5 Ways to Avoid Working at a BLACK COMPANY in Japan | Why People Can't Quit Before They "KAROSHI"
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- If you search for topics about finding jobs in Japan, you might have heard of the word ブラック企業 before. You might have even heard some anime characters talking about them too. It means “a black company,” but what does the color signify?
Actually, if you’re going to find a job in Japan, or even start your own business and work with other companies as your clients, you must know what kind of company they are to avoid having a terrible experience.
So today, as a man who has worked in 3 Japanese companies and is now running my own, I will explain the definition of what a ブラック企業 is, and why there are so many that exist. Also at the end of the video, I will explain the points to look out for if you’re going to find a job in Japan, to avoid working at these companies, so stay tuned till the end.
However, as I always say in these videos related to working or business in Japan, please keep in mind that the situations will of course be different if you are a Japanese or from a foreign country.
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22:19 How to avoid working at a "ブラック企業 Black company"
24:37 Today's conclusion
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It’s amazing that Japanese businesses use the overwhelming politeness of their society against their society.
I feel like thats a given when your culture revolves around being polite and having everyone fit in, but regardless these businesses take it way too far.
Truuuue, lmao. That’s so sad.
Im not surprised there are always slimy businesses out there
Disappointing but hardly surprising
Yep. Politeness and respect are virtues, but without limits, they can be detriments too.
Interesting side note. I noticed that in Japan “volunteer” means to work without pay. I was asked to “volunteer” to work on weekends one time. I was like, “um, no thanks.” My boss was like, “you have to, we all take turns volunteering”. I was like, “I don’t think that word means what you think it means.”
ah yes,
mandatory voluntary work
Damn
U described my school lmaoo
Did you have to volunteer?
I mean yeah that's what volunteer means universally man it's not a Japan thing.
The red flags for hiring are totally applicable where I live in Canada. Especially in certain jobs like hotel work and call centres, they’ll often advertise a “warm, family-like atmosphere” or something synonymous. Management comparing a workplace to family is _always toxic._ Families are built on selflessness and not looking for a reward. Employment is every person for themself. Always remember that you are doing a service for your employer and you are literally always worth more than they pay you, because that’s how they profit.
Same here!
I was working like a slave, but with lot of praise...disturbing.
I saw italian mob coming one day to "check" if everything was allright, it was the day before a csst visit😑 what a coincidence.
I laughed because i had the explanation about this terrible company and i left with a light heart.. and a new experience.
True! You just *know* if your workplace is family, by feeling
Amen to that! The whole "we're a family" at work is just to guilt you and gaslight you into doing things like overtime because you feel bad abandoning your colleagues, when in fact it is your right to refuse and go home.
True. As someone (don't remember who) said, if your workplace is a family, you're going to spend all holidays there.
I run from ANY company that says "we're a family" like no. 😭😭
This is why unions exist in the US and Western countries.
"People that ask for raises/over time are greedy with no thought to others."
Ah yes that's why I got all these signatures on a union card because I want my co-workers to earn a fair wage too.
Except unions barely exist in the US now because we live in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
Except when you have to pay a fee to be in a union and if you don't then you get harrassed for taking away "union jobs" and you get blacklisted from taking most jobs because you don't want to bend the knee to the union.
The unions in my country were all related to mafia alike types, did little for the workers and demanded a lot of money and political support to their candidates
@@Ashley-1917 there are unions everywhere. They’re totally unnecessary
@@guilhermebraga9773 Latin américa in a nutshell
I know a Japanese dude I used to work with at my old job, he told me that he got more done working a job in Australia than in Japan specifically because he worked less hours. We all need rest to recharge our batteries.
He used to work at a job like one of these. Dude was such a hard worker and he never looked at the clock so we'd have to tell him to go home at the end of the work day.
Yup. Sometimes working more hours is actually counter-productive. I've seen similar statistics over the years showing that other cultures that actually work less hours and take more vacations are as productive, if not even more productive, than cultures like Japan's where they work more hours and take less vacations (if any.)
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Humanity needs 5-hours work day. And socialism can give it.
@@Kirill_Ivanov. As many of your people were murdered by Socialists, including children, and you still shill for that evil ideology... Unbelievable.
@@Kirill_Ivanov. socialism can provide 5 hours of work per day, but also would provide less jobs and hunger. No thanks. Socialism sucks
Sounds like Japan is suffering from one of the major issues affecting Western nations.
High emphasis on white collar work, while downplaying the significance and profitability of blue collar work.
Schools need to advertise the importance of Blue collar work as well as the benefits it can provide. Unions that are associated with Blue Collar Jobs provides Fair Wages, Overtime, Mandatory rest Period, and Health Benefits that include insurance and 401Ks. The Best part of Blue Collar Work is if your qualified you are pretty much set for finding work at a faster rate than people jumping into White Collar Jobs. Black Companies like these Dont Exist with Blue Collar work because the Unions would Blacklist those companies and make sure they Adhere to their contracts or they loose any future employment from that Union.
Really! I'm in my mid-twenties and my best off friends are blue collar while I'm on my second and third degrees so I can get a well paying white-collar position
I highly doubt the blue collar sector is any better as far as work culture goes.
I make so much more money as a garbage truck driver than I ever did as an office clerk.
Majority of people like to sleep on blue collar work for some reason 🤦🏿♂️
Fun story: I've almost experienced death from overwork myself! Except it was in the US and I was working for a Call Center. I had a stroke and various seizures within the span of just a few months. At one point the company I was working for wrote me up for leaving work early, despite the fact I left in an ambulance. Needless to say I quit that job.
Jesus
I hope you're doing better now
Did you report this to your state's borough of labor? You should definitely have a case for some kind of compensation if your medical events were determined to be caused by overwork by a doctor, that would mean it's a work place injury.
