Can you outline what the real world risks are for using a smartphone that's not getting security updates - how serious a problem can it be? The OS update have usually been an anti-climax for me, but security is a worry - are the threats real ?
Did this dude say he likes the Moto G stylus over the S-Pen? You ever think maybe you are just a mix range user? You basically compared A bic pen with a Mont Blanc. You must have a very loooooooooooow bar.
While I understand your point, I don't expect to use a $400 phone for decades. One upgrade is enough for the length of time I expect to use this phone. Good value overall.
I just bought this phone. Yes, getting updates is important, but man the phone just works. The chipset appears to be just right for its software. It doesn't get hot and I can go 1.5 day with one charge. I dont do a lot of gaming, but I use it as my back up for work on a bunch of communications apps, so I am on it frequently. Its light and the back cover is great to the touch. The screen...man I love it. Overall....9.0/10.
As someone who shops in this exact segment, I wrestle with this issue every time I start looking for a new phone. But one thing I have came to the realization of is I almost always am in the market for a new device before I ever reach E.O.L. for whatever current phone I'm using. I know my use case is probably different than many, but that's the best argument I can make as to why Moto hasn't revised their software update policy yet. They have numbers that I'm not privy to, and they must have come to the conclusion that it's a better strategy to keep (arguably)better hardware on their G Stylus instead of offering longer support since the majority of people end upgrading their devices before the 2 year mark.
It still has 5 years of security update support. Maybe the OS itself won’t evolutionist so much for the phone but at least it’ll remain protected long enough to save for a good flagship phone over time. And honestly you can tell already that much changes won’t need to be made
I was yelling the exact same thing as I was watching this video. The last few (and probably any future) android versions have not given us anything earth shattering. This phone ships with android 14 and will probably update to 15 next year and will get security updates for another few years. That is just fine. I am a cheap fuck and I hold on to my phones for YEARS. Until they just don't work anymore and I have never kept a phone longer than 3 years. After 3 years the charging ports fail, the battery life has deteriorated and probably there is a crack on the screen. Time to replace anyway. Sure, I'm buying "budget" phones but they do what I need and I can replace them 2, 3, or even 4 times and still have spent less than a top of the line samsung or iphone.
It sure does matter. I have a 2020 Moto g stylus that stopped getting security updates a year ago. Two weeks ago my phone was hacked. I went to get a new phone, but they have all my pictures and passwords. I had to change all my passwords
Because they are reviewing the phone. Most of these reviews will never daily drive the device, so the initial hand feel is what they rate. That's the only time they'll probably pick up the phone is when they're doing the review.
It doesn't matter to me if it gets one update or not. Most of the time I don't care about the updates. I only keep a phone for 2 years the max anyway so I love this phone
Sorry but my older Motorola Edge 2022 got new software. What I heard is one more, OS 15 software. So go ahead and run from them and few will stick with Motorola.
Motorola doesnt need to give any update bc their hardware/software is just perfect as it comes. I hate to buy a phone as it is then a update changes thing or make it worse like samsung ....motorola doing great...
I enjoyed this video. Good stuff. But I can't see the advantage of always on display. And for people like me who drop their phone constantly and never keep long enough for the OS updates to matter. A headphone jack and sd expansion slots are steep ransom to pay for a long update policy.
I love this phone has headphone jack, sd card slot, fm radio app and stylus support. I wish i could buy it across the pond! I do not give a rats arse about update, i am so envious that americans are getting this. I wish moto sold it here.
So long as everything still works I'm not sure the updates are such an issue. Too many times a major update has made my phone worse IMO and then it's really hard to revert back or you have no security software support if you do. For a midrange device like this better to have stable functionality than the odd new feature. This is relying on android 15 being good of course.
I agree, the updates OS updates aren't a big deal. I am still on android 11 with my moto ace. Updates for this phone stopped over a year ago. This phone is best bang for the buck especially if you catch on a sale. I usually keep my phones for 3 years or so. I will pick this up in the fall.
See, glad you see it from some smart people standpoint. Those who complain about a cheaper but reliable phone like Motorola don't understand it, do they. Nope. Those who complain about no OS update, are the same who want new phone. Shit go Samsung or Pixel. Saving is the name of the game. Motorola done that in the beginning. Well not really, there are others in the market but Motorola has been more reliable than other Chinese brands. I don't go buying new release Motorola phone though, I wait a bit. Wait for some deal or price drop. My Edge 2022 with the same OS has been very reliable and even the last 2020 Motorola Stylus was a badass, have to have this Edge because I needed speed back then.
@@devilkazumi578it's because you either have the top of the line Android phone that can support it. Yes it true that some Motorola has issue with OS upgrade before, but remember, they were cheap. So again the OP proves his point. I am one of the truth. My current phone, 2022 edge have one OS upgraded and has been nice. But my prior older stylus , had the update including my daughter and son, it was buggy, lagging, and so on. The reason I went to Edge 2022, about 2 years for the Stylus.
Some nice features in this phone! People that don't know/care about android updates, or maybe really loyal Motorola fans, may be attracted to this phone, due to those features and the software and hardware quality. But I think it will be an easier sell when this price drops a bit. I loved my Motorola G(8) Power (2020), but once security updates ended for it, I wasn't considering a similar Motorola replacement for my daily driver because of their history of sparse android and security updates (although I did also buy the ThinkPhone, for which more updates were promised (we'll see!)).
