Where Did The Northumbrians Come From?
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2024
- Where did the Northumbrian Anglo-Saxons come from? In this episode, I will go through three theories as to where this particular branch of the Anglo-Saxon peoples came from. Did they come straight from Northern Germany and Southern Denmark? Were they already here? Was it an internal migration of Germanic people in Britain? Tune in to find out!
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As a Northumbrian, really enjoyed watching. 😊
Fantastic!
Cool someone actually mentions how geography affects settlement and kingdoms. Cheers
It's a big factor, even the geography has massive impacts. Interestingly the North East of England seems to have connections to Northern Ireland even in the Bronze age, while Cumbria, which is closer, doesn't have as much evidence. It's really interesting to see how connections develop!
Great vid! I would guess some combination of all 3. But the 2nd sounds very interesting to me. We know how many Germanic troop Rome had. So just bringing families over and starting your own kingdom kinda makes sense to me.
I think in history it's always a mix of all of the hypothesise, but some theories have a bit more weight than others! Glad your enjoying them!
That was a really well put together and interesting video I proper enjoyed it ....thank you 👍
You are welcome! Very glad you enjoyed it!
I love this period of history. Thanks for sharing.
You are welcome! Looking forward to going through this period with everyone!
great summary! big ups 🙌
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Very good.We`ll never know for sure
Very true. But we can have a very informed guess!
I'm fascinated by the alternative theories! I've never heard of them before, but they certainly make a kind of sense given what I know of the status of germans in the rest of the roman empire, invited to settle and be a component of the military, can you point me to sources about the theories?
This came through a combination of all the reading that I've done, there's not one single paper or book I could point you to, but I'll think of some papers later I could point you too.
Finally got around to watching this! Great video. After you mentioned the second theory, I immediately thought that a combination of the two sounded very likely. The third theory being almost exactly that made it seem even more realistic. The first one is a bit too traditional and story like/mythological for my taste. I think a large scale migration isn't too unlikely but the archaeological finds that confirm a Germanic presence in Roman times, shows that the creation of the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms wasn't as rapid and radical as perhaps thought. Neither do I think that all Britons were killed or expelled. An assimilation is far more realistic in my opinion. I believe modern genetic research backs that up as well? Pretty sure English people are mostly Celtic and depending on the area 20 - 50% Germanic. The etymological proof of Lindisfarne is also very convincing. Really interesting video, thanks!
You are welcome and I'm glad you enjoyed it! Was great fun to put together!
Fascinating. I think it's probably a mix of all three theories. Maybe a few more we haven't thought of yet. It's difficult to know why people in the past did what they did. It is fun to speculate, though.
Yes, I think I would agree. I think all of them have a strong argument but all struggle for evidence. Glad you enjoyed it though.
That was absolutely fascinating. It once again proves that all eras in history are a lot more complex than school teaches us or popular culture teaches us. The idea that there were already communities of "ex-pats" established in Britain makes a lot of sense. I know the Romans liked to place their soldiers in unfamiliar environments a world away from their original place. I think it was that they would be so disorientated getting used to the strange place they wouldn't have time to revolt. That's my theory. Geographically it does make sense that people would come to Britain from north Germany and Scandinavia because in a world without passports etc,well I know you can sail a boat from Essex/Suffolk area to that top bit of Germany in a day if weather conditions are favourable. Why wouldn't you.
I know! That's why I love this period, so much was being created and the movements of people shaped our world today!
I agree about the germanic troops. I also found it interesting that on the map it showed Irish troops in north wales. That would explain why to this day it is the most "Celtic" and least "Anglicised" area
They were forced out of Wales by the Irish if I remember correctly!
@@AlexIlesUK so were these Irish troops in Wales stationed there by the Romans just as they stationed Frisians on Hadrian's wall?
As I understand they were invited in as well like the Anglo-Saxon's in the 5th century (if they were invited!) They then put up monuments like Ogham stones but they were driven out at a later point. It's a post Roman event. :)
Alex, what is the heresy you are referring to at 1:37? Thanks. I think this will be a good series. ❤️
It's Pelagianism! A interesting Heresy in the British isles. Hmm I'll have a think about how I could do a episode on that!!
@@AlexIlesUK Thanks!
In Norfolk ( I think), there is a village called Swaffham, i.e. the village of the Swabians/Suebi - a Germanic tribe detailed by Tacitus.
I'd need to rely on someone who really knows their placename studies, it's outside my knowledge.
@AlexIlesUK I read it somewhere a couple of years ago, as an indergaduate.
No less an authority than Google confirms it😀!
Thanks, could you send the link?
@@AlexIlesUK
Just Google Origin of place-name Swaffham.
Is it true Hengist did what the Romans never could ie conquer Kent?
Kent was a core part of Roman Britian, it was a part of the initial conquest. Where did you hear the Romans didn't conquer Kent?
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Thank you?
Angles and Jutes were moved by the Danes
Do you have a source for that theory so I can look at it? I have not heard that before.
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Nice!
@@AlexIlesUK thanks for the video
You are welcome
@@AlexIlesUK :)