@@shieldmaidenforchrist1310 that depends on a lot of things. What one considers overwork won't be for someone else. If the person was seeing health problems and continued working instead of addressing it to their boss or quitting then why should the job compensate them for not hacking it. I used to work a construction job, a lot of what I used to do and the hours would be considered overwork by a massive degree for anyone not used to physical labor. Imo i think it'd be really hard to say a call center overworked you. Underpaid you sure but overworked could be a stretch unless you worked 12 hour days.
r/antiwork
I worked at a large Japanese company in Asakusa for a short period, went under severe workplace abuse. Went home to america and have been in therapy for PTSD since. It dramatically changed my life. I wish somebody warned me where I was headed.
TBH, European and USA company have so much better working condition than east asian company. Never regret switching company here.
//Hope you get better bro
Oh, so I'm not alone managed to get PTSD from the former workplace. Not in Japan though, but in home country, but still.
Sorry for your experience, but somehow knowing I'm not alone made me a bit better.
Hope you'll overcome this as well.
HAHAHAHA
I got PTSD from my first job in my field (accounting) in my home country USA. I quit 11 months ago and am still dealing with the daily symptoms and its mental and physical effects.
Hope you’re all doing ok.
Suddenly a lot of the stuff that happens in Aggretsuko makes sense, especially the overtime and the older workers dumping their work on the younger employees
I’m glad I’m not the only one here who immediately thought of Aggretsuko!
Yeah, that whole "Japanese corporate grind" makes a lot more sense now, huh?
@fkujakedmyname everyone you disagree with is in a Nazi you would benefit from the story of The boy Who cried Wolf nobody will listen to you when the real Nazi like group comes
omg!!! I thought the same! 💕
It puts a scene I vaguely remember into better perspective. I always thought it was weird the way they struck a balance between "put in extra work to better your company and coworkers even if it disadvantages you" and "workers shouldn't be taken advantage of or abused by their bosses." Especially since (not perfect recollection, it's been a while since I watched) I remember the boss being like "Well abusing workers was fine when I was an employee, but times are changing and it's hard to know what to do different." I see now what they meant wasn't that the act of overworking employees was something that was seen as good, but that it got results and workers were less unhappy about being worked harder due to how much compensation they got. It probably came across better in the native Japanese, because it flew over my head since I didn't know about the context behind what he was saying.
It's really disturbing since these sorts of companies are arguably the root cause of Japan's declining birth rate. If they're not killing the younger generation from overwork, they're removing any chance for them to pursue a family by giving them long hours that allow no time for dating, and those who do end up having a kid are harassed for it.
I really do hope something is being done, cause adding all that up they are literally killing Japan's population.
It's true. Dating in Japan in my experience in my early 30's here is that is almost impossible, because most (female, but I assume also male) singles live with their parents and are basically slaves to their work to some degree. My current girlfriend has a really weird schedule (alternating mornings or evenings but not normal mid-day) and lives with her parents, but thankfully she is adult enough to visit me whenever she can. (I offered to visit her house whenever she wants me to, but she doesn't want me to; not enough room there anyway. Nonetheless, she's happy to come visit me each time.) She's a really rare person, though. Most are too embarrassed to tell their parents they won't be home for dinner.
@@asheralexandersmith I've heard a lot of couples in Japan break up/get divorced because of a lack of communication. Don't fall into that trap yourself.
@@KyrstOak already got divorced last year from a Japanese woman who had no time for me and when she did was constantly angry no matter what I did. It was hopeless from the beginning. So I’m divorced but I’ve never really been married lol. Triple whammy! My current gf is a million times better than my ex-“wife” ever was tho.
@@asheralexandersmith Good to hear your current girlfriend is better.
Of course. Also, in the case of couples, people are so tired from the insanely long work day that their libido is shot
The worst job experience I had in America was a boss telling me I'm fired if I take a sick day, and harassing me in the workplace. He was asking personal questions like relationships, interest, and just overall sexual harassment. In America however, it is easier to just say I quit and walk out the door (which I did). I am now working somewhere where I am treated much better.
I'm super glad you got out of there.
If a company tries to guilt trip me with being regarded as greedy and selfish, I just don't care, you can guilt me as much as you want but it won't work
I'm not gonna feel guilty if it's not something to be guilty about
I'd just flip it on them, "I'm no more greedy and selfish than you and this company are."
That train of thought is imbeded in there culture of course its alot easier for people outside of japan to speak freely
The culture hardwire them that way thats why they get exploited
"The nail that stocks up gets hammered"
Speak from your comfy protected Western country.
You will be singing a different tune when you realize you are different and how that looks like to the Japanese community. You will regret even trying.
@@LathropLdST Probably don't think they'd even visit Japan anytime soon, they sound like just a kid who doesn't know much about the world.
" You will work non stop until the task is complete."
" No I am an American. I work from 5pm to 12am."
" If you leave you will be fired."
" If I am fired I will get two years severance pay."
" What?! No way! "
" That is what my employment contract states."
To be fair you could probably get away with this. If you do some deal and have a copy of the contract lol. Reminds me of that one guy who change their end of the contract basically borderline black card status.
5am to 10pm?! 17 hrs?
@@cheshire_skatkat9093 Standard night time operating hour for Americans. 5pm to midnight.
@@Fire-Manz While living with my uncle over sea's I got a job in Japan as a sales men simply because of the face that I was an American. When they gave me the job they wanted me to sign the employment contract right on the spot. I made an excuse that I had to use the rest room and left. I saw a lawyer and after paying him a retainer fee. He completely recreated an entire employment contract and recreated the stationary they
used for the business. Basically I was being paid the American Minimum wage converted in yen. If I was fired, laid off, or forced to quit I would be give three months severance. It was a sweet gig.
This is what I thought.. If Japan has labor laws, couldn't you just get hired in one of these "black companies", get fired after not doing your overtime with out pay and then sue and cash out?
Then just rinse and repeat.
Really crazy is that these companies are not even more profitable than their more human competitors. All this harassment, the exploitation and the pressure are completely useless.