Pretty much the situatuon with my nord n200, oxygen os 11 was pretty good along with the other os features completely gutted or made worse with the android 12 update and into a clunky mess that is color os 12 @@admiralkrankandhismightyba158
You are correct, as long Motorola has the Thinkphone in the phone, expect software update. My 2022 Edge still working and just got the 14 OS. They expected to go into OS 15. People sleep on Motorola. This Stylus will get at least 2-3 OS update.
This is a great phone and possibly the best Stylus phone that Motorola has made yet. They needed to add a higher IP rating and extended software support at least a little bit and this phone would’ve been perfect. Even with those cons, I’m considering getting this phone. I’m a huge fan of Motorola phones and they just work well. I’m not a fan of always on displays because they tend to drain battery so I prefer peek display.
I have 2 Motorola phones my Moto g stylus 2023 & Moto Edge 2023 as my daily driver & Stylus 2023 as backup. My Stylus 2023 just got Android 14 thru Cricket Wireless. But the drawbacks on it are the 4 gigs of ram & the speakers are not as good as on my Stylus 2023 which is still running Android 13. I I'm seriously considering the Pixel 8a getting it around Christmas.
System updates are pretty much the same nowadays. I have a motorola g stylus 2022 with android 13 and pixel 6a with android 15. It is pretty much the same thing. 13, 14, 15? Pretty much the same. I think people assume every system update is better and that isn't the truth. In the past, we would see significant change but not now.
I got mine a couple of days ago in Caramel Latte w/256bg of internal storage. I really like it. And maybe if us Moto-Lovers complain enough they'll get us at least 3yrs of support,lol.😅
1 major upgrade? That's unacceptable, this is one of the reasons of why I stopped using motorola phones, even samsung budget phones are getting 4 major updates. Motorola is pathetic
@@davidmurling4252 Even though a lot of people you know do it doesn't mean that everyone wants to do that. The more times you replace a smartphone then that's more money used for replacements. Some people are fine holding onto phones for longer periods of time.
I'd rather not get the update if it bricks the phone time after time with Samsung they hit me with a final update that forces you to give it up, Moto will last
The only motorola phones that come with more than one major software update multiple years of Android is the Edge series, the Razor series, and the think phone. The G series never had more than one android update. They all come with at least three years of security updates. Come on! You knew that already.
Yes, and like I said, that was ok back in the day. Google used to offer three for years, now we have 7. Things change. Cars used to not have airbags for years too, should we not get those either because they never had that before? Please.
I'm interested in this phone but the only negative I have that this guy pointed out is the Always on Display. I need that feature, I could care less about the updates because that's the same reason I want to leave Samsung. All they do is break their phones and remove features that I love using because of their stupid OS updates.
I have this phone and yes it doesn't have "always on" but I can (and have) set the screen timeout to 30 minutes and turned on the Attentive display on so that the phone will sit for 29:59 without turning the screen of if I set it down and don't look at it, which will never happen. I don't understand why this isn't as close to always on as you need to get.
@richg0404 Yeah, that's a feature I have to have and I bought the phone and didn't like it and the cameras were terrible lol I returned it on Amazon and instead bought a Note 10+ on eBay for a great deal. I'm enjoying the phone and it's a million times better than my previous phone, the A71 5G.
I got this phone a month ago and love it. The screen is absolutely beautiful and amazing. Clearly visible in direct sunlight. The phone goes faster than my finger can tap. It runs smoothly in all apps & games ive played. Camera also great. I got the 128gb/ 8gn ram for $199.99 fyi has all specs as 256gb. The storage is only difference.
I have an old trade-in sitting in the drawer so with in total I would only end up paying $220 for this phone and I only need it for the headphone jack and the expandable memory because I need to be able to check my trail camera cards right from my phone when I'm in the woods would be super helpful. And my motorcycle stereo uses a headphone jack so I've been using a dongle now I could get rid of the dongle if I get this mostly just for the music on the bike
Then look at Samsung and Pixel. I hear this complaint everywhere. Like seriously. Go lease to own(or cash out) with Samsung or Pixel if you want the yearly OS or whatever update. Seriously. I prefer to keep my Motorola phone for 2-3 years and then upgrade. Best investment even without the yearly OS update. You do the thinking how you prefer keeping your phone. 3-5 years. Then go with Samsung or Pixel unless, you are like those leasers that upgrade every year. Makes no sense to have the new phone every year. Motorola has been the best bang even without the upgrade. I normally upgrade my Motorola 3 years. Easy on my pocket.
I just updated from moto G stylus 5s 2021 too2024 went from android 11-14 and could not see the difference between them on MOTO OS. The three years of security updates is much more valuable than the incremental tweeks in the android OS changes today.
@@bassyey if Verizon, T-Mobile and ATT pick all Motorola lineup of phones, Motorola will have the capability to offer us the OS. Think about that. What the fucc you talking about.
The even MORE bizarre thing is that the Edge 50 Fusion, for the same money (except for the stylus, headphone jack, microSD card slot and wireless charging absent on the Fusion) is BETTER in every other aspect, and should get 3 OS updates and 4 years of security patches. It's just bizarre.
The phone is 249 US on Jan 8th 2025 on Amazon ..for a 2024 5G 256 / 8 gig model. Is the 1 year upgrade a result of their lawsuit... maybe. Did they figure to sell as many as possible that dropping price and upgrade to $ 249.00 keep them solvent.. till lawsuit is settled in April 2025 ?
