Satanic Material Forces School To Stop Giving Bibles
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- A Colorado school district has decided not to hand out Gideon Bibles to students anymore. This decision comes after they were forced to also hand out atheist and Satanic material. Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian, Jimmy Dore, Jaime Camil, hosts of The Young Turks discuss.
Should public schools be handing out religious material? Let us know in the comments below.
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“A Colorado school district that allowed Gideon Bibles to be distributed to students wants to remove religion from its schools after it was forced to also make atheist and Satanic literature available.
The Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) explained earlier this month that it had asked the Delta County School District to begin handing out “freethought materials” after the district refused to stop distributing Bibles to students.
“The School District is not required to maintain this open forum and is free to close it rather than allow FFRF to distribute materials,” FFRF attorney Andrew Seidel wrote in a March 3 letter to the Delta County School District. “We do not think schools should be a battleground for religious ideas. But when schools allow the Gideons to prey on children, their message of eternal damnation for any who don’t believe in their God must be countered.”
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Satanism in school... finally a class that sounds interesting, fun, and will piss off a lot of people. I'm in.
I'll join you
._.
nickbenkster Thats a common misconception cooked up by ignorant fools. People have killed in the name of Satan (for a number of reasons) or have used Satan as an excuse for them murdering people. Real human sacrifices are incredibly rare and not limited to satanics. Animal sacrifice is more common though it means nothing as that is quite common in many religions including Christianity.
+nickbenkster what's to teach? you say "hail satan" and push the bitch into the fire
andrew j wolf Like Christianity, satanism has its orthodox factions and a number of spin-offs and interpretations. Although most would consist of being aggressively atheistic, using Satan's origin as an opposer to show resentment towards mainstream religion. Many dont even consider Satan a deity at all, just a symbol of something that rebelled against the normality of society. So basically the majority of satanics are anarchistic atheists.
The Satanic Temple is the best troll ever
Amen
+Kaya David Sosa
Shouldn't that be "Nema" ("Amen" backwards)?
+Inkswitch the Unicorn I always love hearing stories about them screwing with christians that go too far like this story. :D
Haha... we must learn from them, and refine our techniques with the teachings of the masters. 😈
+Inkswitch the Unicorn Lol yeah very true. I just love how this tactic keeps working.
That awkward moment when it turns out that SATAN is the reasonable one.
+S.M Seely Totally true.
hbk711x I'm pretty sure you mean Lucifer. Satan is a totally different deity.
Not surprising if you play Shin Megami Tensei.
The devil has always been portrayed as reasonable it’s part of the trickery and manipulation characteristics.
@@cutedarkarts whatever they both END Up at the same place
I love when it comes to tyt and religion everyone in the comment section stops arguing for a second, and comes together to talk about how absurd religion is.
+Jake Pawlak no thanks.
+Damani5445
Because people are not going after TYT for no reason, and every one agrees that trying to force religion onto kids is wrong. Might it be that the people who give TYT a hard time are not conservatives, but liberals?
@Buddy3439 no, its also the actual liberals as well.
separation of church and state---I guess the "educators" there hadn't heard of it.
+eatmorenachos They don't give a shit about the Constitution or people's rights. Unless there's someone there to stop them.
+eatmorenachos That's sooooooo (partially) European ... eff that.
+Hans “Shockwav3” Meier The American Constitution is European? Wow, you must go to that "school."
Aww, that went perfectly in the wrong direction :( It was an attempt at an ironic comment, considering the religious right/conservative movement is quite strong (or at least verbal) in America. Living in Germany (close to Poland, having a polish flatmate even) I know seperation between church and state is non-existant in some regards in both countries here.
eatmorenachos I think he went to Roger rabbits school of idiots
Score one for the Satanists!
YYEEAAHH
+XMorbidKiX is that you Morbius? wheres Felicia Hardy bro!
+XMorbidKiX HAIL SATAN!
+XMorbidKiX yes
triniti hayes *Points at you* DISGUSTING
religion shouldn't be taught in school period. that's for parents to do
So you rather have your kids be taught satanist values than christians values? ?.
+Juke Tolson that's religion. they wouldn't be taught either xD
+Juke Tolson Yes. Satanism is based on free thinking.
Gabriel DeJoseph With religion it's kinda like rap music it catches very easily I wouldn't want to expose my kids to human sacrifice.
+Juke Tolson TBH if we're talking about getting morals from a book. Satanic vs bible then I'd have to say satanic. If we're going based on cover to cover, and liberal. Then yes. But why take the the lesser of two evils? Especially when none of them exist. There both myths!
Jimmy is COMPLETELY wrong when he claims that America is supposedly the only country with second language learners in public schools. I can't judge for other continents but here in Europe, we have TONS of second language learners in our public schools. In my country, we have up to EIGHTY percent foreigners in some schools in urban areas. These foreigners come from many different places: other western European countries, the middle east, Russia, east Asia, Africa etc.
U.S. public schools do suck and the reason for that is because right wingers in the US government make it impossible for education to get enough money. If America banned private schools and invested as much money in public education as it currently invests in fighting wars all over the world, it could easily have an education system like in Finland.
