I always thought Bane pulled this scheme because he wanted to see Batman as not a mythical, unstoppable, creature of the night, but a man who can get tired and overwhelmed just like anyone else. In my opinion, the scheme actually makes sense because it's about Bane proving to himself that Batman is a human being who can be broken, not the boogeyman he used to have nightmares about as a child. I still love this video though Mr. Rogues. :)
Yeah. He wanted to destroy the myth of Batman because the bat creature Bane saw in his dreams is what Bruce wants criminals to see the Batman persona as. An unstoppable supernatural bat creature that punishes criminals.
I think since Bane also grew up in a prison where only the strong survive and you get respect for being the strongest, most dangerous guy in there Bane saw Batman as Gotham's top dog and saw beating him as proving his superiority.
its even simpler than that... a prisoner came into the prison where Bane was at and Hyped Batman up to Bane so it became Banes sole purpose in life to conquer this "Batman"... plus he has nightmares of bats so he's conquering his fears too lol
Just some ideas on what some other rogues would be up to after being freed during Knightfall. Killer Moth: Selling firearms, grenades and other resources to high-scale mobsters like Penguin and Black Mask through a control tank he hijacked, he also supplies his deadly goods to thugs and rioters out on the street to prolong the chaos. He actively calls out Batman to face him, seeing himself as an Anti-Batman after all. Ratcatcher: Immediately goes to the sewers and masses an army of sewers rats in the thousands and then intentionally infects his rats with multiple diseases he stole from a research facility to spread a plague of biblical proportions throughout Gotham. Calendar Man: Actively tries to find Batman so that he can murder him as part of his plan to create a new holiday, a holiday so infamous that no one would forget it's date that holiday being "Dead Bat Day", the day that he killed The Bat. Helping him on his mission is the equally date obsessed Calendar Girl.
"Knightfall" is one of my favorite Batman stories, so it's disappointing when reviewers usually just talk about the Bane and Azreal portions. Batman having to take down his deadliest foes one at a time is part of what makes this arc so great. I'm very glad you discussed the smaller portions of the saga. Since you didn't mention it, what did you think of "God of Fear"? A great Scarecrow story in my opinion.
6:44 It really is a pity they never thought to do a similar type of story with Black Mask, having him come to believe Bruce Wayne's public persona is a metaphorical mask hiding something and discovering Batman's secret identity. I'm talking classic Black Mask, not skull-face, sadist Black Mask.
Personally I prefer Poison Ivy as a self-righteous ecoterrorist over the green focused anti-hero she's written as now. In particular when Swamp Thing and poison Ivy are supposed to be contrasting characters.
Oh god I just nerdgasm'd!!!! I LOVE Knightfall, and its even better that my favourite UA-camr is reviewing the series! I'd love to see the part 2 and 3. In my opinion, this is one of the best stories in the Batman universe to date, the sheer terror that comes from knowing that all of Gotham's rogues have escaped is absolutely amazing, and the fact that Bane breaks Bruce's back is so... I don't know how to put it? Cool?!? XD Anyway, you know the deal, great f*cking video as always, and I was so glad this was a 25 minute video!!!!!! These longer videos are great as they always contain great synopses and analyses from you! Keep em coming brother!
Haha thank you very much! ;) Yeah the back breaking is a seminal part of Batman's history. I was going to talk about it more inthe video, but it got long enoug as is.. I'm glad you guys enjoy these long videos becasue they're a sh*t ton of work.. :P
Bro... You know what sets you apart from the other Comic book channels is that you don't read the dialogues in filmy style like in theatres... But you do give it an cinematic atmospheric quality to it... Through background music... Slown zoom and pans and especially your slow narration over crisp comic panels... Hats off to you for that... And also your opening music.👌😉🎶🎶🎶🎧❤️👍😘😎😎
Makes me wish someone would write a similar story for the flash. All the criminals break out of iron heights, flash and kid flash race all over the city to recapture them all and the mystery villain behind the break out (grodd) reveals himself, confronts barry out of costume and nearly kills him. Rest of the story focuses on wally (original and new 52 version) as they battle grodd, who has taken over central city, while barry is recovering. Throughout the arc, we get spotlight stories on each member of the Rogues as they operate on their own, as there are very few stories about the Rogues individually (aside from some Geoff johns issues and stories from the bronze and silver age). We also get a new Backstory for gorilla grodd, depicting him as a more sympathetic figure. His bloodlust stems from losing his mate to poachers, who took her to a government lab, where she was subjected to painful experiments. This was after gaining their intelligence, and creating gorilla city. He tracks down the scientists and force them to take him to her. In a scene straight from star wars ep 2, grodd finds his mate, but she is already dead. The only thing that remains is her cage. Grodd goes into a rage, kills the scientists and vows to conquer the human world, for all of his kind. However, the flash stops him and their rivalry begins. This leads to the events of the main series, where grodd uses the criminals of central to weaken flash and once barry is exhausted, grodd will strike. The title of this story is Blitzkrieg and it is the definitive grodd story.
