Not to mention that the Switch version has a working online ScareScraper mode. And at least in my opinion, the ScareScraper in LM2 is WAY better than in LM3
@@SMPandanic well, with 2 there’s a lot more features like upgrading the Poltergust with money and the red coin scramble. There’s also difficulty settings and an endless mode, making it easier to grind out the rare ghosts. Not to mention that 2’s ScareScraper is MUCH easier to play solo on than 3’s ScareScraper
Yeah basically everything is great in luigi's mansion 2 scarescrapers other then the fact that there's no additional boss fights at the end of a run, wish they could have added a bit more in that aspect, but hey its still a fun game.
Pricing of games is such an interesting topic to me. Whether a game is "worth it" is so tremendously subjective and there's so many different ways you can try to "quantify" the fairness a game's price tag. Graphics, gameplay, length, big studio vs indie, age, development time, brand/franchise, system, extra features, etc. And all these factors weigh in at completely different levels for different people.
And the way companies decide pricing is different from the way consumers do. Nintendo prices this game at $60 because they know people *will* buy it, it's the Mario brand, so there's no reason to make the price lower. And they priced Metroid Prime Remastered, which had 100 times more effort put into it, at $40, because the franchise is more niche and the price needs to be lower for the game to sell.
One thing that confuses me is why everyone only say “texture updates” And like yes it does look like that to be fair Howeber direct comparisons show alot of work did go into remodeling stuff They didnt simply just upscale textures With that said there still isnt much of a difference overall, perhaps better lighting woulda fixed the graphics more
Yeah it's definitely more than just texture updates, there's updated models, animations, probably some lighting, and maybe a few touches to the audio beyond the obvious lack of compression.
@@CafeCharlie Digital foundry did a video comparing the two indepth and they did do quite a bit with it in that regard. A lot of it might be hard to notice outside of close ups in regards to facial animations nad the like, but they did touch up the lighting too in a lot of places. Some areas are more naturally brighter and some are darker, like the garden of the first mansion being bright but the hallway with the knight armors being darker. They also added shadows to things that didn't have them before from what I've seen and improved them too. I think it's understandable and fine if people consider it overpriced for what is offered but I do wish people wouldn't undermine what exactly was done to it. It's not on the level of Prime Remastered but it's more than the usual remaster.
If you already have the 3DS version don’t buy this port. It’s the exact same game. Unless you are a big dark moon fan there is no reason to get the same game again. If you have never played the original game on the 3DS, then I would highly recommend this port but not for $60. I would just wait for a sale or something
Not only is Dark Moon my favorite Luigi’s Mansion game (due to ghost design, combat, story Emerson, mansion variety, etc.), but my 3DS doesn’t work anymore,. However, I’m NOT paying $60 for it. I’ll buy it when i5 goes on sale at GameStop. (I like having my games physical, except Pikmin 1+2, I was impatient)
@@flippeee5 i played lm2 moderately and i still had 80 hours on the 3ds according to the play activity app, and there's NO way i'm paying almost triple the price if you count the nintendo select for the SAME game with only upscaled textures.
My man! I have all Luigis Mansion Games and growed up with Dark Moon. ( I love Action but Luigis Mansion 2 is just the best game )Well i buyed it and i am enjoying the new graphics and bringing it on 100% like i did on the 3DS!
I feel like 2 has a way better sense of atmosphere than 3 honestly. Playing 3 gave me a new appreciation for 2, which I was previously underwhelmed by. I don't really think 3 is like the first game at all other than the single location + no missions, 3 felt to me like it leaned in the opposite direction in every other area and that 2 is somewhere between 1 and 3.
Yeah it's really tricky to rate the atmosphere. Because I think LM3 is a very beautiful game and has a lot of character, but it somehow doesn't translate as well into atmosphere.
I got it today and I love it. This game was my childhood and yeah it should have been $40 instead of $60 but i haven’t been able to play it for years after my 3ds broke so I jumped at the chance to play this masterpiece again.
Not a masterpiece. You obviously have no idea what's considered a masterpiece. This game is pure trash and now just a cash grab. A true masterpiece is Paper Mario TTYD. This one however is just trash and definitely not even worth 40 dollars.
