I have a Craftsman power hacksaw and a South Bend 7” shaper. I like to get them both going and drift into a semi state of consciousness lulled by the symphony of the duet.
That old saw is gold my friend, and a lot more than i have :) but i do have an large 2 ton mill, and i do both milling and light turning in that machine
My father in law has a saw like yours and he got a 10 Tpi & 14 Tpi blade and and it cuts much faster . He tried both and both work well just left the 10 on it. Love them old saws
If you make up a blade holder that will fit in the tool head, you can use the shaper for saw cutting while the power hacksaw is down for repairs. It's a bit fiddly to figure out, but if you use extreme care in getting the cut started right, you can get some very accurate results from it. It won't be fast, but if you are a winded old fart like me, it still beats cutting by hand.
Man, I love those saws. They're great. Not sure I'd be happy hanging a chuck like that off a piddly little spindle, though. That's supposed to go on a spindle with a through hole that more or less matches its centre bore, that's gotta be what - 50mm? Something like an L0 spindle nose. That kind of weight is liable to be "not friendly" to your spindle's bearing surface at startup, before the oil's had time to get it all hydrodynamic.
Gday, I’d be lost without my old power hacksaw, it just ticks away in the background while I’m doing something else, when you hear the piece hit the floor it all done, take care, Matty
I scraped an old caravan the other day and accidentally melted some aluminium profiles :) I might give that another go. ua-cam.com/video/d6kcNairX2k/v-deo.html
@@Rolingmetal you redeemed yourselllf after last weeks attempt. I was going to say but didnt. I will nowhowever. Why make 2 morse tapers to go into the plate for the bowl, just use 1 to go directly into the lathe, alzo the screw is too small for the wood
I do not know exactly why I want to build or restore one of these old power hacksaws. I have a decent metal cutting bandsaw. How heavy is that lid? does it have to push down with much force and is there a standard size for blades? Thank you of ra great video .
@@Rolingmetal With this new score my tool temple will be finaly finished, mainly because no more tools and machines would fit, two vintage lathes, one bench drillpress, one large vintage floor drill press and now a vintage power hacksaw, I will be lucky to fit in between those machines so I could work on them 😀
@@Rolingmetal that's a damn thing, companies who refuse to sell to non-commercial costumers. That leaves us with the Chinese companies. Just because they don't want the trouble dealing with VAT. It should not be allowed in the EU to refuse customers on that reason.
I was lucky enough to get in contact with someone that was will to help me out. Even though the company did say on the website they were not selling to private persons.
10 points for getting the absolute maximum diameter you can in your power saw. I don’t know what you would have done if it had knocked both sides. I’d lover a shaper. I never see any for sale here. You should fix it up. That would make a great series!
I will try it one day, but in might easier to just buy another one. Got this one for 200 and almost bough the newer model with vfd for 175 (did not feel like picking it up) They don't show up for sale all that often, but they are out there. Best thing, it's a Dutch machine :)
WOW I just noticed how many comments you reply to. That must take you a bit of time. That sounds like a bargain price for a shaper. I'd be lucky to find a piece of crap with the casting cracked in half for that much :) Shame the shipping would cost more than my house
There have been more comment then usual to this simple video :) I do not always respond to older videos. I might start looking at a replacement shaper if this one is beyond Presque.
you can rotate the workpiece in the vice to cut larger stock, that way you can keep the blade working in the top quarter,,,, nice video, I'm sitting outside in the Portuguese sunshine after a satisfying morning of reassembly of a prehistoric Portuguese power hacksaw, it's an Osis, made in Ovar , Portugal.
@@davidlammas3629 Hi David, that would work to help and minimise the number of teeth in contact at once. It would be a bit of a fiddle to line up multiple cuts perfectly. Sounds like a great way to snap a blade if they don’t line up close enough. :) However you still need the blade to span the full diameter sooner or later to cut the middle out even if all the teeth are not in contact.
