Today I learned: We should all leave a single one line comment in the Linux Kernel so that there is always living people who can refuse a hostile take-over of Linux in the distant future.
No, please don't do this. No need to spam commits that won't get merged. If you want to contribute, that's great. Putting your name in a comment is dumb. If you want to make a mark, actually commit something useful and you can be a proud contributor, forever credited for your code. I'm only saying this as I can seriously imagine people who've never touched code in their lives trying to do this.
Linus Torvalds: "The whole "Open Source" renaming was done largely _exactly_ because people wanted to distance themselves from the FSF. The fact that the FSF and it's followers refused to accept the name "Open Source", and continued to call Linux "Free Software" is not _our_ fault. Similarly, the fact that rms and the FSF has tried to paint Linux as a GNU project (going as far as trying to rename it "GNU/Linux" at every opportunity they get) is their confusion, not ours. I personally have always been very clear about this: Linux is "Open Source". It was never a FSF project, and it was always about giving source code back and keeping it open, not about anything else." Tell the whole story 👍
Yes, but irrelevant. Linus uses "Linux" for the kernel, since that's all he cares about. Makes sense, but most people say "Linux" to a complete system with Linux as a kernel. It makes sense that such a system be called GNU/Linux considering the amount of GNU software in such a system. Abbreviation to just "Linux" shouldn't be such an issue though. It's just a name..
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as a Shitpost, is in fact, GNU/Shitpost, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Shitpost. A Shitpost is not a good joke unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU copypasta made funny by the GNU corelib-tards, FSF marketing fails and viral rofl-inducing collection of in-jokes comprising a full train wreck philosophy as defined by Richard Stallman.
"I use Linux as my operating system," I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to mansplain with extreme precision. "Actually", he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!' I don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. It's Linux, but it's not GNU+Linux." The smile quickly drops from the man's face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" Coolly, I reply "If windows was compiled with gcc, would that make it GNU?" I interrupt his response with "-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even you were correct, you wont be for long." With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I've womansplained him to death.
Just a small thing, but please practice prouncing proprietary. You are constantly missing the second "R" and making it sound like propeitary which would mean (if it were a word) "in favour of eating pies".
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as sneed, is in fact, sneed’s feed and seed, or as I've recently taken to calling it, sneed’s feed plus seed. Sneed is not a shop unto itself, but rather the name of the shop’s current owner, which used to belong to chuck, thus being called “chuck’s feeduck and seeduck” at some point in it’s history. Many sneed users run a modified version of the feed system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of feed which is widely used today is often called "sneed", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the seed system, developed by chuck. There really is a sneed, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Sneed is the owner: the guy behind the counter that allocates the shop’s resources to the other sneeders.
Well there is a unstable version of Debian that actully uses Gnu/Hurd instead of Gnu/Linux.You can install it in a qemu virtual machine.I might make an iso of it
@@glumfish6862 good point. So if GNU is an OS and they insist we call it GNU Linux, then we should also call the distros like ubuntu as >> Debian Ubuntu. Or mint as >> Debian ubunutu mint Gnu/Linux. Its a shitshow and should have never been an argument in the first place.
I'd like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as Gnu/linux Is actually called linux Or as i've been personally starting to call it linux With Gnu Seasoning
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
It doesn't even make sense to say you run linux because it doesn't fit in with the "other options". OSX and Windows are more akin to saying I run Debian or I run Gentoo. So when people ask me what's on my computer i tell them Debian Linux.
I disagree with calling it Gnu/Linux. First off, there are a few Linux distros that contain 0 GNU software like Alpine for example. Not to mention GNU is definitely not the only contributor so why call it GNU/Linux instead of GNU/Microsoft/Google/Huawei/Meta/MORECOMPAINES/MOREINDIVIDUALS/Linux? GNU is only one contributor and are definitely NOT the only contributor. Nor is GNU software required with Linux systems. Not to mention it was proved Microsoft uses GNU software as well in the Windows XP source leak. So I guess Windows is GNU/WindowsNT. (Not disagreeing with you btw, just giving my thoughts as well. You said similar things).
"Linux distros that contain 0 GNU software like Alpine for example" I went to the package search on the Alpine website. I started with three searches: "readline", "tar" and "grub." They're all in there, in the main Alpine repositories, along with many, many other GNU packages. So, before you start pushing bullshit arguments, check your facts and your sources.