Despite our many cultural differences, jack asses don't change
slavery can not compete with well paid labor
@@ninjagaro. ancient slavery
@@ADeeSHUPA Slavery without extra steps
sauces for that
Considering the strict labor laws in Japan, it honestly sounds like a major problem with detection and holding these companies to account for their actions. Of course detection is a problem if your sole ability to do so is reliant on people complaining, in a society built around NOT complaining and such a bizarre concept as being "embarrassed" to complain is a thing! Do they not do undercover checks, like getting their own agents/workers to be hired by companies to find out for themselves what working conditions are actually like? And as for enforcement of the rules - punishments for companies should be severe. Like, potential forced bankruptcy levels of severe with massive eye-watering fines and restrictions.
I would guess that if you look at the reasons why these companies exist, it's probably incredibly difficult for the government to enforce these laws. It's a shame that they don't sufficiently prioritize them.
From a foreigner's perspective, it's almost impossible to find a full-time job in Japan if you are not Japanese. You end up working in a company as a "part-time" employee, which means you don't get a full-time contract, you get paid maybe half of what regular workers do, but you still have the same amount of work and responsibilities to fulfill. So it sucks, to be honest.
My mom had a problem with overwork some years ago, she came home and was always very tired and depressed, she couldn't even clean the house or wash the dishes, i had to do the cleaning all by myself, i was so sad about what was going on with her, and always said that she had to find another job quick. Some months passed and she started to work as a gym instructor, it was the job of her dreams, she always told me that she would love to be a trainer and she finally got the job she always loved and wanted...
I'm so happy for her
This is really cool, never seen a Japanese person worrying about Japanese workers. Even in media, it's rare to see an Aggretsuko or something like that
That does make me wonder, is Retsuko working at a Black Company?
@@gilessaint-loup2426 well Retsuko only doesn't go through explicity sexual and the mother harassments, the others are all there. What makes Aggretsuko super interesting to me is that Retsuko gets offered all the ways out but keeps staying at the company.
Honestly, this video has been enlightening. I finally understand why people like Tsubone exist in the office. She’s part of this unfireable class of workers who puts all of her work onto younger employees.
And now I understand why Anai was so insufferable. If that’s the kind of stories you hear about workplace harassment growing up, it’s not strange to be scared shitless and react inappropriately in defense.
Aggretsuko is a great show, but now I appreciate it even more.
@@brantreis thats Not that uncommon in Germany too.
A Lot of people do that Here. Being loyal even though we are treated Bad.
We don't Change Work often.
@@brantreis the only reason she doesnt go throigh that is because the rating would have to go up. Thats it.
Literally the reason why the Isekai concept is so popular in Japan, it's a way for an average Japanese worker to escape from the harsh reality, and half of the novels and anime that I've watched had the main character die from overwork.
It could be because I’m really high
But listening to you talk about Japanese culture and history is oddly soothing, and I feel like I’m retaining a lot because your pacing is damn near perfect.
In conclusion, this is great content
Hope you’re doing ok.
23:39 - This reminds me of all the job postings in English with the phrase "fun and fast-paced environment" (which generally really means "incomprehensibly frantic and insane").
Also the term "flexible schedule" as code for "it changes every three weeks and don't expect to have a life or normal sleep".
And the only people who are having fun are the bosses lol
@@haziqshah3188
Trust me. As a manager at the job I work. I wasn't having any fun, since I was just picking up the slack for the lazier managers for two years.
They got to have fun. I didn't.
Granted I eventually started kicking the back door open to yell at them when they were slacking off for 3 hours a day.
They eventually quit, and my job is a little less stressful now.
@@dubiousinformation1756 Respect 0 corporate managers.
*cough*英会話ThatStartsWithAnN*cough*
nowadays here in South Korea, if this happens, we quit and sue the company.
Hopefully more japanese citizens will stand up for themselves and do this
I'm glad South Korean workers have realized their value, I've heard some horror stories a few years back from overworked friends and acquaintances.
In the Philippines, the businessmen are in the government so they made sure to keep the salary insanely low and make sure the lawyers are insanely expensive so such things cannot happen. No such thing as a class lawsuit also.
@@theopinionatedcharles2795 hmmm you might not want to oversimplify it like that lol
south korea is worse than japan in this matter
Suddenly realizing why the little Japanese lady I worked for a while back in the midwest US was so adamant about keeping us to a strict schedule and not letting us work overtime unless absolutely necessary. I already know a few places here where if you even TRIED to get away with this stuff you'd be eaten alive by your own workers right in front of HR before the reps ate your soul and the CFO ripped out your wallet through your chest.
Many of these things are similar in America. Be aware of any company that describes itself as a family rather than a company is probably going to treat you like crap.
Boss: "Look around yourself! No one else is asking for a paid holiday, aren't you embarrassed?"
Me: Not in the slightest. I'll see you after the holiday.
*Places request on Bosses table*
Couldn't have said better myself
JJJ: You Serious?
the only way to deal with people with thick faces is to have the thickest face of them all
@@jaruakijal3128 lmao
“Paid holiday, eh? Do you really think you get to ask for that with these crappy results?”
Me: *Yes*.
Just so it is clear. "Sweatshop" in English also refers to any company that takes advantage of their workers in the name of profit. So the two terms may be closer in vernacular than you have been thinking.
By that definition, every employer is a sweatshop. Capitalism only works if workers are taken advantage of in order for companies to make a profit off of their labor. It's never a fair exchange -- you are always paid less than your labor is worth.
