How to mix in stereo... without sucking in mono (part 1)
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- Опубліковано 7 кві 2020
- Part 1: Toeing The Blumlein.
When you pan a mono part left or right you only change the levels feeding the left or right channels, this doesn't introduce any timing or phase differences. Likewise if you record stereo signals with a coincident microphone pair, signals arrive at both microphones at the same time, and in phase. This avoids the worst possible mono compatibility issues, but still doesn't provide perfect mono compatibility. This tutorial by Dan Worrall shows the pitfalls that remain, and looks at a few ways to use panning and effects to create a sense of width, while mostly following Alan Blumlein's original rules and avoiding any timing differences between the channels.
This series continues with • How to mix in stereo..... .
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This was so good, I feel like I have to pay someone for it. Wow.
Go find Dan worrall on UA-cam. He does good content
@@adnana7918 Yeah been a subscriber of his for quite some time 👌
You ARE paying for it. You know those adverts? Watching them IS your payment. Or, if you are paying for Premium, you are paying with money. Or if the video is ad-free yet sponsored, then the video IS the advert and you are paying for it by watching it.! :)
@@joelonsdale Adblock ;)
@@mgmg116 It's sponsored content, your still paying by watching, even with the adverts blocked.
The two sentences to describe mixing;
“It’s a bit more complicated than that.”
“Well not exactly…”
i've been doing this shit for 15 years.
my mind is BLOWN. this is like unlocking a new achievement in mixing abilities. holy shit. some of the things people do make so much more sense. I never knew about these things.
Fabfilter: Uploads Video to UA-cam
Me: "Grabs Pen and Paper"
"further right than hard panned" now we understand why Dan is so good at what he does
He is Ambisonicaly right and Dolby Atmosly good, tutorialy speaking...
There is no limit 😁
How he makes the part sounds like it's coming from behindi is quite mind blowing too.
15 years into the game, one takes the liberty to think that one has figured it out, and then comes Dan with such videos. Thank you for keeping me humble.
These are NOT fabfilter videos.
These are DAN WORRALL videos.
@@funguy8801 :D just in case! Love both Dan's content and well, fabfilter all the way! (L)
@@MixYourWay and Subscribe to both channels! :)
To quote Dan´s channel description "I also make official videos for FabFilter, UVI and others, but this is my own channel, and all my own opinions."
Dan is just an audio tutorial monster...I am addict since his Camel Audio Alchemy tutorial series on sound design from more than 10 years ago. I still have them in MP4...in multiple HD to be sure to not loose them.
Camel Audio doesn't exist anymore as such but Logic Audio (Apple) bought their soft synth called Alchemy.
@@mimidhof2179 Any chance you could share the Alchemy videos? I've been looking for those since they went down.
I'm in shock about what I just learned. I just had to sit down in silence for 20 minutes and conceptualize the info Dan just casually presented. So grateful for your work Dan. It's so relieving to learn and understand the how and why of it all. THANK YOU
I want this guy to teach me everything.
Right? if you're not aware, the guy narrating this is Dan Worrall, and he's got more mixing tutorials of much the same quality on his own channel.
This make so much more sense than anything I've EVER tried learning from. The visuals without the cutaway to someone talking is fantastic, as well. It's almost art therapy. Bravo!!!!
Once I heard Dan's voice I automatically went up and clicked the thumbs up!
Dan could stop wars with his voice
Dan Worrall is the de facto industry 'seal of approval' for quality sound design and engineering tutorials.
Yeah that's how you know where people knows him. Nice to meet you guys...
I think we are a familly. But I think it is more about the flow how he express his ideas and make it simple for us...
oh, hello there
This is how religions start.
Dan Worrall. The world leader we need right now
yeah, in Brasil we need a president!
@@RafaelPfleger you mean the world's first sonic President...
The tutorial prime minister of this galaxy.
@@RafaelPfleger you guys are so lucky having Bolsanaro. Here in Canada we got blackface Trudeau.
@@RafaelPfleger you probably supported his stabbing too smh.
I love this topic, there isn’t enough on this topic. Mono seems more common than ever. Mono speakers everywhere, mono streams. I’ve started mixing in mono.
Also there are far too many plugins that don’t seem to account for mono compatibility.
Plugin Alliance are one of the few companies that includes some type of mono feature in most of their plugins
This series is genuinely incredible. The quality of the information, the maximization of your time without extraneous information or cutaways, the visuals, the VoiceOver. Well done, and thank you for putting this out!
