Quokkas Throw Their Babies At Predators To Defend Themselves? - SOLVED - Quokka Hub
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- Опубліковано 24 жов 2019
- Do quokka throw their babies at preditors? Really, tossing babies? We find out the answer and the real facts about this online rumor.
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Predator:
*breathes*
Quokkas: *YEETUS THE FEETUS*
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I'm imagining this fucking scene and i'm laughing my ass off oh my god man you made my day
두대한 You are a fucking comedian So funny
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Fetus deletus
I can't believe I watched this whole thing to find out the only problem is the word "throw"
Tom same this dude is a joke lol
Are you trying to tell me that when he said, “hit subscribe” he didn’t mean to actually “hit” it. Next you’ll tell me not to smash SMASH that like button.
Yeah, I mean, it's pretty fair to interpret "expel" as "throw" if you don't have first hand knowledge.
I KNOW!
Hahaha same... I came to this video with high hopes that Daxon would debunk that sentiment of the quokkas thhhhrowin...no I mean shoooot..., umm expel?....their joey to the predators. Now I'm gonna leave this video even worse knowing that there's a study proven on this. Thanks Daxon, at least you help clear up my imagination of them throwing their joeys like they are some potatoes to the predators. :(
right. "throwing" is the real point; not the act of sacrificing their juveniles to protect themselves. so glad you set the record straight. we feel so dumb.
Kangaroos toss their joeys into the bushes to lighten the load if they're seriously being pursued, and if the joey is big enough to be cumbersome. They may or may not go back for them. That is what I was told back in the 60's, and the source was from people who lived in the environment. As such people are not official 'scientists' it cannot be officially documented as fact. So the jury's out on that one. It does however sound feasible
Exactly lol.
😂😂😂5months ago and your response is the best!!!!
So I guess you didn't get the part where he said that the quokkas rarely do the expelling even when threatened ("she MAY expel")?
Just say that you did not get that that kind of behaviour is not a regular occurrence and be over with it.
@@catstac2542 so i guess commenting on two year old comments you disagree with is all you have to do? shut up dummy.
Literally learning that this animal exists today.
Same
Ditto.
From patrick cloud
Same lol
The same.
Hey, you know what animal does throw their babies?
The Human.
Hol up
Actually no but...yes
I thought I was the only one haha
@@greatestever2146 sam
Ha ha ha. This gave me a good chuckle.
I like how the Mother Quokka looks like she’s smiling at you while she’s eating.
Maybe the baby just accidently falls out occasionally? I'm still skeptical of the idea that the mother intentionally ditches the joey.
I see it like this. If the mama is truly in danger, she can’t escape as fast with her baby in her pouch. I personally believe that mama releases her Joey not as a decoy or like a “eat my baby not me”, it’s more to give them BOTH a chance at survival. Mama is going to run twice as slow at least with her Joey, and if she gets caught by predators, her Joey automatically does too. If Joey is out and mama can run fast, here’s hoping that she can make it back to her lil baby💕🙏🏻
@@eveningstar8581 I REALLY LOVE YOUR WAY OF THINKING AND THAT IS ACTUALLY REALLY SMART. ❤️
@@user-gh5pd3vh4c awe thank you so much! It’s so nice to “meet” like minded people who choose love and positivity! If more people see things like that, imagine how the world could be! 💕🥰
Can deny I throw my kids at any chance I get, they get so annoying
@@eveningstar8581 I agree it's a matter of perspective. Giant Pandas get a bad rep because they will only feed one baby if they have twins. The truth is that they only have enough milk to feed one baby (bamboo isn't very nutritious), so if the mother tries to feed both twins then both of them will die. It's not like she rejects one baby out of spite and leaves it to suffer. They usually just feed the healthiest one, so at least one of their babies gets to live. If Giant Pandas actually ate a nutritious diet then they wouldn't have to make these sad/difficult decisions.
"Expel works." That's what was in the study. I like "eject" too.
You’re here because of that meme don’t lie
😭 yes
Yes
Yes. Hehe
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If it expels it, then the logical next question is whether they do so intentionally or not. If the intention is there it’s no better than throwing
It's probably an intentional reflex, because the pouch is a muscle which means they can loosen it for the baby to follow out.
Exactly brothers yapping techinicality
@@daxonquiet yapper you know nothing now be quiet and stay quiet cjfj
When a spaceship’s hull ruptures, people don’t get sucked out. They get gently expelled.
www.softschools.com/facts/animals/quokka_facts/2885/ Read this post.... They're very cute, but you need more facts. Don't sit there and act like they DON'T leave their babies for predators while they're saving their own ass. Even if they don't throw them outright, they don't NOT leave them defenseless for predators. Don't spread falsehoods without sharing the whole truth
It's also possible that their muscles relax because they're scared, kind of compared to when animals and some people poop and pee themselves when they become terrified at something. IDK... just a different perspective to look at it with...