@@justinreynolds6318 True but MRP is not always greater than your salary, MRP being (Marginal revenue product) that you generate for the firm. Often at least where i'm from MRP is close to your Salary. Capitalism works because of financial incentives for innovation, without that incentive firms will not increase their efficiency resulting in higher prices and lower working wages for their employees. Capitalism must be balanced with Government intervention in terms of treatment of employees, consumer rights, product quality, consumer and worker safety, minimum wage and working hours. Capitalism in America for example is the reason for it being the biggest GDP in the world however they do have a bit more bias for firms then consumers. China for example is a state run economy or command economy, it has much more factors of production than America (Land, Labour, Capital and Entrepreneurship), China also has huge amounts of natural resources for exportation, such as rare metals, coal, oil, natural gas etc. However due to the lack of freedom on the control and decisions made for firms due to government intervention and the general lack of investment into innovation causes their GDP to be smaller. As well, their method of solving this by taking more and more loans to invest into construction and development isn't working and like many control economies is artificial growth rather than natural growth causing it to be unstable and inefficient. Firms in Scandinavia for example have learnt that general health, stress, long hours and the working culture significantly impacts productivity rather than exploiting their workers.
Incorrect. Please stop attempting to teach English when you don't even have a grasp on it.
@@justinreynolds6318 you agree to the pay. Stfu unskilled labor 🤣🤣
@@Nobody-cw3ri lol "sweatshop" is an idiom. Improper English. Why are you trying to correct a slang term? Who doesn't have a grasp on the language? Please go somewhere else?
I’ve remembered that a 20’s years old girl passed away because of death from overwork. She was working for NHK, which is a Japanese national broadcasting company.
I’ve seen a supervisor who was hired but not working in a interior design company. I felt so sad.
Aside from working culture in Japan, I’ve been surrounded by the environment that people say “Look around yourself! No one else is asking for something, aren’t you embarrassed?”
I think it’s be a cool show that finds these black companies and expose them.
1. So we can see these overworked employees and get a better understanding of their situation by site rather than stories
2. It may help the situation by amount of people who backlash at company.
(Although the second point not sure would happen, it would be nice if it did.)
Ooooo I like the way you think!
Like Undercover Boss but from an employee’s/labor advocate’s perspective instead. I like that!
In Germany you could actually easily fine the company/the work provider for something like this, since mental health in work places is very important here and not giving your workers their paycheck is pretty much illegal. I hope Japan can step forward and do the same for their workers.
And it still happens... (I'm from Germany). Und öfter als du denkst. Sag nur Hotel und Gastronomie. Wo bei alle anderen Industrie Bereiche gut nachziehen im Bereich des asozialen.
I mean, it sounds like if the Japanese government would actually enforce their labor laws they wouldn't have this problem...
@@neguesang My German is probably pretty crude sorry. In den wenigen Jahren, in denen ich in Deutschland gelebt habe, schien es ein sicherer Arbeitsplatz zu sein, basierend auf den Interaktionen der Mitarbeiter mit ihren Vorgesetzten. Please tell me thats readable...
Dear Germany, the rest of the world would also like a copy of that work place criteria. :D
@@petalroots1 even here in Germany there some companies that exploit the gullible and those without other options.
I have worked at 3 Japanese companies. My current company is amazing, but my previous company was a black kigyo. When I wanted to take a day off I had to explain the reason in an email to the head office. Even after doing that I was told that my email was too 'honest' and I needed to be more apologetic, mentioning how I was inconveniencing the customers. Then when my aunt was dying of cancer, I asked for my (lawfully entitled holiday) time off to go back to my country and see her one last time. My manager said that if it was my mother she would understand but as its not.. maybe if I hit my sales target I would be looked on more kindly by the head office. I have so many more stories. Just blows my mind still. I get really upset when I think about the horrible time I spent there.
That's the point i say bye assholes. Keep your tainted cash, hopefully leaving when it fucks with the company the most.
I'd work well in Japan I think, I have no shame.
Just asking, why didn't you just leave?
@@FranFerioli I did indeed leave when I found the right job. Working as a foreigner in Japan your job options are limited. But I’ll say that job pushed me to ask for better. I got a job at a really great company after that. I still work there three years later :)
I was sick and was in a bad condition, had to go to the hospital. the day BEFORE the hospital leave I had to work twice hard and over time to leave things in a condition to run some hours without me, AND had to return the same day I went to the hospital no matter my condition and work, AND to top it the bastards toll the insurance that they gave me the free day so that they get PAID for the inconvenience that I did to their production, when in truth I worked that day, great it is not?
@@bernhardvonbarret1729 Sieg Zeon!
In Japan, can you easily take your employer to court?
In the UK, we have the employment tribunal who deals with those matters, so it's easy for employees to claim unpaid wages, unfair dismissal etc.
I was a manager for Food 4 Less in Chicago and I regularly work 50 to 60 hours a week and I can honestly tell you it takes a toll on you physically and mentally
This is so frustrating, no one deserves to be worked to death or until their mental health degrades. I hope things get better for the workers.
*Laughs in post office*
Well, if a major problem is management leftover from the booming days, they'll age out soon enough. It's been almost 50 years since that boom ended, so there soon won't be any workers from those days left.
@@andrewpatton5114 boomers need to stop doing things they have been doing. It's not their future
@@avinabamandal3204 exactly. However they are still in charge and think its their future only.
Sadly not anytime soon unless someone from the Millennial generation finally shake things up in the Japanese corporate system.
I've had a couple of Japanese nationals here in the States tell me that there was no way in Hell they would ever go back to Japan, but they never told me why. This video opens up my eyes!
And America is often considered pretty bad with the job market. Yeesh. Really gives perspective.
@@crazydragy4233 or not, couple of guys above your commets are comparing this situation in Japan to Amazon warehouses. Imagine being so ignorant of others issues and saying in a non-joke manner that you have it the same.
I know amazon warehouses can be bad, but they are not all the same, and they totally not compare to the general Japan work culture.
I told my friend to not move to Japan because of this, their harsh work culture is no joke. Japan is nice for tourism but living there for a long time is quite a challenge
@@GuitarListen You really should do some searching. Companies like this exist all over the US. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't real.
Avoiding bad employment is something everyone needs to practice.