As someone who loves and defends Dark Moon, I haven't really seen much reason to buy it outside of a graphical update I'd honestly love to see you make a video on the type of new content you'd add to the game, I think co-op would be nice just so every LM game can have a multiplayer alternative for the main story but other than that I think it'd be cool to see what you'd come up with lol
I actually wanted to do a video coming up with a concept for a Luigi's Mansion 3D action-puzzle-platformer that takes place in the Evershade Valley with little mansions you can explore. Maybe in October I'll do something like that!
@@AFCDaniel_ Thing is, I already own the original on the 3ds, I can just replay it there, and the new graphics don't really look that much better to me, even if it did it still doesn't intrigue me enough to buy the game again for an even higher price lol
@@hubadubatron1045 it’s hard to get the urge to replay a game on an older console nowadays. I don’t really go back and play any old games bar Mario galaxy 2. The graphical improvement is great and I’ve 100% the game already. It’s a lot of fun.
You've been ranting to your psychologist about Luigi's mansion 2 on the big screen? Weird. Personally I've been ranting to my psychologist about the one dream I have of finally being able to play Hi-Fi RUSH with no delay lag.
I have it on the 3DS. I loved the game. It doesn’t have the same feeling playing it again on the 3DS if you already have completed it before. With this version it’s a new release (2024), in HD. And the urge to play it again. And since I played it on the 3ds when I was a kid and 100%inch doesn’t occur to you as much when you’re a kid. Now I can 100% it.
I absolutely love this game and can get it for less than full price BUT own the original on 3DS and have loads of other new stuff I could play instead. Even still, I love this game so am quite torn on whether to pick it up.
Maybe wait til spooky season and see if it goes on sale by then, or still sounds like something you'd wanna pick up at full price. It's an awesome upgrade for sure that I think any big Dark Moon fan should get at some point, but at the same time the price tag makes it hard to recommend.
wanted to offer a little thought i had - on mobile, the red lower border made me think i'd already watched this video. could be worth a tweak? (great video though!)
I'm a Luigi fan and loved the first game. Bought this for the 3ds but I honestly even back then hated the level based so much even if the levels were fun. Having a giant one mansion was such an awesome feature back then. I have the money I could easily get this, but I think I'll pass for now. I got TTYD in a hurry but I'm not too crazy about Luigi's Mansion 2. I'll get it eventually.
I bought Luigi's Mansion 2 HD cause of this video. I hope you make more videos in the future and you remind me of peanut butter gamer. Hope things are well with you.
I would recommend getting 3 first since it's the same price and higher quality. The game looks far better and was made for the Switch rather than brought to it, so it's almost definitely going to be a better experience. But I'm not saying you should never get LM2HD, just that you should pick up LM3 first.
There is one huge difference between Luigi's Mansion, 2 HD and Luigi's Mansion. Dark Moon The fourth mansion boss can actually be done with the left stick or right stick. Don't remember which one
Everyone says that this is mission structured and not open but if you want to get 3 stars and the boos it is open. People say Luigi’s mansion 3 isnt mission structured, but it is, with different floors.
I already own the game for 3ds and I also own a pc so now I just emulate it on my pc with upscaled graphics and textures which looks truly amazing! No need to spend £60 on a game I already own! 😂
The answer is only if you really want to play this on the Switch and it's on sale. Though unfortunately, Nintendo games seem to hardly ever go on sale.
This is my favorite game I grew up playing it and still love it but 60 dollars is not worth it as someone who knows everything about the game like how there was a heart bleeding in the gears put in the beta version. i suggest seeing if it comes on sale and waiting for like christmas. my ds version broke sadly like a year ago but ill still wait.
I just wish it was $40 because then I would love to get it because I was never able to beat the first boss in the original, so I’m just going to wait for a sale.
