It is still very impressive what they managed to do in just one year, remembering the fact that they also worked on the PC port of GTA 3 at the same time. It’s insane.
They just ran everything through an AI upscaler. That's why it was so fast, and broken. Unreal Engine allows for easily porting games. They should have released 1 game per month, then it wouldn't have been as rushed.
People will make excuses saying games are too hard to make now but it's the opposite. They didn't have a world of premade engines, tools, and standard hardware back then. Devs just don't know how to make games anymore.
You can really tell the game was slapped together in just one year when you get to the 2nd half of the story and the missions start having more basic cutscenes and the balancing is all over the place.
@@NazarenoGerez Yeah, there was also some strange sentence splicing present. I don't remember which mission this cutscene belongs to, but in one of them the character speaking literally skips the whole middle of a word, making it illegible.
I'm not sure if this is what you're referring to, but later editions of the game got edited to remove any mentions of the Cuban and Haitan gangs, specifically, out of racist fears. That could be the case. @fenn_fren
@@fenn_fren also the map design, if You are on Little Haiti And Little Havanna You Will see how simple are the buildings in these zones, they are literally simple cubes with textures on each side.
This game was still a massive upgrade. The only bad thing is the inability to swim. Treating water like it's lava is ridiculously unnecessary stress. The Easter eggs are top-notch. One is literally an egg that's under "construction" in 1984, and the atmosphere gives strong Backrooms vibes.
Yeah swimming is what hurt me most considering most of the map is water unlike GTA 3. At least Vice City Stories fixed that by making Vic Vance swimmable
That Easter egg was in vice city stories, not vice city. In vice city, it’s just an egg with “happy Easter” written on it, in vice city stories, it’s under construction because the game takes place a few years before vice city.
@@LlixX0 I just meant that both games have great Easter eggs, and I'm excited to see GTA 6. In the teaser for Agents of Sabotage, there's a bookend or something that looks like the little Tiki statues from Vice City! That could be teasing trailer 2, or they're just messing with us.
I don't agree that it's leaps and bounds better than gta 3 , characters are a lot more annoying and crude that lean even more into stereotypes and it has that pointless grandeur for example in the mission " Demolition man " why does tommy have to use an RC helicopter to deploy the bombs at the construction site ? Why can't he do it in person ? And the supposed "explosion" didn't do anything more than break the windows even though the building was supposed to be brought down completely.... This should have been one of those secret missions and then it would make more sense. Of course it's subjective , a lot of people say this game is their favourite
@@deorodant_oh-one6875People definitely like to over exaggerate how much of a leap VC had over 3. Which it honestly didn't. The gunplay, despite being an integral part of the game for example is still absolutely atrocious and remained completely unchanged. The system 3 had felt pretty janky even for its time might I add. The map design is an interesting topic. The main island is definitely very fun, unique and intricate. But the second island is quite frankly just dogshit with barely anything. GTA3's islands were rather "same-y" aside from the third island, but quality wise was at least consistent. The main city of GTAVC is laughably bad compared to GTA3's second island, not even a competition.
Ehh id argue that, GTA 3 was better in a lot of aspect, but GTA Vice City does improve a lot of thing from GTA 3, and dont get me wrong, I prefer vice city over GTA 3
The 3rd island always felt rushed to me. Especially downtown where there are just areas of nothing, buildings that make no sense and a random beach behind a wall of buildings. Vice city stories did add new stuff to the map but you really see how sandwiched in they were after GTA 3 and before San Andreas to just finish the game and release it. Still one of the greatest GTAs tho.
I always thought that Vice City didn't have enough development time. Just look at the way Tommy runs and the fact that he doesn't die when he falls from buildings.
No one cares. It's not like you yourself will every make anything worth anyone's time. Just keep complaining about small stuff in other people's work, and see how far it gets you in life. If you have no idea how game development works, then you have no right to say anything.