Been mixing for years and thought I might find an interesting tidbit here. Instead my mind was blown. One thing I love about audio and music is just how much there always is to continue learning.
The best explantion about a subject i have ever learned
why have i never thought about this???? this is eye opening (ear opening) dude, thank you for this!!
It's ridiculous how often I come back to this video. So many great tips in 15 minutes it's kind of insane...
Am I the only one who feels like a freshman who walked into a class of grad students arguing astrophysics? So much info in so little time. I find myself getting distracted by wondering how he is able to think about so many things at once, have such a tremendous mastery of the FabFilter plugins (a huge achievement itself), exercise such a great creative sense, and have such a sound understanding of the technical/mathematic elements of what he's doing at the same time. So inspiring!
Inspiring and soul crushing
When mixing I do try to swap between mono and stereo to help keep it's comparability, it's quite a discipline but worth it, I think it keeps things more realistic.
Finally, a decent mixing tutorial directed by Guy Ritchie
Whoever disliked this, does not deserve Dan's celestial voice on mundane speakers.
It should be prohibited to listen to Dan on hearbuds...
Dan's voice alone makes me smart
SoulChorea i concur
Dan, you are an absolute eye-opener. Your tutorials are always well explained, and in high quality. I don't know how, but when you talk I really feel trust about everything you are saying.
Thanks for making us better musicians. It really matters, and it really helps.
Dan, have you considered starting an online school?
I second that!
He had a website platinumears dot com.
But I think it's down now check what he is offering on his UA-cam Channel on his affiliate programme, really interesting plans there.
Yeah he diserve much more attention that's a fact since a long time.
I think that the least we could do is to mention him when we see bad tutorials like so: made by Dan Worral this bad tutorial could have been wonderfull... or something like that...
Fabfilter Academy, i'd give them all my money
Bottom line.
"I'm keeping a photo frame of Dan in my mixing room". Respect!!!
That and audiobook narration. Such a great presentation voice.
And this is a very informative vid. I've recently been doing more mono checks on mixes because BT speakers and room settings where the stereo image is lost or obscured. This is great :)
These are pure gold. Thanks fabfilter and dan
Thank you Fab Filter to bring us Dan Worral's great tutorials. I hope you value him as he diserve it. Probably well, seen the long terme collaboration...
These are some of the best YT videos on sound mixing production.
Finally - a tutorial that explains this correctly. Nice job Fabfilter 👏
What an amazing tutorial! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Dan Worrall and Fabfilter are... the perfect mix! 🙏🏻👌🏻
Best explanation videos ever , I hear, I see, I understand ! PERFECT CONTENT
That's the clearest and most informative demonstration & explanation of mixing in mono/collapsing a mix that I've seen, thank you
I need to watch/listen to part one 50 more times before I go on to part 2! Thank you so much for this.
Me listening on phone speakers at 13:15
You’re right, they did disappear
Exactly, it was literally silent at that point.
A great way of explaining the complicated parts of mixing
Perhaps the best 16 minutes I've spent this year. THANK YOU for this incredible tutorial. Absolute gold.
the demo song annoyed me at first but now I seem to enjoy it lol. learned a lot, awesome video
repetition. legitimizes.
Thank You so much Dan, also Fabfilter for putting this together, it's so amazing. This has really helped me beyond what I can explain.
Thank You once again.
Just saw this! Weird I never got a notification for either part. Love your videos and plugins!
thanks fabfilter this is amazing, dont give up on us, more videos like these forever
This is stuff i've intuited and came across naturally when mixing/mastering, but I also learned so much more as well from this video. This is a pure knowledge drop. Respect
Thanks, that is very helpful as usual with Dan.
Instead of going for the surround / Atmos concept (which is sort of impractical / pointless for music and likely won't really stick anyhow), they should have implemented a seperate channel for a dedicated mono mix. Mono devices like phones could decode the signal and use that channel rather than simply folding the stereo down. Why has nobody ever thought of that?
FAB-ulous! Using Fab filters to illustrate the discussion cleared up some confusion for me.
You have a new fan, Dan!
Ive been learning about the stereo field for years, Im still confused about alot, but this is the foundation I needed to build my understanding upon, thank you for that
THE BEST tutorial I found on this subject. Congrats! Can't be more clear and simple than this, I think.
Congratulation for you to meet Dan Worral's tutorials... You will remember this day your all audio life... if you diserve it...
These videos are simply brilliant.