@@Rolingmetal you could shape some thick steel plate with a hammer and then braze it to the cast iron, but that would probably look relly bad and the connection would not be very strong, but it would be worth trying before throwing it to the srap
Holy Moly dude I am very impressed with that old saw. There is no way my Cheap Chinesium 4X6 would be able to handle that. Take care of that old jewel, I'm not sure you appreciate what it is you have there. I have been sort of looking for something like that here locally, I did see one recently but people are asking serious money for them. $300 and someone had made wooden pulleys and stuck on it. Anywhere from $300 to $650 if you are lucky enough to even run across one.
@Flat Bastard Engineering Channel Agreed. I think I paid £40 for one with a working motor and spare blade. I added a motor starter to be safe, but nothing else had to be fixed.
It was a rather difficult moment that got edged into my retina forever. It tipped over slowly, when on of the casters collapsed. There was actually enough time to try and stop it, but I though better of that, and held back. And then it came down..... Dramatic. But did not crack the concrete floor.
Don't really know, I never tried it. Pulley/flywheel came off and most of the oil came out. I Think I will have to try it one day. That was a cool unloading video :)
I would be scared to put such a huge and heavy chuck on such a tiny spindle thread, that thing has to have over 20kg with the back plate, I could just imagine spining it and the thing just comes flying at me, my first vintage lathe has also only a small spindle thread and it is 22mm in diameter, I would not go over 125mm chucks , on my bigger lathe with a 35mm spindle thread I can have a 160mm chuck, but even on that I would not put such a huge chuck as you have, but than again I am just a scraptonium amateur
Pulley/flywheel came flying off, a chunk of cast iron broke off, and the there was a oil spill. Concrete floor survived. But I don't know never had it running. Not before and not after.
8 minutes of calm Dutch-English comments to a working vintage hacksaw just before bedtime is quite ok. I think I'll sleep well to night.
Goodnight :)
That was one relaxing video of a very well designed and built machine at work with a very patient operator. Thanks.
I have a Craftsman power hacksaw and a South Bend 7” shaper. I like to get them both going and drift into a semi state of consciousness lulled by the symphony of the duet.
There you go, slow and steady wins the race!
The race from over, but it's a start :)
I dont know why but watching the saw cut always looks human like to me. Very cool video... Thank you.
That power hacksaw is one serious beast of a machine! You did a good job on the restoration.
No restoration. just replaced the water in the hydraulic system and fixed the white water pump.
That old saw is gold my friend, and a lot more than i have :) but i do have an large 2 ton mill, and i do both milling and light turning in that machine
A 2 ton mill would be nice too
Best hacksaw video i have seen yet !!! Cheers .
Don't you just love these old hacksaws, they are so peaceful and calming to watch :)
Love it. I've got a 6" cut Qualters and Smith saw. I could watch it all day long
I just replaced my bandsaw with an ancient power hacksaw. So satisfying
Slow but calming and satisfying to look at.
My probably 100-year old Rapidor Manchester hacksaw is still going strong, too. As you say, very satisfying.
My father in law has a saw like yours and he got a 10 Tpi & 14 Tpi blade and and it cuts much faster . He tried both and both work well just left the 10 on it. Love them old saws
I think you need more tpi for softer metals. I only have one type of blade
He cuts aluminum and all fast with the blade
Yea I understand we have to work with what we got.
Use what you got. Very important to me :)
If you make up a blade holder that will fit in the tool head, you can use the shaper for saw cutting while the power hacksaw is down for repairs. It's a bit fiddly to figure out, but if you use extreme care in getting the cut started right, you can get some very accurate results from it. It won't be fast, but if you are a winded old fart like me, it still beats cutting by hand.
Let hope it keep going for long time :)
Man, I love those saws. They're great.
Not sure I'd be happy hanging a chuck like that off a piddly little spindle, though. That's supposed to go on a spindle with a through hole that more or less matches its centre bore, that's gotta be what - 50mm? Something like an L0 spindle nose. That kind of weight is liable to be "not friendly" to your spindle's bearing surface at startup, before the oil's had time to get it all hydrodynamic.
I think the chuck is about the same size as my old 3 jaw scroll chuck. Perhaps even a bit lighter.
Gday, I’d be lost without my old power hacksaw, it just ticks away in the background while I’m doing something else, when you hear the piece hit the floor it all done, take care, Matty
It can be rather loud when a piece of pipe hits the concrete floor :)
I love watching my shaper at work.. your saw is pretty cool.