I agree. The problem of American school aren't second language learners. In fact, according to the last PISA scores (from 2012) reading is the strongest suit of American students.And that line "... when you control for poverty..." makes no sense because US is richer than any of the other countries whose students outperform th US students. However, I do not think that the only problem of American schools is the lack of money but also the poor investment of that money. Money should be invested into students and teachers not stadiums, computers, new buildings etc. All those things are fine but people are more important. Japanese spent less on public education but they pay teachers more and their students achieve some of the best results in the world.
Tripserpentine Could you provide source of that information?
+Tibor Pejic it is unfortunate thst early education is defunded if our kids started earlier when they are forming the foundation of learning it would be better
+Atl .W No, I'm not from the UK, I'm from Switzerland. I said "foreigners" because almost all people in Switzerland who are not white are foreigners. We have a very strict immigration policy (probably the strictest in all of Europe), so most foreigners either don't pass it or don't want to go through the hassle and thus don't get a citizenship. Contrary to America, second-generation immigrants don't get a Swiss passport even if they're born within Switzerland. So most second-generation immigrants are also foreigners. So when you see a person with a Swiss passport, chances are that this person has had his/her citizenship for several generations. Since we've never had slavery and no immigration from Africa/Caribbean/Asia etc. (we didn't have any colonies) we were a very mono-ethnic country until very recently. I'm in my 20s now and when I was a child, I never saw a black/Asian person. I think I saw the first black person in my life when I was 18 or 19. So in my country, "second-language speaker" usually means "foreigner" (except from bilingual kids which have also been very rare until very recently). However, I understand that this is different in other countries and I didn't mean to create a "us vs. them". I'm very tolerant about foreigners or other cultures/ethnicities.
Sorry, I don't know what "urban areas" is code for. I guess it's an American thing? We don't have any other ethnicities in the countryside. The countryside is still very white in Switzerland... .
I don't think foreigners should feel ashamed just because they're foreigners. Maybe the word also has an undeservedly bad connotation. I've lived abroad for abroad in two different countries for 2.5 years, so I was a foreigner there too. My girlfriend is also a foreigner.
We have the problem with the segregation mostly with foreigners from the Balkan region. During the 1990s, we had a huge immigration of people from Albania, Yugoslavia, Serbia, Croatia, Macedonia and so on. These people (along with the Turks who came a little earlier) all formed parallel societies and it can be somewhat annoying. There are people who've been living here for 30 years and still don't speak the local language decently.
And yes, I am very well aware of the fact that English natives are not willing to learn a language when they move to another country. This is also true for Germans, French and most other "big-country-people". Swiss people are a big exception here. In Switzerland we have four official languages and the vast majority of Swiss people is trilingual (or bilingual at the very least). This is true of Professors just as much as cashier ladies at the local grocery store. We're a small country, so we're just so used to communicating in many other languages and we like to accommodate to other people's linguistic needs. For example when a French tourist asks me for the way, I would immediately switch to French for him. So when I lived in these two other countries, I naturally also tried to learn the other languages. However, you are correct that most other nationalities don't do that.
PLEASE keep religion out of school
Please KEEP religion in schools
+joeandgod1 Atheism isn't a religion. If atheism is a religion, then abstinence is a sex position.
+Chris W. Islam? Buddhism? Judaism?
+Chris W. I agree allow Satan in school
+Julius Caesar dude if you haven't tried 'the atheist' position, you haven't lived.
Honestly, when my family first told me about hell, I remember having nightmares, and thought demons were watching me everyday. I still kinda have that fear, even though I'm 24 and see myself as secular/atheist.. Religion should stay in church and church only
shit me to man but not anymore im 15
Lol, I was 4 when I found out about hell, never had a night mare until I was 8, that's because I saw something in my grandmother house which pretty much comfirmed that what the Bible taught was true. I wasn't afraid of hell I was afraid because I didn't know what to do in that situation what I saw horrifying. For people who don't believe I saw anything they can't explain why my no one but my grandmother wanted to be alone in that house. For this reason I think religion should definitely be taught in schools.
+Juke Tolson So your logic is that since you say you saw something magical, everyone else should be forced to have their kids taught your religion? Well I saw something sciencey in my grandmother's house that refuted all religion so I think no religion should be taught in schools...LOL
samurairyu No, I'm saying I've seen many things that prove to me that what the bible teaches is true, I do think everyone should have access to a bible if they want one, if Christian kid have to be taught evolution in school ( which has very little to know facts to back it seeing how the majority of it's proof is based on round thinking like geological colum) the christians, Muslims and every other religion should have the ability to get free bibles or what ever other book. Just not Satanism because come on dude.
+Juke Tolson this is not how our country works, when it comes to religion it's all or nothing. You either don't teach any religion in class and only focus on proven scientific facts like every other modern country or you allow all religion including satanism, Islam, etc. You can't say "I want this not this one, why? Because I say so." but honestly this discussion is pointless as separation of church and state says government institutions cannot favor one religion over another meaning our government and public schools are securlary run, no Christianity, no satanism, just scientific facts that are backed up by evidence.
But Christianity is Murica's national religion!
obvious joke.
Sadly it's not that obvious to too many Americans.