@@nathanieloakleaves5789And you will? You seriously sound like manchild, immediately going apeshit when anyone gives the mildest of criticisms to a game. No one will remember your name in a 100 years.
@@nathanieloakleaves5789 Excuse me? What kind of nonsense are you talking about? I just mentioned that some mechanics of a game from 22 years ago weren't very well polished and you're all bitten by my comment
@@nathanieloakleaves5789 dude calm down. He didnt say the game was bad just that some parts of it still show that it was rushed. The game still is a good game.
The thing that always ticked me off was Lance. You can do a mission perfectly and he will screw it up. Especially getting in the car. I remember "donut land" was a nightmare. One time I'm in the car and he was at the door before me, I assume he was in. So I haul ass with every video game cop in history chasing me and go. Then I see a warning to go back and get lance! I managed to go back to him by a miracle and he's just standing in the middle of the road! Doesn't even move towards my car and I even stopped with cop hell around me and he STILL didn't move! And he gets run over and died immediately🤦 and of course mission failed. And the mission saving him from the junk yard was tough too. I get him from the tied chair and run to my car. I look he's following. Then all of a sudden I see a warning telling me I left lance behind and failed. WHAT??😡😲 he was right behind me! I was happy to take him out in the last mission lol revenge
I grew up playing Vice City for hours and hours but ultimately Gta 3 to me was always interesting of the two. Gta 3 has unqiue mechanics like destroying steel fence, using the magnetic crane at the dumpsite and it's pedestrians can be exploded if hit with rocket launchers.
I know this bug thanks to watching Joshimuz. It also exists in San Andreas. When he does his 69/70 stunt jumps he has to be careful at the car park not to get his bike despawned at one point.
The second island has a lot of issues weird textures that look to belong in an early PS1 title like that fake parking lot building in Little Haiti or that massive building in downtown that expands into the grass behind the moist palms hotel, also the single exit out of the airport was weird too..
0:36 for some reason, i got a small bout of nostalgia seeing that, small because i just woke up and i’m tired. Reminds me of the good days playing it as a kid
i found a blue hell glitch with that night club. u go in and dont walk anywhere after it loads u inside then look right with the right analog stick to do a 180 then you can just walk around the city unloaded and vice versa with leaving the club where you can walk around in the club with nothing loaded
It’s because Rockstar probably wanted to quickly capitalize on GTA 3’s success. They added motorcycles and a couple other cool things but still obviously missed on small details. The games were released less than a year apart.
i wonder how different would vice city look if took 2 years to develop like gta san andreas, and how diferent would san andreas look if vice city was launched in 2003 and san andreas in 2005 or 2006 so that means that liberty city stories and vice stories would took as long, or maybe that would mean that instead of gta4 we would have gta san andreas in 2008?, thats a bizarre universe thought to think about it
yeah, i mean it was planned to only be an expansion pack for GTA 3, like London '61 and 69' with GTA 1. The fact that Vice city still managed to be superior than GTA 3 in almost every way possible and becoming one of the most iconic video games of all times is very impressive
One thing that bogs the game down is how before the final mission the game stops showing you where the main missions are and it gives you NO indication of what you are supposed to do to progress. So you have to go to the Internet to figure out how to even progress which is already a sign of terrible game design but it gets even worse when you find out how you progress, you have to purchase 6 assets and do their missions to make them profitable this is terrible because being forced to do side activities to progress in the main story is not fun at all. Add to that that some of these missions are just impossible to find out without a walkthrough. For example in the Pole Position asset you have to sit for multiple minutes in front of a dancing lady to make the asset profitable, how was i supposed to know that? Overall the assets being mandatory and not well explained at all dimished the enjoyment of the game for me.
The assets being mandatory is a bit much. But it's not hard to figure out how and what to do. You're meant to explore and see what's what. The game slows down and then you think about what else to do, then you go have a look at the assets and just do stuff until the last mission opens up. You are meant to be taking over the city, and the assets are a part of that. I personally could do without the empire building, I generally don't like it in most games. But I don't think in Vice City it's that cryptic at all. You can find the Pole Position thing by seeing an open building and going in there, then wondering if it functions at all, which it does a little bit. But yes, the time it takes you need to be in there, is boring as Hell.