My ex-company did so many of the above. Especially, putting my grade under “management” so that they don’t have to pay overtime. Even the Human Resources department said that the company has the right (under law) to call upon me to work everyday, 12 hours a day. My country’s labour laws are weak and biased towards companies.
This was very well written and explained and I absolutely love that you have so many statistics that help you prove your point. It was really easy to understand too! Thank you so much for the info ☺️
I had a teaching aide at the school I taught in. She was awesome, certainly the most skilled person with English in the department, and a wonder with the kids. Yet she had been relegated to a part time assistant role because she wanted to get married. It was assumed that she would have children, so they wouldn't let her have a full time job anymore. Even though she told me that she and her husband were not planning to have kids.
The what? Feels bad man
Geez so basically she must throw away her personal life just to get a nice job to be able to sustain her personal life.
@@adriennenonami1709 are you serious bro?
A similar thing happens in the rest of the world including USA, but maybe not as openly . Many hiring managers are careful not to hire women of child bearing age.
@@adriennenonami1709 It's actually "her and her husband", since you're here correcting folk. Not "she and her husband ". Just because they may teach English doesn't mean they apply their trade on social media. You're kinda being rude.
What you guys know as a "Black Company" in Japan, in Mexico it's known as a "Standard Company"
So true! the company i work for is a logistics company, we have offices and warehouses in mexico and the US. I work in the US and i hear my mexican counterparts complaining that they work 6 days a week, little to no overtime if even available. and they work 7am-5pm daily. And i work 8-5pm mon-fri and get paid overtime when worked...
Dang this is the moment when I learned I have privilege just because I was born in the U.S. I have more opportunities show how unfair the world truly is.
@@OutcastYBJ Everything alright?
I appreciate you making these videos. With a family member living in Japan, I try to keep informed of working conditions and customs. Thank you again!
Goodness! This was so informative! Loved the chapters too!!! 10/10
Boss: "Look around you! No one else is asking for a paid holiday, aren't you embarrassed"
Me: "Aren't you embarassed you are violating the law and overworking your employees?"
You wouldnt dare to clap back lmao
@@ericktellez7632 If born and raised in JP ye. If a foreigner clapback incoming if you're the assertive type.
All organ to pay back the loss you have cause for one holiday.
-Your Capitalism Boss
So better not take that holiday
Short answer...No. Why would I be embarassed that other workers don't have the balls to ask for a raise?
Boss: aren't you embarrassed to get fired? Good luck paying rent this month with your nonexistent savings
My friend Koji, a very intelligent, athletic (soccer player) and all-around great guy, had his heart simply stop at the young age of 40 - death from over-work, in 2011. At the end, he wasn't even going home at night. He just slept a few hours in a "capsule hotel", if he slept at all.
This phenom is no joke and happens all the time.
Let's wish him a pleasant reincarnation in an isekai with a strong lack of mayonnaise and potato crisps.
My sincere condolences for your friend.
I stumbled upon this channel because of YT algorithm, I'm glad. This video was quite informative, interesting, engaging, and a great watch overall. Thank you for sharing bits of your working culture. 👍
I found this subject very interesting and baffling at the same time. Thank you for this informative video. If I ever plan on working in Japan I will keep the information from this video in mind. I also appreciate the time and effort you put into making this video. Have a good day.😁
Me: "Can I have my overtime pay?"
Boss: "You're a greedy person who does not care for the welfare of others!"
Me: "Can you smell that? It seems one of us reeks of hypocrisy, and I'm pretty sure it ain't me."
This is the essence of capitalism.
@@Kirill_Ivanov. naahh men its Just niponland being niponland
@@Kirill_Ivanov. not sure if your comrades would be happy that you are using capitalist technology and apps that the mother land can't make
@@yagami1134 No, in Asia in general, extreme conformity and unquestioning obedience to percieved authority figures is way too common. There have been several airplane crash investigations that have led to the conclusion that the plane crashed with hundreds of passengers dying, only because the second pilot chose not to point out to the senior pilot, the flight captain. That they're about to crash. Because that would "damage" the reputation of the senior/authority figure, even when the lives of everyone onboard the aircraft are at risk, the percieved authority's honor/reputation/ego is more important.
To me it seems more respetful if somebody points my mistakes out to me, because they percieve me as mature enough as to not throw a temper tantrum over somebody noticing _my own_ mistakes.
@@muhumads aww are you salty that he pointed out that Capitalism is a trash economic system and doesn't work? Employers get to hold your job and salary over your head and try to take advantage of you. Then the response is 'get a different job then' instead of 'make employers honest and fair'.
I can’t be the only American here that relates to when he talked about the older generation working long hours and getting paid a lot of money. My grandparents always comment on me complaining about work. “Oh you young people would never survive in our time. I worked 12 hour shifts everyday! You’re only working 10!” Or “Back then I walked into a store and got a job the same day!” Yea that’s good for you but back then you could buy a house, a car, and support a family on 1 job. Nowadays people need 2 just to pay rent. The only jobs that hire anywhere near that easily are ones nobody wants to do, pays the bare minimum, and are braindead tasks.
Also, there is no job security these days like it was back then.
@@shanchan8247 That too. I just started at Amazon and they can fire me for the smallest things at any given time with little to no notice.
@@Rieneger Amazon is full of crap. Thank goodness I don't work there
Live in NYC, minimum wage is $15 per hour, but rent alone is at least $1500.00 if you're lucky. Less than that you're either in rent control, in a studio apartment, or renting a room. If you can afford most often be sharing with roommate to pay the bills, most often those apartment are old, dirty, unkempt.
You do need a roommate to survive "living alone" in the big city.
One of the reason why most people are just fleeing the big city and prefer to commute an hour or 2 from home to work. It's just brutal.