I just don't think the $60 game is justifiable. It's a remake, and I feel most people buying this are people who already had the 3DS version. I think at most I would pay $40 for it but nintendo loves to price all their games at $60 which is what I would pay for a game like GTA
Honestly, the game shouldn’t be 60$. I love Dark Moon, it’s probably my favorite Luigi’s mansion! But the game should have been it’s OG price (which was 40$) instead of 60$. But like every Mario related game nowadays are like. 60$ so eh, go figure.
To be honest they should have did another remake for the original and imported it to the switch or something, then it would give this game some purpose to exist
I don’t care what anyone says.. nor what this UA-camr says if he unadvertised everyone to not play.. I’m playing because I never played it and want my experience for the first time and I’m not the only beginner of the remade sequel
It's at least not super compressed like it is on the 3DS. So I don't really think there's any new audio, just that the sound effects and music are higher quality.
It’s a great game, I’m more than happy to pay for it. I played it on the 3ds. I loved it. Now it’s a new release (2024) and it gives me the urge to play it. And now I’m older and 100%ing games means more than it did, I can now 100% this.
So far I like the game but they shouldn't have remade an old game when they could have spent that time and effort to make Luigi's mansion 4. And they DEFINITELY shouldn't be charging NEW GAME PRICES for an OLD game they polished up a bit. It's not even CLOSE to the same graphics as 3, and if they made it with modern resources they should have been able to make it look WAY better.
Man, you have no idea how nice a video like this is when I’ve seen so many people complaining about the price like they’re obligated to buy it. This is such a nice, nuanced, and overall fair look at the game and its faults, both in terms of price tag and just general gameplay quirks. Excellent video here, it’s a really nice take on the situation.
I think the $60 price tag is enough to keep most people away from this game. It's the only negative aspect and it's not something I need to breakdown. I just need to give as much info on the game as I can to help people evaluate for themselves whether or not that's enough to pay $60.
@@buster5661 Maybe if you click the little triangle in the bottom left corner it will start playing and you can listen to the words that I speak and use your comprehension skills to decipher the information.
Not to mention that the Switch version has a working online ScareScraper mode. And at least in my opinion, the ScareScraper in LM2 is WAY better than in LM3
100% agree
I always find myself playing scarescraper on dark moon and never on 3
@@ketchupskeleton9878 same, just something about 2's that I like more than 3's but I don't know what it is
@@SMPandanic well, with 2 there’s a lot more features like upgrading the Poltergust with money and the red coin scramble. There’s also difficulty settings and an endless mode, making it easier to grind out the rare ghosts. Not to mention that 2’s ScareScraper is MUCH easier to play solo on than 3’s ScareScraper
Yeah basically everything is great in luigi's mansion 2 scarescrapers
other then the fact that there's no additional boss fights at the end of a run, wish they could have added a bit more in that aspect, but hey its still a fun game.
Pricing of games is such an interesting topic to me. Whether a game is "worth it" is so tremendously subjective and there's so many different ways you can try to "quantify" the fairness a game's price tag. Graphics, gameplay, length, big studio vs indie, age, development time, brand/franchise, system, extra features, etc. And all these factors weigh in at completely different levels for different people.
And the way companies decide pricing is different from the way consumers do. Nintendo prices this game at $60 because they know people *will* buy it, it's the Mario brand, so there's no reason to make the price lower. And they priced Metroid Prime Remastered, which had 100 times more effort put into it, at $40, because the franchise is more niche and the price needs to be lower for the game to sell.
@@NeoKat75 But sadly that's just capitalism... technically something's worth whatever people are willing to pay.
Ima be honest I dont think you should ever get this for 60, like just wait for any sale or use game vouchers
One thing that confuses me is why everyone only say “texture updates”
And like yes it does look like that to be fair
Howeber direct comparisons show alot of work did go into remodeling stuff
They didnt simply just upscale textures
With that said there still isnt much of a difference overall, perhaps better lighting woulda fixed the graphics more
Yeah it's definitely more than just texture updates, there's updated models, animations, probably some lighting, and maybe a few touches to the audio beyond the obvious lack of compression.
@@CafeCharlie Digital foundry did a video comparing the two indepth and they did do quite a bit with it in that regard. A lot of it might be hard to notice outside of close ups in regards to facial animations nad the like, but they did touch up the lighting too in a lot of places.