I've seen mods for SA that make it look better while preserving the classic style and I've also seen mods where they make it more realistic and both have looked better than what rockstar paid some guy on fiverr to do.
This is an interesting one, apear and disapering vehicle, in GTA, for me in general. I am glad you foud that in GTA Vice City, with those vehicles . I played for a short period of time Vice City. I don"t like how easy disapair the Limo from Mision Salvadore caled a meeting outside misions, especialy in some places were I want to go, and can be obtain in that mision, even in garage/safehouse when I will plan to store the Hummer/Patriot in Gta 3 Real Life, the limo being BMW 760 Li V 12. For me, this is something that I realy like, some vehicles remain, others vehicles disapair shortly, very glad you bring this up.
Downtown is a horrible part of the map. It's like 4 roads and no monorail. I know it was a quickly put together expansion for GTA 3 that became a game in it's own right but that is the reason it's so hastily put together....GTA 3 itself was kinda shoddily made. I do enjoy these games overall though, but their map design sucks.
What a stupid opinion. Better than Half Life 2 and BioShock and GTA 4? You people are living in the past. You're the kind of people who gets a gf, gets dumped then never get over her for the rest of your life. You know it's true 😂
@Agent39-t2b what an insane tamgent, you spineless virgin. It's a perfect game because i can complete it in less than a week instead of spending a work week's worth of time staring at a game. You must be unemployed too
best gta ever, hands down. i dont care what SA added, that gangbanging BS just seemed so lame to me, different characters wouldve been better. still to this day fk cj and fk grove street
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It is still very impressive what they managed to do in just one year, remembering the fact that they also worked on the PC port of GTA 3 at the same time. It’s insane.
They just ran everything through an AI upscaler. That's why it was so fast, and broken. Unreal Engine allows for easily porting games. They should have released 1 game per month, then it wouldn't have been as rushed.
@@ZenTauren
He was talking about the original release of the game *NOT* the definitive edition
@@ThaBotmon Ah. My bad 😅, but I wouldn't be surprised if Grove Street Games spent only 1 year on all of them combined 😂
People will make excuses saying games are too hard to make now but it's the opposite. They didn't have a world of premade engines, tools, and standard hardware back then. Devs just don't know how to make games anymore.
Crunches dude, terrible crunches
You can really tell the game was slapped together in just one year when you get to the 2nd half of the story and the missions start having more basic cutscenes and the balancing is all over the place.
You also have Sonny's laughter during the initial cutscene of _Keep Your Friends Close…_
It's kind of out of place, IMO.
@@NazarenoGerez Yeah, there was also some strange sentence splicing present. I don't remember which mission this cutscene belongs to, but in one of them the character speaking literally skips the whole middle of a word, making it illegible.
I'm not sure if this is what you're referring to, but later editions of the game got edited to remove any mentions of the Cuban and Haitan gangs, specifically, out of racist fears. That could be the case.
@fenn_fren
@@fenn_fren also the map design, if You are on Little Haiti And Little Havanna You Will see how simple are the buildings in these zones, they are literally simple cubes with textures on each side.
@@sonicelerizogamer1988 just whole west island is weird and simply
This game was still a massive upgrade. The only bad thing is the inability to swim. Treating water like it's lava is ridiculously unnecessary stress. The Easter eggs are top-notch. One is literally an egg that's under "construction" in 1984, and the atmosphere gives strong Backrooms vibes.
Yeah swimming is what hurt me most considering most of the map is water unlike GTA 3. At least Vice City Stories fixed that by making Vic Vance swimmable
That Easter egg was in vice city stories, not vice city. In vice city, it’s just an egg with “happy Easter” written on it, in vice city stories, it’s under construction because the game takes place a few years before vice city.