Out of all the g series phones this is one of three g series that are inching closer to entry level flagship back a couple years ago I had the privilege of having one of the first g series quote unquote flagship it was the Moto g100 if anyone remembers it has the Snapdragon 870 which was basically an overclocked 865 plus that phone was fast. In the second one was the g200 which we never got here stateside
Hi. Thanks for the video. How is the on-screen fingerprint scanner? This is the only thing giving me pause. Also, is it dual sim (dual standby)? Nana + esim? Appreciate your time.
I have this phone and love the on screen fingerprint scanner. He mentions it in one of his other videos that it’s really excellent. I use it more than my iPhone 13 Pro Max because I’m sick of the face recognition on the iPhone you’ll be impressed if you get one.
I have been using mine through a waterproof case with a built in screen protector, along with an already added screen protector to the phone itself and it works really well even if my fingers are dirty. I fish a lot and my hands constantly have dirt on them.
The point isn't people keeping the phone for seven years, although more people than you think do. As long as it keeps basic functionality, a large group of people are happy. Longer software updates help that. In addition, it helps resale value, a phone still in software support fetches more than one that is no longer supported. Why are so many people NOT in favor of more support? Other companies offer it, so should Moto, it doesn't hurt anyone and should be pointed out. More support is always going to be better.
I have a Samsung phone and I don't even use the always on display on that I've got it set as what is it tap to show or whatever Samsung calls it but you don't need and always on display there's no reason to have your phone screen lit up when you're not doing anything on it I always thought that was just totally asinine
Ok but that’s the point, you can see if you got a notification worth opening the phone for or it’s nonsense. Just because you don’t use it doesn’t mean everyone else shouldn’t have the option.
You can get these through prepaid carriers for cheaper at least, bought my current 2021 Stylus 5G for $149 when it launched ($399 retail) I'm just waiting for my carrier to get the 2024 model especially since security updates ended for the 2021 model. 2024 Stylus looks like a nice upgrade specs wise.
For a phone that costs $250 or less, unlocked and brand new (at the time of writing this anyways) I don't feel like 1 major os update and 3 years of security is a huge disappointment. I've never had too good of an experience with multiple big OS updates on phones running lower end hardware anyways, it almost always causes much undesired lag. Obviously, this is just me personally and I'm sure some people are planning to keep it for years, but I usually don't keep a phone longer than two years even if it's a flagship. Good review though
Thank you for taking the time to record a review. I shall play this video back a few times, as I need to become aclamated to my Motorola Moto 5G Stylus (2023).
Sorry bud. But most people don’t care about the always on display and that major upgrade beyond one. I mean it’s a $300 phone man. What do you want for it. That’s nothing. The phone is practically free, and otherwise great. I can’t stand that always on display, it’s annoying and drains your battery.
Motorola has always been all over the place with their updates. My old moto X4 received two major OS updates yet the Z3 the flagship at the time received only one OS update.
Not seen my oppo update for yonks something I'm not bothered about tbh ... this phone looks nice though nice features to be had I'm seriously thinking of getting this as I hate the curved screen on mine drives me nuts !
I dig this phone I got the Carmel latte I had the a54 galaxy not impressed and I like the wireless charging with the stylus but I am no techie works great I get a new phone about every year in a half too 2 years anyways
_Here's how I see it. I just bought this phone Aug. 8, 2024 and it came with Android 14. I suspect I'm entitled to an OS upgrade to Android 15 (codenamed _*_Vanilla Ice Cream_*_ ) when it becomes available. So, after Android 15, that's it for this specific phone, until Android 16._
@@StevealiciousTech _I think I understand your query. The OS upgrade will be just an upgrade to Android 14. Not an upgrade from an old OS (14) to a new OS (15). If that's true then that's a real bummer._
i can live with the one major android upgrade on this phone because i only paid 99$ for mine! mine is the straight talk one and walmart was offering litteraly 100$ off if you signed up for walmart plus and bought it which is exactly what i did!
As android versions change if your phone doesn't update to newer version it eventually will stop working and run like crap. This way you have to buy a new phone in another year maybe 2.i use my phones for about 5 years and usually change them when I get locked out by the software not updating
The lack of software updates is a dead give away, that Moto sees this as basically a 1-2 yr phone. Not good!!! I have the Moto G Power 5G 2024, and it's not even living up to the "Power" label. My Moto G Power 2020 was , way better battery wise.
I’ve watched a few videos on this phone so far. And I’ve heard 3, 4 or 5 years of security updates. I have no idea who’s right or not 😂 but maybe the lack of support is due to this phone just being a stepping stone for an even better version of the moto g stylus coming soon? Within the next year or two? It’s a great phone, I wouldn’t be able to see why they aren’t headed towards turning this into a flagship phone. Especially considering how good this product is
These phones are very capable of 5 years of android updates...it's sad that Motorola only updates 1 version. I will probaby go with a Samsung phone next...
I've been using Android 11 on my Moto G Stylus 2021 for years without issue. I always install a security app though (on any phone). To me its not a huge deal to not have updates for a new Android version. Plus phones don't last forever, you tend to replace then after a few years. I'm upgrading to a new phone this year but I could care less about Android updates.