This reminds me of people who get triggered when you just say “America” instead of the full official name “United States of America.” It’s like, do you also want me to go around saying “Estados Unidos de Mexico” and “Constituição da República Federativa do Brasil?” Screw that. I will say “America,” “Mexico,” and “Brazil,” and you will know exactly what I mean.
@@bioemiliano I think the old continental model described North America and South America as a single continent, but the more modern model based on plate tectonics correctly describes them as two separate continents. Regardless, when discussing countries only one is actually called "America" for short.
@@BichaelStevens This so needlessly confusing. *North America* seemingly will be a smaller part of *America*, but not really. That's why calling the US America might be confusing (at least it was for me when I started learning English). That's why I prefer to call the country just by the US
@@Nominal_GDP It's one of those things you just *know* . You can keep whining about nomenclature and "oooo, north and south of a whole entire" but in reality everyone's on the same page and you're just barking. This isn't file or cable label nomenclature, this is natural-born naming conventions that people have half-passively molded over centuries. You have a middle-half-quarter Manager's mindset like this is Google/Facebook, I have an engineer mindset.
Yes, because the GNU project is building an operating system, and many of the clowns in these comments (and in the video) have very little clue what they are going on about.
"I use Linux as my operating system," I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to beardsplain with extreme precision. "Actually", he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!' I don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. It's Linux, but it's not GNU+Linux." The smile quickly drops from the man's face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" Coolly, I reply "If windows was compiled with gcc, would that make it GNU?" I interrupt his response with "-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even if you were correct, you won't be for long." With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I've muslpilled him to death.
Today I learned:
We should all leave a single one line comment in the Linux Kernel so that there is always living people who can refuse a hostile take-over of Linux in the distant future.
Someone could choose to simply remove the comment in the "takeover" and you would no longer have a say.
@@keco185 It would still be in the git history that someone deleted that line, so his contribution still counts
your username lol
No, please don't do this. No need to spam commits that won't get merged. If you want to contribute, that's great. Putting your name in a comment is dumb. If you want to make a mark, actually commit something useful and you can be a proud contributor, forever credited for your code.
I'm only saying this as I can seriously imagine people who've never touched code in their lives trying to do this.
@@rpe im using msys2 btw
I just glad i listened to the end
Facts
I use Arch Gnu+Linux+Zsh+Xorg+DWM+Soystemd btw
Oh you use Arch? Guess what? You use soystemd btw.
@@coompiler9029 I distro hopped to slackware- check mate
I distro hopped to Guix now. Fuck, now I am obligated to say I Use GNU!
Forgot grub smh
@@ME0WMERE He's using systemd
@@atzuyro systemd is not a bootloader
pro-pie-etary
pro-pry-itary
Read this comment at the beginning of the video and was so hoping he said it just like this. Was not disappointed. Still laughing
Linus Torvalds:
"The whole "Open Source" renaming was done largely _exactly_ because people
wanted to distance themselves from the FSF. The fact that the FSF and it's
followers refused to accept the name "Open Source", and continued to call
Linux "Free Software" is not _our_ fault.
Similarly, the fact that rms and the FSF has tried to paint Linux as a GNU
project (going as far as trying to rename it "GNU/Linux" at every
opportunity they get) is their confusion, not ours.
I personally have always been very clear about this: Linux is "Open
Source". It was never a FSF project, and it was always about giving source
code back and keeping it open, not about anything else."
Tell the whole story 👍
Linus: make your kernel so bloated it's considered an entire operating system
Yes, but irrelevant. Linus uses "Linux" for the kernel, since that's all he cares about. Makes sense, but most people say "Linux" to a complete system with Linux as a kernel. It makes sense that such a system be called GNU/Linux considering the amount of GNU software in such a system. Abbreviation to just "Linux" shouldn't be such an issue though. It's just a name..
The term "Open Source" was coined in 1998 to bury the ethical aspects of Free Software and only present practical advantages.
The difference between Free Software and "Open Source", and why Free Software is better:
ua-cam.com/video/FfrDTPIP-yY/v-deo.html
@@iskamag it's not bloated it's monolithic.
I'd just like to interject for a moment.
What you’re referring to as a Shitpost, is in fact, GNU/Shitpost, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Shitpost. A Shitpost is not a good joke unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU copypasta made funny by the GNU corelib-tards, FSF marketing fails and viral rofl-inducing collection of in-jokes comprising a full train wreck philosophy as defined by Richard Stallman.