Some areas are more naturally brighter and some are darker, like the garden of the first mansion being bright but the hallway with the knight armors being darker.
They also added shadows to things that didn't have them before from what I've seen and improved them too.
I think it's understandable and fine if people consider it overpriced for what is offered but I do wish people wouldn't undermine what exactly was done to it.
It's not on the level of Prime Remastered but it's more than the usual remaster.
If you already have the 3DS version don’t buy this port. It’s the exact same game. Unless you are a big dark moon fan there is no reason to get the same game again. If you have never played the original game on the 3DS, then I would highly recommend this port but not for $60. I would just wait for a sale or something
Not only is Dark Moon my favorite Luigi’s Mansion game (due to ghost design, combat, story Emerson, mansion variety, etc.), but my 3DS doesn’t work anymore,. However, I’m NOT paying $60 for it. I’ll buy it when i5 goes on sale at GameStop. (I like having my games physical, except Pikmin 1+2, I was impatient)
I mean i brought it because of it being on a big screen worth it to me
@@user-qv1bu3eq8e based
Nintendo is notorious for never lowers the price…
@@user-qv1bu3eq8estory emerson 😭
I have it on 3DS and now on the switch too. It’s my favorite game of all time, so.. not gonna pretend i’m ashamed.
i agree
casual gamer mid
Id rather play LM1 or LM2 any day over LM3
@@flippeee5 i played lm2 moderately and i still had 80 hours on the 3ds according to the play activity app, and there's NO way i'm paying almost triple the price if you count the nintendo select for the SAME game with only upscaled textures.
My man! I have all Luigis Mansion Games and growed up with Dark Moon.
( I love Action but Luigis Mansion 2 is just the best game )Well i buyed it and i am enjoying the new graphics and bringing it on 100% like i did on the 3DS!
I feel that the ghosts glow a bit to bright in the hd version as well as the lack of 3d doesn’t make it a thing I would ever want to buy
I feel like 2 has a way better sense of atmosphere than 3 honestly. Playing 3 gave me a new appreciation for 2, which I was previously underwhelmed by. I don't really think 3 is like the first game at all other than the single location + no missions, 3 felt to me like it leaned in the opposite direction in every other area and that 2 is somewhere between 1 and 3.
Yeah it's really tricky to rate the atmosphere. Because I think LM3 is a very beautiful game and has a lot of character, but it somehow doesn't translate as well into atmosphere.
Yeah i think luigis mansion 2 has the better atmosphere. There everything feels so well put together
I got it today and I love it. This game was my childhood and yeah it should have been $40 instead of $60 but i haven’t been able to play it for years after my 3ds broke so I jumped at the chance to play this masterpiece again.
Not a masterpiece. You obviously have no idea what's considered a masterpiece. This game is pure trash and now just a cash grab. A true masterpiece is Paper Mario TTYD. This one however is just trash and definitely not even worth 40 dollars.
I really love how high-quality, well-put and informative your videos are!! Just had to point it out
Thank you!
As someone who loves and defends Dark Moon, I haven't really seen much reason to buy it outside of a graphical update
I'd honestly love to see you make a video on the type of new content you'd add to the game, I think co-op would be nice just so every LM game can have a multiplayer alternative for the main story but other than that I think it'd be cool to see what you'd come up with lol
I actually wanted to do a video coming up with a concept for a Luigi's Mansion 3D action-puzzle-platformer that takes place in the Evershade Valley with little mansions you can explore. Maybe in October I'll do something like that!
The urge to play it again, because it’s new (2024 release) and in better graphics, and if you love LM2. Then why wouldn’t you buy it lol.
@@AFCDaniel_ Thing is, I already own the original on the 3ds, I can just replay it there, and the new graphics don't really look that much better to me, even if it did it still doesn't intrigue me enough to buy the game again for an even higher price lol
@@hubadubatron1045 it’s hard to get the urge to replay a game on an older console nowadays. I don’t really go back and play any old games bar Mario galaxy 2. The graphical improvement is great and I’ve 100% the game already. It’s a lot of fun.