I have to get it I accidentally smashed my other phone and this one is what I can afford barely . So one year it is then I'll probably upgrade to the moto g stylus and 2025
Right on, as usual, Steve! With the sorely lacking support, the entire package is soured. With adding the P-OLED @ 1200 nits, 8GB RAM, OIS on the main lens, & wireless charging, Moto has finally addressed all the deficiencies, and the market so desperately needs a budget stylus phone! It's simply baffling to me why Motorola just won't stand up and commit to supporting their phones for 5 yrs!!! It would only help their bottom-line. 🤦🏼♂️
@@admiralkrankandhismightyba158 Yep, coming up on 3 years w/ my Surface Duo 2. Wife is still using the SG S20 FE. Replaced my kids SG S10e's recently. I use devices until support ends.
@@bricequirl that's cool. Wish I could say the same. My wife is like that. I'm just curious how many people like me drop their phone and use the heck out of them so that they don't last even two years.
Gorilla glass "Corning" doesn't have a patent on double doped silica. I can make it in my garage pretty easily. It was invented in west Germany shortly after WW2.
I have the Motoi g power 5g 2023 that came with Android 13, and it was supposed to upgrade to 14 by now. What happened? This is August and still no 14 upgrade.
I just bought this phone for $43 that’s with tax I have a iPhone 11 I know about the 1 year update but I plan to use this phone for a year or 2 and buy another phone I will use this time to see what I’ll get next
brother let just hope they at least give that because ...moto is always late or seems like the updates are never going to come for the moto devices when rest pop brands are efficient and almost on time on their promises
It wouldn't be disappointing if the phone weren't excellent to begin with.
Can you outline what the real world risks are for using a smartphone that's not getting security updates - how serious a problem can it be? The OS update have usually been an anti-climax for me, but security is a worry - are the threats real ?
@@owlreveal It will get three years of bi-monthly security updates.
Did this dude say he likes the Moto G stylus over the S-Pen? You ever think maybe you are just a mix range user? You basically compared A bic pen with a Mont Blanc. You must have a very loooooooooooow bar.
@@PastorErickMiller no, I said I prefer the pen suite of apps on the Moto, not the pen itself. And I prefer spending $800 less. It’s all a balance.
While I understand your point, I don't expect to use a $400 phone for decades. One upgrade is enough for the length of time I expect to use this phone. Good value overall.
I just bought this phone. Yes, getting updates is important, but man the phone just works. The chipset appears to be just right for its software. It doesn't get hot and I can go 1.5 day with one charge. I dont do a lot of gaming, but I use it as my back up for work on a bunch of communications apps, so I am on it frequently. Its light and the back cover is great to the touch. The screen...man I love it. Overall....9.0/10.
The screen is gorgeous for the money.
Android has matured to the point where software updates don't really mean much, but one year of an OS upgrade shouldn't still be happening
As someone who shops in this exact segment, I wrestle with this issue every time I start looking for a new phone. But one thing I have came to the realization of is I almost always am in the market for a new device before I ever reach E.O.L. for whatever current phone I'm using.
I know my use case is probably different than many, but that's the best argument I can make as to why Moto hasn't revised their software update policy yet. They have numbers that I'm not privy to, and they must have come to the conclusion that it's a better strategy to keep (arguably)better hardware on their G Stylus instead of offering longer support since the majority of people end upgrading their devices before the 2 year mark.
It still has 5 years of security update support. Maybe the OS itself won’t evolutionist so much for the phone but at least it’ll remain protected long enough to save for a good flagship phone over time. And honestly you can tell already that much changes won’t need to be made
@@valentinoesparza2399My main point aswell
I dont care about getting Android 15 aka ios
I was yelling the exact same thing as I was watching this video. The last few (and probably any future) android versions have not given us anything earth shattering.
This phone ships with android 14 and will probably update to 15 next year and will get security updates for another few years. That is just fine.
I am a cheap fuck and I hold on to my phones for YEARS. Until they just don't work anymore and I have never kept a phone longer than 3 years. After 3 years the charging ports fail, the battery life has deteriorated and probably there is a crack on the screen. Time to replace anyway.
Sure, I'm buying "budget" phones but they do what I need and I can replace them 2, 3, or even 4 times and still have spent less than a top of the line samsung or iphone.
It sure does matter. I have a 2020 Moto g stylus that stopped getting security updates a year ago. Two weeks ago my phone was hacked. I went to get a new phone, but they have all my pictures and passwords. I had to change all my passwords
I dont understand the always on complaint when loads of always on display apps exist for free in the Google Play Store.
Why do all the reviewers gloat over the backing texture; 99% will get "armored" cases anyway!
Because they are reviewing the phone. Most of these reviews will never daily drive the device, so the initial hand feel is what they rate. That's the only time they'll probably pick up the phone is when they're doing the review.
It's not 99%. No different than the % that never use extra camera features that reviews fixate on.
It doesn't matter to me if it gets one update or not. Most of the time I don't care about the updates. I only keep a phone for 2 years the max anyway so I love this phone
Phones like this is why the pixel 8a can't be 400 bucks
One year of os updates is crazy
But in my region it supports 3 years of OS and 4 years of security updates
What region?@@ahadshaikh368
@@ahadshaikh368what country are in?
@@Ansell417India
Sorry but my older Motorola Edge 2022 got new software. What I heard is one more, OS 15 software.
