A little background for anyone interested about threadlocker or 'loctite'. Most people refer to blue as the medium and red as the permanent but they are unaware that different brands have different colors. Depending on the brand, the colors swap. The common companies are Loctite and Permatex. While Loctite blue is medium and red is permanent, Permatex red is medium and blue is permanent. Both brands have similar qualities but technically have slightly different specs. Either brand, both colors are great for vibrations but the permanent threadlocker needs heat to remove. Both brands (and others) actually have entire lists of different threadlocker for different applications but these two are the commonly found.
Great info. I've been looking at possible ways to beef up my '96 F150 4x4 and have decided to wait and see. I'm hoping my "topper\camper" will not be nearly as heavy as an actual camper.
If you over examine it you can drive yourself nuts. There are other brands of helper springs that don't cost as much that could help in conjunction with the Timbrens. A guy could check the wreckers too; there could be some new sets of any of these in there for mere peanuts. I think too that the Sumo Springs might have a bit of leveling capabilities if they fit up in there without any slack between the frame and rear end.
This canper specifically is for a 6'5ft bed correct? It still requires the tailgate down but its for the 6ft bed? Cause the 8ft version looks like its hang off the tailgate of an 8ft bed?
another option to helper springs is air bags, I haul a lot of scrap metal and Put super springs on my Chev, Colorado, they work great but they lifted the back up so my 6 foot ramp is now very steep, If I had gone with the air bags I could have let the air out lowering the tailgate to load my load then air them back up with my Ryobi 1 gallon air compressor. air bags or helper springs run about the same price, and help lift and stabilize the load.
Happy Independent Day! 4th of July. We recently got a popup. 5 trips. Most of the boondocking spots that we have gone so far have massive jaw jarring pot holes, rocks, and roots. Question? Your experience with the timbrens; did they help on this or make it worse? My study on this has been giving me mixed signals. Comments that a truck without load is much worse or even with, in one review. Your thoughts? Is this why you went with helper springs the second time?
We had sumo springs on our first truck which are the same as Timbrens and we loved them! They worked great! No issues what so ever. Helped a ton going over bumps keeps the load more level and less bouncy when going over bumps. I would definitely say get them. The only reason we didn’t get them for this truck was because we have a weird raised bump stop on out truck that came with the payload package and we were not sure if it would work with the Timbrens so we went with the helper springs. I liked the sumo springs a lot more. Easier to install and way lighter.
Sumo Springs I am loving them so far! Smoothed out the pot holes and wash board gravel F.S. roads I always choose to drive my approximately 1,100 lb. pop-up truck camper down. I haven’t had any experience without the camper or winter time yet. So time will tell if I still love them then. Thanks so much for your answering me. It was a big part of why I went with Sumo Springs. Thanks Again! Sorry about the passing of your dog!
I'm actually pretty shocked that a stock Ford F-150 can't handle the weight of that tiny camper! Guess I'll be getting the Tundra! Thanks for the tips!
It’s been 2 years since I researched trucks but my Chevy 1500 CC was 1580 and the F150 was around that. My camper is similar to his and it weighs 1320 with no cargo or passengers. Add me, my wife and cargo and its another 900lbs. That’s with no water or my new solar. So legally none of the 1500 I looked at could carry it. That’s why I went f250.
A little background for anyone interested about threadlocker or 'loctite'. Most people refer to blue as the medium and red as the permanent but they are unaware that different brands have different colors. Depending on the brand, the colors swap. The common companies are Loctite and Permatex. While Loctite blue is medium and red is permanent, Permatex red is medium and blue is permanent. Both brands have similar qualities but technically have slightly different specs. Either brand, both colors are great for vibrations but the permanent threadlocker needs heat to remove. Both brands (and others) actually have entire lists of different threadlocker for different applications but these two are the commonly found.
Great info. I've been looking at possible ways to beef up my '96 F150 4x4 and have decided to wait and see. I'm hoping my "topper\camper" will not be nearly as heavy as an actual camper.
Hi Paradise, I think going with the helper springs is a good call.. instead of the propylene body mounts..
Do the helper springs help with the movement while walking around in the camper?
If you over examine it you can drive yourself nuts. There are other brands of helper springs that don't cost as much that could help in conjunction with the Timbrens. A guy could check the wreckers too; there could be some new sets of any of these in there for mere peanuts.
I think too that the Sumo Springs might have a bit of leveling capabilities if they fit up in there without any slack between the frame and rear end.
This canper specifically is for a 6'5ft bed correct? It still requires the tailgate down but its for the 6ft bed? Cause the 8ft version looks like its hang off the tailgate of an 8ft bed?
another option to helper springs is air bags, I haul a lot of scrap metal and Put super springs on my Chev, Colorado, they work great but they lifted the back up so my 6 foot ramp is now very steep, If I had gone with the air bags I could have let the air out lowering the tailgate to load my load then air them back up with my Ryobi 1 gallon air compressor. air bags or helper springs run about the same price, and help lift and stabilize the load.
Yep! We didn’t like air bags just because they could bust and we were gonna have weight in the bed all the time so it didn’t seem worth it.
I thought this was going to be about remote hotsprings. 😀
Happy Independent Day! 4th of July. We recently got a popup. 5 trips. Most of the boondocking spots that we have gone so far have massive jaw jarring pot holes, rocks, and roots. Question? Your experience with the timbrens; did they help on this or make it worse? My study on this has been giving me mixed signals. Comments that a truck without load is much worse or even with, in one review. Your thoughts? Is this why you went with helper springs the second time?
We had sumo springs on our first truck which are the same as Timbrens and we loved them! They worked great! No issues what so ever. Helped a ton going over bumps keeps the load more level and less bouncy when going over bumps. I would definitely say get them. The only reason we didn’t get them for this truck was because we have a weird raised bump stop on out truck that came with the payload package and we were not sure if it would work with the Timbrens so we went with the helper springs. I liked the sumo springs a lot more. Easier to install and way lighter.
Thanks so much!!!
Sumo Springs
I am loving them so far! Smoothed out the pot holes and wash board gravel F.S. roads I always choose to drive my approximately 1,100 lb. pop-up truck camper down. I haven’t had any experience without the camper or winter time yet. So time will tell if I still love them then. Thanks so much for your answering me. It was a big part of why I went with Sumo Springs. Thanks Again! Sorry about the passing of your dog!
As a long time mechanic, I would say helper springs is a good way to go. It will give you a great deal more stability. >Merton 😎👌✌
I'm actually pretty shocked that a stock Ford F-150 can't handle the weight of that tiny camper! Guess I'll be getting the Tundra! Thanks for the tips!
The F150’s CC was more than a Tundra but both can carry the weigh but legally is another question. That’s why I went with a F250.
@@Enjoytheinbetween Everything I'm seeing indicates the Tundra can carry at least 500 pounds more plus double the towing capacity.
It’s been 2 years since I researched trucks but my Chevy 1500 CC was 1580 and the F150 was around that. My camper is similar to his and it weighs 1320 with no cargo or passengers. Add me, my wife and cargo and its another 900lbs. That’s with no water or my new solar. So legally none of the 1500 I looked at could carry it. That’s why I went f250.
@@RagnarRockspayload is 500 more? Must be a bare bone Tundra single cab