moment.
    What you’re referring to as a Shitpost, is in fact, GNU/Shitpost, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Shitpost. A Shitpost is not a good joke unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU copypasta made funny by the GNU corelib-tards, FSF marketing fails and viral rofl-inducing collection of in-jokes comprising a full train wreck philosophy as defined by Richard Stallman.

  • @random6033
    @random6033 2 роки тому +56

    "I use Linux as my operating system," I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to mansplain with extreme precision. "Actually", he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!' I don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. It's Linux, but it's not GNU+Linux."
    The smile quickly drops from the man's face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" Coolly, I reply "If windows was compiled with gcc, would that make it GNU?" I interrupt his response with "-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even you were correct, you wont be for long."
    With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I've womansplained him to death.

    • @theanuragsoni
      @theanuragsoni 4 місяці тому +2

      I've read something like this or exactly this before somewhere

    • @random6033
      @random6033 4 місяці тому +2

      @@theanuragsoni it's a copypasta

  • @voiceoftreason1760
    @voiceoftreason1760 4 роки тому +17

    brought a tear to my eye

  • @jyothishkumar3098
    @jyothishkumar3098 Рік тому +7

    You missed the GNU C Library, glibc. Alpine doesn't replace GCC with musl libc, it replaces glibc. The compiler is still GCC.

  • @HoppyBrandon
    @HoppyBrandon 3 роки тому +9

    This was a fantastic explanation, thank you!

  • @perguto
    @perguto 2 роки тому +5

    cd is akshually a shell-builtin, but as a part of bash, it's still GNU

  • @martinstent5339
    @martinstent5339 2 роки тому +21

    Just a small thing, but please practice prouncing proprietary. You are constantly missing the second "R" and making it sound like propeitary which would mean (if it were a word) "in favour of eating pies".

  • @drip5503
    @drip5503 8 місяців тому +1

    I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as sneed, is in fact, sneed’s feed and seed, or as I've recently taken to calling it, sneed’s feed plus seed. Sneed is not a shop unto itself, but rather the name of the shop’s current owner, which used to belong to chuck, thus being called “chuck’s feeduck and seeduck” at some point in it’s history.
    Many sneed users run a modified version of the feed system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of feed which is widely used today is often called "sneed", and many of its users are
    not aware that it is basically the seed system, developed by chuck.
    There really is a sneed, and these people are using it, but it is just a
    part of the system they use. Sneed is the owner: the guy behind the counter that allocates the shop’s resources to the other sneeders.

  • @mitchelvalentino1569
    @mitchelvalentino1569 4 роки тому +23

    Sometimes the basics of Linux bear repeating. Excellent video!

  • @ProBarokis
    @ProBarokis 3 роки тому +29

    he said "autistic among us" guys omg !!!

  • @thalesmenegueco707
    @thalesmenegueco707 2 роки тому +2

    "There's no perfect video", this one:
    🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

  • @stingfiretube
    @stingfiretube Рік тому +1

    When you use Bedrock OS, that list becomes even larger. Be prepared to name all the distros you have used to build that.

  • @TheRealEtaoinShrdlu
    @TheRealEtaoinShrdlu 2 місяці тому +2

    "proprietary", not "propietary" 😂😂😂

  • @mistDexploit
    @mistDexploit Місяць тому

    thanks for this 7 minut video its a great video in YT idk why ur just got 50k view

  • @botowner8623
    @botowner8623 3 роки тому +22

    what if a distro uses GNU Hurd instead of Linux. Is it a GNU distro?

    • @glumfish6862
      @glumfish6862 3 роки тому +22

      its a fully operational GNU Operating system

    • @JR-ef3by
      @JR-ef3by 3 роки тому +1

      Well there is a unstable version of Debian that actully uses Gnu/Hurd instead of Gnu/Linux.You can install it in a qemu virtual machine.I might make an iso of it

    • @rohanofelvenpower5566
      @rohanofelvenpower5566 2 роки тому +2

      @@glumfish6862 good point. So if GNU is an OS and they insist we call it GNU Linux, then we should also call the distros like ubuntu as >> Debian Ubuntu. Or mint as >> Debian ubunutu mint Gnu/Linux. Its a shitshow and should have never been an argument in the first place.

