Very unfair indeed. There’s no way you can make the old 130R safe enough by modern standards. Heck, even the current 130R has seen some massive crashes this past year.
I really appreciate these types of videos because it shows the difference in how these different types of cars can take high speed turns but also displays how fast each car is going before the turn.........I think doing something similar at the kink at Road America would be good as well
Hypercar and gt500 are very similar, a lap time comparision on le mans would be cool Also a comparison between gt3 and gt2 on le mans would be good Nice video 👍
The Hypercar is way faster on the straights and highspeed corners. The GT500 is faster on the brakes, slow- and mid speed stuff. Overall the GT500 are bit faster. Just tenths though
@kai325d3 No it wasn't. The Non Hybrid LMP1 is still multiple seconds a lap faster then a Hypercars or the GT500. A Rebellion, Ginetta or SMP had 70-100hp more then a GT 500, were over 150kg lighter and had more downforce.
The cup car they show is probably a solid benchmark for estimation. Pretty much any Nascar sanctioned series is gonna do roughly that. I imagine the trucks would probably fair the worst due to the inherently mid (at best) aero of a truck. And that’s assuming the driver is half decent and doesn’t turn too fast for the tires and holds some semblance of traction all the way through.
i think a video of 3 cars from as many series, with as many cars as you can possibly do on a track that is kind of an even playing field between top speed and cornering would be a fun watch, make it an endurance race as well to show the differences in tire wear and fuel consumption of the various cars, classes and series
I think a video where you take a classic twisty track (Mosport for example) and see how many of the corners *aren't* flat out for modern F1 and IndyCar could be fun.
I'm not sure what the reason for the name is but I feel the need to clarify that radius is the distance from the center of the curve, so it can be measured in meters, feet or other units of distance; meanwhile degrees measure angles of curvature
Can you do comparison between current Sports Prototype series with these cars : 1) Le Mans Hypercar 2) LMDh (although they race in the same category in WEC and IMSA, their technical regulations are different) 3) LMP2 4) LMP3 5) FIA Group CN 6) Group CM 7) Sports 2000 8) SCCA Clubman 9) Spec Ford
2:11 Formula Rord 😂 3:51 GTE : Oh no i become Ocon 4:06 GT2 : I can't turn!! 4:25 GT3 : Just like you GTE 4:41 GT4 : Dammit! 5:00 Porsche cup : My tyres are at -200 Degrees! 5:20 TCR : Ah crap i'm Ocon but nothing happens 5:36 BTCC : Get back on the track... 5:51 Stock car Brazil : I'm too fat to turn!! 6:09 Supercar : Noooo! My car too! 6:28 TAZ : (Censored)! 6:49 Nascar Cup : I ate too much McDonalds 7:08 Garage 56 : I'm enjoying McDonalds too much! 7:26 SRX : I have simple downforce but not enough to keep me flat out 7:47 Aussie Racing Car : No x12 better not the walls 8:04 Rally1 : See? I have speed cap so i won't into the walls
Why is everybody still getting Hypercar Powernumbers wrong.... they do have 500-520kW so 680-707hp. Yes. BUT: that's Wheel Power. For every other car the power claim is power at the Clutch. So either put down the roughly 800hp a hypercars actually has, or reduce the claims of the other cars by gearbox losses.
@THEWINDTUNNEL For one. In the regulations. They are publicly available. Also racecar engineering. Or any credible publication on the matter. For the LMDh/GTP cars they even made the gearbox losses public, 15%, so we do know precisely how much engine power they have. The Acura is the most powerful in 2024, with 520kw at the wheels, thats 611,8kW/832,1hp at the Clutch .
@THEWINDTUNNEL as you can see by the citation from the ACO/FIA/IMSA LMH Regulation Appendix 5.1.2 power is measured at the wheels. That means excluding gearbox losses. The BoP uses wheel power. Ergo engine power is 15% higher then the BoP Power stated for each car.
A GT2 isn't faster than a GT3 (the names are extremely confusing, I konw) they have more power but a lot less aero. They also have more aggressive driving aids as they were designed for amateur drivers.
Could you share the links to the mods with us? Looks like Asetto Corsa to me and I would be hyped to race the Garage 56 Camaro or some others myself:.. Thanks in Advance! :)
Indycar's top speed is wrong again. You seem to be giving the series top speed for every other series and super specific with Indycar by giving the top speed for the road course package. Either you should be more specific with the other series, or be more general with the Indycar.
suggestion: "What amount of G-Force which racing serie has at 31' Degrees curves in Daytona?" PLSSSS make that, i don't know if it is really 31',, do it plss!! love ur content! hello from Brazil!🇧🇷🇧🇷🔥
Fun fact i have gone through el rouge radion complex in a nascar stock car flatout just to prove its possible some people didn't count it because my line was super compromised and would tick off F1 officials but i didn't care as i came close to the inside of radions wall missing it by near inches at 7500 rpm 3rd gear XD
Неправильная траектория входа в поворот, поэтому и вылеты. Если в замедленном посмотреть, видно, что автор сильно раньше начинает поворачивать, чем нужно, более того, зачем-то в повороте начинает бросать руль на апексе. В некоторых случаях можно было бы избежать вылета (правда, не в случае Nascar, там ничего не поможет).