@@jordanhorne1173 Excuse me?! How is sharing my own fucking story of a Knight Fall style tale for Flash make me a narcissist?! And yes I changed my account name!
I would love to see another mass-breakout of the Bat-Rogues at some point that is treated with just as much respect as this one was, if not more so, if only because it would be nice to see more modern writers (Paul Dini, Gail Simone, Tom King, etc...) tackle such a storyline.
Right now a lot of the time it seems like people use Arkham breakouts as plot-fodder and have Batman take them down very quickly, which isn’t very realistic considering that one on one the villains usually give him trouble. It seems like Knightfall is one of the only stories that got that right. It honestly doesn’t bother me too much though, but it happens in Kings of Fear #1 and Batman #70 in recent memory
If they made an Arkham game based on Knightfall they'd have to portray Bane similarly to how he was in Arkham Origins. I love the idea of having to play through the Wayne Manor fight between Batman and Bane which ends up in the Batcave. It would be an unwinnable fight obviously where no matter what you do Bane still breaks Batman's back.
Really late comment, but I could easily see that motherly version of Ivy from that one comic you mentioned be the perfect version of her to go up against the Mad Hatter. Maybe one if the kids with her, or even her own plant-grown kids resembles Alice, prompting those two into conflict?
Greetings friend! You should do a Top list of some of the darkest Batman stories. There are quite a number of them: Batman Tenses, Gotham by Midnight, etc... Nice vid!
This was a great review of the villains of this arc that I hold so dear. I've reread it many times and it has gotten me through some rough patches as a something to distract myself with. Also, I am a big Jason Voorhees fan so I'm going to go watch the video you promoted in the beginning. I have yet to actually dive into Nightmare Gallery so it should be a good starting point for me.
Gotham Rogues it's no problem. I see that a lot of people are giving you shit about it but don't sweat it too badly it's just how fans are. Many don't seem to realize that it's just one guy, with his own things to deal with, handling these channels. I'm sure it will develop just Like Gotham Rogues has. There's a lot to work with there. Maybe you could find another individual to help that is likeminded in tastes and is willing to follow your original style?
First of all: somehow I either missed the fact you've made a horror-themed channel, or worse yet, forgot. MUST SUBSCRIBE! Second of all: I really like the way you went through this story rogue-by-rogue (not unlike Batman, come to think of it), looking at how each one is portrayed and how their respective tales and arcs fit into the overarching series. I've actually always wanted to see somebody tackle Knightfall this way, looking at the various characters (especially the villains, because they are such a big part of this arc, in particular) and how they fit into the story like puzzle pieces. And, for the most part, I think I agree with your feelings on the whole...excepting Bane. Rather than "a cowardly cheater," what I got out of his plan was something much more strategic. Let's consider this very briefly: if he's become so obsessed with Batman, then Bane probably knows the Dark Knight has taken on opponents almost as strong, if not equally strong, if not STRONGER, than Bane himself. He knows that Batman may not be a physical match, but definitely has some mental chops to him that could aid him. By weakening Batman this way, he taunts Batman with his own mortality, tests just how far the man can go, and more importantly, assures himself victory. He thinks like a soldier: you DON'T want to give the enemy a fighting chance. You want to find the best way to defeat them, plain and simple. And, if you're an intimidating and sadistic villain on top of that, getting a chance to topple them so utterly and rub in their faces how "disappointing" they are is just your cup of tea. Anyway, other than that, like I said, I feel I agree with you wholeheartedly as far as how the other major rogues are depicted, as well as how their stories go. I've been waiting a while on this review, and it didn't disappoint! Honestly, I think it's one of your best videos yet. So bravo to you! :)
Haha ;) interesting point of view! Another commenter said basically the same thing. I guess I havent really considered the 'strategic military' aspect of the character. Not sure why, it's certainly displayed in Dark Knight Rises, especially as a visual motiff. I've never been that crazy about Bane, just like Ra's al Ghul, so maybe that's why I havent thought too deeply about him. Anyway, thanks for the input! Glad you think it's one of my best videos, it makes it worthwhile, becasue this one was a b*tch to make too.. It's these damn long ones.. :P
I think its well shown that Bane is a Strategist to a high degree and that he had to use his head so yeah that shows bane as a better character in this arc
Great video ! I'm just wondering what your opinion is on the scarecrow story shortly after the Harvey one I believe. Its been awhile since I read it, but I'm pretty sure it was connected to the whole events from Knightfall. I remember it being one of my favorite Scarecrow stories, though a lot of it may have had to do with the art and the fact I wasn't really that satisfied with his whole section previously with the Joker. It, along with Zsasz and the Ventriloquist's stories were my favorites.