You've been ranting to your psychologist about Luigi's mansion 2 on the big screen? Weird. Personally I've been ranting to my psychologist about the one dream I have of finally being able to play Hi-Fi RUSH with no delay lag.
I'd say if you still have it on 3ds, I'd just play it on there. If not, then I'd buy the switch port. Not for $60 though, wait for a sale or discount.
I have it on the 3DS. I loved the game. It doesn’t have the same feeling playing it again on the 3DS if you already have completed it before. With this version it’s a new release (2024), in HD. And the urge to play it again.
And since I played it on the 3ds when I was a kid and 100%inch doesn’t occur to you as much when you’re a kid. Now I can 100% it.
I just realized. There’s now 3 versions of this game. The Luigi’s Mansion Arcade game was heavily based on Dark Moon.
I absolutely love this game and can get it for less than full price BUT own the original on 3DS and have loads of other new stuff I could play instead. Even still, I love this game so am quite torn on whether to pick it up.
Maybe wait til spooky season and see if it goes on sale by then, or still sounds like something you'd wanna pick up at full price. It's an awesome upgrade for sure that I think any big Dark Moon fan should get at some point, but at the same time the price tag makes it hard to recommend.
wanted to offer a little thought i had - on mobile, the red lower border made me think i'd already watched this video. could be worth a tweak?
(great video though!)
Thanks for the feedback! I was worried it would look that way. I just made an adjustment to it, so it should look better now.
@CafeCharlie lol i was thinking of the exact same idea! great work and keep it up, love your videos :)
I'm a Luigi fan and loved the first game. Bought this for the 3ds but I honestly even back then hated the level based so much even if the levels were fun. Having a giant one mansion was such an awesome feature back then. I have the money I could easily get this, but I think I'll pass for now. I got TTYD in a hurry but I'm not too crazy about Luigi's Mansion 2. I'll get it eventually.
Best inro ever :D!!! I love all 3 games in the series and 100% them all but LM3 may be my favorite.
"by some old baby guy" - Charlie Cafe 2024
for someone who didn't play this game before, I recommend yes
I bought Luigi's Mansion 2 HD cause of this video. I hope you make more videos in the future and you remind me of peanut butter gamer. Hope things are well with you.
So,
Hypothetically (not hypothetically)
What if I have it on the 3ds?
its PEAK!!
Short answer. Yes
I’ve never played a Luigi’s mansion game should I get 2 HD or 3?
I would recommend getting 3 first since it's the same price and higher quality. The game looks far better and was made for the Switch rather than brought to it, so it's almost definitely going to be a better experience. But I'm not saying you should never get LM2HD, just that you should pick up LM3 first.
There is one huge difference between Luigi's Mansion, 2 HD and Luigi's Mansion. Dark Moon The fourth mansion boss can actually be done with the left stick or right stick. Don't remember which one
1:43 my fav luigis mansion was the second 😎
YES
Everyone says that this is mission structured and not open but if you want to get 3 stars and the boos it is open.
People say Luigi’s mansion 3 isnt mission structured, but it is, with different floors.
Suggestion: do a video about Lego Star wars on the gamecube
I could see myself possibly doing that at some point in the next 70 years.
@@CafeCharlie ... 😢
@@themariomaster5207 It could happen at some point sooner than 70 years though! I just don't have plans to cover any Lego games yet.
@@CafeCharlie ok
I already own the game for 3ds and I also own a pc so now I just emulate it on my pc with upscaled graphics and textures which looks truly amazing! No need to spend £60 on a game I already own! 😂
its ok, u can play it on PC in 4K or on massive tv forget switch
The answer is only if you really want to play this on the Switch and it's on sale. Though unfortunately, Nintendo games seem to hardly ever go on sale.
This is my favorite game I grew up playing it and still love it but 60 dollars is not worth it as someone who knows everything about the game like how there was a heart bleeding in the gears put in the beta version. i suggest seeing if it comes on sale and waiting for like christmas. my ds version broke sadly like a year ago but ill still wait.
I just wish it was $40 because then I would love to get it because I was never able to beat the first boss in the original, so I’m just going to wait for a sale.