@THEWINDTUNNEL Therefore you should adjust the F1 and F2 top speeds. Because F1 don't do 360km/h even at Monza these days - more in the 330 km/h region at best. And an Indy Car at Monza would be more than 320km/h.
not gonna lie considering how much of a dog those formula E tyres are, im surprised it went flat through there lol(although to be fair the car is very light and has decent aero)
What's your favourite racing series?
I think Rally 1 or the Group C
I think Rally 1 or the Group C
I think Rally 1 or the Group C
I love Group C and DTM in the 90's
NASCAR baby!
2:23 ALL HAIL THE Formula RORD
OUR LORD AND SAVIOR FORMULA RORD
@@idkimbored279FORMULA RORD
I love that the G meter shows that the nascar cup car had already crashed before it had even reached 130R
It gets affected by the tire slip when they hit the sand, not sure why
The 2003 reprofiling of 130R basically changed it from an actual corner to a typical Tilke kink.
hermann tilke on his way to take the life out of every FIA grade 1 race track:
That's a bit unfair
Usually the greatest overtakes are done at that corner and it requires precision
Very unfair indeed. There’s no way you can make the old 130R safe enough by modern standards. Heck, even the current 130R has seen some massive crashes this past year.
The stock car&touring car pilots deserve tons of respect for being able to handle those metal boxes
FORMULA ROARRRRRRRRR
Formula e : eeeeeeEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeee
I really appreciate these types of videos because it shows the difference in how these different types of cars can take high speed turns but also displays how fast each car is going before the turn.........I think doing something similar at the kink at Road America would be good as well
Yeah, I'll definitely do one with the Kink
Hypercar and gt500 are very similar, a lap time comparision on le mans would be cool
Also a comparison between gt3 and gt2 on le mans would be good
Nice video 👍
I think GT2 and GT3 at Le mans would be even lap time wise. Gt2 is way faster in the straights.
The Hypercar is way faster on the straights and highspeed corners. The GT500 is faster on the brakes, slow- and mid speed stuff. Overall the GT500 are bit faster. Just tenths though
GT500 was faster than the non-hybrid LMP1s so they are on Hypercar level
@kai325d3 No it wasn't. The Non Hybrid LMP1 is still multiple seconds a lap faster then a Hypercars or the GT500. A Rebellion, Ginetta or SMP had 70-100hp more then a GT 500, were over 150kg lighter and had more downforce.
@@kai325d3in Fuji, the GT500 were like 10 seconds slower than LMP1s
The usage of CBell was fitting given how the cup car went right into the wall
Yeah, he definitely tried the high line here
Can you use Turismo Carretera or Top Race cars in your future videos? I love watching your videos, they are amazing, greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
Kinda disappointed that Xfinity and Trucks weren’t in the video but it was super cool to see SRX!
The cup car they show is probably a solid benchmark for estimation. Pretty much any Nascar sanctioned series is gonna do roughly that. I imagine the trucks would probably fair the worst due to the inherently mid (at best) aero of a truck. And that’s assuming the driver is half decent and doesn’t turn too fast for the tires and holds some semblance of traction all the way through.
i think a video of 3 cars from as many series, with as many cars as you can possibly do on a track that is kind of an even playing field between top speed and cornering would be a fun watch, make it an endurance race as well to show the differences in tire wear and fuel consumption of the various cars, classes and series
Can you do 2000s JGTC vs modern super GT. Both gt300 and gt500 class
I love this videos, keep going like this, you are awesome
Thank you so so much buddy, really appreciate it!
I think a video where you take a classic twisty track (Mosport for example) and see how many of the corners *aren't* flat out for modern F1 and IndyCar could be fun.
Hey thanks for keep putting the stock car Brasil in Your videos, in 2025 they Will start using SUVs
7:18 SRX is just a meme now 😂
Super Formula and GT500 are very impressive!
formula rord we trust chain
Why is it called 130r
The original version of the corner was 130 degree radius but it’s not that tight anymore since the Allen mcnish crash in 2002
@WezMan444, qthat was a big one, I watched it..
Amazing, he walked away..
