How to Quarantine and Medicate New Fish
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2019
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Wild angels (and Discus) are most beautiful in their natural wild colors. Great info in this video Dan. Thanks for sharing. 😷👍
I agree... the wilds are refreshing.
Very comprehensive vid. Thank you. Love the angels.
Glad you liked it, Allan. Thanks for watching.
Great video 👍! Thank you for sharing and looking forward to seeing the next one! 😀
Thanks for watching, Kathleen.
Awesome video Dan. Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge on fish keeping with us. Looking forward to more videos.
Thanks for watching, Dan.
Thank you so much for sharing this.
Thanks for sharing your process Dan. Really well explained and I learned a lot. Making me a better fish keeper 👍
Glad the video was informative, Aqua!
Dan this has been a very helpful and practical application video. Thank you for being thorough. I actually was able to put this info to work this week😀
Glad to hear it, Wichita. I hope you get a positive result!
I appreciate the long video of your process. It just solidifies my decision to buy from you. I have bought from others in the past and regretted it with sick fish, your fish are always healthy and “fat n sassy”. Keep up the awesome work, will be ordering again soon.
Really good information. Really adds next level quality to how you keep fish. Will surely make a purchase soon!
Thanks, Diva!
These detailed videos are impressive to watch. Good information for hardcore hobbyists.
Glad to hear you like the minutia, Futbol.
You are easily my favorite fish monger! I like that you keep it 💯, you don't care if you look goofy or act goofy you just do you. I mean we got a 5 min explanation about a shirt lol that in-depth explanation also goes for education that you give so thank you
Oh, come now...that explanation was easily 7 minutes :)
Beautiful fish! Love the Spotted head standers. Almost didn’t recognize you without your glasses. 🤓😆
I only scrubble the front of my tanks too. Nice quarantine process. Very impressive. It's got to be a little frustrating never knowing what and how much of the order will get filled. Thanks for the video. Cheers
Scrubble away, my friend!!!
This was great! I'm looking forward to part 2 - I don't mind long videos when the topic is one I'm this interested in. I've heard you speak about your quarantine process many times in livestreams, but there's just nothing like seeing it demonstrated 😎 This video may not be good for your YT analytics, but it should be great for your Getgills store site - have you considered putting a link to this (and pt 2) there?
Really loved this!💕💕👍
YT is going to HATE this one for sure. But, hopefully, something in it will be helpful to folks, so it is worth it.
I have not linked it to GetGills.com ... I'll think on that.
Nice and very informative.
Thanks, Edward!
I am glad you demonstrated taking safety precautions when handling fish meds. Except for General Cure I have switched to herbal meds from Kordon. Malachite Green is one I especially have concerns about. This is an excellent video for total quarantine procedures.
For occasional use, it might be overkill. But I use these meds several times a week, so I try to keep my exposure to them at a minimum.
Love❤ the black marker blackout on the tank 😂
Very informative and influential video..as a fish keeper we should follow the same.
Glad you found the video informative. I don't know if my way of doing quarantine is correct for everyone, but I do believe everyone will benefit from developing a quarantine method. Hopefully this helps get them started.
How much h2O2 you put in 30gallon tanks! 4cups measurement please!
Scrubble is now my new favorite word. Lol.
"Scrubble"...its a thing. We need T-Shirts!!!
Dans Fish Scrubbles unite! 😆
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Thanks for this video! My question is, why treat for parasites after moving tanks, why not treat in the quarantine tank they are already in?
Thank you so much for this great information! Quick question if you have time. You said you use 5 grams per liter of water for the quarantine tanks. That equals almost 19 grams per gallon if I'm correct? Thank seemed like a crazy amount ones I started Weighing it out. I just wanted to verify the amount is correct and if so do you use this method for all fish that come in or do you get some Species that can't handle that much salt?
Shave and a haircut threw me off. 😂 Lots of fun hanging with you in the fish room. Only thing is after all that would have been fun to see them in their “final” homes. Eh, saving something for pt 2.
I occasionally clean up nice. Not trying to leave a cliff-hanger...the video was just getting to darned long.
Beautiful angels. Love the video . What do you use for parasites for scaleless fish and sensitive fish ( silver dollars hatchets ect)?