Sorry,Correction to my last post. just re read the whole Knightfall part, totally forgot Scarecrow and Joker broke up after Batman was already broken, and that it was Jean Paul who fought him in God of Fear. Still Interested in what you thought of it though. Also I take back about not being satisfied with the whole Joker & Scarecrow team up. Idk why I didn't like it when I first read it, but I really liked them together this time around. Its fun to see Crane more carefree and just eating a bag of chips while trying to bring Gotham to his knees. Really besides Poison Ivy's section, I really loved the stories with all the other rogues, even Two-Face, even if its placement kind of screws things up.
I think the idea behind Bane's fight with Batman is that he considers it a battle of strategy, not a matter of a fair fight between combatants. He's always had a vague military/commando aspect to him, anyway, and he studied such things while in prison - so it makes sense for him to plan it all out like a military campaign, with Batman as the opposing 'general'. And going by that logic, it IS sort of a fair fight - he made the first attack by blowing up Arkham, then waited for his opponent to counter it, which he was unable to. Ergo, he beats the crap out of him and wins. Incidentally, I was wondering - do you know if 'Knightfall' has been fully collected as of yet? I mean, I know the main part of the storyline has been available in TPB form for years - I own them - but they don't include either the 'prelude' bits (where Bats fights the Riddler, first meets Bane, Azrael fights the 'Metalhead' goon, etc.) or the main part of the 'Knightquest' follow-up, prior to Bruce meeting up with Lady Shiva. Are there any editions that collect those parts, that you're aware of?
Interesting point of view! I like it! No sorry, I don't know if such editions excist. The volumes I have, the ones from 2012, do not include those extra parts. I think they released new volumes last year, or maybe earlier this year. Maybe those include them.
Just rewatched this. I wish you would go back and do another review of knightfall but this time go over the main story. You said there's a lot of other channels that have done this but I do not see any. There's a couple of people standing in front of a camera who talk about the story while holding the comic book but that isn't a video review that I would want to watch you know. Hope you think about doing an overall review of knightfall
This is one of the best Batman storylines of all time, not only does it feature all the classic villains, but also feature some newer obscure villains, like corrosive man, gunhawk, and the tally-man.
6:11 I think you are looking at this wrong. Bane isnt like Solomon Grundy or Killer Croc who are just all brawn no brains. Bane is an intelligent and cunning man. Bane knew that defeating batman takes both brains and muscle. I think it is totally reasonable and justified that he would do something like this. To show that he is mentally superior as well as physically.
i dont think its cheating of how bane wine beacues he knows that no other rough was able to beat him with brains or bronds pluse bane all ready knows that he is stronger then batman so he just proved to be smarter as well
Coincidentally enough I'm making a batman movie called Batman Rise of Knightfall and it is basically about what the movie title says, the rise of the Knightfall story
Imagine a world where Batman swallowed his pride, and called in Superman. In my, admittedly silly, imagination, Clark faces bane in Batman's costume, and, venom powered or not, Bane breaks his leg on Superman's spine when bringing it down on his knee.
@@j-money2295 That, and, it kind of is about pride. These lunatic criminals are all on the loose, and lives are in danger. The other heroes exist, and Batman has the means to contact them. We all love Batman, but, doing all that himself was not a smart idea for his, or the city's best interests.
I just finished this storyline. Batman also faced Cavalier in knightfall but only in one page or so. Got boring after bane broke his back. Loved seeing all the different villains. Just wished tweedle dee and dumb was in the story, and maybe a few others. Arkham war was similar but it was short and got boring fast I just liked seeing all the villains . I also didn't care for the two face show case books. Been better of it showed them in order like the others instead of a backflash.
I feel like Bane wore Batman out because he wanted to destroy his fear. Bane was terrified of Bats and Batman was the sort of living embodiment of his fear. If people had the ability to destroy their feared creatures who would actually want a fair fight? I’m gonna be real here if I had to fight a clown I would find ways to beat the clown quickly so I don’t have to deal with it for too long. I don’t want a fair fight for that... I don’t want the clown to have a chance for an upper hand. Unhoborable or not.
Actually in I Am Bane. After Bane defeats all of Batmans rogues he didnt seem any where near as tired as batman was in knightfall. And it didnt take him 3 days to do it either.