+TheyCallMeGawd Sadly people actually think we have a national religion.
+Blake Franich unfortunately some people realize we dont have a national religion and are trying to establish chistianity as such.
Exactly.
Why is it that, no matter the topic, whenever Americans talk about "The rest of the world" they only ever talk about Europe? There are other places, you know.
It's the same ignorance that non-US citizens display when they purport to represent the *"rest of the world"* when making comments critical of the US. Example: "I'm from _______... everyone in the world hates the US!".
It appears that there's idiots in every corner of this world.
Diatonic5th except that everyone dislikes America is relatively accurate. A large portion of other countries sees America as the biggest threat to global peace. The international community does not view America in the best light. This has been a reality for a long time and only seems to be getting worse.
Why not just teach science and facts and throw all religious material out entirely?
People can dream
Also religion is an important part of people's lives
Åšhłėė H🈸 ...
True, but Religion is for At Home, or Church....NOT At School. Unless of course you send you child to a Religious School.
How can people who are against welfare ALSO be against funding public schools? SMH
Vote for Bernie
Lol
Sorreh but no
i rather have sanders than that corupt bitch
+gsts They're not making fun of any religion. They're stating what the bible says.
+kung fupanda lol fupa-nda. I see what ya did there
My mother insisted for years that I read the bible, up until then I considered myself a "liberal" Christian. Not really religious but I still held a lot of the beliefs. I read it; was horrified over the sexism and inhumane ideas/practices, at least in my opinion, then became atheist soon after. If she didn't nag me for so long I probably would still be a Christian.
Sister, if you are hot just hot, if you are cold just cold. I mean having doubt a Christian will not bring you in heaven. Trust God Jesus you might died but you will live in eternal your soul
Read Dr fratus book. After that you will no who is true God.
How could they pass out Bibles in a public school in the first place?
+nanasewdear they do it because they think no one will have a problem with it or try to do anything to stop it.a lot of christians believe the clause iabout freedom of religion only applies to christians
"Defunding" something is the first move in the privatization playbook. Defund it so that it doesn't work anymore, then people want something done, then it's privatized, and fails in about 7 years. That's why public education has been defunded. The US Postal Service was forced by a Republican law to fund it's pension to anticipate every worker 75 years in advance. 75 years. Funding a pension for workers who weren't even born yet. Reason? The pension fund was the pot of gold at the end of the privatization rainbow - it would be gutted as soon as the institution was sold. Fortunately, the workers and management have so far averted privatization.
Jokes on them, they already teach atheism, its called science.
The US isn't unique in being a nation of immigrants, nor is ESL an issue only the US has.
the worst part is they're gonna think this was the work of the devil
Tyler Blakeney BECAUSE IT IS
Is that Jaime Camil. How and Why?
+Juan Romero lmao right??! I was like wtf ive seen this guy at my gramas tv hahhah
+Mr. Anonymus lol. when shes watching her novelas.
Juan Romero
Exactly!! hahah
+Mr. Anonymus lol
Wtf lmao
Little do they know the guy in the blue suit is a HUGE Mexican TV star. Wow how did they get him?
+ishowyouapple I'm not familiar with him. Is he a news anchor, telenovela star?
+antgil818 yea tevenovela star.
ishowyouapple ok. Thanks for the heads up. Telenovelas are cool but too bad I don't understand Spanish (trying to change that).
Right ! I was like wtf is that him?! 😱😍 lol
Hilarious how Christians have to constantly be reminded about the separation of church and state and why it's there in the first place.
+Greyghostvol1 well america was founded on christian principals. :D
Which of course it was not and that's a matter of public record from the founding fathers but I guess they are too lazy to actually do a google search. :D
All people - religious and atheists alike - are blessed by the noodly appendage
We have a better economy because of the immigrants, not because of Americans. They are the innovators. Education does matter.
Can't we just enhance science instead? .-.
Let me educate everyone with this one sentence. Christianity and Christian Religions are two different things entirely.
+Christian Adams If you could describe the difference in a clear, concise sentence, then maybe, maybe it would be educational.
+Christian Adams ....We're listening, do tell.
+Åšhłėė H🈸 You can if you want ha ha but what I said is truth
+Edward Mowah No. Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran etc.. are religious practices that Christian people have created
+polachee Christianity is faith, Chrsitian Religion are practices that were created by Christians for example "Lutheran, Catholic, Baptist, etc... (There are more but you get the point)
where is Flying Spaghetti Monster movement ?
+symmetry08 In Italy..
+Jixxy Trix you don't get it do you???
Having worked in a Private Christian school for about a year now I feel VERY secure in saying that no, private schools are shit.
Yea
+Mark LaFrancis *private Christian schools
Fund all public schools through county taxes. Stop this dumb property tax system for funding schools!
+bnose202
The end result is the same, isn't it?
+Zeldagigafan
Nope... It shares the revenue raised from both poor and affluent districts evenly where all the schools share the same resources.
+Zeldagigafan no, poorer neighborhoods have worse schools as a result. Thats whats going on in schools in places like Detroit
+Zeldagigafan federalize the school system.. Like wtf?!? We are all americans why do some kids receive worst education bc they live poor place...