    • @andrewwigglesworth3030
      @andrewwigglesworth3030 Рік тому +4

      @@rohanofelvenpower5566 You mention Debian. Have a look at what the distribution is called. It is "Debian GNU/Linux."

  • @nincompoop17
    @nincompoop17 3 роки тому +2

    Ah man this is so brilliantly put

  • @mistDexploit
    @mistDexploit Місяць тому

    this video give me lots if insight about linux... I was Talking its just GNU and linux but now...

  • @contentwithlowquality4594
    @contentwithlowquality4594 Місяць тому +1

    GNU is bringing the Angel Gabriel with it

  • @ahuvagottdiener6605
    @ahuvagottdiener6605 6 місяців тому +2

    I'd like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as Gnu/linux Is actually called linux Or as i've been personally starting to call it linux With Gnu Seasoning

  • @bitwise4996
    @bitwise4996 2 місяці тому +1

    Stalman is like the Socrates of technology.

  • @sougamerz_621
    @sougamerz_621 Рік тому +1

    I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

    • @toomobs
      @toomobs Рік тому +1

      I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

  • @MrRefael33
    @MrRefael33 4 роки тому +3

    Awesome video, thanks 👍

  • @Techonsapevole
    @Techonsapevole 4 роки тому +3

    I agree

  • @tobiasb.2823
    @tobiasb.2823 3 роки тому +13

    LiGNUx

  • @lucasmoratoaraujo8433
    @lucasmoratoaraujo8433 6 місяців тому

    Much like Andy and his dundermifflinfinity idea, I think you should put the words together and call it lignux.

  • @KenMikaze
    @KenMikaze 5 місяців тому +1

    cd is GNU, wait I've been using cd on window's cmd. is it GNU/Windows now?

  • @dannytopete9703
    @dannytopete9703 3 роки тому +11

    6:57 "acoustic Amogus"

  • @ultrahalf
    @ultrahalf 4 роки тому +25

    Did I triggered you? lmfao

  • @storyahee
    @storyahee 2 роки тому +2

    but for Linux without GNU tools?

  • @johndupont1413
    @johndupont1413 2 роки тому +2

    OS X is Unix based on BSD not Linux.

  • @Charli165
    @Charli165 18 днів тому

    Had us in the first half, not gonna lie

  • @crackpotfox
    @crackpotfox Рік тому

    It doesn't even make sense to say you run linux because it doesn't fit in with the "other options". OSX and Windows are more akin to saying I run Debian or I run Gentoo.
    So when people ask me what's on my computer i tell them Debian Linux.

  • @jeremywindfield2658
    @jeremywindfield2658 5 місяців тому

    Why does the GNU come before Linux when it’s built for Linux. Shouldn’t it be Linux + GNU?

  • @LadyTink
    @LadyTink 5 місяців тому

    Generated a song in Sona ai that took that copypasta and made a song of it

  • @Anthony-cn8ll
    @Anthony-cn8ll 2 роки тому +10

    Windows 10? 😤 No... System32/NT ✅

  • @mv-hkrlbdjq
    @mv-hkrlbdjq Рік тому

    Busybox is licensed under GPL it part of the GNU legacy in one way or another

  • @jordan.p51
    @jordan.p51 2 роки тому +1

    pro • pri • e •tar • y

  • @knuuj
    @knuuj 2 місяці тому +1

    hey hey hey, grub and bash were made by gnu!

  • @pewolo
    @pewolo 8 місяців тому

    Even Alpine Linux is a GNU/Linux.
    No distinction! They all are!

  • @techwizz-
    @techwizz- 2 роки тому +12

    I disagree with calling it Gnu/Linux. First off, there are a few Linux distros that contain 0 GNU software like Alpine for example. Not to mention GNU is definitely not the only contributor so why call it GNU/Linux instead of GNU/Microsoft/Google/Huawei/Meta/MORECOMPAINES/MOREINDIVIDUALS/Linux? GNU is only one contributor and are definitely NOT the only contributor. Nor is GNU software required with Linux systems. Not to mention it was proved Microsoft uses GNU software as well in the Windows XP source leak. So I guess Windows is GNU/WindowsNT. (Not disagreeing with you btw, just giving my thoughts as well. You said similar things).