"I use Linux as my operating system," I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to mansplain with extreme precision. "Actually", he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!' I don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. It's Linux, but it's not GNU+Linux."
The smile quickly drops from the man's face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" Coolly, I reply "If windows was compiled with gcc, would that make it GNU?" I interrupt his response with "-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even you were correct, you wont be for long."
With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I've womansplained him to death.
I've read something like this or exactly this before somewhere
@@theanuragsoni it's a copypasta
brought a tear to my eye
You missed the GNU C Library, glibc. Alpine doesn't replace GCC with musl libc, it replaces glibc. The compiler is still GCC.
This was a fantastic explanation, thank you!
cd is akshually a shell-builtin, but as a part of bash, it's still GNU
Just a small thing, but please practice prouncing proprietary. You are constantly missing the second "R" and making it sound like propeitary which would mean (if it were a word) "in favour of eating pies".
🙄
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as sneed, is in fact, sneed’s feed and seed, or as I've recently taken to calling it, sneed’s feed plus seed. Sneed is not a shop unto itself, but rather the name of the shop’s current owner, which used to belong to chuck, thus being called “chuck’s feeduck and seeduck” at some point in it’s history.
Many sneed users run a modified version of the feed system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of feed which is widely used today is often called "sneed", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the seed system, developed by chuck.
There really is a sneed, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Sneed is the owner: the guy behind the counter that allocates the shop’s resources to the other sneeders.
Sometimes the basics of Linux bear repeating. Excellent video!
he said "autistic among us" guys omg !!!
sus
Omg omg omg i failed the game omg
"There's no perfect video", this one:
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
When you use Bedrock OS, that list becomes even larger. Be prepared to name all the distros you have used to build that.
"proprietary", not "propietary" 😂😂😂
thanks for this 7 minut video its a great video in YT idk why ur just got 50k view
what if a distro uses GNU Hurd instead of Linux. Is it a GNU distro?
its a fully operational GNU Operating system
Well there is a unstable version of Debian that actully uses Gnu/Hurd instead of Gnu/Linux.You can install it in a qemu virtual machine.I might make an iso of it
@@glumfish6862 good point. So if GNU is an OS and they insist we call it GNU Linux, then we should also call the distros like ubuntu as >> Debian Ubuntu. Or mint as >> Debian ubunutu mint Gnu/Linux. Its a shitshow and should have never been an argument in the first place.
@@rohanofelvenpower5566 You mention Debian. Have a look at what the distribution is called. It is "Debian GNU/Linux."
Ah man this is so brilliantly put
this video give me lots if insight about linux... I was Talking its just GNU and linux but now...
GNU is bringing the Angel Gabriel with it
I'd like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as Gnu/linux Is actually called linux Or as i've been personally starting to call it linux With Gnu Seasoning
Stalman is like the Socrates of technology.
Diogenes
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Awesome video, thanks 👍
I agree
LiGNUx
Much like Andy and his dundermifflinfinity idea, I think you should put the words together and call it lignux.
cd is GNU, wait I've been using cd on window's cmd. is it GNU/Windows now?
6:57 "acoustic Amogus"
Did I triggered you? lmfao
trigger? No
inspire to make this video? Absolutely :)
😁
but for Linux without GNU tools?
OS X is Unix based on BSD not Linux.
Had us in the first half, not gonna lie
It doesn't even make sense to say you run linux because it doesn't fit in with the "other options". OSX and Windows are more akin to saying I run Debian or I run Gentoo.
So when people ask me what's on my computer i tell them Debian Linux.
Why does the GNU come before Linux when it’s built for Linux. Shouldn’t it be Linux + GNU?
Generated a song in Sona ai that took that copypasta and made a song of it
Windows 10? 😤 No... System32/NT ✅
Busybox is licensed under GPL it part of the GNU legacy in one way or another
pro • pri • e •tar • y
hey hey hey, grub and bash were made by gnu!
Even Alpine Linux is a GNU/Linux.
No distinction! They all are!
