Thank you very much from everyone at Cult Never Dies for taking the time to make such a long, detailed and thoughtful video on our newest and biggest tome! One note: The book we sent you (and about 20 other reviewers) was a prerelease review copy and wasn't printed and bound by the same company that made the main run of books (both the US and European editions were printed in the UK at the same printer). We would be very happy to send you a copy of the final product!
I rode the original version as ebook. I will order this one too. By the way, I think Clandestine Blaze was mentioned in a mini book "prelude to the cult" but yeah, I agree with you that I would have liked to see more finnish bands mentioned. Fortunately "Pirunkehto" scrach that itch just nicely. Good stuff as usual Jerry!
It is mostly interviews and that trumps over all the loose info you get all over the web. For those whining about the lack of Finnish bands. There’s a Finnish book titled The Devil’s Cradel by Tero Ikäheimonen which focuses solely on the history of Finnish Black Metal.
That's the big problem with these A4 tomes, because the book-binding is good but the glueing sucks - it happened to me with ''Only Death is Real'', herr Fischer's book. They haven't come up with a decisive solution for hardbacks.
Thanks for giving metalsucks the boot, can't stand those hijacking posers. I'd argue the japanese punk scene would have some impact on western black metal, or it's just my wish, since they definitely shared the rawness & diy ethos.
I definitely think the biggest hole of this book is that it only has 2 Finnish bands and there is nothing about Australian black metal which upset some Australian friends of mine. It's overall a good overview but it's definitely missing quite a bit. The American version I got is a bigger size printing around 700 pages so I guess if everything added would probably be much longer. I do know that the later Cult Never Dies Books has interviews with some Finnish bands etc. My favorite chapter where I learned new things was the Black Legions chapter which was killer. I think overall it's the best one volume book on the history of black metal
Commented on this below, but this is a book series. Evolution is the first (and largest) book in a series which currently has 5 titles. It takes a lot of time to make books as large and detailed as these. Some patience is needed to get to all the bands worthy of attention.
I have early,the older version evolution of the cult.and into the abyss ,and prelude of the cult,by dayal petterson.great books.maybe i order that new edition book too!!i mus say,esrly version of that book,evolution of the cult are massive too.ower. 400 bages,i have same thin with that book.i have to try keep it good ,undamaged, but still my book is littlebit damaged....
Nothing (not a line) about Inquisition (!), Blut Aus Nord (!), Drudkh, Destroyer 666, Sadistik Exekution, Darkspace, Leviathan, Craft to name a few... These are not peripheral bands. Disappointing given their influence on the genre. The first edition of the book already left Immortal behind. I was expecting way more from that final edition. The author should have done that book in multiple parts because he left some major bands and their history behind.
The book *is* in multiple parts, Evolution is the first (and largest) book in a series which currently has 5 titles. The bands you mentioned are actually all mentioned, albeit briefly, but then it takes a lot of time to make books as large and detailed as these. Some patience is needed to get to all the bands worthy of attention.
These bands you mention, aside from Immortal, what have they meant for the EVOLUTION of the cult (of black metal)? Great bands, many of them, but I still don't understand their importance in the evolution...
@@roykristensen635 Fair point: then 10% of the book has pages dedicated to bands that are not that historically important (Manes, Fen, Heilhem and also legions noires - who listens to legions noires seriously?) in comparison to say Drudkh, Dark Funeral, Blut Aus Nord or Inquisition
@Thus-Spoke-Zarathustra That’s a weird take since I think LLN is very important historically. It has affected, among others, very much Finnish black metal (Bands like Satanic Warmaster among others). Blut Aus Nord has less impact from my POV. But yes, I found surprising that Dark Funeral was not here. Fen and ther UK bands were to showcase that UK had BM since CoF and HE, even if not that big an impact.
Thumbnail cracked me up 😅 Great work, might give it a read.
It took me a few seconds to see what was going on on that thumbnail haha. Good stuff.
Thanks!
Great Rewiev!! This is why i keep coming back!! Cheers.
Thank you!
Thank you very much from everyone at Cult Never Dies for taking the time to make such a long, detailed and thoughtful video on our newest and biggest tome!
One note: The book we sent you (and about 20 other reviewers) was a prerelease review copy and wasn't printed and bound by the same company that made the main run of books (both the US and European editions were printed in the UK at the same printer). We would be very happy to send you a copy of the final product!
My pleasure. No need to re-send this one. I’d rather read another one and reviewed that too, if it makes sense.