Tell your grandparents that thanks to their generation good American jobs have been shipped overseas to places like China, India or even Mexico. Tell them that their generation allowed the importation of low wage immigrant workers and that made it more difficult for our generation to demand fair wages or raises. Tell them that thanks to their generation every single decent job has been regulated to hell and requires a diploma from an expensive school when it their time half of jobs didn’t have same standards. Tell them that thanks to them houses and rent have become difficult to purchase, even more so when being outbid by corporations getting into the housing market. Tell them our generation will have to suffer the economic impact of switching off fossil fuels because despite knowing about it they were too lazy and complacent to do anything.
Most importantly tell them our generation plans on cutting their pension in half to pay for damages to environment and economy and when they get pissed use the old bootstrap analogy and hand them a Walmart resume.
I really do appreciate these bite sized lessons and knowledgeable topics, thanks shogo!
I’m definitely praying for you all in this situation. This is a horrible thing to do to people!!! I’m glad that you are letting us know about this 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Amazing content. I can't believe you're apologizing for this! There're not a lot of youtube channels that talk about the actual problems in Japan. Most of them make it look like it's some kind of absolutely perfect place, which ends up being borderline misinformative. It's always good to know the in and outs of a place before making a big decision like going to work and live there, or even just to understand better that country that we love so much.
Yes. Too many people want to live in Japan without actually knowing what its like
Why was he apologizing for this?
@@Athai_ might due to japanese culture around causing an uproar, since that's usually looked down upon within japan
You can argue that the effort of the people is what makes Japan look beautiful. But ofc, after WW2 Japan had to work so hard to survive.
@@traveler8010 Yes, and that's a good example of how the best possible results are only achievable from the last efforts. From the "it's all or nothing", from the emergency.
In the United States this is called "I work for a startup that has promised me FTE status for a year but I'm still a 1099 and work 60 hour weeks"
Gosh I could lay around and listen to this man talk all day. So relaxing.
This huy knows much and I loved this video. Great job, mate!
this exists in the west too, but, almost exclusively in the hospitality industry. as a chef i would consistently be required to work 80-90 hours a week. (it took ten years but i finally quit the industry this year)
edit: healthcare, manufacturing, and low level legal and financial workers too (low level because the higher ups get paid very handsomely for their time, unlike the rest of the people listed)
Not exclusively. Law and Finance are the same way.
im sseing alot this year on forums of various workers in trades, hospitality to private ones deciding to quit and work/learn better and now various restaurants/hotels/such delivery comps are complaining why "Nobody want's to work/lazy" but had these managers/scummy employers who bait & switch in job descriptioons or pay as those same layed off workers just got to continue in online universities/change better jobs/unto the unions.
Congrats on getting out! I swear hospitality treats itself like the mafia, lol
same. I'm finishing college now. I really never want to set foot in a commercial kitchen again.
Yes. I work in food service slavery
I told my dad about the low salary in Japan and the amount of work time and he was so surprised. My parents were surprised when I told them we would be pretty wealthy in Japan.
Wait you just said your salary is low and then you said you were wealthy... So which one are you? Poor or wealthy? If your wealthy then your salary must be high
@@nawab256 I’m middle class in the U.S. but in Japan I would be considered pretty wealthy. My dads job doesn’t require him to work at the office so he can live out of the country, so if we got the same salary we’d be doing well.
@wowalinbie the hours they work are still going to add up to a certain number even if they aren’t productive, they will still get tired.
@@nawab256 stuff is cheaper there.
@@rczeien lol no it ain't
Fantastic video. Wish I would’ve seen this before I worked at one last year. Luckily I have moved on and am happier. I hope more people watch this. Especially the tips at the end to look out for
This happened to my girlfriend. She had worked for a company that demanded too much for 6 years. She's in the hospital right now, literally fighting for her life.
Sorry to know that
I hope she is well and recovering.
How’s she doing?
Saw this comment you made a year ago. I truly hope she's made a full recovery ❤️
@@stephanaeon We seperated, so I don't know exactly but she seems to be doing better now, thankfully. Thanks for asking
as an american, these tips are still very helpful to avoid working at shady companies! many companies here will try to pull similar things, i know plenty of friends who work part time jobs for minimum age, with long hours with little to no time off. It's definitely becoming more and more common, with the governments refusal to raise minimum wage meaning that people cant afford to leave these jobs that are taking advantage of them without risk of losing their ability to support themselves. There's not quite as much shame surrounding family and community, but our individualistic society means setting unrealistically high standards for yourself, and the shame of failing to meet those standards can turn people away from quitting bad jobs.
You say individuality and then define conformity in the exact same sentence. Staying at a lower paying repetitive job instead of advancing to a trade is due to failing to meet the consensus of conforming expectations. There are higher paying service industry careers. Raising the minimum wage does nothing but lower the standard of living whilst increasing the cost of household needs, lowering the the pay of skills careers by devaluation of currency and the amount received. Japan and the United States commonality is the exportation of careers, the loss of intellectual property and ideological education instead of practical.
@@blackpine4517 increasing the minimum wage to 15 an hour isn't going to increase living cost lol what 🤦♂️
@@llamapartyy There’s no such thing as magic. 🙄
@@blackpine4517 "Just learn to code 4head"
@@llamapartyy you don't know economics then. Supply and demand. If companies have to pay more to their employees unwillingly, they will then off load alot of employees to protect their bottom line. Those employees won't be able to find work because most companies won't be looking for more people to pay. Meanwhile, stores, seeing the potential profits, will raise their prices to match the new wage. So those people now unemployed will have a harder time, since their budget is based off the old wage, not the new one
With those laws on the books in Japan, a Western worker would be the ultimate nightmare of any "black" company. Especially Americans. We tend to be very litigious over here. We make a point of knowing our legal rights, and we will regularly throw it in the faces of our bosses. Around here, if a company breaks the law, they WILL be reported for it by their own workers. 100% guaranteed. The only reason companies get away with exploiting their workers in the US is that the labor laws are nowhere near as strict as you just described they are in Japan.