So go ahead and run from them and few will stick with Motorola.
Motorola doesnt need to give any update bc their hardware/software is just perfect as it comes. I hate to buy a phone as it is then a update changes thing or make it worse like samsung ....motorola doing great...
I enjoyed this video. Good stuff.
But I can't see the advantage of always on display. And for people like me who drop their phone constantly and never keep long enough for the OS updates to matter. A headphone jack and sd expansion slots are steep ransom to pay for a long update policy.
I love this phone has headphone jack, sd card slot, fm radio app and stylus support. I wish i could buy it across the pond! I do not give a rats arse about update, i am so envious that americans are getting this. I wish moto sold it here.
I don't mind being I got 8 ram for $100. I can afford to buy another phone next year.
So long as everything still works I'm not sure the updates are such an issue. Too many times a major update has made my phone worse IMO and then it's really hard to revert back or you have no security software support if you do. For a midrange device like this better to have stable functionality than the odd new feature. This is relying on android 15 being good of course.
I've never had any issues with android updates tbh
I agree, the updates OS updates aren't a big deal. I am still on android 11 with my moto ace. Updates for this phone stopped over a year ago. This phone is best bang for the buck especially if you catch on a sale. I usually keep my phones for 3 years or so. I will pick this up in the fall.
See, glad you see it from some smart people standpoint.
Those who complain about a cheaper but reliable phone like Motorola don't understand it, do they. Nope.
Those who complain about no OS update, are the same who want new phone. Shit go Samsung or Pixel. Saving is the name of the game. Motorola done that in the beginning. Well not really, there are others in the market but Motorola has been more reliable than other Chinese brands.
I don't go buying new release Motorola phone though, I wait a bit. Wait for some deal or price drop. My Edge 2022 with the same OS has been very reliable and even the last 2020 Motorola Stylus was a badass, have to have this Edge because I needed speed back then.
@@devilkazumi578it's because you either have the top of the line Android phone that can support it. Yes it true that some Motorola has issue with OS upgrade before, but remember, they were cheap.
So again the OP proves his point. I am one of the truth.
My current phone, 2022 edge have one OS upgraded and has been nice. But my prior older stylus , had the update including my daughter and son, it was buggy, lagging, and so on. The reason I went to Edge 2022, about 2 years for the Stylus.
@DSPNWtoCali even some flagships get bad updates sometimes that require a later bug fix I've just been lucky I guess haha
Some nice features in this phone! People that don't know/care about android updates, or maybe really loyal Motorola fans, may be attracted to this phone, due to those features and the software and hardware quality. But I think it will be an easier sell when this price drops a bit. I loved my Motorola G(8) Power (2020), but once security updates ended for it, I wasn't considering a similar Motorola replacement for my daily driver because of their history of sparse android and security updates (although I did also buy the ThinkPhone, for which more updates were promised (we'll see!)).
ThinkPhone has been doing well so far with updates. It's what made this one so confusing
Android updates are low priority for me and I dislike always on screens as is, so I'll probably pick it up
@@bungersinyourareaexactly. I like my money more than an AOD or a lousy OS update
Pretty much the situatuon with my nord n200, oxygen os 11 was pretty good along with the other os features completely gutted or made worse with the android 12 update and into a clunky mess that is color os 12 @@admiralkrankandhismightyba158
You are correct, as long Motorola has the Thinkphone in the phone, expect software update.
My 2022 Edge still working and just got the 14 OS. They expected to go into OS 15.
People sleep on Motorola. This Stylus will get at least 2-3 OS update.
This is a great phone and possibly the best Stylus phone that Motorola has made yet. They needed to add a higher IP rating and extended software support at least a little bit and this phone would’ve been perfect. Even with those cons, I’m considering getting this phone. I’m a huge fan of Motorola phones and they just work well. I’m not a fan of always on displays because they tend to drain battery so I prefer peek display.
I'm gonna get it , just cause I like cheap phones , if I break it or lose it it won't be a big loss , but it looks like it's got all that I need.
I have 2 Motorola phones my Moto g stylus 2023 & Moto Edge 2023 as my daily driver & Stylus 2023 as backup. My Stylus 2023 just got Android 14 thru Cricket Wireless. But the drawbacks on it are the 4 gigs of ram & the speakers are not as good as on my Stylus 2023 which is still running Android 13. I I'm seriously considering the Pixel 8a getting it around Christmas.
I can't tell one version of Android from another..the changes are all small incremental things.
has a 3.5 jack and microSD expandable storage 🙂🙂🙂🙂
Your points are so valid.
I don't understand why they don't have longer support.
Watching this on my 2024 g stylus. I paid $35 from Metro and using it on T-Mobile.
Can’t beat that!
Ill never know about the lack of updates....i always hate it when my phones got updated....screwed up a format i liked
The update support is atrocious. This is a key reason I stopped using all motorola phones. They really need to update their A game.
It's pretty bad!
System updates are pretty much the same nowadays. I have a motorola g stylus 2022 with android 13 and pixel 6a with android 15. It is pretty much the same thing. 13, 14, 15? Pretty much the same. I think people assume every system update is better and that isn't the truth. In the past, we would see significant change but not now.
I got mine a couple of days ago in Caramel Latte w/256bg of internal storage. I really like it. And maybe if us Moto-Lovers complain enough they'll get us at least 3yrs of support,lol.😅
We can hope! Nice phone for sure!