Tina,
I use the same meds for all the fish. I cut the salt down 50% for species that are sensitive to it, but I don't find med dosages make much difference. I just put a hundred or so silver hatchets through without any issue. For parasites, I use Flubendazole, Metro, Prazi, Levamosole, and Ich-X. I don't always use them all, but i have them ready. I also use copper when needed. I have not used copper with silver dollars and hatchets, so I don't know if they are extra sensitive to it or not.
Love the vid- smart man using facemask to protect your respitory tract... Working with those meds as much as you do, do you think it is also necessary for folks to consider eye protection? Or is that overkill?
Well, I grew up with Bill Nye the Science Guy, so of course you we should all use eye pro around chemicals :)
CAN YOU USE THOSE MEDS IN FRESHWATER?
Very good information. How much hydrogen peroxide would you say you add per gallon or per 10 gallons? I saw where you said half a bottle per each 30 gallon tank. How many millilitres are each bottle? Thanks. I'm gonna treat my new rack with hydrogen peroxide for my 1st step.
The bottle is 1 quart (946 mL)...works out to about 2 USA Cups/30 gallons.
Dan, I noticed that you did not add any tank water into the bags of fish prior to releasing them into the tank. Are you not concerned with differences in water parameters (Ph, hardness, etc)
Good question. The short answer is no. I've never found the difference in parameters to be a big deal to most fish. What IS a big deal is all the pollutants which build up in the bag with the fish. I've found that the sooner I get them out of that dirty water, the better. I used to mix water, drip acclimate...I've tried many methods. What seems to work best most consistently is just more-or-less equalizing temps and them putting the fish straight into the new tank. This helps prevent ammonia toxicity and other problems which are much more serious than pH or most other parameter differences. In fact, I will sometimes skip the temperature equalization step if the fish are in obviously foul water.
Awesome Video Thanks for Sharing FishFam NJAE19
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Hi Dan, hoping you’ll see this even though it’s an old video! We’re new to the hobby of fish (but have raised an aquatic turtle for 20 yrs so have *some* aquarium experience). Sick of losing fish left and right coming from our LFS, no matter how we chose to quarantine or introduce them to our tanks, and becoming increasingly enamored with your videos and business process, we placed a large order from you last night and are excitedly preparing for their arrival!
My question is: when receiving fish from you, who have specifically already been put through the ringer of meds, do you advise or recommend against a second similar round of treatment after they ship to us? I feel like I’ve collected just about every fish med under the sun, but would it be literal overkill to put their little bodies through more meds again in a relatively short amount of time? Do you recommend just an observational qt for fish that come from you?
Regardless if you answer or not, I just want to thank you for running a business that is very transparent and seems to genuinely care about each little fish that passes through your hands. I was happy to shell out a bit more (especially for shipping) to buy from a source that puts so much time and thought into their husbandry and shipping process before they even are put up for sale!
Thanks for the question...and the order! I think an observational period is how I would quarantine fish if I were a customer buying them from Dan's Fish -Dan
Compressed water, lol.
Such another great video! I saved this one😊 what kind of ammonia strips do you like to use? I use the master api kit but if I see ammonia I like to have a second test, I treated my tank with Levamisole a couple weeks ago and I think it crashed my cycle, my tank got cloudy and I checked my levels and I have 1.0 maybe even a bit higher, I immediately did a 60% water change, and will do another tomorrow, I also just added api quick start with that large water change, am I on the right track? I added a few days ago carbon to my HOB to clear meds could that spike my Ammonia?
Howdy Heather,
I use the Tetra test strips. I am cheep, so I cut them in half length-wise and turn a bottle of 100 into 200.
I've never had Levamisole hurt my filter. However, it does kill all kinds of worms and inverts so, it is likely that it killed a bunch of detritus worms and other critters in your tank and, when they decomposed, that caused the ammonia spike. It sounds like you are on the right track to deal with the ammonia. I would also stop feeding for a few days (much better to have hungry fish than to have ammonia) and carefully vacuum the gravel and clean any poly fill or other mechanical filtration out to try and get rid of as much of the decaying bio load as possible. Be sure to do this in a way that does not disturb your biological filter...you need all the nitrifying bacteria you can get right now. One other trick is to add Seachem Prime or Safe to the tank to help detoxify the ammonia as things get sorted out. Hopefully, things will settle down in a couple of days. Oh, and adding an airstone can help too...all that biological decay can really suck up your tanks oxygen.