County based systems statistically save tax payers money as apposed to dozens of schools in an individual county or city, having great duplication of resources and staff. Having county taxes fully reflective on income makes the tax burden more fair to all instead of fully putting burden on home/property owners especially seniors. There are many papers and resources published on this topic,
"If you don't believe in this thing you are going to suffer eternal damnation."
That's how it works. "Do this and you'll go to hell!" "Don't do that or you will go to hell!" "Sleep with who I tell you to or you'll go to hell!" "You slept with the right person I told you to, but they don't share our view points so they'll go to hell and you'll go to hell too if you stay with them!"
At this rate, we're ALL going to hell by the looks of it so my mind has just gone numb to it.
Jaime Camile. wow, tyt are getting fancy with their guests!
Privatization in America means "get the government to pay you" for doing something, like helping the poor, running correctional facilities, private schools . . .
We used to call some of these government sponsored types Privateers.
I too am a huge supporter of public schools. I went to a private school up until 5th or 6th grade. when I got to my middle school I was so un prepared for the level that my classmates were at at that point. I remember feeling behind and like I hadn't learned what they had. there were more programs at the school such as music and so many more extracurricular activities. we had an incredible number of resources which I hadn't experienced before. I should also say that it was a Jewish private school and because of it we also had to learn Hebrew, none of which I remember, and had prayer services. I don't remember having Torah study classes but I must have had them. and this probably contributed to my feeling behind. now I'm in my last year of high school and the cycle which Cenk is talking about is very clear. a huge percentage of people in my school district are Jewish and send their children to private school, and because of the overwhelming majority they run the school board. either we are all incredibly cynical or the lack of care is extremely evident. whether it's the lack of paper in our building, the elementary schools being shutdown and sold/rented to yeshivas, and new teachers being fired before they reach tenure while the ones that do have it haven't received a new contract in 5 years you see it. it's gotten so bad that now we have elementary school and middle school aged kids in the same building. that's a range of 8 years. the fact is people are already paying so much to make sure that boys and girls don't mingle that they don't want to pay anymore in taxes. our school needs more money or else I'm afraid I won't have a place to go to for my 20 year reunion. and it's mind boggling to me that our district is suffering while the one right next door is thriving with beautiful equipment for theater with professional looking sets while we can barely afford the paper we print it on. that all.
oweny93 I thought you were crazy until you mentioned what type of private school it was.
I went to public and private schools. Public schools are overwhelmed, and overwhelming to their students.
she is so right I work in a public charter school and I have a little sister who goes to a religious private school she 5 years old. The 5 year olds I work with are a whole lot more advanced when it comes to their math then she is, only in this case I blame her teacher. The teacher does not teach the material she tells the parents do not worry about math I will handle it and then she sends them home with over 30 lessons of math, 2 stories, a language arts packet, 20 stories and quizzes a week. The children have never done before and then when you bring it up to her she says she never gets complaints, the last quarter the year she called a meeting because she got so many complaints that the principal threatened to remove her. Where I work the teachers make sure there children know there information if the child has not mastered that information you do not move them. you do not tell them on a standardized placement test to just guess the answers because they have not taught it. You don't do that, it amazes me that woman ever managed to get a job in teaching.
Jaime Camil!! I love him! I'm a christian and I 10000% agree with handing out other religious material if they want to start handing out bibles. Our government is secular and we need to respect that.
people needs to understand this
cenk you lack knowledge of what Satanism really is. they don't worship Satan.
well it's dependent on which form of Satanism.
+Bigg Few really do but I'm sure there is that small sect of people that actually do
When is Cenk ever informed about anything. He does a cursorary 30 second Google and thinks thats enough
Exactly, do some research Cenk!
They may not but as a liberal, i do. Alex Jones said so.
HAIL SATAN
Got that right, christianity is trauma based mind control.
+Tudor Renegade and what is Islam, religion of peace and tolerance?? LOL
Bigots. -.-
Yes, religious people are mostly bigots.
1:56 "To be fair, I'm biased here."
Cue the usual trolls complaining that an opinion news show has opinions.
+Aronson, Michael 마익흘 how many times have we seen that in the comments? I'm always thinking what is this your first time here or something? :D
It's a combination of two things:
1. They're very simple thinkers who can't put complex ideas together, such as holding multiple opinions about a particular topic (like how TYT sometimes praises Obama and sometimes criticizes him, depending on the issue at hand).
2. They desperately want to be right, and when they see TYT criticizing mainstream news for being unfair and unbalanced, their simple thinking comes to the first and overly simplistic conclusion that TYT must be hypocrites because TYT also expresses opinions.
Satanism teaches better morals.
+Tyson Runnels Yay, let's worshp the source of all evil in the world! Makes total sense...?
+MsThesuitelife Sorry but you are wrong. When most people say Satanism they are referring to 'LaVeyan Satanism' and The Church of Satan which was founded by Anton LaVey in 1966 and is a atheistic religion based on self indulgences not absence. LaVeyan Satanists do not believe in a literal Satan as in the Satan of the Bible, but as example of all things that make us human.
MsThesuitelife So then by definition he's the actual source of all evil...