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Viktorija Ilesku ...i also never understood that batman time frame either and been collecting batman when Jason Todd was killed. Till this date i never knew why no one got older such such as the Robins etc. But now with the rebirth series and new 52 that past....everything is suppossed to be new again. I still love these older issues for some reason...but the wish Batman was older.
Blockbuster I was dead at that point, and Blockbuster II was too smart to be manipulated, plus he was busy being the biggest crime lord in Blüdhaven at the time.
I never liked the Knightfall storyline. It seemed like such an obvious money grab, along the lines of "Death of Superman." I don't think Kelley Jones's art is a good match for Batman. Jim Aparo's art is usually great but only when he does his own inks. That so many different artists with varying styles were used also prevented an overall consistent feel for the saga imo. The only thing I liked about Knightfall era was the introduction of Azrael. I don't believe the "Sword of Azrael" min-series by Denny O'Neil is included in the omnibuses. Is it? I also think the theme of breaking Batman had already been explored in "Blind Justice" by Sam Hamm, a much superior story imo.
I personally feel like the art style works quite well, but i agree about the inconsistency of artstyle was a bit of an issue for me as well. What exactly makes "blind justice" better than the knightfall series? Ive never read it but id like to read it. I like the first volume of knightfall a lot personally but i dislike knightquest volume one honestly (Azrael is just too much of an idiot as batman). Im about to read volume 2, hopefully its better. Edit: I also dislike Kelley Jones's coverart, it just looks weird to me.
I always thought Bane pulled this scheme because he wanted to see Batman as not a mythical, unstoppable, creature of the night, but a man who can get tired and overwhelmed just like anyone else. In my opinion, the scheme actually makes sense because it's about Bane proving to himself that Batman is a human being who can be broken, not the boogeyman he used to have nightmares about as a child. I still love this video though Mr. Rogues. :)
Thanks! Another interesting point of view! Yeah I could buy that I suppose.
Yeah. He wanted to destroy the myth of Batman because the bat creature Bane saw in his dreams is what Bruce wants criminals to see the Batman persona as. An unstoppable supernatural bat creature that punishes criminals.
I think since Bane also grew up in a prison where only the strong survive and you get respect for being the strongest, most dangerous guy in there Bane saw Batman as Gotham's top dog and saw beating him as proving his superiority.
its even simpler than that... a prisoner came into the prison where Bane was at and Hyped Batman up to Bane so it became Banes sole purpose in life to conquer this "Batman"... plus he has nightmares of bats so he's conquering his fears too lol
Bane is one of the best villain of all time next to the Joker. Sad that most media don’t portrayed Bane as like in this comic review video.
Just some ideas on what some other rogues would be up to after being freed during Knightfall.
Killer Moth: Selling firearms, grenades and other resources to high-scale mobsters like Penguin and Black Mask through a control tank he hijacked, he also supplies his deadly goods to thugs and rioters out on the street to prolong the chaos. He actively calls out Batman to face him, seeing himself as an Anti-Batman after all.
Ratcatcher: Immediately goes to the sewers and masses an army of sewers rats in the thousands and then intentionally infects his rats with multiple diseases he stole from a research facility to spread a plague of biblical proportions throughout Gotham.
Calendar Man: Actively tries to find Batman so that he can murder him as part of his plan to create a new holiday, a holiday so infamous that no one would forget it's date that holiday being "Dead Bat Day", the day that he killed The Bat. Helping him on his mission is the equally date obsessed Calendar Girl.
Now that's an interesting idea; Julian trying to create a 'Dead Bat Day' holiday. Now it seems so obvious I'm amazed no ones ever done it.
Late reply, but that calendar man idea is straight up genius!
I like your way of reviewing Knightfall, it's more original than every other comic book channel
Thank you very much! That's what I was going for ;)
1:20 - The story
4:15 - The review
5:05 - Bane
7:10 - Mad hatter
9:10 - The ventriloquist
11:25 - Victor szasz
13:20 - Killer croc
14:30 - Joker & Scarecrow
16:35 - Firefly
17:45 - The riddler
19:30 - Poison Ivy
20:40 - Two face
23:05 - Conclusion
"Knightfall" is one of my favorite Batman stories, so it's disappointing when reviewers usually just talk about the Bane and Azreal portions. Batman having to take down his deadliest foes one at a time is part of what makes this arc so great. I'm very glad you discussed the smaller portions of the saga.
Since you didn't mention it, what did you think of "God of Fear"? A great Scarecrow story in my opinion.