Dans Fish great thanks Dan I didn’t even think about why the ammonia spiked dire to decaying worms, I added a seeded sponge filter to the tank hoping that will help, tomorrow I’ll clean out the hob filter sponges and poly fill, thanks so much for responding! I have never bought fish from you YET but I will!
I have referred you to a lot of Facebookers and UA-camrs 😊
Yep. The problem with Levamasole is that it really works and kills all kinds of nematodes, not just the ones in the fish. Hope it all goes well for you...please do let me know how it turns out. Ammonia is nasty stuff. And thanks for the referrals...every bit helps!
Dans Fish update: by the end of the day Wednesday the ammonia got up to 2ppm, so yesterday (Thursday) I cleaned out my HOB sponges added new Polly Fill did a 30% water change a good gravel vac, added water condition, turned up my 2 sponge filters flow, and today Friday the water is crystal clear and the Ammonia is down to 0.25, 0 Nitrite, 10 Nitrate, I’m so glad! So today I won’t feed again and do a 25-30% water change, I still have 1 fish acting a little strange but better then he has the last few days, my arm is killing me from carrying buckets! Unfortunately this tank is in my basement the only tank I haul buckets 😬 the life of being a fish lover! Thanks so much for all your feed back it’s very much appreciated to have someone reach back out during the process when you need the help and not 3 months later, lol continue making those awesome videos that you do! I learn a lot from them, PS those neon blue guppy’s are beautiful!
Phew!!! Glad to hear things are on the mend. Ammonia spikes scare the stuffin' right out of me.
I can't find anything with nitrofurazone in it. It was one of the most effective meds. Do you have any alternatives?
There are several folks who sell nitrofurazone on Ebay: www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l2632&_nkw=nitrofurazone&_sacat=20754
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Where to purchase furan 2?
My Naso Tang was fine when I introduce him into the quartine and after treating (General Cure, Ich X and E. M. E) HE HAS GOTTEN PROGRESSIVLE WORSE AFTER TWO WEEKS...
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope he gets better soon.
@@DansFish thx, it died yesterday. I think it was my fault I added Prime to the tank while it had Cuprmine in it. Totally forgot u can't mix the too I believe. Or maybe I did back to back treatment of Ich X and General Cure without doing a WC? How do you spread out the Quarintine treatments?
Hi Dan, I'm still a beginner... Why do you use the salt? Is it necessary to use with the antibiotics? Thank you so much for your video! So helpful!
Salt helps a fish keep its osmotic balance correct. It takes a lot of energy for a freshwater fish to keep the fresh water surrounding it from rushing into its body. The fish is salty. The water is fresh. The fresh water wants to go into the fish to balance the equation. Adding salt to the water surrounding a fresh water fish makes it easier for the fish to prevent the fresh water from flowing in. Basically, it makes it so the fish's body does not have to work so hard. When fish are freshly imported and stressed, they can then take some of the energy they would normally be using to stop the fresh water influx and put it towards healing, recovering, and fighting illness.
Thanks!!
Quick questions from a newbie here. I've seen people recommending to have CYCLED tanks ready to quarantine and medicate fish. I saw that you sterilized your quarantine tanks and filled them up again with water. I see an air stone and water coming in. My question is: are those tanks cycled already? or are you using water from a cycled aquarium to fill the tanks? I did not see a sponge filter inside those tanks, but again, I have no idea if you have any other type of filtration going on. Could you clarify that for me? I just had to ask to better understand the process. Thanks.
If you are just going to do an observational quarantine on the fish, then, yes. A cycled tank is good. However, the antibiotics I use will kill the nitrifying bacteria which the cycle depends on. Because of this, I quarantine my fish in sterile, unfiltered, uncycled tanks. I change about 50% of the water daily to keep it clean and I don't feed the fish while medicating with antibiotics (unless they are emaciated) so their is no fish poop. No poop = no ammonia. No ammonia = no need to filter. This, of course, if temporary. After antibiotic treatment, they are moved to fully cycled, mature tanks and fed very well.