YumLemmingKebabs No.
MsThesuitelife So then he didn't create everything.
Republicans be like: "you are free to choose any religion you want in America.......as long as it's only Christianity."
??WHAT??
Look, somebody took a huge Trump on Anna's chest!
+Leo Roberts I endorse this message!!
*shrugs* reading the bible made me an atheist. I believe the bible should be mandatory reading in schools. The problem comes from people with agendas "interpreting" it.
The whole time I'm like, "Is that Rogelio? There's no way." Then he opened his mouth and I still can't believe it's him!
+TopHatKitty XD ME TOO
I think that the biggest problem Christianity is facing today is the lack of understanding just how compassionate Christ was. He was the embodiment of goodness here on Earth and I never read one passage within the bible that Christ ever turned on humanity. He died for all people not just his followers.
+Zackery Birtkowski Fictional character is fictional.
Promoting Satanism? That's a stretch.
Satanism is actually a more peaceful religion than Christianity and before someone try's to berate me look it up
im for it make it a learning exsperience for all religions
Austin Genovachek Satanism has a negative connotation to it. I can't fathom why someone would want to introduce children to a being that's a representation of all things evil.
I was totally against everything TYT was saying on this subject until Jimmy Dore presented his argument at the end. Well done Jimmy!
+Lord Abiabi
i was thinking the same thing: "why should they have to pay those taxes if their kids aren't going to those schools?" but they're right, if they're putting out propaganda against public schools even though the stats jimmy mentioned, it does play a role. i think the facts just need to be shown and the taxes the idiot rich STILL want to pay, then who cares?
Ppl are so ignorant of the Bible. Most ppl who know the most haven't read it or have understanding.
Glad to see you're not wasting time or energy on moving your thumbs a few more centimeters to completely type out the word 'people'.
I went to public school and it was MISERABLE.
We were treated like prisoners, guilty until proven innocent and there was no way to prove yourself innocent. I was on the honor roll since first grade, never got below a B average, took advanced placement (college level) classes and graduated with an advanced diploma and they treated me just as terrible as the kids who talked back, did drugs and skipped class.
They'd call you to the office randomly and make you pee in a cup, and they'd go through your locker, dig through your backpack without warning or permission and have cops patrolling the school regularly. You could be suspended or expelled if you had things like pocketknife, tobacco, or even a matchbook.
I once was pulled out of class and had to go prove my thermos of coffee was in fact coffee, and I was also sent to the office and marked tardy even though my dad came to school with me and proved it was his fault I was late because his car broke down.
(If you were marked as tardy even once, then during the last week before summer, all the other students get to leave school early at like 12pm and you have to stay and do punishment work for three hours all week. That's 15 hours of punishment for being even 5 minutes late due to circumstances totally beyond your control.)
I'd literally cut off one of my fingers before sending my poor child to that hellhole.
God dam Jimmy is right again. TYT should have a Jimmy rant segment.
100% agree.
7:29 I'd rather live in a country where people are responsible for their own children.
That depends on ones definition of responsible
Exactly.
+TheL0wner And what, poor people can suck it?
+TheL0wner Then you'd end up with increased poverty, less educated populace, more crime, more murder, less jobs. You want to live in a non-developed country. Or the middle ages.
Were you taught nothing of the Enlightenment?
+TheL0wner I think we do need a public school but yes I do think parents should be more involved in their kid's education. However, not everyone is able to do that, it's not a matter of not wanting to or being lazy, many do not have the time. they are forced to always work and tend to their other responsibilities and that often just leaves little time for family.
Satanism isn't a religion, it's a cult.
It's a religion lol.
All religions are cults
Christianity is a cult. Satanism is a religion.
+Zach McClure
So is Christianity
All religions are cults.
30000$ for kindergarten? That's way past fucked up.
+WizPigTactics Not to mention private school teachers don't have to have degrees. I am getting my bachelors in early childhood education and I could work at a local private school with only my high school diploma. But this would mean my salary would be 32,000 and I wouldn't get health care. You are literally paying for your child to go to an overly expensive daycare.
that Mexican guy is such eye candy..
+Maraschino ThirtyEight what is Eva doing here? Lol I didn't expect Jaime at all
As a Swede I can say that when it comes to education our system should be seen as an example of what happens when you unleash the corporatists on the educational system. While most of our public services are up to an acceptable standard our schools are not and the reason is that neo-liberals got their way with privatization.
+ma82fo certain things like education and health care should never be for profit. Just the very concept ticks me off.
Nada mas random que ver a Jaime Camil en TYT
It's nice to see somebody fighting against heavy-handed Christian bullies and giving them a taste of their own medicine.