I disagree with calling it Gnu/Linux. First off, there are a few Linux distros that contain 0 GNU software like Alpine for example. Not to mention GNU is definitely not the only contributor so why call it GNU/Linux instead of GNU/Microsoft/Google/Huawei/Meta/MORECOMPAINES/MOREINDIVIDUALS/Linux? GNU is only one contributor and are definitely NOT the only contributor. Nor is GNU software required with Linux systems. Not to mention it was proved Microsoft uses GNU software as well in the Windows XP source leak. So I guess Windows is GNU/WindowsNT. (Not disagreeing with you btw, just giving my thoughts as well. You said similar things).
"Linux distros that contain 0 GNU software like Alpine for example"
I went to the package search on the Alpine website.
I started with three searches: "readline", "tar" and "grub." They're all in there, in the main Alpine repositories, along with many, many other GNU packages.
So, before you start pushing bullshit arguments, check your facts and your sources.
@@andrewwigglesworth3030Having the ability to install GNU software and having it preinstalled is different.
@@TheSast @anon8510
GRUB
6:58 sus
This reminds me of people who get triggered when you just say “America” instead of the full official name “United States of America.” It’s like, do you also want me to go around saying “Estados Unidos de Mexico” and “Constituição da República Federativa do Brasil?”
Screw that. I will say “America,” “Mexico,” and “Brazil,” and you will know exactly what I mean.
The thing is that America is a continent. I do think is retarded tho
@@bioemiliano I think the old continental model described North America and South America as a single continent, but the more modern model based on plate tectonics correctly describes them as two separate continents. Regardless, when discussing countries only one is actually called "America" for short.
@@bioemiliano if you can't tell America from North America apart, you might be on the spectrum
@@BichaelStevens This so needlessly confusing. *North America* seemingly will be a smaller part of *America*, but not really. That's why calling the US America might be confusing (at least it was for me when I started learning English). That's why I prefer to call the country just by the US
@@Nominal_GDP It's one of those things you just *know* . You can keep whining about nomenclature and "oooo, north and south of a whole entire" but in reality everyone's on the same page and you're just barking. This isn't file or cable label nomenclature, this is natural-born naming conventions that people have half-passively molded over centuries.
You have a middle-half-quarter Manager's mindset like this is Google/Facebook, I have an engineer mindset.
I'd like to interject for a moment. What you're pronouncing pruh-PIE-uh-ter-ee is actually pronounced pruh-PRY-uh-ter-ee . . .
Grub is also from GNU
Yes, because the GNU project is building an operating system, and many of the clowns in these comments (and in the video) have very little clue what they are going on about.
Linux is not the OS, Linux is a kernel
Bash grub and that staff its part of GNU
Pro-PIE-etary
Lol
i use arch, kali and parrot btw
lignux
ligma
cool kids, yeah!
IT'S ALIVE IT'S ALIVE!!!!
PropRiertary, not propietary. No pies involved.
Pro-pie-a-ta-ry
I use alpine btw
pro-pry-e-terry Not mad, just saying.
I use GNU OS
6:58 among us
Why are people pronouncing the g in gnu nowadays?
Because that's how the acronym is pronounced.
@@xX_Lol6_Xx the g in gnu(the animal) is silent and the G in GNU(the acronym) is recursive. They're just messing with people.
@@taiga1295 Gnus Not Unix.
Why would not we?
Thunar hype gang represent
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proπitary
Communism against proprietary🛠
Proprietary pro-pie-eataries 🤣
Lignu
6:57 AMONGUS
6:58
This is funny af 😂
first
sorry, in all my years on youtube I've never had the opportunity
No problem, this channel is small right now, you'll have plenty more opportunities.
@@migkillerphantom just turn on notifications so that your phone rings when a new video gets uploaded
O w O
last
06:58 sus
saying Linux is unnecessary verbosity lol... may as well just call it GNU
4:43 I am watching this on a macbook air...
I'm gonna keep using it until it stops working, almost 6 years still going strong!
How does protecting your privacy make you any better than someone who doesn't tho?
how does being child-free make you any better than someone who has children??
@@KenMikaze Not sure what made you comment on this 2 year old comment but okay. And yeah the answer is it doesn't it's preference based.
Bro please back away from the mic we can all hear you swallowing spit.
"I use Linux as my operating system," I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to beardsplain with extreme precision. "Actually", he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!' I don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. It's Linux, but it's not GNU+Linux."
The smile quickly drops from the man's face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" Coolly, I reply "If windows was compiled with gcc, would that make it GNU?" I interrupt his response with "-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even if you were correct, you won't be for long."
With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I've muslpilled him to death.
6:58