With tight regulations like that, just having a single western employee would mean the eyes of the government are about to get very focused in on that company. It is entirely possible though that these "black" companies might be aware of this though, which could mean they might genuinely treat foreign workers differently as you have said several times in this video.
From what I've heard its actually incredibly hard for foreigners to get jobs in Japan for this reason.
Maybe its only in certain kinds of jobs, but I've heard that at least across the retail industry, overtime pay is skirted constantly, and if you question it you'll just get fired. And if you're working in retail, odds are you won't be able to afford litigating against a massive corporation that can afford lobbyists, let alone whatever it would take to just outlast you in court.
is that why several amazon workers got killed just last week because bezos demand them to keep working during tornado?
@@sunshineskystar Again, western labor laws = not as strong as Japanese labor laws.
@@sunshineskystar
I don’t think Amazon demanded them to keep working but just stay in the building during the storm. I work in a warehouse with a similar natural disaster safety policy and think that’s more likely
I’ve planned to go to Japan and work there as some kind of game creator. Thank you for your helpful advice, it helps me a lot!✨
This is my first video from your channel, and I'm very pleased with your discussion. Thank you for sharing your gift. Subscribed, liked and shared!
Thank you for this interesting video. I work in middle management in a nursing home in Germany. That's why the topic is very interesting for me. I know it is not always easy to lead people. But a management style that regards the individual as a resource and relies on cooperation is always the safest way to achieve one's goals.
As a university student currently living in Japan and going to start doing 就活 (job hunting) next year, this video really helps a lot! Thank you Shogo!
Hello! Would you mind sharing your experiences getting to college in Japan since I plan on doing my major there soon
my rule nr.1 all work should be paid for and when you work overtime, you should be compensated for using your free time at work.
But then I live in Norway. I had a co-worker that worked to much overtime, so the company told him to take free the next day. If a worker work to much in Norway, the company can be fined and in worst case, closed down.
Subscribed. Let me just say that I think you speak such AMAZING English! It’s really clear spoken and distinguished.
People want to joke that this is just a "normal job" in America but it's not even close. America is quite strict when it comes to labor, anyone who works long hours are generally compensated by mandatory time and a half pay.
Probably the only one that applies here is the low holidays, but you are usually compensated for that as well, and it is rarely forced overtime, but voluntary for the worker.
are salary workers compensate for overtime when their contract says they are not paid by the hour?
@@ErrorGameManiac it depends, but more often than not, yes. My position is salaried but if I stayed late or came in on the weekend I would be paid the hourly equivalent at double rate for that time.
@@ErrorGameManiac in some cases salaried workers arent allowed to work overtime, so some people in certain areas will choose to not accept promotions so they can keep getting OT hours and pay.
Not in Texas* Even if you're in a Union, you're overtime is "banked" to comp time...
Yeah, in my job salary just means you're the one who has to work all the overtime so that they don't have to pay anyone extra 🙃
Well, there might be a simple solution to this problem:
Proper rule enforcement by the Government
Goverment intervention isn't really the best solution either.
Good luck with that. Getting any government to enforce regulation with already struggling budgets. Not to mention, Japan's government is especially stuck paying for the increasing cost of an aging population and also, is culturally the least confrontational and averse to contradicting established rules.
it's not so easy, since such companies have always the best lawyers to defend their interests and they know of all the loop holes in the law to have their way around.
Government solutions a l w a y s cause more problems than they intend to fix.
Governments are slow to act and at best have a poor track record of adapting to changing circumstances. A more effective solution would be to have a company that fosters a much better employee experience than black companies. When you have a business that treats its employees and customers well and better than its competition they'll thrive and cause its competition to decline.
Guess it's a major cultural difference, but if any boss of mine ever tried to demand a justification for me taking time off that I'm entiteled to, I'd slap a bitch.
Lol ‘cultural difference’.
"Because you're legally obligated to give me the time off that's why"
Abuse is often ingrained into our society, but it's not a reason to not change.
I mean, we have a calendar that shows who requests off when (but not why, that's no one's business) so they might deny your request if there is no way to spare the help (I work in a nursing home kitchen so if we don't have enough workers very vulnerable people suffer), otherwise they bend over backwards to accommodate. I'm on vacation now in fact, for the first time in years because this is the first job I had in a long time that offers good pay, benefits and paid vacations - that also let's you take the time off.
Only downside is you have to take it or you lose it, and you can't cash it out.
You'll get sued. :/
These videos have been so educational. Thank you very much! 😁♥️
I love how you structure your videos Shogo! It seems to me that black companies are a lot more common than I had imagined
Hearing about this breaks my heart. It's fine to be a good employee and to be committed to your job, but there's more to life then your bosses bottom line. Study after study has shown that employees who are healthy and happy do much better work then ones that are suffering at their job, anyway, so it's not even helping the company.
Reminds me why our (french) retirement system is so important for the society.
Thank you for your, as always, great work !
This man seriously needs 1M subs. I love his videos so much.
Interesting how you described the generation that grew up in the period of rapid economic growth and how they use that mentality to run the younger generation workers in the companies. Kind of reminds me of the disconnect between baby boomers and millennials in the US.
The disconnect between the boomers and pretty much anyone else really.
That happens everywhere in the world
Warm atmosphere kinda sounds like "We are like a family here!" If there are more than 5 people working there, that typically means that you are expected to work harder just because.
Oh my goodness SHOJO!!!! I can't believe it Isn't just in Japan!!!!♥️
You just... All of those points made me remember when i worked for a company literally like that!!!
It was awful...i felt my power and life draining away in my company....
I was made to feel so bad....
Everything almost besides the pregnancy point happened to so many people....
Thank you for posting this♥️
Just stumbled across your videos, very informative! And you seem like such a genuine person. Keep killing it, king :)
This sounds like adjunct teaching. I had a colleague who worked so much that she literally fell into a coma, even though she was only paid for doing between 15-20 hours of work per week. (She woke up, and is back at the same job, with no improvement to her situation.)