1 major upgrade? That's unacceptable, this is one of the reasons of why I stopped using motorola phones, even samsung budget phones are getting 4 major updates. Motorola is pathetic
Major updates can slow down a phone. Three years of security updates is sufficient. I wouldn't use the phone as a primary driver longer than that
@@muaddib878 I guess it depends on the phone. Add my Samsung note 20 for four years. It still work great until I traded in this year
A lot of the people I know upgrade their phone every couple of years anyway
@@davidmurling4252 Even though a lot of people you know do it doesn't mean that everyone wants to do that. The more times you replace a smartphone then that's more money used for replacements. Some people are fine holding onto phones for longer periods of time.
I'd rather not get the update if it bricks the phone time after time with Samsung they hit me with a final update that forces you to give it up, Moto will last
The only motorola phones that come with more than one major software update multiple years of Android is the Edge series, the Razor series, and the think phone. The G series never had more than one android update. They all come with at least three years of security updates. Come on! You knew that already.
Yes, and like I said, that was ok back in the day. Google used to offer three for years, now we have 7. Things change. Cars used to not have airbags for years too, should we not get those either because they never had that before? Please.
@@StevealiciousTech Do people really keep their phones for 7 years?
@@tapeo1most people do not. The amount of time people have kept their phones has increased. Think it's something like 3 or 4 years now.
I'm interested in this phone but the only negative I have that this guy pointed out is the Always on Display. I need that feature, I could care less about the updates because that's the same reason I want to leave Samsung. All they do is break their phones and remove features that I love using because of their stupid OS updates.
I have this phone and yes it doesn't have "always on" but I can (and have) set the screen timeout to 30 minutes and turned on the Attentive display on so that the phone will sit for 29:59 without turning the screen of if I set it down and don't look at it, which will never happen.
I don't understand why this isn't as close to always on as you need to get.
@richg0404 Yeah, that's a feature I have to have and I bought the phone and didn't like it and the cameras were terrible lol I returned it on Amazon and instead bought a Note 10+ on eBay for a great deal. I'm enjoying the phone and it's a million times better than my previous phone, the A71 5G.
I got this phone a month ago and love it. The screen is absolutely beautiful and amazing. Clearly visible in direct sunlight. The phone goes faster than my finger can tap. It runs smoothly in all apps & games ive played. Camera also great.
I got the 128gb/ 8gn ram for $199.99 fyi has all specs as 256gb. The storage is only difference.
I have an old trade-in sitting in the drawer so with in total I would only end up paying $220 for this phone and I only need it for the headphone jack and the expandable memory because I need to be able to check my trail camera cards right from my phone when I'm in the woods would be super helpful. And my motorcycle stereo uses a headphone jack so I've been using a dongle now I could get rid of the dongle if I get this mostly just for the music on the bike
I wanted the 2024 Moto G Stylus 5g.. but the one year update is a deal breaker, unfortunately.
Then look at Samsung and Pixel. I hear this complaint everywhere. Like seriously.
Go lease to own(or cash out) with Samsung or Pixel if you want the yearly OS or whatever update. Seriously.
I prefer to keep my Motorola phone for 2-3 years and then upgrade. Best investment even without the yearly OS update.
You do the thinking how you prefer keeping your phone. 3-5 years. Then go with Samsung or Pixel unless, you are like those leasers that upgrade every year. Makes no sense to have the new phone every year.
Motorola has been the best bang even without the upgrade. I normally upgrade my Motorola 3 years. Easy on my pocket.
I just updated from moto G stylus 5s 2021 too2024 went from android 11-14 and could not see the difference between them on MOTO OS. The three years of security updates is much more valuable than the incremental tweeks in the android OS changes today.
@@DSPNWtoCali wtf are you saying? Samsung offers 5 years of update on their 350 USD. phone. Nobody is leasing 350.
@@bassyey if Verizon, T-Mobile and ATT pick all Motorola lineup of phones, Motorola will have the capability to offer us the OS.
Think about that. What the fucc you talking about.
The even MORE bizarre thing is that the Edge 50 Fusion, for the same money (except for the stylus, headphone jack, microSD card slot and wireless charging absent on the Fusion) is BETTER in every other aspect, and should get 3 OS updates and 4 years of security patches. It's just bizarre.
The phone is 249 US on Jan 8th 2025 on Amazon ..for a 2024 5G 256 / 8 gig model. Is the 1 year upgrade a result of their lawsuit... maybe. Did they figure to sell as many as possible that dropping price and upgrade to $ 249.00 keep them solvent.. till lawsuit is settled in April 2025 ?
Out of all the g series phones this is one of three g series that are inching closer to entry level flagship back a couple years ago I had the privilege of having one of the first g series quote unquote flagship it was the Moto g100 if anyone remembers it has the Snapdragon 870 which was basically an overclocked 865 plus that phone was fast. In the second one was the g200 which we never got here stateside
Hi. Thanks for the video. How is the on-screen fingerprint scanner? This is the only thing giving me pause. Also, is it dual sim (dual standby)? Nana + esim? Appreciate your time.
I have this phone and love the on screen fingerprint scanner. He mentions it in one of his other videos that it’s really excellent. I use it more than my iPhone 13 Pro Max because I’m sick of the face recognition on the iPhone you’ll be impressed if you get one.