Watching a shaper at work actually made my buy one. Just too bad I tipped it over before ever using it :(
That's S355 steel, that's like a little stronger than normal mild Steel
Second this That's what the label looks like.
It's machinable on little vintage lathe. Good scraptonium :)
Thinking about getting that second piece as well from the scrappers. You can not have to much scraptonium. Probably better than money in the bank :)
I scraped an old caravan the other day and accidentally melted some aluminium profiles :) I might give that another go. ua-cam.com/video/d6kcNairX2k/v-deo.html
@@richiesrestorations4883 ...
Can this be molten and forged into something useful, like knives...
Excellent vid
Thank you sir.
@@Rolingmetal you redeemed yourselllf after last weeks attempt. I was going to say but didnt. I will nowhowever. Why make 2 morse tapers to go into the plate for the bowl, just use 1 to go directly into the lathe, alzo the screw is too small for the wood
I do not know exactly why I want to build or restore one of these old power hacksaws. I have a decent metal cutting bandsaw. How heavy is that lid? does it have to push down with much force and is there a standard size for blades? Thank you of ra great video .
Great video thanks keep us updated as you can
Will do!
Not bad at all. That little thing has more capacity than my expensive cold cutting saw :)
It's slow but it gets there :)
nice clean cut! Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
I am getting a new power hacksaw in two days along with a huge pile of steel and bronze round stock
You can not have to much scraptonium. Good score :)
@@Rolingmetal With this new score my tool temple will be finaly finished, mainly because no more tools and machines would fit, two vintage lathes, one bench drillpress, one large vintage floor drill press and now a vintage power hacksaw, I will be lucky to fit in between those machines so I could work on them 😀
Woooow Amaziiing hack saw right there, a jewel to care of... Salute to you and your patience too. Relaxing video though.
Just for your information, when cutting big stoc you need a coarser blade like 6 or 4 tpi for stock over 100mm
I only have one type of blade and was lucky to find a company that would sell to a private person :)
Might add this is because on long cuts the gullets fill up on the finer blades and the saw skates.
@@Rolingmetal that's a damn thing, companies who refuse to sell to non-commercial costumers.
That leaves us with the Chinese companies. Just because they don't want the trouble dealing with VAT. It should not be allowed in the EU to refuse customers on that reason.
I was lucky enough to get in contact with someone that was will to help me out. Even though the company did say on the website they were not selling to private persons.
Viebahn power hacksaw ? I bought the same for 50 €..
Those aluminum and steel shavings from the saw would make some fun thermite for your fires!
Interesting, probably too big, but some magnesium might work. I better keep my eye open maybe a chuck shows up at the local scrap yard :)
10 points for getting the absolute maximum diameter you can in your power saw.
I don’t know what you would have done if it had knocked both sides.
I’d lover a shaper. I never see any for sale here. You should fix it up. That would make a great series!
I will try it one day, but in might easier to just buy another one. Got this one for 200 and almost bough the newer model with vfd for 175 (did not feel like picking it up) They don't show up for sale all that often, but they are out there. Best thing, it's a Dutch machine :)
WOW I just noticed how many comments you reply to. That must take you a bit of time.
That sounds like a bargain price for a shaper. I'd be lucky to find a piece of crap with the casting cracked in half for that much :)
Shame the shipping would cost more than my house
There have been more comment then usual to this simple video :) I do not always respond to older videos. I might start looking at a replacement shaper if this one is beyond Presque.
you can rotate the workpiece in the vice to cut larger stock, that way you can keep the blade working in the top quarter,,,, nice video, I'm sitting outside in the Portuguese sunshine after a satisfying morning of reassembly of a prehistoric Portuguese power hacksaw, it's an Osis, made in Ovar , Portugal.
@@davidlammas3629
Hi David, that would work to help and minimise the number of teeth in contact at once. It would be a bit of a fiddle to line up multiple cuts perfectly. Sounds like a great way to snap a blade if they don’t line up close enough. :)
However you still need the blade to span the full diameter sooner or later to cut the middle out even if all the teeth are not in contact.
good technology & What is that white chemical name and formula
What part of it is hydraulic?