6:44 It really is a pity they never thought to do a similar type of story with Black Mask, having him come to believe Bruce Wayne's public persona is a metaphorical mask hiding something and discovering Batman's secret identity.
I'm talking classic Black Mask, not skull-face, sadist Black Mask.
Personally I prefer Poison Ivy as a self-righteous ecoterrorist over the green focused anti-hero she's written as now. In particular when Swamp Thing and poison Ivy are supposed to be contrasting characters.
Oh god I just nerdgasm'd!!!! I LOVE Knightfall, and its even better that my favourite UA-camr is reviewing the series! I'd love to see the part 2 and 3. In my opinion, this is one of the best stories in the Batman universe to date, the sheer terror that comes from knowing that all of Gotham's rogues have escaped is absolutely amazing, and the fact that Bane breaks Bruce's back is so... I don't know how to put it? Cool?!? XD
Anyway, you know the deal, great f*cking video as always, and I was so glad this was a 25 minute video!!!!!! These longer videos are great as they always contain great synopses and analyses from you! Keep em coming brother!
Haha thank you very much! ;) Yeah the back breaking is a seminal part of Batman's history. I was going to talk about it more inthe video, but it got long enoug as is.. I'm glad you guys enjoy these long videos becasue they're a sh*t ton of work.. :P
Bro... You know what sets you apart from the other Comic book channels is that you don't read the dialogues in filmy style like in theatres... But you do give it an cinematic atmospheric quality to it... Through background music... Slown zoom and pans and especially your slow narration over crisp comic panels... Hats off to you for that... And also your opening music.👌😉🎶🎶🎶🎧❤️👍😘😎😎
Makes me wish someone would write a similar story for the flash. All the criminals break out of iron heights, flash and kid flash race all over the city to recapture them all and the mystery villain behind the break out (grodd) reveals himself, confronts barry out of costume and nearly kills him. Rest of the story focuses on wally (original and new 52 version) as they battle grodd, who has taken over central city, while barry is recovering. Throughout the arc, we get spotlight stories on each member of the Rogues as they operate on their own, as there are very few stories about the Rogues individually (aside from some Geoff johns issues and stories from the bronze and silver age). We also get a new Backstory for gorilla grodd, depicting him as a more sympathetic figure.
His bloodlust stems from losing his mate to poachers, who took her to a government lab, where she was subjected to painful experiments. This was after gaining their intelligence, and creating gorilla city.
He tracks down the scientists and force them to take him to her. In a scene straight from star wars ep 2, grodd finds his mate, but she is already dead. The only thing that remains is her cage. Grodd goes into a rage, kills the scientists and vows to conquer the human world, for all of his kind. However, the flash stops him and their rivalry begins. This leads to the events of the main series, where grodd uses the criminals of central to weaken flash and once barry is exhausted, grodd will strike.
The title of this story is Blitzkrieg and it is the definitive grodd story.
Tao Jones T.jones that's a genius idea 😃
That's a great idea maybe in that same story we could see a team up of reverse flash and Hunter zoloman AKA. Zoom
Tayo Jones sounds pretty good but that last bit makes you sound like a narcissist lol
@@jordanhorne1173 Excuse me?! How is sharing my own fucking story of a Knight Fall style tale for Flash make me a narcissist?! And yes I changed my account name!
I love Joker and Scarecrows team up. Like you I absolutely love when they work together, wish there were more stories with them together.
gotham rogue uploaded: YES
25 minute video: YESSSS
NIGHTFALL STORYLINE: FUCK YESSSSSSSSS!
I would love to see another mass-breakout of the Bat-Rogues at some point that is treated with just as much respect as this one was, if not more so, if only because it would be nice to see more modern writers (Paul Dini, Gail Simone, Tom King, etc...) tackle such a storyline.
That could be cool yeah. As long as each of the rogues gets their time to shine. The core ones atleast.
Arkham war was similar I wish I didn't sell them with my fodder books :(
Right now a lot of the time it seems like people use Arkham breakouts as plot-fodder and have Batman take them down very quickly, which isn’t very realistic considering that one on one the villains usually give him trouble. It seems like Knightfall is one of the only stories that got that right. It honestly doesn’t bother me too much though, but it happens in Kings of Fear #1 and Batman #70 in recent memory
The eternal weekly series in the new 52 did a mass breakout, though it doesn't happen until later in the run
If they made an Arkham game based on Knightfall they'd have to portray Bane similarly to how he was in Arkham Origins. I love the idea of having to play through the Wayne Manor fight between Batman and Bane which ends up in the Batcave. It would be an unwinnable fight obviously where no matter what you do Bane still breaks Batman's back.