I have been using mine through a waterproof case with a built in screen protector, along with an already added screen protector to the phone itself and it works really well even if my fingers are dirty. I fish a lot and my hands constantly have dirt on them.
Why would some phones get 7 years of updates. Who is going to be using a phone as their daily driver for that long? What's the point?
The point isn't people keeping the phone for seven years, although more people than you think do. As long as it keeps basic functionality, a large group of people are happy. Longer software updates help that. In addition, it helps resale value, a phone still in software support fetches more than one that is no longer supported. Why are so many people NOT in favor of more support? Other companies offer it, so should Moto, it doesn't hurt anyone and should be pointed out. More support is always going to be better.
*hides my iphone 6* No one
I'm still using my galaxy J7 Prime. It's from 2014 so 10 years.
I'm pay $259.99 in Metro pcs and the true is nice phone. Who knows, Motorola may continue adding updates.
I hope so! But nice phone for sure.
I kind of wish Motorola would've kept the name Moto X and labeled this phone Moto X Stylus 5G.
One thing I am wondering is if the stylus pen is pressure sensitive which is utilized with other apps like ibis paint x.
Any having issues with camera not focusing?
I should have bought the Stylus. I bought the moto g 5G 2023. I could have bought the Stylus 2024 for $40 more on a 4th of July sale at Best buy.
I have a Samsung phone and I don't even use the always on display on that I've got it set as what is it tap to show or whatever Samsung calls it but you don't need and always on display there's no reason to have your phone screen lit up when you're not doing anything on it I always thought that was just totally asinine
Ok but that’s the point, you can see if you got a notification worth opening the phone for or it’s nonsense. Just because you don’t use it doesn’t mean everyone else shouldn’t have the option.
You can get these through prepaid carriers for cheaper at least, bought my current 2021 Stylus 5G for $149 when it launched ($399 retail) I'm just waiting for my carrier to get the 2024 model especially since security updates ended for the 2021 model. 2024 Stylus looks like a nice upgrade specs wise.
For a phone that costs $250 or less, unlocked and brand new (at the time of writing this anyways) I don't feel like 1 major os update and 3 years of security is a huge disappointment. I've never had too good of an experience with multiple big OS updates on phones running lower end hardware anyways, it almost always causes much undesired lag. Obviously, this is just me personally and I'm sure some people are planning to keep it for years, but I usually don't keep a phone longer than two years even if it's a flagship. Good review though
Thank you for taking the time to record a review. I shall play this video back a few times, as I need to become aclamated to my Motorola Moto 5G Stylus (2023).
I thinnk that the phone is going to be popular enough that Moto will have more updates than is stated.
Looks good, but I'd wait for a sale as you know it's coming .
Can it ne repair on case of human damage
Sorry bud. But most people don’t care about the always on display and that major upgrade beyond one. I mean it’s a $300 phone man. What do you want for it. That’s nothing. The phone is practically free, and otherwise great. I can’t stand that always on display, it’s annoying and drains your battery.
Motorola has always been all over the place with their updates. My old moto X4 received two major OS updates yet the Z3 the flagship at the time received only one OS update.
Really weird. Thought they were on the right track after last year.
The battery on the Motorola 5G stylus is great and it lasts longer than expected
Thank you for pointing out the one year of update. I was ready to buy but now I am thinking Samsung again.
Not seen my oppo update for yonks something I'm not bothered about tbh ... this phone looks nice though nice features to be had I'm seriously thinking of getting this as I hate the curved screen on mine drives me nuts !
I will say this, for people who don't care as much about new features, the one major update and 3 years of security updates aren't super important.
179.99 is impossible?
I just picked it up for $249 and when I need to upgrade, I will. At that price, it was hard to pass up. And the red with a clear case is gorgeous.
I dig this phone I got the Carmel latte I had the a54 galaxy not impressed and I like the wireless charging with the stylus but I am no techie works great I get a new phone about every year in a half too 2 years anyways
_Here's how I see it. I just bought this phone Aug. 8, 2024 and it came with Android 14. I suspect I'm entitled to an OS upgrade to Android 15 (codenamed _*_Vanilla Ice Cream_*_ ) when it becomes available. So, after Android 15, that's it for this specific phone, until Android 16._
I don't quite follow what you mean...
@@StevealiciousTech _I think I understand your query. The OS upgrade will be just an upgrade to Android 14. Not an upgrade from an old OS (14) to a new OS (15). If that's true then that's a real bummer._
Great straight up review. No sugar coating. Nice!
Thanks!
i can live with the one major android upgrade on this phone because i only paid 99$ for mine! mine is the straight talk one and walmart was offering litteraly 100$ off if you signed up for walmart plus and bought it which is exactly what i did!
What is the importance of updating?
To keep your phone running smoothly with your applications and other software.
As android versions change if your phone doesn't update to newer version it eventually will stop working and run like crap. This way you have to buy a new phone in another year maybe 2.i use my phones for about 5 years and usually change them when I get locked out by the software not updating
what country are you in where they have a red one
US.
Two weeks into December 2024, and the price has dropped to $249.99 from Motorola. I just can't pass it up, even with only 1 O/S update.
I got mine through my carrier for $269. Carmel Latte color. Don't care about updates. Love the performance.
The lack of software updates is a dead give away, that Moto sees this as basically a 1-2 yr phone. Not good!!! I have the Moto G Power 5G 2024, and it's not even living up to the "Power" label. My Moto G Power 2020 was , way better battery wise.