*Inconsistency.....*
i'm tired of the bashing of charter schools from the left - and i'm to the left of Bernie and most of TYT. I went to a charter school for junior high and high school. Every single person in my graduating class either went to college, served in the military first, or took a gap year before starting college. Only one student stated when graduating they weren't going to go to college. My high school had the best scores in the area and some of the best (if not the best) statewide. This with less funding than public schools. Am I against privatization of schools in terms of a profit motive and to avoid fixing public schools? Yes. However, it seems like a lot of progressives aren't educated on charter schools so it pisses me off to no end seeing people bash on them. 1. charter schools receive less funding than public schools and are smaller so that can lead to worse off results. 2. charter schools are still public. They don't charge tuition and anyone can go to one. 3. It seems like the same people who bash our current education system, are the same ones that bash charter schools when they deliver more individualized results. My school situation was unique because I live in Hawaii and the DOE is all operated by the state rather than by the counties. Charter Schools have a general budget for the entire state rather than an amount per pupil. That means if a charter school opens up, the existing schools lose funding. Yet despite my school losing money due to another one popping up, I still received a better education than if I were to have gone to a regular public school.
THATS JAIME CAMIL. I DONT EVEN CARE ABOUT THIS NEWSSTORY ANYMORE. JAIME OH MY GOSH
ikr
bro calm down.
whose dat
+Brownkevin7 a Hispanic actor that's pretty famous
CJ alicea oh i havent even finished watchin it
Jenk mentioned the 'round and round we go' at about the 8 minute mark. What he fails to mention is that the 'round and round' is America circulating the drain of history.
Anyone who's Christian ?
+Phi Nguyen anyone who's atheist ?
+Phi Nguyen Yes
Phi Nguyen Anyone who's bible-belt protestant Bible literalist or Amish?
Im Christian, and Cenk is basically saying everything he was taught whrn he was Muslim. All Muslims are taught BS about the Bible. You can still see it in Cenk. There is a legit arguement that can be made that the bible never mentions Hell. As the word Hell comes from Sheol which means Grave. But Cenk the greaseball likes to hate on Christians because thats what he was brainwashed to do.
no, Christianity is bullshit.
I went to this High School. It wasn't just Bible distribution...we had Christian based abstinence programs instead of sex ed, prayer before sporting events, and more.
Delta High was also rated as one of the poorest, lowest performing High Schools in Colorado. The administration and teachers who created this culture or ignorance are a shame on the community and on the young adults they were supposed to teach.
brentrich16 I went there too and the lines of church and state were often blurred. It's a very conservative town where people don't question things and people were concerned when they found out the new chief of police was going to be black.
Every time Jimmy opens his mouth Cenk braces himself. He's all like" What is this guy going to say next". Especially when he started to talk about people in the USA speaking two languages, since Jimmy sometimes says stupid stuff, I'm pretty sure Cenk got nervous Jimmy would say something in front of the guest (Jaime Camil) who is Mexican (makes telenovelas in Mexico) that would make things awkward.
Reckon it's more that Cenk and Jimmy had a falling out a few months back, burried the hatchet, and are only lately woking together again.
So Jimmy didn't know that we also have the multi-language barrier in other countries. How many Americans do know that? How many even consider it? He probably does know that now; enough people have said it.
When I was younger this girl would tell me that I had to go into the shadows to accept the demons that live in the shadows. She also said that stepping on cracks on the ground had something to do with demons. She was crazy. This is why I regect all types of religion now. Extremely religious people scare the shit out of me.
canada is a country of immigrants and we have to learn 2 languages it's hard but you have to do it.
How would elimination of debt from student loans change the economy. There would be more money circulating in the economy contributing to people's income and thereby enlarging the tax base.
TYT is such a fresh breath of air! It's great. ✌️
I prefer the book that says you should never harm children and never make unwanted sexual advances.
+TheRandomzJake Which book is that?
+A.C. CAS The satanic bible
Que hace Jaime Camil ahí??? Como sea, ahora me ca mejor igual q los young turks!
Lots of horrible private, charter and public schools. But, there are a lot of great public schools that are better than most private schools.
+el dwdubu And they are too few and far between
+YankeeSpirit Depends where you live. My 4 kids all attending public schools and every one them are in the IB program, International Baccalaureate. My oldest daughter graduated IB and was offered free rides at 3 Universities, IB diploma means something. She graduated and doing very well, got 3 more to go. IB knocks off a whole semester in college.
Wtf is Jaime camil doing there? Lol
+Luis Castro He got tired of over acting in Tele-novelas jajaja
The US economy has dominated using the well educated immigrants, not US schooled people. It's abundantly clear that you've never been to silicon valley, or any of the high tech firms that make the USA the powerhouse it is. Having been on the inside, it's rare to be in a room with even 50% born Americans. Immigrants don't just dominate the jobs that Americans won't do, they also dominate the jobs Americans can't do, and it's because American students are taught to fear and avoid math and science. That's the only reason.
+Jens Boettiger Immigrants aren't necessarily representative of their country's education system. For example Nigerian immigrants have the highest IQ in the US. The problem is the US has become the world's brain drain and it makes it harder for US citizens to compete or even want to try, because it just seems pointless when you live in one of the most competitive countries on Earth.
LOVE this.
WTF happened to separation of church and state?
It's in our constitution for a reason. We are a collection of everything in the world and we also have a unique opportunity to set an example of acceptance and possibly further the beautiful change that's been happening throughout our history.
The public school I graduated from was at least 10 times better than the private school I went to for 3 years.
"We focus on the wrong things, like bashing teachers."
YES, ANA!!! YEEEEESSSSS!!!!! Loud-mouthed children who disrupt classes should be removed.