Completely agree, it Could be a sequel to origins
Awesome review as always man! Keep up the amazing work! Your the best comic book channel ever!
Thanks Danny!
If I were to ever do a full dub of a comic it would be these sections of knight fall, really such a great plethora of characters to voice
Really late comment, but I could easily see that motherly version of Ivy from that one comic you mentioned be the perfect version of her to go up against the Mad Hatter. Maybe one if the kids with her, or even her own plant-grown kids resembles Alice, prompting those two into conflict?
Greetings friend!
You should do a Top list of some of the darkest Batman stories.
There are quite a number of them: Batman Tenses, Gotham by Midnight, etc...
Nice vid!
Greetings Mr Oscuro!
Yeah might do something like that, or maybe a '5 best Batman horror stories' video.
This was a great review of the villains of this arc that I hold so dear. I've reread it many times and it has gotten me through some rough patches as a something to distract myself with.
Also, I am a big Jason Voorhees fan so I'm going to go watch the video you promoted in the beginning. I have yet to actually dive into Nightmare Gallery so it should be a good starting point for me.
Thanks! Hope you enjoy the Gallery, even though there aint that much in it yet..
Gotham Rogues it's no problem. I see that a lot of people are giving you shit about it but don't sweat it too badly it's just how fans are. Many don't seem to realize that it's just one guy, with his own things to deal with, handling these channels. I'm sure it will develop just Like Gotham Rogues has. There's a lot to work with there.
Maybe you could find another individual to help that is likeminded in tastes and is willing to follow your original style?
I can't believe i haven't read this comic yet . It looks bad ass. Don't wanna miss out . I'll read this someday.
Knightfall is my favorite Batman story. Period.
Same
First of all: somehow I either missed the fact you've made a horror-themed channel, or worse yet, forgot. MUST SUBSCRIBE!
Second of all: I really like the way you went through this story rogue-by-rogue (not unlike Batman, come to think of it), looking at how each one is portrayed and how their respective tales and arcs fit into the overarching series. I've actually always wanted to see somebody tackle Knightfall this way, looking at the various characters (especially the villains, because they are such a big part of this arc, in particular) and how they fit into the story like puzzle pieces. And, for the most part, I think I agree with your feelings on the whole...excepting Bane. Rather than "a cowardly cheater," what I got out of his plan was something much more strategic. Let's consider this very briefly: if he's become so obsessed with Batman, then Bane probably knows the Dark Knight has taken on opponents almost as strong, if not equally strong, if not STRONGER, than Bane himself. He knows that Batman may not be a physical match, but definitely has some mental chops to him that could aid him. By weakening Batman this way, he taunts Batman with his own mortality, tests just how far the man can go, and more importantly, assures himself victory. He thinks like a soldier: you DON'T want to give the enemy a fighting chance. You want to find the best way to defeat them, plain and simple. And, if you're an intimidating and sadistic villain on top of that, getting a chance to topple them so utterly and rub in their faces how "disappointing" they are is just your cup of tea.
Anyway, other than that, like I said, I feel I agree with you wholeheartedly as far as how the other major rogues are depicted, as well as how their stories go. I've been waiting a while on this review, and it didn't disappoint! Honestly, I think it's one of your best videos yet. So bravo to you! :)
Haha ;)
interesting point of view! Another commenter said basically the same thing. I guess I havent really considered the 'strategic military' aspect of the character. Not sure why, it's certainly displayed in Dark Knight Rises, especially as a visual motiff. I've never been that crazy about Bane, just like Ra's al Ghul, so maybe that's why I havent thought too deeply about him. Anyway, thanks for the input!
Glad you think it's one of my best videos, it makes it worthwhile, becasue this one was a b*tch to make too.. It's these damn long ones.. :P
So, the question is: how could Knightfall be adapted into an animated movie??? What were the strengths & weaknesses to this storyline??
I think its well shown that Bane is a Strategist to a high degree and that he had to use his head so yeah that shows bane as a better character in this arc
I seriously think this can make a great T.V. show.
Man, I loved that Arkham Asylum game.
I can't believe they made a comic of it.
Lmao nice bait
Great video ! I'm just wondering what your opinion is on the scarecrow story shortly after the Harvey one I believe. Its been awhile since I read it, but I'm pretty sure it was connected to the whole events from Knightfall. I remember it being one of my favorite Scarecrow stories, though a lot of it may have had to do with the art and the fact I wasn't really that satisfied with his whole section previously with the Joker. It, along with Zsasz and the Ventriloquist's stories were my favorites.