Shaper... since when? That break would be a big job. Nice straight cut. And don't keep us in suspense please RM :-)
I had it for 3 years now and never used it. Almost brought it to the scrappers.
@@Rolingmetal you could shape some thick steel plate with a hammer and then braze it to the cast iron, but that would probably look relly bad and the connection would not be very strong, but it would be worth trying before throwing it to the srap
The shaper can be seen in this video in the background around the 1 minute mark: ua-cam.com/video/7YzEoOtOAgg/v-deo.html haha found it!
Well done :) It is still standing there in the corner of the barn. Getting rustier every year.
Do you have any video on your busted shaper?
Not yet, it's still hard to talk about my stupidity :)
@@Rolingmetal bad day, that happens
@@Rolingmetal we have all been there
They seem sooo slow. I see the appeal of one. I wonder how long it would take to cut by hand?
It is very slow, slow but steady. With my chinisium hacksaw blades it would probably take a week to cut it by hand :)
@@Rolingmetal but isn't that why you get students for? It would tell you how serious they are, lol
Holy Moly dude I am very impressed with that old saw.
There is no way my Cheap Chinesium 4X6 would be able to handle that.
Take care of that old jewel, I'm not sure you appreciate what it is you have there.
I have been sort of looking for something like that here locally, I did see one recently but people are asking serious money for them. $300 and someone had made wooden pulleys and stuck on it. Anywhere from $300 to $650 if you are lucky enough to even run across one.
Best 100 euro I ever spend :)
Although a pack of blades was also close to 100.
@Flat Bastard Engineering Channel Agreed. I think I paid £40 for one with a working motor and spare blade. I added a motor starter to be safe, but nothing else had to be fixed.
@@richiesrestorations4883 That's expensive. Last time I bought a quality Eclipse blade for mine it cost about £15
bij welke oud ijzer boer haal je dat mooie spul de meesten in mijn omgeving hebben alleen maar schroot oant sjen
AHH you have your tea just like me,,, no frills of knickers just red😉👍
I like it pure, and no fancy flavours.
@@Rolingmetal 😉👍,, I do say to my wife would you like some tea in your milk hahaha
Milk! That's for babies :)
@@Rolingmetal 😂 correct
That is awesome!
How long does it take to cut this piece?
I didn't know you had a little shaper.
Had it for 3 years now and never showed it in a video. Came pretty to close to bringing it to the scrappers after I tipped it over.
@@Rolingmetal I don't know if you cried when it fell over, but I'm NOT crying either.. it's allergies! :(
It was a rather difficult moment that got edged into my retina forever. It tipped over slowly, when on of the casters collapsed. There was actually enough time to try and stop it, but I though better of that, and held back. And then it came down..... Dramatic. But did not crack the concrete floor.
@@Rolingmetal Brutal. How bad is the shaper? You ever see this guy's lathe unload? ua-cam.com/video/sJd5UgzRY38/v-deo.html
Don't really know, I never tried it. Pulley/flywheel came off and most of the oil came out. I Think I will have to try it one day. That was a cool unloading video :)
Well done about a weeks work with a hand hacksaw lol
I could try and find out, might be a goo exercise. Better then paying for a gym membership :)
I would be scared to put such a huge and heavy chuck on such a tiny spindle thread, that thing has to have over 20kg with the back plate, I could just imagine spining it and the thing just comes flying at me, my first vintage lathe has also only a small spindle thread and it is 22mm in diameter, I would not go over 125mm chucks , on my bigger lathe with a 35mm spindle thread I can have a 160mm chuck, but even on that I would not put such a huge chuck as you have, but than again I am just a scraptonium amateur
It's about the same size a my 3 jaw scroll chuck. I think it will be fine.
@@Rolingmetal yeah you could be right, for me it is just something unussual
Is that an Ai shaper?
Correct.
@@Rolingmetal so what's the damage?
Pulley/flywheel came flying off, a chunk of cast iron broke off, and the there was a oil spill. Concrete floor survived. But I don't know never had it running. Not before and not after.
Отлично 👍🤝
Благодаря :)
2:16 that aint water
If you are tired of that old hacksaw I’ll take it off your hands.LOL
Nooo, it's probably the star of my little shit show :)
this but with cheese