It took 4 months for this book to be in my hands. It looks nice and yes I look forward to read it. Love it😅
I rode the original version as ebook. I will order this one too. By the way, I think Clandestine Blaze was mentioned in a mini book "prelude to the cult" but yeah, I agree with you that I would have liked to see more finnish bands mentioned. Fortunately "Pirunkehto" scrach that itch just nicely. Good stuff as usual Jerry!
I mean I will order the physical copy. And others books from Patterson are also worth reading!
Thanks!
This is correct, CB appear in the companion book.
It is mostly interviews and that trumps over all the loose info you get all over the web.
For those whining about the lack of Finnish bands. There’s a Finnish book titled The Devil’s Cradel by Tero Ikäheimonen which focuses solely on the history of Finnish Black Metal.
I have reviewed The Devil's Cradle, too.
@@RautaMetal Cool, I’ll check it out. I missed the interview where Watain’s frontman gets offended (?).
Thanks for letting me know about The Devil's Cradle! Relatively new to collecting/reading Black Metal books and hadn't yet heard of that one.
That's the big problem with these A4 tomes, because the book-binding is good but the glueing sucks - it happened to me with ''Only Death is Real'', herr Fischer's book. They haven't come up with a decisive solution for hardbacks.
Damn.
The finished books are bound and sewn, unlike this review copy, so fear not!
this thumbnail killed me 🤣🤣🤣
❤❤!
Lmao Rauta hanneman looks like a Scooby Doo villain
Thanks for giving metalsucks the boot, can't stand those hijacking posers. I'd argue the japanese punk scene would have some impact on western black metal, or it's just my wish, since they definitely shared the rawness & diy ethos.
Did you see varg has a new book about black metal called "to hell and back"? I ordered one on amazon. Its pretty cheap.
I've already got the 2nd part too. Looking forward to more.
@@svart_kors I didn't know there was multiple parts.
Noticed!
Nice t~shirt
Ty
so no ragnarok or inquisition then
I definitely think the biggest hole of this book is that it only has 2 Finnish bands and there is nothing about Australian black metal which upset some Australian friends of mine. It's overall a good overview but it's definitely missing quite a bit. The American version I got is a bigger size printing around 700 pages so I guess if everything added would probably be much longer. I do know that the later Cult Never Dies Books has interviews with some Finnish bands etc. My favorite chapter where I learned new things was the Black Legions chapter which was killer. I think overall it's the best one volume book on the history of black metal
A very good about Oz bm not being there.
Commented on this below, but this is a book series. Evolution is the first (and largest) book in a series which currently has 5 titles. It takes a lot of time to make books as large and detailed as these. Some patience is needed to get to all the bands worthy of attention.
I have early,the older version evolution of the cult.and into the abyss ,and prelude of the cult,by dayal petterson.great books.maybe i order that new edition book too!!i mus say,esrly version of that book,evolution of the cult are massive too.ower. 400 bages,i have same thin with that book.i have to try keep it good ,undamaged, but still my book is littlebit damaged....
Nice
Who's the person behind your thumbnail art, is that you? 😅
My graphics wizard ChrisC!
Nothing (not a line) about Inquisition (!), Blut Aus Nord (!), Drudkh, Destroyer 666, Sadistik Exekution, Darkspace, Leviathan, Craft to name a few... These are not peripheral bands. Disappointing given their influence on the genre. The first edition of the book already left Immortal behind. I was expecting way more from that final edition. The author should have done that book in multiple parts because he left some major bands and their history behind.
I understand what you mean, but I also understand can't have all the bands in one book.
The book *is* in multiple parts, Evolution is the first (and largest) book in a series which currently has 5 titles. The bands you mentioned are actually all mentioned, albeit briefly, but then it takes a lot of time to make books as large and detailed as these. Some patience is needed to get to all the bands worthy of attention.
These bands you mention, aside from Immortal, what have they meant for the EVOLUTION of the cult (of black metal)? Great bands, many of them, but I still don't understand their importance in the evolution...
@@roykristensen635 Fair point: then 10% of the book has pages dedicated to bands that are not that historically important (Manes, Fen, Heilhem and also legions noires - who listens to legions noires seriously?) in comparison to say Drudkh, Dark Funeral, Blut Aus Nord or Inquisition
@Thus-Spoke-Zarathustra That’s a weird take since I think LLN is very important historically. It has affected, among others, very much Finnish black metal (Bands like Satanic Warmaster among others). Blut Aus Nord has less impact from my POV. But yes, I found surprising that Dark Funeral was not here. Fen and ther UK bands were to showcase that UK had BM since CoF and HE, even if not that big an impact.