Sorry,Correction to my last post. just re read the whole Knightfall part, totally forgot Scarecrow and Joker broke up after Batman was already broken, and that it was Jean Paul who fought him in God of Fear. Still Interested in what you thought of it though. Also I take back about not being satisfied with the whole Joker & Scarecrow team up. Idk why I didn't like it when I first read it, but I really liked them together this time around. Its fun to see Crane more carefree and just eating a bag of chips while trying to bring Gotham to his knees. Really besides Poison Ivy's section, I really loved the stories with all the other rogues, even Two-Face, even if its placement kind of screws things up.
2:15 Bane Makes Batman Scream.
I think the idea behind Bane's fight with Batman is that he considers it a battle of strategy, not a matter of a fair fight between combatants. He's always had a vague military/commando aspect to him, anyway, and he studied such things while in prison - so it makes sense for him to plan it all out like a military campaign, with Batman as the opposing 'general'. And going by that logic, it IS sort of a fair fight - he made the first attack by blowing up Arkham, then waited for his opponent to counter it, which he was unable to. Ergo, he beats the crap out of him and wins.
Incidentally, I was wondering - do you know if 'Knightfall' has been fully collected as of yet? I mean, I know the main part of the storyline has been available in TPB form for years - I own them - but they don't include either the 'prelude' bits (where Bats fights the Riddler, first meets Bane, Azrael fights the 'Metalhead' goon, etc.) or the main part of the 'Knightquest' follow-up, prior to Bruce meeting up with Lady Shiva. Are there any editions that collect those parts, that you're aware of?
Interesting point of view! I like it!
No sorry, I don't know if such editions excist. The volumes I have, the ones from 2012, do not include those extra parts. I think they released new volumes last year, or maybe earlier this year. Maybe those include them.
Curses! Oh, well, I'll keep looking. Thanks anyway.
I have read the entire story arc on getcomics.info.all the bits are there.
Maybe this storyline can be modified like the other DC animated movies if Knightfall can be made in a two-parter animated movie.
Batman knightfall was my first 600 page book I have ever read and I love Batman 90's art
Your voice is also😊 very relaxing
Thanks ;)
Just rewatched this. I wish you would go back and do another review of knightfall but this time go over the main story. You said there's a lot of other channels that have done this but I do not see any. There's a couple of people standing in front of a camera who talk about the story while holding the comic book but that isn't a video review that I would want to watch you know. Hope you think about doing an overall review of knightfall
This is one of the best Batman storylines of all time, not only does it feature all the classic villains, but also feature some newer obscure villains, like corrosive man, gunhawk, and the tally-man.
Yea more videos
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I think you are looking at this wrong. Bane isnt like Solomon Grundy or Killer Croc who are just all brawn no brains. Bane is an intelligent and cunning man. Bane knew that defeating batman takes both brains and muscle. I think it is totally reasonable and justified that he would do something like this. To show that he is mentally superior as well as physically.
Really loved your video. Knightfall is my favorite Batman story arc!!
Thanks Shade!
any plans for no mans land? or legacy?
i dont think its cheating of how bane wine beacues he knows that no other rough was able to beat him with brains or bronds pluse bane all ready knows that he is stronger then batman so he just proved to be smarter as well
Coincidentally enough I'm making a batman movie called Batman Rise of Knightfall and it is basically about what the movie title says, the rise of the Knightfall story
Some pains don't fade, and can strike years later.
I had this as a kid when it came out the whole story line all the other batmans that take over for batman after bane brakes his back
I like how every subsequent encounter with Bane, Batman pretty much kicks his ass
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Imagine a world where Batman swallowed his pride, and called in Superman. In my, admittedly silly, imagination, Clark faces bane in Batman's costume, and, venom powered or not, Bane breaks his leg on Superman's spine when bringing it down on his knee.
Babbleplay It’s not about pride, it’s a Batman storyline. Why would other heroes be featured in it
@@j-money2295 Honestly, all for the idea of Bane raising "Batman" up over his head, bringing him sharply down on his knee, and CRACK, broken leg.
@@j-money2295 That, and, it kind of is about pride. These lunatic criminals are all on the loose, and lives are in danger. The other heroes exist, and Batman has the means to contact them. We all love Batman, but, doing all that himself was not a smart idea for his, or the city's best interests.
Guys, Superman was dead during Knightall, remember?? It makes perfect sense
Ahhhh my favorite UA-camr 😎, Do you think you might be able to do a top five bane stories soon?
Thanks! ;) Well I've got a few others planned first but I'll get to him eventually!
Great job men, are you going to do reviews for Knightquest and KnightsEnd?
No plans, but you never know.
Gotham Rogues yes. Please do it
What is that little bit of music before all of your videos?
Do you have any plans to review nightfall part 2 and 3?
