Beginner's Guide to Bus Processing
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- Опубліковано 11 гру 2019
- In this tutorial, Dan Worrall explains the basics of bus processing, e.g. the advantages of grouping channels and processing them together, master bus processing, etc.
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The simple things in life - sipping red wine on a Thursday evening and watching a Dan Worrall tutorial.
Dan Worrall is the audio engineer's own David Attenborough
Truth
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great analogy
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Man, Dan could describe types of paper and I would listen. Just stellar, guys.
For real. Dan is such a blessing! Even if I know most of what he's talking about, it's still so entertaining and informative to listen to him.
I'm a simple man. I see a ff tutorial, I click.
These videos are the best I've seen, incredibly well done. I've been a sound engineer for 15 years and these videos make me realize how much I don't know! Thanks for making these.
Best instructional videos on the web. So much detail and clarification given, yet they are short, concise and very helpful. Many thanks to Dan and FabFilter!
fav Moment when I get a Fabfilter Notification
Same here
Daniel Menezes count me in too! 😁👍❤️
Begginers Guide. Proceeds to enlighten every single human on earth
Beyond the Intersample Field!
If Dan had an online mixing course I'd buy it. Amazing tutorials!
Another excellent trip to Dan University !!
Note that at 3:10 if you added another similar boost at about 2k... you’d have Batman !
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I've learned nothing, I just came to listen to Dan Worrall
Seems like an impossible combination tbf
Very informative! I've been watching a lot of your vids. Good to see a new one.
But I now have to reclassify myself as a beginner.
A wealth of knowledge in 12 minutes. Glad I clicked on this video.
i still don't know whats more satisfying....his voice or the fabulous plugins...
aand another very useful video by Dan, great work, glad you keep your "promo" videos in style of "tutorials" Fabfilter folks! :)
I have an idea what next "big" Fabfilter plugin could be to fit within your plugin set - an advanced spectral-based dynamics processor
Fresh perspectives. Always a pleasure.
Thank you. I really appreciate these videos. Quality information.
One your best videos to date Dan. Excellent tutorial on a very important subject. Keep them coming!
I feel like i got gifted superpowers thanks to Dan.
This video really covers a lot of ground! GREAT 👍 job!
wow, one the best bus tutorial I've seen. Thanks
Any music producer: Delay is such a simple tool
FabFilter: Hold my colorful interface
More plz! I love this guy :)
No BS, straight to the point, great videos. Very usefull, thank you :)
👀... I promise you: Dan could simply read back the alphabet and I'd be like, 'Q, you say? Hiding in plain sight. It's like I never knew! Well done, old chap!' 🤷🏾♂️
The guy is a MASTER VO artist/pitcher/narrator/influencer! 🗣️
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Hello. Is your name Hymn? That is very cool.
@@rickyanthony Yessir... thx
Hymn
best tutorials on earth, you find them here
Really good stuff on here, many thanks.
Thank you very much, very detailed and clear
Mr worral , amazing as always
The advice at 3:15 is so true sometikes i wont go back to projects cause i listened way too long
Thanks Dan & Thanks fabfilter!
Dan is such a treasure please never stop making these videos
Just came here from Fab Filter Dan’s sample rate/oversample video. These mini guides/lessons are absolutely perfect. (Still don’t have the money for the Fab Filter total bundle, though I really want it!)
Absolutely wonderful 😊
Thank you fabfilter
Proud new team fabfilter member
Dans tutorials are like crack. I need more, regularly!
Yay Dan Worrall!
This video ends with a cliffhanger on how to use Pro MB on a bus.
It is about the time of the year when Fabfilter release new products.
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how to use Pro MB on a bus or master video would be great!!!
Greatest Sports HighLights or Pro MB2..? :D
@@Zet237yt oh goodness, we just getting use to the pro q3 and the Pro MB!!! LOL technology is moving fast!
I know we all know this, but one of the best things I love about fab filter is that they don’t “follow the calendar” to do releases.
They just work their asses off, make great stuff, and release when it’s actually ready !
Oh Pro Tools....
why can’t you just be like that ?
Listen to your customers (keeping THEM as your priority); really having something that’s been upgraded on your “upgrades”; having customer care who actually care ?!?!?!?!
Humph 😤
lol...I was doing this for years before I knew it was a thing with a name and all that. 😆 I use REAPER too and always put my guitars under their own channel (or, bus...come to find out), the drums in their own, etc. Started doing it to keep things organized as much as anything else as, once they're all grouped, you can minimize them.