I'm not sure what the reason for the name is but I feel the need to clarify that radius is the distance from the center of the curve, so it can be measured in meters, feet or other units of distance; meanwhile degrees measure angles of curvature
130 meter radius, not degrees
Because is taken at 130 km/h
And its a right corner...
Can you do comparison between current Sports Prototype series with these cars :
1) Le Mans Hypercar
2) LMDh (although they race in the same category in WEC and IMSA, their technical regulations are different)
3) LMP2
4) LMP3
5) FIA Group CN
6) Group CM
7) Sports 2000
8) SCCA Clubman
9) Spec Ford
I watched it with my cat laying on me. He was really scared by the sound of the formula e car 😁
That's hilarious
2:11 Formula Rord 😂
3:51 GTE : Oh no i become Ocon
4:06 GT2 : I can't turn!!
4:25 GT3 : Just like you GTE
4:41 GT4 : Dammit!
5:00 Porsche cup : My tyres are at -200 Degrees!
5:20 TCR : Ah crap i'm Ocon but nothing happens
5:36 BTCC : Get back on the track...
5:51 Stock car Brazil : I'm too fat to turn!!
6:09 Supercar : Noooo! My car too!
6:28 TAZ : (Censored)!
6:49 Nascar Cup : I ate too much McDonalds
7:08 Garage 56 : I'm enjoying McDonalds too much!
7:26 SRX : I have simple downforce but not enough to keep me flat out
7:47 Aussie Racing Car : No x12 better not the walls
8:04 Rally1 : See? I have speed cap so i won't into the walls
Hillarious 😂😂😂
@@THEWINDTUNNEL lol
Ahh the famous high speed corner at Suzuka! 🤘
As expected, American cars cant cope a turn lol
Ooooo the gen3 supercar ^-^ where did you get that if i may ask?
It's a GT4 Camaro with custom Supercar physics. It's not available unfortunately
What will happen if we put the IndyCar, but with the oval aerodinamic pack?
Hmmm 🤔 It would be very close
@@THEWINDTUNNEL the same thing I was thinking but in eau rouge
Love how the Aussie cars look like toys😂
I have a photo of 1 next to either mark 1 or mark 2 escort and the escort dwarfs it in size
Where did you get the new Supercars Camaro
nice! now do "which race cars can take Monza T1 FLAT out?"
Next time try the CanAm series at the last corner of Zandvoort or the high speed sector 1 at Mugello
Shoutout Jacob Abel in Indy NXT🫡
Why is everybody still getting Hypercar Powernumbers wrong.... they do have 500-520kW so 680-707hp. Yes. BUT: that's Wheel Power. For every other car the power claim is power at the Clutch. So either put down the roughly 800hp a hypercars actually has, or reduce the claims of the other cars by gearbox losses.
Are you sure about that? Where have you seen it?
@THEWINDTUNNEL For one. In the regulations. They are publicly available. Also racecar engineering. Or any credible publication on the matter. For the LMDh/GTP cars they even made the gearbox losses public, 15%, so we do know precisely how much engine power they have. The Acura is the most powerful in 2024, with 520kw at the wheels, thats 611,8kW/832,1hp at the Clutch .
@THEWINDTUNNEL as you can see by the citation from the ACO/FIA/IMSA LMH Regulation Appendix 5.1.2 power is measured at the wheels. That means excluding gearbox losses. The BoP uses wheel power. Ergo engine power is 15% higher then the BoP Power stated for each car.
Banger of a video!
Thank you!
Hypercars round Suzuka would be lit
Amazing how much downforce GT500 has compared to all other GT classes
Got surprised by TCR, BTCC and Rally1.
Surprise by Rally1?
They take much more tighter corner flat out.
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The Rally1 got there relatively slow. The touring cars (both FWD) had some oversteer which helped a lot
Great video, 👍 👌
Thank you!
Which F4 car did you use? And Formula Regional
2:23 why does it say formula Rord?
5:00 turned in very early
Whats Formula Ford and Taz? I cant seem to be able to find those racing series on youtub e
The taz you mentioned is called TA 2 cars and they race in TheTransAM series type the series name in the UA-cam search bar you should see it
ahh i see thanks, any idea about formula ford too?@@taylortnt1175
@@taylortnt1175 ahh I see, thanks 😁
@@speed2567 np
Simply the Formula RORD of entertainment
Does someone have a link for the Camaro V8 Supercars? Can’t find it anywhere. Would be nice.
I really wanna get the aussie racing car mod but can't find it anywhere
You are wild for trying it with a NASCAR hahaha even though it is a left hand corner lol
can you do something on IROC? it was a racing series from 1974-2009
Yeah sure! Loved IROC!