No but I may end up doing that in the future anyway.
I'm happy that Vengence of Bane comes with the Kindle version of Knightfall
Will you be making videos on the Knightquest and KnightsEnd story arcs soon?
Great video as always
Loved the video as always! Speaking of "The Cult", would you review it? Thanks!
I'll probably get around to it eventually.
Gotham Rogues Awesome and thanks again?
I just finished this storyline. Batman also faced Cavalier in knightfall but only in one page or so. Got boring after bane broke his back. Loved seeing all the different villains. Just wished tweedle dee and dumb was in the story, and maybe a few others. Arkham war was similar but it was short and got boring fast I just liked seeing all the villains . I also didn't care for the two face show case books. Been better of it showed them in order like the others instead of a backflash.
you should do a review of the spinner
By the way, great review of Knightfall
Wow nightfall has like nine different stories all going on simultaneously lol
"He is not man enough to beat him in his prime" lmao 🤣
I feel like Bane wore Batman out because he wanted to destroy his fear. Bane was terrified of Bats and Batman was the sort of living embodiment of his fear. If people had the ability to destroy their feared creatures who would actually want a fair fight? I’m gonna be real here if I had to fight a clown I would find ways to beat the clown quickly so I don’t have to deal with it for too long. I don’t want a fair fight for that... I don’t want the clown to have a chance for an upper hand. Unhoborable or not.
Already you know Batman is in deep shit here. 😂
What is your horror channel? I would love to hear more reviews.
Rogue's Nightmare Gallery.
Thank you!
we briefly see Maxie Zeus, and the Cavalier
Gotham rogues you should do scarecrow new 52 plz
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I feel like they based the new adventures Batman Joker off of the Victor zsazs design
I miss you mr rogues
Discussing The Riddler: "Narcissistic need for attention" this perfectly describes my ex-girlfriend.
Actually in I Am Bane. After Bane defeats all of Batmans rogues he didnt seem any where near as tired as batman was in knightfall. And it didnt take him 3 days to do it either.
the third robin needs a moives and this is that movie
Do you know where I can buy some comics I am from sweden.
Jadu det finns ju Adlibris, Bokus och CDON på internet. Dom säljer tpbs och hardcovers.. Dock bara nytryckt. Vill du ha äldre grejer som inte finns i tryck längre så får du beställa från USA eller England. Jag brukar hålla mig till Mycomicshop.com för sånt.
Okej.
please do a video on egghead PLEEEEASE
Youre wondering how he has been beating up bad guys for 10years when he has been batman for more than 20 years and more tham 70years in our time.
Viktorija Ilesku ...i also never understood that batman time frame either and been collecting batman when Jason Todd was killed. Till this date i never knew why no one got older such such as the Robins etc. But now with the rebirth series and new 52 that past....everything is suppossed to be new again. I still love these older issues for some reason...but the wish Batman was older.
Robd collector It’s comics, nobody wants to see there favorite characters get old
I think croc should win against bane. Imo
Bane is a coward he waited till Bruce was at his weakest to face him he should've fought him at his strongest
Why did ventriloquist have amygdala as a henchman when blockbuster could have worked just fine?
Blockbuster I was dead at that point, and Blockbuster II was too smart to be manipulated, plus he was busy being the biggest crime lord in Blüdhaven at the time.
I never liked the Knightfall storyline. It seemed like such an obvious money grab, along the lines of "Death of Superman." I don't think Kelley Jones's art is a good match for Batman. Jim Aparo's art is usually great but only when he does his own inks. That so many different artists with varying styles were used also prevented an overall consistent feel for the saga imo. The only thing I liked about Knightfall era was the introduction of Azrael. I don't believe the "Sword of Azrael" min-series by Denny O'Neil is included in the omnibuses. Is it? I also think the theme of breaking Batman had already been explored in "Blind Justice" by Sam Hamm, a much superior story imo.
I personally feel like the art style works quite well, but i agree about the inconsistency of artstyle was a bit of an issue for me as well. What exactly makes "blind justice" better than the knightfall series? Ive never read it but id like to read it.
I like the first volume of knightfall a lot personally but i dislike knightquest volume one honestly (Azrael is just too much of an idiot as batman). Im about to read volume 2, hopefully its better.
Edit: I also dislike Kelley Jones's coverart, it just looks weird to me.
@@TheKingmarshmaalo Why is Blind Justice better? For one thing: conciseness
You forgot Maxie Zeus.
He ran into a tree. There.
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Your voice sounds like a Batman villain lmfao
I AM a Batman villain.
Don't talk like that
Just dumb Comic book writers. Lol thx