@@LlixX0 I just meant that both games have great Easter eggs, and I'm excited to see GTA 6. In the teaser for Agents of Sabotage, there's a bookend or something that looks like the little Tiki statues from Vice City! That could be teasing trailer 2, or they're just messing with us.
Vice City was basically an Expansion Pack for GTA 3 made in less than a year and somehow ended up being way way better than GTA 3.
But it had ray liotta
@@StevenSeagalGenius and it turn out to be a standalone game because of that huge work. But it was planed as a AddOn / Expansion Pack
I don't agree that it's leaps and bounds better than gta 3 , characters are a lot more annoying and crude that lean even more into stereotypes and it has that pointless grandeur for example in the mission " Demolition man " why does tommy have to use an RC helicopter to deploy the bombs at the construction site ? Why can't he do it in person ? And the supposed "explosion" didn't do anything more than break the windows even though the building was supposed to be brought down completely.... This should have been one of those secret missions and then it would make more sense. Of course it's subjective , a lot of people say this game is their favourite
@@deorodant_oh-one6875People definitely like to over exaggerate how much of a leap VC had over 3. Which it honestly didn't.
The gunplay, despite being an integral part of the game for example is still absolutely atrocious and remained completely unchanged. The system 3 had felt pretty janky even for its time might I add.
The map design is an interesting topic. The main island is definitely very fun, unique and intricate. But the second island is quite frankly just dogshit with barely anything. GTA3's islands were rather "same-y" aside from the third island, but quality wise was at least consistent. The main city of GTAVC is laughably bad compared to GTA3's second island, not even a competition.
Ehh id argue that, GTA 3 was better in a lot of aspect, but GTA Vice City does improve a lot of thing from GTA 3, and dont get me wrong, I prefer vice city over GTA 3
The game was made in 1 year and obviously it was not finished and the map is incomplete
It was only in VCS that Vice City was correctly mapped.
The 3rd island always felt rushed to me.
Especially downtown where there are just areas of nothing, buildings that make no sense and a random beach behind a wall of buildings.
Vice city stories did add new stuff to the map but you really see how sandwiched in they were after GTA 3 and before San Andreas to just finish the game and release it.
Still one of the greatest GTAs tho.
I played vcs before the original and was surprised at the difference it was a downgrade
@@WJINTLVC didnt have 3rd island, bud.
But planned t have as Avery mentioned on commercial.
@@SeriousDragonify Starfish and Prawn island lil bro. There's technically 4 islands in VC.
@@medalgearsalad1419 Not really islands tbh.
More like half lands.
The mystery of missed car in my childhood finally solved nearly 20 years later
It's ironic that parking at a parking lot is ill-advised.
I always thought that Vice City didn't have enough development time. Just look at the way Tommy runs and the fact that he doesn't die when he falls from buildings.
No one cares. It's not like you yourself will every make anything worth anyone's time. Just keep complaining about small stuff in other people's work, and see how far it gets you in life. If you have no idea how game development works, then you have no right to say anything.
@@nathanieloakleaves5789And you will? You seriously sound like manchild, immediately going apeshit when anyone gives the mildest of criticisms to a game.
No one will remember your name in a 100 years.
@@nathanieloakleaves5789 Excuse me? What kind of nonsense are you talking about? I just mentioned that some mechanics of a game from 22 years ago weren't very well polished and you're all bitten by my comment
@@nathanieloakleaves5789 dude calm down. He didnt say the game was bad just that some parts of it still show that it was rushed. The game still is a good game.
@nathanieloakleaves5789 Jesus christ, chill out bro 😭😂
They had 9 months to make a whole new game on underpowered hardware, and resulted in the best selling game of the era. Give them a break.
And it's still one of the best games ever
Gta peaked gameplay with SA, engine with 4.
@@AtmosphericPhenomenon V was a massive downgrade when compared to IV
@@manfreddawg People always argue about best GTA game is SA or V because they have never played IV.