I'm a little high so I might have freaked out a bit when I randomly heard Rogelio on TYT.
When I was in school, my biggest problem with it was that other kids were also there.
It really shits me when people don't want their taxes going to public schools when their kids go to private schools. I don't have kids but I can't chose where my tax dollar goes! And most importantly it is a choice to send kids to private schools! Keep schools public!!!
7:29 "Do you want a nation of idiots?"
If you were a businessperson, would you prefer to deal with idiots, or stubborn people who can fend for themselves? The unfair advantage is preferable, no?
+EvilShredder Indeed. Capital doesn't care about intelligence except when it cares about intelligence. It isn't a given. Scooping up talent to leave the rest to fend for themselves should be an expected behavior of capitalists (though many other systems as well, at the very least as long as we keep capitalism or capitalistic-ish systems happening). AKA that's life.
Education is largely the result of the student's efforts more so than anything else. Sure, some schools will push students harder or have better resources or learning environment, but what education comes down to no matter where you are going to school: do you read or not, and what are you reading? do you practice the skills or do you not? I am all for creating better schools, but what we really need is better parents helping their kids become better students. It will never happen in the US -- too many people just don't care. That's why we suck. Here is one example: closed minded people more interested in their own small-world dogma than in learning about the world.
+Violet Deliriums
True enough. The education system isn't really to blame, it's a symptom of a larger problem. US society, at a macro level, doesn't value even basic intellectual pursuits. Many US Americans look at knowledge acquisition as ultimately pointless, or worse, a recipe for moral bankruptcy.
On the plus side, it's pretty easy to be "smarter" than just about everyone else here, there's very little competition. If you could spell autodidact before reading this sentence you're in the upper 2%. If you didn't know what it meant before reading this paragraph but do now -- you're in the top 1%.
jessesipprell We could probably argue that the story of Adam and Eve sets up christian literal-bible-reading culture to abhor knowledge (eating from the tree of knowledge is the original sin, after all). PS -- I would hesitate to judge someone as "smart" or "dumb" based solely on knowledge of specific vocabulary words, which suggests a certain elitism or absolute definition of what is and what is not "being smart."
when i lived in peru for 2 years i noticed this was a big issue. school used to be free for everyone, it eventually started getting privaticed, etc etc. now everyone. Everyone. goes to a private school. if youre too poor to pay, then you go to a "public school" which is just a rat cage with 1 teacher per 100 students and noone really learns anything. i wouldnt like to see america on the same boat.
+Mari Eli "Oh my god, I have to pay some for everyone to get an education! Privitize it!" "Ugh I have to pay a ton for my child's education and many can't even afford it or get a stripped down form, but at least its my choice to pay!"
I live in Louisiana, and passing out Bibles is the least of it. Not a single rally or event I attended in almost ANY public school here started (and sometimes ended) with a prayer. Flyers from the local churches were passed out seasonally to invite everyone to the churches' various celebrations. Often there are scriptures in various teachers' offices, if not in the actual halls. It's crazy. Not as bad in the north half of the state, these days, but it's still rampant in the south.
I am Christian but I am also more so a monotheist now. I agree with this video on the basis as others have said that not having separation of church and state is unamerican. A school should not have the power to indoctrinate anyone on anything. With that said, the school should have allowed the church to pass out the Bibles as they could be taken or refused by the students voluntarily. As long as the Bibles weren't being passed out directly on school property the school's move hurt our civil liberties IMHO (I don't know personally where they were passing them out).
That said, I do believe schools should have a classes on religion in high school where kids are taught about the current and past religions as a separate division of history studies. I believe our lack of education in this regard teaches children to have stigma and create a biased view that's harmful both to our politics and the economy.
You're saying that if you don't believe and they tell you that if you don't believe you'll burn in hell. If you don't believe then how can that scar you?
i think that they are going to hand out bibles in school they should hand out the torah, the Qur'an, a book about Buddhism and a book about Hinduism alot of people are ignorant about other religions
+Cynthia Mayo i think school and religion should not be put together... and if i had it my way there would be none of these cults ahh err i mean religion
+gardedog we live in a society where we have to deal with religious people so we have to teach them about different religions so we have to teach them about different religions
Cynthia Mayo i disagree .... there was no religion at both the primary and high schools I went to . we also live in a with , say, serial killers, rapists, pedophiles but we don't them that in school
Falsely labeling Satanists as picking Satan. Satanism isnt worshiping satan. Do your research.
Here comes the Josh Feuerstein video that complains about Satanism in the classrooms without ever mentioning that the reason it was allowed was because of people like him.
There was nothing "forced" about this. It was all voluntary.
Every time I hear Ana talk, I love her more and more. My wife and I both went to public schools and it was fantastic as well! IMO, one of the biggest factors in education nowadays is the support of parents. The amount of adults (with children) who say they "can't help" their kids w/schoolwork in GRADE SCHOOL because they "don't understand it" is appalling. Nowadays, parents expect that if they spend more money on a school, or move to an area w/better schools, everything will just work out and they won't have to do anything.