I just don't think the $60 game is justifiable. It's a remake, and I feel most people buying this are people who already had the 3DS version. I think at most I would pay $40 for it but nintendo loves to price all their games at $60 which is what I would pay for a game like GTA
Considering I have it on 3DS, not right now
Honestly, the game shouldn’t be 60$. I love Dark Moon, it’s probably my favorite Luigi’s mansion! But the game should have been it’s OG price (which was 40$) instead of 60$. But like every Mario related game nowadays are like. 60$ so eh, go figure.
I just finally beat luigis mansion 2 hd it felt sssoooo nustolgic to play arugably the best luigis mansion game
To be honest they should have did another remake for the original and imported it to the switch or something, then it would give this game some purpose to exist
They should have kept the unique ghosts
I don’t care what anyone says.. nor what this UA-camr says if he unadvertised everyone to not play.. I’m playing because I never played it and want my experience for the first time and I’m not the only beginner of the remade sequel
Go for it! I think you'll love it.
wait, this game got an updated audio!?
It's at least not super compressed like it is on the 3DS. So I don't really think there's any new audio, just that the sound effects and music are higher quality.
@@CafeCharliewhat if this game gets DLC in the future?
If you played it on 3ds, don't. If you never played it, don't. It's not worth 60$. Wait until a sale.
It’s a great game, I’m more than happy to pay for it. I played it on the 3ds. I loved it. Now it’s a new release (2024) and it gives me the urge to play it. And now I’m older and 100%ing games means more than it did, I can now 100% this.
Never played the first or second so I had to buy
So far I like the game but they shouldn't have remade an old game when they could have spent that time and effort to make Luigi's mansion 4.
And they DEFINITELY shouldn't be charging NEW GAME PRICES for an OLD game they polished up a bit. It's not even CLOSE to the same graphics as 3, and if they made it with modern resources they should have been able to make it look WAY better.
This game could’ve been better if it reused the Luigi’s Mansion 3 style.
Yes, yes you should
Honestly, I'd say buy it if you've never owned the game. If you have, wait for a price drop or don't bother.
i already beat the hd version
Who already pre ordered it and beat half of it and watching this
I like the combat better than 3. Too much slaming in 3
The port was so lazy though, I wish they got rid of the interrupting level progression and reworked the gimmicky boss battles
Luigi's 2HD Mansion
not at $60 no
ITS DARK MOON NOT 2
Downloading the xci rom rn for my hacked switch soo yeah... Fuck game prices I pirate everything... Except for sonic games cuz they use denovu 😞
Short answer: it’s 60 dollars, no.
Man, you have no idea how nice a video like this is when I’ve seen so many people complaining about the price like they’re obligated to buy it.
This is such a nice, nuanced, and overall fair look at the game and its faults, both in terms of price tag and just general gameplay quirks. Excellent video here, it’s a really nice take on the situation.
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Yes. End of story.
Lm3>lm1> >lm2
You didn't list and objections or alternate perspectives
I think the $60 price tag is enough to keep most people away from this game. It's the only negative aspect and it's not something I need to breakdown. I just need to give as much info on the game as I can to help people evaluate for themselves whether or not that's enough to pay $60.
@@CafeCharlie well i didnt get any information from you video, so i dont understand what youre talking about
@@buster5661 Maybe if you click the little triangle in the bottom left corner it will start playing and you can listen to the words that I speak and use your comprehension skills to decipher the information.
@@CafeCharlie theres a way to turn off the comment section if you cant handle it
@@buster5661 This is gonna be my Doofenshmirtz backstory when someday I try to destroy all of the comment sections in the whole world.
NOOO
OF COURSE DUH BEST LM IN THE SERIES
Quick answer: No!
Why not yes?
@@jefferyjames722 It's 60 dollars for a game that came out 11 years ago with no gameplay changes.
@@jefferyjames722 The game itself is also just ok. The other 2 Luigi Mansion games are usually considered to be better.
Well i do love it but I respect your opinion
Short answer: no.
Long answer: no, it’s 60 dollars.
No