@@adityaunde4134 driving in IV is so spongy
The thing that always ticked me off was Lance. You can do a mission perfectly and he will screw it up. Especially getting in the car. I remember "donut land" was a nightmare. One time I'm in the car and he was at the door before me, I assume he was in. So I haul ass with every video game cop in history chasing me and go. Then I see a warning to go back and get lance! I managed to go back to him by a miracle and he's just standing in the middle of the road! Doesn't even move towards my car and I even stopped with cop hell around me and he STILL didn't move! And he gets run over and died immediately🤦 and of course mission failed. And the mission saving him from the junk yard was tough too. I get him from the tied chair and run to my car. I look he's following. Then all of a sudden I see a warning telling me I left lance behind and failed. WHAT??😡😲 he was right behind me! I was happy to take him out in the last mission lol revenge
00:33 Damn!! that's why my cars dissapear when I was a child when playing this game!! Now I can die in peace 🤣
I grew up playing Vice City for hours and hours but ultimately Gta 3 to me was always interesting of the two. Gta 3 has unqiue mechanics like destroying steel fence, using the magnetic crane at the dumpsite and it's pedestrians can be exploded if hit with rocket launchers.
I am really glad that Vice City will now have a 3rd chance in HD 💚
I know this bug thanks to watching Joshimuz. It also exists in San Andreas. When he does his 69/70 stunt jumps he has to be careful at the car park not to get his bike despawned at one point.
The second island has a lot of issues weird textures that look to belong in an early PS1 title like that fake parking lot building in Little Haiti or that massive building in downtown that expands into the grass behind the moist palms hotel, also the single exit out of the airport was weird too..
Short and straight to the point. Love it!
it's still insane how they made of the best games of that generation is pretty much a year.
I wonder if the parking garage thing is on purpose so that it respawns the car for Cone Crazy.
0:36 for some reason, i got a small bout of nostalgia seeing that, small because i just woke up and i’m tired. Reminds me of the good days playing it as a kid
i found a blue hell glitch with that night club. u go in and dont walk anywhere after it loads u inside then look right with the right analog stick to do a 180 then you can just walk around the city unloaded and vice versa with leaving the club where you can walk around in the club with nothing loaded
It’s because Rockstar probably wanted to quickly capitalize on GTA 3’s success. They added motorcycles and a couple other cool things but still obviously missed on small details. The games were released less than a year apart.
i wonder how different would vice city look if took 2 years to develop like gta san andreas, and how diferent would san andreas look if vice city was launched in 2003 and san andreas in 2005 or 2006 so that means that liberty city stories and vice stories would took as long, or maybe that would mean that instead of gta4 we would have gta san andreas in 2008?, thats a bizarre universe thought to think about it
Different developers worked on DE trilogy.
Abt that statue and entire remaster games.
War Drum Studios.
Not same devs, bud.
yeah, i mean it was planned to only be an expansion pack for GTA 3, like London '61 and 69' with GTA 1. The fact that Vice city still managed to be superior than GTA 3 in almost every way possible and becoming one of the most iconic video games of all times is very impressive
very temporary is fitting for 19 years
And yet, this is my favourite GTA game
Not bad in overall for a planned DLC
the parking lot is an SCP
This channel is an example of milking a trope and what I hate about new UA-cam.
What trope? Being informative?
@@HOTD108_ This channel baits you into clicking with its titles and the content is nothing.
Dude left his car in the Romanian border
Mafia was so much better polished back in 2002 compared to Vice City which is why I preferred it despite Vice City’s open world
everyones not Dutch Van Der Linde
Well, they made It in one year..
One thing that bogs the game down is how before the final mission the game stops showing you where the main missions are and it gives you NO indication of what you are supposed to do to progress.
So you have to go to the Internet to figure out how to even progress which is already a sign of terrible game design but it gets even worse when you find out how you progress, you have to purchase 6 assets and do their missions to make them profitable this is terrible because being forced to do side activities to progress in the main story is not fun at all.