    • @andrewwigglesworth3030
      @andrewwigglesworth3030 Рік тому

      "Linux distros that contain 0 GNU software like Alpine for example"
      I went to the package search on the Alpine website.
      I started with three searches: "readline", "tar" and "grub." They're all in there, in the main Alpine repositories, along with many, many other GNU packages.
      So, before you start pushing bullshit arguments, check your facts and your sources.

    • @TheSast
      @TheSast Рік тому +5

      ​@@andrewwigglesworth3030Having the ability to install GNU software and having it preinstalled is different.

    • @andrewwigglesworth3030
      @andrewwigglesworth3030 Рік тому

      @@TheSast @anon8510
      GRUB

  • @raptor4916
    @raptor4916 3 роки тому +6

    6:58 sus

  • @bluesdealer
    @bluesdealer 2 роки тому +4

    This reminds me of people who get triggered when you just say “America” instead of the full official name “United States of America.” It’s like, do you also want me to go around saying “Estados Unidos de Mexico” and “Constituição da República Federativa do Brasil?”
    Screw that. I will say “America,” “Mexico,” and “Brazil,” and you will know exactly what I mean.

    • @bioemiliano
      @bioemiliano 2 роки тому +3

      The thing is that America is a continent. I do think is retarded tho

    • @bluesdealer
      @bluesdealer 2 роки тому

      @@bioemiliano I think the old continental model described North America and South America as a single continent, but the more modern model based on plate tectonics correctly describes them as two separate continents. Regardless, when discussing countries only one is actually called "America" for short.

    • @BichaelStevens
      @BichaelStevens 2 роки тому +1

      @@bioemiliano if you can't tell America from North America apart, you might be on the spectrum

    • @Nominal_GDP
      @Nominal_GDP 2 роки тому +3

      @@BichaelStevens This so needlessly confusing. *North America* seemingly will be a smaller part of *America*, but not really. That's why calling the US America might be confusing (at least it was for me when I started learning English). That's why I prefer to call the country just by the US

    • @BichaelStevens
      @BichaelStevens 2 роки тому

      @@Nominal_GDP It's one of those things you just *know* . You can keep whining about nomenclature and "oooo, north and south of a whole entire" but in reality everyone's on the same page and you're just barking. This isn't file or cable label nomenclature, this is natural-born naming conventions that people have half-passively molded over centuries.
      You have a middle-half-quarter Manager's mindset like this is Google/Facebook, I have an engineer mindset.

  • @JoshuaRitter-v9l
    @JoshuaRitter-v9l 11 місяців тому

    I'd like to interject for a moment. What you're pronouncing pruh-PIE-uh-ter-ee is actually pronounced pruh-PRY-uh-ter-ee . . .

  • @zubiarfan
    @zubiarfan 2 роки тому +1

    Grub is also from GNU

    • @andrewwigglesworth3030
      @andrewwigglesworth3030 Рік тому +3

      Yes, because the GNU project is building an operating system, and many of the clowns in these comments (and in the video) have very little clue what they are going on about.

  • @NeverTrust298
    @NeverTrust298 8 місяців тому

    Linux is not the OS, Linux is a kernel

  • @ReaverZ3r0
    @ReaverZ3r0 5 місяців тому

    Bash grub and that staff its part of GNU

  • @ultradude5410
    @ultradude5410 3 роки тому +4

    Pro-PIE-etary
    Lol

  • @muhammadumarwaseem
    @muhammadumarwaseem 8 місяців тому

    i use arch, kali and parrot btw

  • @anxo_
    @anxo_ 3 роки тому +7

    lignux

  • @emredilek2226
    @emredilek2226 2 роки тому +1

    cool kids, yeah!

  • @renayesimmons4070
    @renayesimmons4070 2 роки тому

    IT'S ALIVE IT'S ALIVE!!!!

  • @barrychuckle5565
    @barrychuckle5565 2 роки тому

    PropRiertary, not propietary. No pies involved.

  • @techisdead
    @techisdead 5 місяців тому +1

    Pro-pie-a-ta-ry

  • @SSG_Productions
    @SSG_Productions 7 місяців тому

    I use alpine btw

  • @Psi105
    @Psi105 2 роки тому +4

    pro-pry-e-terry Not mad, just saying.