Hey Dan, I still do not understand how did you plan all this with audio going uninterrupted in the background and changing the DAW and projects. 😃
All your videos have this "feature", simply brilliant.
07:53 - I tend to use small amounts of tube sat and tape sat on every single channel, buss, as well as the master output. Depending on the musical style, it's possible to push even harder and get a really analog vibe.
I do something similar!
yesss. Just a tiny bit of sat and limiting on every channel including the master. The saturation really adds up and its better than just saturating tf out of just one element until its clips
Dan youre genius
Love these videos even though I don’t own any of these plug ins, I have had demos though. I know they’re quality and I really do appreciate that it takes a lot of work and resources to develop these programs but they’re just too expensive and I can’t quite justify shelling out for them. If they were to run the subscription service I, along with countless other enthusiasts, would jump on it in no time! 👍🏼
And there'd be countless others, like me, who will *never* buy subscription plans for software.
MagMusic I’ve read the arguments against but out of interest, what’s yours?
@@xplanet2112 I've been doing this a long time and I just prefer buying something one time and it's mine. Subscriptions are like when your Internet Service Provider charges you every month for the router they provide you. Over a period of years, you end up paying way more than it would cost to purchase your own router and at the end you *still* have to give the router back. It's a ripoff.
The subscription model ruined Cakewalk Software. I signed up the first year of that plan but got out and decided I would never do a subscription plan again. Charge what you charge and I will decide to buy it or not--period. I think FabFilter plugs are a little steep, also, so I don't have any. Same with Sonnox and many other publishers. Companies like IZotope and Magix are charging *way* too much for upgrades.
This Black Friday was not really good for consumers, IMO. Companies doing the same lame "50% off sales" they did all year, like no one would notice there was no better pricing. Our only option is not to pay when it is not to our advantage to do so, and I don't ever believe subscriptions are to our advantage. I believe in purchases and reasonably priced (and scheduled) upgrades.
MagMusic You make some good points there and the vast majority of plugins I own are one off purchase and I have been at this for decades too. I do subscribe to Slate because I feel it’s overall a good deal but any others, McDSP for example, I would simply could not justify a subscription to them.
Yes the plug in fire sale is all year round from some companies, Waves for a large example, disguise their sales in this promotion and that promotion but waiting them out for the right price is the way to go for me and to be honest there is little that tempts me unless it’s being given away.
I didn’t know about Calkwalk being ruined by the subscription modal but I have noticed you don’t see them around these days. I do like the idea of buying your own router and I will try that with my next provider so good shout, I have done the same with my mobile phone for years now. Peace man.
Another excellent Fabfilter Educational video dressed in promo video clothing, by the inimitable Dan W. On bus processing vs individual processing, this is a massive point that Dan makes about how there’s nothing to gain (sorry people!) by going to all the effort of individually addressing eg a drumkit’s elements, compared to them aggregated together ie on one bus. But having done at least three songs now Dan (puffs chest out with pride) I can observe it’s better in terms of NOTICING problem areas, to use the bus method.
In other words, some frequencies are not a problem individually, it’s only when they are all sounding together, you hear it. Pro Q of course, allows you to see ‘hot zones’ as well, which as I have come to realise, is often the first sign there is an issue, before my ears tell me. One example, one song was fine, except for a very boomey/resonant snare drum, which I didn’t even notice until the very last ‘test stereo’ I tried it on. Yet, ProQ had been warning me with a red zone for days at those exact frequencies. The only fine tuning (again, sorry people) I would add, or the exception to the process it as a bus, rule, is that once you do identify a problem area, it might be better to then address the actual frequency on an individual basis. In other words, bus process is the norm, but the exception is where you find an issue, it might be slightly more precise to backtrack to the element in the bus, the constituent part of the bus (for me the snare drum) and use an instance of ProQ to fix just one drum element for example, which might remove the need as in my case, to mess with ALL the drum elements in the combined bus signal?
It’s a moot point, I just felt Pro Q had enabled me to backtrack by using bus processing first, to then fix a problem, by inserting just one instance of Pro Q in the ‘problem’ element, earlier and then not have to in effect, alter frequencies of everything, notching out the entire bus signal. So, I bus-process as the norm, but my exception is when there is an issue, and I just use one extra instance of Pro Q on that solitary element’s individual signal, earlier in the sound ‘chain’. I acknowledge however, either way is better than leaving a boomey frequency littering your musical masterpiece, and I also acknowledge Dan W’s guidance has been terribly useful in getting me from a dunderhead three years ago, to an idiot now. It’s quite an improvement let me tell you!