A little bit of drift for the TCR, and how a GT3 car can take better 130R than a GT2 car?
A GT2 isn't faster than a GT3 (the names are extremely confusing, I konw) they have more power but a lot less aero. They also have more aggressive driving aids as they were designed for amateur drivers.
f-ford typo
Could you share the links to the mods with us? Looks like Asetto Corsa to me and I would be hyped to race the Garage 56 Camaro or some others myself:.. Thanks in Advance! :)
Maybe 100R on fuji next?
cna you tell me where you find all these mods like indy nxt and formula regional?
how did you get the garage 56 nascar
What Simulation is being used here is it like iRacing or Asetto Corsa??
Assetto Corsa
@THEWINDTUNNEL Ah Thank You!, keep up the great work and have a great day
Awesome! What’s the app on top left with the actual car as icon?
It's CSP's radar app
6:46
Indycar's top speed is wrong again. You seem to be giving the series top speed for every other series and super specific with Indycar by giving the top speed for the road course package. Either you should be more specific with the other series, or be more general with the Indycar.
What's the potential indycar top speed ?
All the big V8 stuff: Nope.
This is the 130R 2003- currently. The real 130R was until 2002.
My ears got hurt when I heard that formula e car😭
Linking mods would be nice, no?
Gt500 👌
What is the Indy Nxt mod?
You can dind it on URD's page. It's free
What if Formula 1 in 2023 used THE SAME ENGINE as in 2014 (they were approx. 150 BHP weaker than now)
The f1 cars r laughing in the background...
i love formula rord 2:20
The game is Assesto Corsa ?
Where can I find the G meter mod?
On Racedepartment.com
No turismo carretera :(
suggestion: "What amount of G-Force which racing serie has at 31' Degrees curves in Daytona?" PLSSSS make that, i don't know if it is really 31',, do it plss!! love ur content! hello from Brazil!🇧🇷🇧🇷🔥
Interesting 🤔... Thank you, love Brazil, lot's of viewers from there! 🇧🇷❤️
What is the name of the game?
Assetto Corsa
Link for the G56?
It's no longer available
Mod for Porsche supercup?
unitedracingdesign.sellfy.store/p/ac-darche-cup-2021/
Fun fact i have gone through el rouge radion complex in a nascar stock car flatout just to prove its possible some people didn't count it because my line was super compromised and would tick off F1 officials but i didn't care as i came close to the inside of radions wall missing it by near inches at 7500 rpm 3rd gear XD
Mate talking like he acc drives
Name of the mod?
Indy goes beyond 390KM!! 240mph so what happened or what spec you're using?
He's using the road course version, only the oval setups do 200+MPH, different design for different circuit types
@@scalemodelbuilder9510 and now that configuration is only used at Indy.
What’s the actual track name?
Suzuka International Circuit (Japan)
What sim is this?
Assetto Corsa
Assetto Corsa
I do like Formula Rord
What is formula Hord?
You didn't write it well either 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Holdup... Are u sure this is not irl?
Are you? 🤔😂
@@THEWINDTUNNEL Your graphics are amazing dude! The intro, with the redbull f1 car was amazing
What game was this on btw?
Assetto Corsa (PC)
Неправильная траектория входа в поворот, поэтому и вылеты. Если в замедленном посмотреть, видно, что автор сильно раньше начинает поворачивать, чем нужно, более того, зачем-то в повороте начинает бросать руль на апексе. В некоторых случаях можно было бы избежать вылета (правда, не в случае Nascar, там ничего не поможет).
Formula Rord, don't worry, I know is Formula Ford
poor rally 1 screaming barely past 120 🤣
That formula e was like nails on a chalkboard
You spelled Ford wrong
But he spelled Rord right.
Omg the formula rord
次は130rが本当に130rだった頃のコースレイアウトで歴代F1マシンを使って検証して欲しいです
Clearly hypercar makes more downforce than gt500
What is this game?
Assetto Corsa
Name game?
Assetto Corsa (with various mods)
you are setting wrong gt cars
Indycar top speed of 320? They average like 360 on the ovals.
This is road course car
@THEWINDTUNNEL Therefore you should adjust the F1 and F2 top speeds. Because F1 don't do 360km/h even at Monza these days - more in the 330 km/h region at best. And an Indy Car at Monza would be more than 320km/h.
Carrinho da stock car foi lá pra casa do crlh
I think the F1 has less of 1050 HP
1050 hp in qualy mode, but definitely less in race mode
not gonna lie considering how much of a dog those formula E tyres are, im surprised it went flat through there lol(although to be fair the car is very light and has decent aero)
Destroying cars in the name of scientific experiment. 👍
Formula Rord 💀
formula rord