I asked several questions about stereo imaging in the Music Producers Facebook group just a couple weeks ago and then this video comes out. Hand of God?
Thanks, Dan - much appreciated! And, I eagerly look forward to the second video!
Look rather forward to any seconds of any of his video... you'll appreciate any ones...
Thanks for explaining matrix virtual surround without even mentioning it. Listening to the phase shift example on a 5.1 setup with a matrix decoder really sells the point across.
That last part went over my head. Couldn't figure out what exactly that Volcano plugin was doing. Guess i'll wait for part 2!
I never hardpanned anything in my life but I didn't know that they drop volume in mono, thank you.
All producers, engineers, etc must know these kind of stuff!
Finally, I was waiting for this
Don't wait for it follow Dan Worral.
Exactly the explanation I was looking for! Thank you!
awesome video :o never really understood those concepts before. I can't say I'll be a pro with this right after watching, but it's definitely gonna help me getting better in the future, so thank you !
Very well done and informative, Thank you!!
Yes! We've been waiting for this!!
I am loving this discussion. Also, the guitar part that comes in at 16:00 is so sick! The whole production is really cool but I’m really feeling the playing and the mix of that part especially.
That part reminds me of a piece of Buckethead:
ua-cam.com/video/YygbOC21PcM/v-deo.html
Thanks for the clear explanation, with examples.
Pleasure to watch!
This is insane! Love it. I have so much to learn on this.
There are no better videos like these, if you want to deepen your understanding of all things audio. Thank you.
My brain is hard panned after watching this bad boy
Your head is in your Haas effect...lol...
Great video!
I love topics like that!
This is a noob mistake that I've been guilty of previously.
I used to pan things as much as possible and make songs sound great on headphones, but totally suck when playing them in mono!
I remember hearing the "change the pan law" tip a while ago. I didn't understand it at all so I just remixed my entire arrangement using a different pan law. I didn't hear any difference so I even doubted my hearing and questioned the point to continue mixing if I cannot hear the difference. And now you tell me I was NOT meant to hear any difference, and my hearing was actually superior to those youtube hero wannabes. Not only you keep opening my eyes but you make me notice I'm capable of much more than I thought. But I wonder how many people gave up mixing, thinking they suck after a respected channel gave them a tip which didn't make sense.
I see a video talking about how to do something in detail, figure it might be Dan Worrall so I opened all the videos related and watch them alll!
FF ALWAYS bailing me out!!! Thnx guys
Thanks you so much this video changed why im not hearing extra stereo on my headphone
Excellent tutorial. Additional bonus points for using Reaper to demonstrate ;)
Quite sure I’ve never seen such an abundance of ( most deserved! ) love and genuine appreciation in a comment section! Wonderful (:
Beautiful Demonstration, Thank you!!!!
Amazing. Something no one else talks about. Thank you so much.
And using Reaper as the DAW in the video? YOU GET A SUB.
I love you Dan.
I love this content!!! Thank you!
Dan Worrall is a freaking alien
He is not a being he is a cosmic strenght...
Dan Worrall is a G!
Great tutorial!
Thank you so much for this video!
Wow, thats the best like/dislike ratio I have ever seen on a YT video! Nice. Thanks for this educational video!
Thank you for the knowledge!
More importantly for the share of his knowledge and the how he does it in such a brilliant way.
I wish these videos existed when I was working with the 1st version of FruityLoops and RT Tracker 😂
This guy is really legit and this is exactly what I wanted to learn re:mid side eq😃
wow so clear and helpful thanks
Fab. Thanks Dan!!
I enjoyed watching this video on my mono phone speakers
Quarantaine Dan 🙌!
Thank you Dan 🤘
This is amazing
3:20 took me about 10 seconds of confusion wondering why the two examples sounded exactly same when I realized I've been listening to this video over a mono bluetooth speaker lol
Awesome stuff to try.
Wow, thanks for this accessible introduction. But, crap, advanced topics again. I feel really inadequate. But I have noticed when I've used m/s processing on my mix/master bus that things can get wider than they "really" are. Now I might be able to understand why!
this is crazy useful!
this is a masterclass
heck yeah! watching this video on my phone speakers!
man that's pure gold
I don't care how where you are on the audio spectrum (pun intended) from rookie to pro, watching these videos for confirmations and refreshers is where it's at.
Legendary info.
that proq3 trick is amazing...
Dan worrell is fast becoming the David Attenborough of attenuation
Genius. Blew my mind many times haha