This is very useful. I usually don't do top-down processing, but I think I'm going to review this, because it does seem to have its advantages. For one, it enables the "less-ir-more" axiom. Pro Q has become my go-to EQ/Comp plugin. I find it so versatile and capable of being very surgical without sounding unnatural. Obviously, you have to know what you're doing with it, but if you do, it's an amazing tool.
It's hard to watch other mixing videos once you've discovered Dan.
another installment of "boomer tells us how to process a track from the 1970s" my favorite!
I was the 600th upvote =D
If this is the beginner's guide i think that in the pro's guide we'll learn how to build a nuclear bomb with ff plugins
I would like to ask you something Dan, if you are reading these at all. It comes as a reaction to you doing a relatively steep low cut on the drums in the example presented. I remember watching your video on achieving loudness where I believe you showed something along the lines of a low cut making a signal seem louder, without actually increasing its loudness. My question is, what would be the purpose of that low cut and how does that affect the sound, technically? I've seen a lot of rap mixes be really heavy in the sub 20Hz region and I am trying to understand why that is desirable in such genres, whereas a low-cut to as much as 60Hz is desired in others. I am assuming that the perceived loudness you talked about is not the only reason, as hip hop does like to be loud.
its all about feeling the bass when its played in a club. Hell, EDM was louder than rap for a little bit but then those producers linked up with EDM producers and applied their mixing processes
i love how you have a track labelled "not drums"
This is my Netflix.
This guy is my new uncle
Can't find gain compensation on saturn 2 like Dan do on saturn in this video, why you have remove this?
Busses are also very important for commuting purposes😁
Underrated comment, but then I guess you have to understand the math behind the signal processing.
@@butsukete1806 😁😁😁
The last guitar track.. What's music is that??? .. It sounds like a Carlos Santana kind of thing.. Somebody knows the title plz
Please do bus processing for nerds now! 🙏🏻
During the section on compressing a drum subgrouping, the ratio was set to 1:1 so *no* compression was taking place.
What's the timestamp?
if you look at his learning about compression part 2 I think he said clear it should be at a lower setting like 2:1.
@@cb5110 Apologies, I'm still a bit confused as to what section in what video you're referring to 😅
@@AndreiSora actually was referring answer to
effsixteenblock50, about no compression on bus, in this video, but before this video, Dan has three other videos on learning about compression, which he mention how to use lower ratio setting on a bus.
@@cb5110 Aaaah, I see! Got it now!
awesome. This video needs that warning from violent videogames about "flashing images" but with "flashing sounds" cuz of the last example... :-)
I'd love anyone's input on not using send busses for character delays for the very reason that that the non linear elements will change. For example if I have a delay that is emulating an echoplex sending guitars and vocals to it means that during the vocals it will distort more due to increased levels. Ive started grouping my sends so I have vocal fx, guitar fx, general ambience and special fx and still use serial delay fx sometimes when I want a single instrument to have character without influence. This always seems to be overlooked in tutorials as if they are assuming everyone is using linear ambience and modulation fx.
the nonlinearities within the aux channels will also act as "glues" which one might desire in many instances
Halfway to Infected Mushroom...cool :)
how to you link the input and output knob in Satun like at 12:3
pro tools
why always example is on rock loop?
I think it's what Dan usually works on.
@@AndreiSora but most ppl doing many styles, I guess. ) and just wonder why every1 do the same style.. the same thing over and over .
@@user-ob9zo9cr4c True, but, at the same time, these mixing principles are somewhat universal and not genre-dependent. Dan's videos are more about mixing than producing per se.
Dan mfing Worrall
I didnt know you could drag and drop an fx send like that after using reaper for like a year lol
Hi.
Modulation (and automation) turns any linear system into a nonlinear system by definition. So the linearity you talk about on the filters with LFOs is not real even with clean filters
i think you kinda over-processed it a bit in the end. i would really appreciate this amount of fanciness in a neuro-dnb track, but your source sounded a lot like something from a rather normal rock genre, except for the drumcomputer
Anyone else think he sounds like Daniel Craig?
For beginners...lol
"not drums" lmao
"Modern processors can run multiple instances without breaking a sweat" lol -- turn on linear phase
Uhm. Beginner's level?...gulp.
The last three minutes of this video are almost painful to listen to. Not sure if it's my computer or connection, a corrupted file, or intentional. The most popular section of the video is even in the middle of the choppy audio. It sure *seems* to be intended. If so, why? I feel like I'm missing a joke or something.
Dan Worall tried hard in this one but still:
Squarepusher > Dan