@@DansFish Thank you for clarifying. It makes sense. How long does this medication process take? (non-observational quarantine) Thanks for your prompt response. :)
Hey there Dan! Do you still recommend this method when buying fish from you?
I think keeping the fish in a well established aquarium by themselves and observing them for a couple of weeks to a month before adding them to an aquarium with other fish in it is probably the best quarantine method for the average hobbyist. I've found that hospital tanks and meds can be tricky for those unfamiliar with them, so I think observation is probably best.
Thanks@@DansFish
That was an in-depth video. Now a question for you, if I buy fish from you will they need a extreme quarantine or just the 2-3 weeks of viewing before adding them to the main aquarium
Robert,
That is a good question. Getting new fish is always a gamble. Quarantine mitigates that risk, but it does not eliminate it. It depends on the odds you want to gamble with. Usually, folks do great with fish they get from me and I think this is largely because of my quarantine/recover process. However, there are times when folks get fish from me and there is a problem. It is an inevitable, although infrequent, occurrence. It really is just a numbers game. I'd say it is always safer to quarantine new fish no matter where they come from, but the increased safety might be marginal. Knowing that, I'd say it is up to you...we all choose how we gamble.
So the 17 fish you didn't order but got anyway do you have to actually pay for them? Or will you be credited for them?
Yes, I have to pay for them. Well, I suppose I COULD send them back, but the shipping to do that and the stress it would add to the fish don't merit the refund.
Dans Fish so they can just send you anything in a bag and charge you for it even if you didn't order it? Is return shipping at least covered by them as it's their error?
@@lithabelle8001 You got it. And no, they don't cover shipping for returns. Getting the wrong fish in happens frequently...it is just part of the cost of doing business in this crazy industry.
Dans Fish wow so they just send you anything. It's like a bad lucky dip.
@@lithabelle8001 I order. They send. I get what I get. It's a strange business :)
I just looked this up the other day trying to decide if I really need to spend the money on medicines to quarantine or not. Never quarantined before, never medicated fish (nor had to).
It is one of those things that most folks don't do until they run into an issue. Once an entire tank of fish has been wiped out by the introduction of an un-quarantined specimen, folks quickly become really interested in quarantine. That being said, it is ALWAYS a gamble when we get new fish. Quarantine just strengthens our odds of a positive result. Everyone gambles in their own way, and that is fine. I choose to gamble with quarantine on my side and I think the results speak for themselves.
@@DansFish definitely. And customers appreciate it :)
After reading people's horror stories, I've realized how really lucky I've been in the past, especially getting fish from PetCo/Smart and Walmart.
I'll quarantine now, but my biggest dilemma is preventative treatment or not. I've been trying to weigh the pros and cons of each. On one hand, I don't want to stress out the fish by medicating for no reason; on the other, I might not be able to see if there is a reason or not. I don't want to have to clean out the whole tank if there's a parasite outbreak or something.
People do it different ways. Rachel O'leary is a pro, and, from what I understand, she prefers clean water, good food, and observation to meds. If I was not bringing in so many freshly imported fish at a time, I might just observe for a month or so before adding new fish to my other fish. My case is different from most hobbyists in that I am dealing with super stressed imports that have just been through the ringer. That's the reason I use meds.
Can you use hydrogen peroxide to sterilize infected sponge filters.
Yes. I use it all the time. Here's how I do it: Rinse out the sponge filter to get as much organic grunge out of it as possible, then run the sponge filter in a 5 gallon bucket with a cup or two of peroxide for a couple of hours. That should do the trick.
Thanks very much for information
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It's not overkill to wear a mask and gloves.
I inhaled perlite while mixing my own soil, and it was nasty.
Looks weird as you said, but it protects your lungs and skin.
Little talked about and less practiced , quarantine
It is a pain, but I don't know of a better way to keep the fishroom healthy.
The peroxide you buy from the drug or bis store is NOT strong enough to "eat through" your clothes. Where ever did you get that idea from?
Because I literally have clothes that peroxide from the store has eaten through.
Dude, you don't need to be so close to the camera.
But, Mr. Demille, I'm ready for my closeup!
@@DansFish LOL, you've already had it and cut. That's a wrap.