I’ve watched a few videos on this phone so far. And I’ve heard 3, 4 or 5 years of security updates. I have no idea who’s right or not 😂 but maybe the lack of support is due to this phone just being a stepping stone for an even better version of the moto g stylus coming soon? Within the next year or two? It’s a great phone, I wouldn’t be able to see why they aren’t headed towards turning this into a flagship phone. Especially considering how good this product is
Recyclable?
These phones are very capable of 5 years of android updates...it's sad that Motorola only updates 1 version. I will probaby go with a Samsung phone next...
Not being able to install apps on the sd card makes the sd useless. Only Samsung let's you do that.
Steve thinkphone or edge plus 2023 if price dont matter?
Eh, I don't know at this point. I like the ThinkPhone a lot but if you want a more traditional flagship the Edge Plus
I've been using Android 11 on my Moto G Stylus 2021 for years without issue.
I always install a security app though (on any phone).
To me its not a huge deal to not have updates for a new Android version.
Plus phones don't last forever, you tend to replace then after a few years.
I'm upgrading to a new phone this year but I could care less about Android updates.
I have to get it I accidentally smashed my other phone and this one is what I can afford barely . So one year it is then I'll probably upgrade to the moto g stylus and 2025
Right on, as usual, Steve! With the sorely lacking support, the entire package is soured. With adding the P-OLED @ 1200 nits, 8GB RAM, OIS on the main lens, & wireless charging, Moto has finally addressed all the deficiencies, and the market so desperately needs a budget stylus phone! It's simply baffling to me why Motorola just won't stand up and commit to supporting their phones for 5 yrs!!! It would only help their bottom-line. 🤦🏼♂️
You keep a phone for 5 years?
@@admiralkrankandhismightyba158 Yep, coming up on 3 years w/ my Surface Duo 2. Wife is still using the SG S20 FE. Replaced my kids SG S10e's recently. I use devices until support ends.
@@bricequirl that's cool. Wish I could say the same. My wife is like that. I'm just curious how many people like me drop their phone and use the heck out of them so that they don't last even two years.
its a cheap plastic phone with one year update only. it needs to be a $125.00 phone.
I hear some motorola phone carry 3 years of updates now. Never had a Motorola before though.
I appreciate youre insight always 😊
Thanks!
Gorilla glass "Corning" doesn't have a patent on double doped silica. I can make it in my garage pretty easily. It was invented in west Germany shortly after WW2.
Less than 2 iterations update should be illegal
for 237 dollars on black friday why are you complaining? its my second moto g stylus... I upgrade every 2yrs for about 200 dollars
I have the Motoi g power 5g 2023 that came with Android 13, and it was supposed to upgrade to 14 by now. What happened? This is August and still no 14 upgrade.
I just bought this phone for $43 that’s with tax I have a iPhone 11 I know about the 1 year update but I plan to use this phone for a year or 2 and buy another phone I will use this time to see what I’ll get next
Thanks for all the very candid input. If not for the poor software support and the a$$ ugly case colors I would have probably already bought one.
I ordered it know it will be my new back up phone in a year or 2, and to replace my current phone which will be my back up phone.
$400 is a cheap phone? I've never even paid $200 for a phone.
I just got it for the service with cricket for free dude just switch to cricket and you can get it free I got a nice speaker too for free
I had to get it because it's a good phone but I am absolutely heartbroken about the OS upgrades I won't stick with it for very long because of that
I hear some motorola carry 3 years of updates. , now. Not sure which motorola phones have that many updates. Updates are really important these days.
@@Slim1423 this one only gets one so I'm going to get the edge 50 neo if it will work in America next year
@AngelaBrownp5b1pgooseguilt Ok. I see. If i get a motorola phone, i need atleast 3 years of system updates. Thank you for the info.
Don't buy moto phones my moto g62 got dead in 15 months and even service centre couldn't help it .15k wasted 😢
Does it connect to 5G SA and VoNR for calls? I have the 2023 version and T-Mobile currently forces the phone to make calls over 4G LTE😢.
@@lon_dawg I'm pretty sure it uses 5g for calls I have one now but I'm not 100% how would I find out
Yes but the price is only $399.
With the trade-in of an old garbage phone brings it down to 220
Just got this phone for $250 on Amazon
Excellent!
There is an always on display. You go to wallpapers > live > always-on then set it to be whatever you want.
brother let just hope they at least give that because ...moto is always late or seems like the updates are never going to come for the moto devices when rest pop brands are efficient and almost on time on their promises
Definitely, that's why fewer updates are concerning.
I have the Motorola Moto G play in the absolutely love it. $100 bucks you can't go wrong.
All phones should receive at the least 5 years of updates.
Mine was $250, so I guess I gotta good deal😁
That update limitation is probably because they are putting their time in AI software and hardware for the newer models.
Great phone for the price But the Big Caveat is moto's "Lack" of OS updates... it has great specs and moto has "ONE" update??? I'll pass
Don't worry it nice enough to use it❤.
Had 2020 Motorola Edge, incredible phone but a lot updates.
Ignore this phone, boost has the edge + for 199 rn
I'm sure I've seen one relatively well know You Tuber call this the worst phone Motorola have even made. Unless it was last years..
Got it free on both carriers I use so no complaints here, loving it
hopefully it's better than my 2023 version