Add to that that some of these missions are just impossible to find out without a walkthrough. For example in the Pole Position asset you have to sit for multiple minutes in front of a dancing lady to make the asset profitable, how was i supposed to know that?
Overall the assets being mandatory and not well explained at all dimished the enjoyment of the game for me.
The assets being mandatory is a bit much. But it's not hard to figure out how and what to do. You're meant to explore and see what's what. The game slows down and then you think about what else to do, then you go have a look at the assets and just do stuff until the last mission opens up. You are meant to be taking over the city, and the assets are a part of that. I personally could do without the empire building, I generally don't like it in most games. But I don't think in Vice City it's that cryptic at all. You can find the Pole Position thing by seeing an open building and going in there, then wondering if it functions at all, which it does a little bit. But yes, the time it takes you need to be in there, is boring as Hell.
there is nothing more permanent then temporary
why is the sound broken
"developers" didn't make the definitive edition its literally gta filled with mods on a different engine
I've seen mods for SA that make it look better while preserving the classic style and I've also seen mods where they make it more realistic and both have looked better than what rockstar paid some guy on fiverr to do.
Comparing the original Vice City against the "Definitive Edition" is like comparing the original Ecce Homo against its "restoration". Don't do it.
Back when GTA was still eurojank
It was made in a year, give them a break
They clearly didn't plan for the backlash with the release of Defective Edition, either! Ha!! 😁
as much as i love vice city, object permanence is not its strong point. i love the game, it just sucks so much was left unpolished.
This is an interesting one, apear and disapering vehicle, in GTA, for me in general. I am glad you foud that in GTA Vice City, with those vehicles . I played for a short period of time Vice City. I don"t like how easy disapair the Limo from Mision Salvadore caled a meeting outside misions, especialy in some places were I want to go, and can be obtain in that mision, even in garage/safehouse when I will plan to store the Hummer/Patriot in Gta 3 Real Life, the limo being BMW 760 Li V 12. For me, this is something that I realy like, some vehicles remain, others vehicles disapair shortly, very glad you bring this up.
Vice city is so much more than it's flaws
Downtown is a horrible part of the map. It's like 4 roads and no monorail. I know it was a quickly put together expansion for GTA 3 that became a game in it's own right but that is the reason it's so hastily put together....GTA 3 itself was kinda shoddily made. I do enjoy these games overall though, but their map design sucks.
whats the music in this video?
@@joelesque far the days come - the letter box
Vice Shitty is the worst GTA game.
clever
Still the best game ever made
What a stupid opinion. Better than Half Life 2 and BioShock and GTA 4? You people are living in the past. You're the kind of people who gets a gf, gets dumped then never get over her for the rest of your life. You know it's true 😂
@Agent39-t2b what an insane tamgent, you spineless virgin. It's a perfect game because i can complete it in less than a week instead of spending a work week's worth of time staring at a game. You must be unemployed too
@@Agent39-t2b vice city is perfect because i can complete it in a few days instead of spending all my time playing games like you. You sound miserable
Lmao is this bait?
@@Agent39-t2b living in the past? all the games you mentioned are 15+ years old
best gta ever, hands down. i dont care what SA added, that gangbanging BS just seemed so lame to me, different characters wouldve been better. still to this day fk cj and fk grove street
Dont care.Still a fantastic game.Fantastic atmosphere
The only definitive thing about that edition is how dogshit it is
Yeah, but it's still a great game, so.... I don't care?
real
I disagree, watch behind the scenes, where actors & developers are excited while creating this game.
Being happy making a game doesn't equal how rushed or finished a game is. What is this logic?
@RandomHeroGames Behind this logic, exists nothing.
@@NoName-st5so they might have been excited, but that doesn't mean the game had enough time to be developed.
@@coments101 We are agreed.
Achei que era um vídeo de brasileiro pelo texto (que foi traduzido errado ainda)