  • @ReaverZ3r0
    @ReaverZ3r0 5 місяців тому

    I use GNU OS

  • @trollerjakthetrollinggod-e7761
    @trollerjakthetrollinggod-e7761 2 роки тому +1

    6:58 among us

  • @taiga1295
    @taiga1295 Рік тому

    Why are people pronouncing the g in gnu nowadays?

    • @xX_Lol6_Xx
      @xX_Lol6_Xx Рік тому

      Because that's how the acronym is pronounced.

    • @taiga1295
      @taiga1295 Рік тому +1

      @@xX_Lol6_Xx the g in gnu(the animal) is silent and the G in GNU(the acronym) is recursive. They're just messing with people.

    • @andrewwigglesworth3030
      @andrewwigglesworth3030 Рік тому

      @@taiga1295 Gnus Not Unix.

    • @mikloscsuvar6097
      @mikloscsuvar6097 4 місяці тому

      Why would not we?

  • @iusegentoobtw
    @iusegentoobtw 2 роки тому

    Thunar hype gang represent

  • @ThePhinista
    @ThePhinista 2 роки тому

    6:58 *SUS DETECTED*

  • @mitchelltester2626
    @mitchelltester2626 2 роки тому +1

    proπitary

  • @sa_med
    @sa_med 8 місяців тому

    Communism against proprietary🛠

  • @BichaelStevens
    @BichaelStevens 2 роки тому

    Proprietary pro-pie-eataries 🤣

  • @beyondmeaning
    @beyondmeaning 2 роки тому +1

    Lignu

  • @chris_3934
    @chris_3934 2 роки тому +1

    6:57 AMONGUS

  • @Ranburu
    @Ranburu Рік тому

    6:58

  • @caizza3
    @caizza3 2 місяці тому

    This is funny af 😂

  • @migkillerphantom
    @migkillerphantom 4 роки тому +16

    first

    • @migkillerphantom
      @migkillerphantom 4 роки тому +25

      sorry, in all my years on youtube I've never had the opportunity

    • @MentalOutlaw
      @MentalOutlaw  4 роки тому +24

      No problem, this channel is small right now, you'll have plenty more opportunities.

    • @musab3210
      @musab3210 3 роки тому +2

      @@migkillerphantom just turn on notifications so that your phone rings when a new video gets uploaded

    • @thecashewtrader3328
      @thecashewtrader3328 3 роки тому

      O w O

    • @ocsanik502
      @ocsanik502 2 роки тому

      last

  • @Kapsyloffer
    @Kapsyloffer 2 роки тому

    06:58 sus

  • @contentwithlowquality4594
    @contentwithlowquality4594 Місяць тому +1

    saying Linux is unnecessary verbosity lol... may as well just call it GNU

  • @suponjubobu5536
    @suponjubobu5536 2 роки тому

    4:43 I am watching this on a macbook air...

    • @suponjubobu5536
      @suponjubobu5536 2 роки тому

      I'm gonna keep using it until it stops working, almost 6 years still going strong!

  • @exterminator9676
    @exterminator9676 2 роки тому +1

    How does protecting your privacy make you any better than someone who doesn't tho?

    • @KenMikaze
      @KenMikaze 5 місяців тому +1

      how does being child-free make you any better than someone who has children??

    • @exterminator9676
      @exterminator9676 5 місяців тому

      @@KenMikaze Not sure what made you comment on this 2 year old comment but okay. And yeah the answer is it doesn't it's preference based.

  • @juliansims9392
    @juliansims9392 2 роки тому +1

    Bro please back away from the mic we can all hear you swallowing spit.

  • @firebadnofire9768
    @firebadnofire9768 9 місяців тому +1

    "I use Linux as my operating system," I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to beardsplain with extreme precision. "Actually", he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!' I don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. It's Linux, but it's not GNU+Linux."
    The smile quickly drops from the man's face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" Coolly, I reply "If windows was compiled with gcc, would that make it GNU?" I interrupt his response with "-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even if you were correct, you won't be for long."
    With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I've muslpilled him to death.

  • @lasagnajohn6519
    @lasagnajohn6519 2 роки тому

    6:58