11. Thou shalt not be a Hypocrite. 12. Thou shalt keep thy Religion to thy self. Hmmm, I wonder why these two did'nt make the list?
as an agnostic i can say this situation is hilarious but the whole "schools can have no religion" is a bit of a stretch.
should we teach religion in school? unless its from a historical or literary viewpoint no we should not(for instance discussing the founding of Christianity through verses of the old testament is cool. same for reading parables or psalms in literature class).
just treat as what it is-An unbiased learning material.
and its okay to have a religious freedom ideal, just make it for all.
my school at the start of every day has a moment of silence where anyone can pray no matter what their religion and nobody talk and all the atheist in my class bitch about it wasting valuable time(a whopping 45 seconds).
to me, if they want me to respect they have no belief then they need to respect that others do
that's why we have classes like world history, multi culture, or even philosophy( bit of a stretch) that does this
If people want to pray, they can pray during recess or at home before or after school, or at any other point during the day on their own damn time. Just because someone believes in something doesn't mean you auto-default respect to them. If schools want to teach a lesson about group think, and isolation of the other; perhaps they should start handing out arm bands to those who don't pray, I'm sure that'll go over well.
+Nathan Tucker
Ignorance doesn't has to be respected in any context; it only leads to the delay of mankind.
rahn45 when did i say anything about isolationist thinking?
Religion is supposes to bring people together and progress the world, not seperate us....
How is it hurting you for someone to pray?
How would you like it if you were told you coudlnt do something because it was different?
I dont understand why this has to be such a big fuss.
Let people believe what they want as long as it isnt hurting anyone else.
And yeah you should respect that people have beliefs, the same way you want them to resepect that you dont.
Your preaching on how "religion is isolatinistic" while condemning those who are religious, the majority of the world. How hypocritical is that
Nathan Tucker How can you with a straight face say religion is supposed to bring people together and progress the world when it's one of the leading causes of death, and oppression in both the historical context and in the modern context.
There's a lot of people out there who believe that vaccines causes autism, so they don't vaccinate their kids and their ignorance results in sick and dead children. There's a lot of people who believe that every sperm is sacred, so do not use any sort of contraceptive; and we got to see the spread of AIDs throughout the world on a massive scale. We have people who believe that you can treat diseases with nothing but water, and again we see children and desperate people suffer the consequences.
I do not, and will not respect those beliefs, and you're a damn fool for giving them that respect.
When I was a little kid I was raised Christian and I felt guilty all the time even when I didn't do anything, I would start crying until I threw up because I thought I was going to go to hell
It is called brainwashing
These people that think their particular belief is the ultimate, irrefutable truth of the universe sure do fear having it scrutinized with reason, skeptical inquiry and alternative information. People need to shed themselves of these ridiculous, divisive and intolerant Bronze Age systems and get on with living with their fellow human beings and try to make the world a better place and not deluding yourselves in thinking that you have a special place in a special club with special rewards coming to you and everyone else be damned.
Don't pay for private unless it's middle or high school. Public schools teach enough of the basics of reading, writing and arithmetic, that it's just a wast of money otherwise. I went to public schools, except for an independent private college-prep high school, then to my state University, which cost about the same when housing costs were added!. The high school was about $5k a year and very high end for the '90s.
All the kids that would have been bullied in public schools went there. We had Hindus, Sikhs, Vietnamese, also exchange students. The majority were the kids of wealthy fams in town, and a smaller percentage of middle-class kids whose parents knew the value of such a school. Smaller class sizes, different sports, higher standards of teaching, extra help and kids who were all planning on college afterwards, so no riff-raff and no bullying. Was not religious but did have a tiny chapel that no one used, except for a quiet place to study.
I hate to be that guy. But the Church Of Satan doesn't worship Satan literally. LaVeyan Satanism rejects deities, my understanding is that the symbol of Satan/the fall of Lucifer is used to represent rejecting external authority and embracing individualism and love of the self. Literal 'satan-worshippers' are not Satanists by the modern definition-- if anything most Satanists are atheists. But I'm not sure what information these Satanist 'materials' contained-- it could very well have been a literal interpretation of the idea, ie kid's books about devil-worship. Either way, great job of the part of FFRF calling the district on this.
Regarding privatization of schools: I support a voucher system for all citizen/students. The rich can currently escape bad schools, but the poor & middle class can't. Corrupt school districts construct jubmotrons for jocks, but have virtually no funds for fine arts. Schools that don't waste millions on glorifying athletes, can spend such funds on teacher salaries, books, laboratory equipment etc. Those who want to specialize in football, have the option to stay in the corrupt public school. Students who want to get away from the false idols, should have the freedom to take the voucher to the school of their choice.
As a christian turned Agnostic, and i believe kids should see many different beliefs. Not any of the extreme ones of course. But children shouldn't be subjugated to only one way of thinking. Because if they do open up to other beliefs, it will help them with their own understanding of empathy and conflict solving.
+Msmeliss ox Kids need to be trained to be skeptics and to develop strong critical thinking skills. While it is useful for kids (or anyone) to study world religions from a historical perspective and what people believe throughout the world, I don't think that opening them up to other beliefs has much to do with developing empathy and conflict solving. In fact, most faiths do a pretty deplorable job in both departments