Oof :(
Is there any way he/she can get out? I'm assuming it's out of financial desperation, because I don't know why else anyone would go back to there
Dayum!
Oh we got these in the US, we call them an Amazon.
Yes, in very few circles they use the company name as slang for a bad workplace.
Have you ever worked for Amazon?
Yhea or Walmart. Or like most Big bissnisses.
I work for a sister company for Blizzard and I make Less than minimum wage for working 86 hours a week
@@JesusChrist-sm4bm so you're salary? So what, you're making 60k a year?
@@CannabisDreams I'm not Shure. But I'm makeing 5 Dollars and hour. With about an extra 2-5.68 for every 3D model I finsh
@@CannabisDreams just did the math My Back pay is 22k but it's close to around 30K-40k a year depending on how sick I get
Very informative, thank you for sharing.
Love this content on the side of Japan we don't often see
"nobody else is asking for a paid day off aren't you embarrassed?"
"not really but I feel like assaulting you"
I would be feeling more like battery.
"Today you will pay me a consulting fee of 250,000 yen. Every first of the month you will also pay me a 250,000 yen consulting fee. Or I will blind members of your family".
Here’s my question: why doesn’t the Japanese government enforce their laws? It would be very easy to prove these abuses, so why doesn’t your government do its job?
That would depend on workers reporting abuses. And I'd imagine that's not common.
@@keithklassen5320 Not true, all of the data he provided are conducted by the government.
So basically they hear and see the problem but choose to ignore and probably use the data gathered in political debates only
Because there is little political pressure for them to enforce the laws.
Government officials can also be paid to not do anything about it
Remember that bit about the cultural "Don't shake the boat"?
Thank you for uploading this video
I just found your channel. It is both delightful and informative. Now I'm going to be a little superficial here, but wanted you to know you have the most amazing complexion. : )
It seems to me that the internet would be an ideal place to expose black companies. It can be done by employees anonymously, and can be accessed easily by anyone.
Is this happening?
I want to know about this as well. Is this happening?
It probably happens but rarely
There is several websites where you can find most companies profiles with comments of ex-employees, also have a notation system about payment/leaves/working hours etc. You have to create an account to access those complete datas, but even without an account you can see most of the notes and 2 to 3 comments so it's enough to know if it's black or not. However you don't always have datas for all companies, like the smaller ones.
Honestly, this video has great advice for beginners in the job market in general. I live in Texas and have worked a few jobs and have also had not so great experiences when I've gone into a job without doing my due diligence, if I had known the tips given in this video beforehand i might have avoided some bad experiences.
This was very informative. Thank you for sharing this my friend. Great video.
You’re very cute, by the way. :)
Great video. I’m a subscriber now, for all of the important issues you’ve listed here. It sets in sharp relief, the importance of work life balance, and employee rights. Well done.
Arigato gozaimasu!
I loved this video! As an American who visited/worked in Kyoto as an undergraduate student, this was very interesting to learn about. Would love a video about working for academia or the government in Japan.
There's a lot of companies in the US that do all of these. Including the not paying overtime thing if you're a saliaried employee.
The unions and laws are better. But the hours he's throwing down don't shock me. 10:30am-11pm is a 12 hour shift. Thats half the blue collar work force in America right there. Most hours I've worked was 102 hours in a week. 12-16 hour shifts, swing shifts, on 6-7 hour days is what I'm used to. I have no life, but the money is amazing and benefits are great. Gotta do what you gotta do to get by.
@@romanninja777 what’s the point of having money if you have no life to use it
@@LilLeanCuisine he could take an early retiremet
@@friedrice9511 If he doesn't keel over from a stress-induced heart attack or ruin all of his joints and his back by the time he's fifty, he might be able to do that. I know several people who are on permanent disability from wrecking their bodies from overwork.
The US certainly has it's own problems in this regard, but Japan has it a lot worse than we do.
Excellent points, thank you!
As an American, this is actually helpful. I have been born and raised in a city so all this is very true, especially #1 at 22:19 because of high turn over rates. High firing/quitting and hiring due to uncaring conditions. Very helpful tips to generally Company Scouting for the Company you want to work for for Life.
Thank you 🙏🏾 for giving me a permanent resident an actual deeper incite and understanding of how Japanese companies function.
The prospects of me finding gainful employment after watching your content doesn’t leave entrepreneurs much wiggle room to manoeuvre especially for foreign investors.
Yamaguchi-San. Keep making videos on Japan's social problems. It shows that you care about Japan, and you advocate for progress & change. Don't allow anyone else to tell you differently!!!
I really appreciate what I learned today about Japan's culture amd history thank you.
A lot of the tips of "how to avoid black companies" actually apply to most other jobs as well, if i used those tips in Australia i definitely could have avoided some dodgy jobs that were a waste of time and effort.
Personally ive always wanted to live in japan. I think its perfect for me. but the work culture has always scared me. this video will come in handy in the future i can tell.
Tell me about it. But I think with the new generation coming in and older generation fading away, things might change for the better
Depends on your circumstances and your investment plans, I suppose. Currently, I've done enough to live comfortably in other countries in Southeast Asia, but I'd have to do more to live comfortably in Japan.
I doubt it’s perfect for you. Many japanese people are a bit xenophobic. Dating could be miserable. The reasons go on
I get the distinct impression that it would only be nice for a while and mostly if you had enough money to not have a job while you were there.
Shogo, you are such a great young man for covering such sensitive topic that includes harassment. Hard work should be acknowledged and rewarded, and not punished for it. A friend of a friend is middle eastern married to a Japanese man, and converted to his faith and learned the language. She was harassed by her boss and couldn't prove it, and ended up starting her own business. Others might not be as lucky...
Your writing for your videos is great.
I love your video :D and very helpful and I heard many American jobs just like this