Nobody:
Daxon: lies✌️kinda
Had to be said 😂
But even so, how do we know that the mothers "expel' the babies on purpose, or that they even do it as a decoy? Maybe it happens out of fear or the mother does it and then uses herself as the decoy. Doesn't look like there is any other studies or witness to this.
More pointless assumptions. People like to think animals are the cruel species...we are.
Mother uses self to decoy, leaving infant in a secluded spot
Mother dies
Infant dies due to rapidly onsetting hypothermia/hunger/predation from something that's sniffed it out
*or*
Mother drops infant in order to move faster and/or Mother uses infant to decoy
Mother escapes
Mother lives to mate, breed and continue the species another day.
Studies may be sparse, but at least there's logic to fill in the blanks. Mother nature is a bitch so life does anything it can do to continue.
I'm surprised that nobody has ever done a further study on this. Or is there any? Maybe Daxon should do a study on this since he's been around with the quokkas a lot. But the only thing he discovered (like an English language teacher) was how we shouldn't use the word "throw" instead lol. Not very promising.
I'm pretty sure it would only happen if the joey is big enough to weigh them down in the event of a predator. That way they could both jump away quicker than if the predator was to catch them, then both of them are gone
@@heavystarch100
Male polar bears eat their own babies. There is footage of it. Animals and humans are both cruel.
can't believe people actually make stuff like this up
Wait till you learn about the origins of the lemming train myth
What was made up? The study proved exactly what they said it did
Two of these people are idiots and didnt actually watch the video.
People tell lies about animal; just imagine what they do to other people.
Is there a Dr. Shrimp Puerto rico?
I came at this to look at some cute Quokkas, got what I wanted and learnt something new
More Quokkas coming your way soon 🙌🤗
I here because of Patrick Cloud. #patgeo
Same
Me too bruh
I feel like this guy is a quokka lawyer😄. “But your Honor, they clearly have tiny, little arms. The Quok just wanted to threaten the predator, and the baby fell out of her arm”. We are on to you Quokkas!😄
Kind of knew this was fake but it makes for a good laugh looking at the quite baby smileing and knowing it keeps that smile as mother throws it!
Lol I’m here because I saw this exact same meme 😂😂
How do we know the baby isn't just like "Mom! Let's split up! Meet back at the eucalyptus tree!"
More likely: “Quokka mothers expel their babies OUT OF FEAR(?!?) when they feel threatened by a predator.”
This all seemed a bit melodramatic but for the fact that he genuinely seems like a big quokka fan.
Thanks brother. I was really very tensed thinking they really throw the babies to predators. I even had searched it in google and found that they throw. But now I am relaxed. Thanks again.
Wait, so they DO use them as decoys. I didn't really care if they throw them or not, i was curious about whether or not they use them to their own survival.
'Abandon their babies to help them to escape predators in rare instances where noises made by the joey endanger them, and extra weight would make it likely both would die'
How do observers know the expulsion is deliberate? Couldn’t it be a bit like crapping one’s pants in an emergency?
Quokka mom: "Kick the baby!"
Quokka joey: "Don't kick the baby"
Quokka mom: "Kick the baby :)"
QUAKKA DAD: NO DONT KICK THE BABY EJECT THEM
I think people forget the possibility that if you were about to be eaten by a predator you might expel you're baby so they have a chance to get away. Kinda like if I'm going down you don't have to go down with me
Thank you for helping me raise awareness for quokkas I appreciate it
Has anyone ever thought that maybe since the Quakka is hopping away so fast that the baby might have fallen out of the pouch?
When humans learn discernment 🙏❤️
Kudos for giving the answer right away, I loved it!
I don't think this animal fact is any less "disturbing" without the word "throw". The intent remains the same whether they actively "throw" the babies or just "expell" them from their pouches. They actively sacrifice their offspring to a predator in order to stay alive. Using the word "throw" just paints a more vivid picture I suppose. I guess the closest equivalent would be to lay your baby onto the ground when being chased by a bear, hoping that the bear will stop to eat. Sure, you're not "throwing" your baby, but that doesn't make it any better now, does it?
If not for nothing... I respect your dedication for finding the truth to something I didn't know I needed to know. Thanks!
Since it has NEVER been observed, I think we can safely assume that no marsupial mommy expels her joey from the pouch when a predator comes close. So it's not a scientific fact at all.
Predator : comes
Mom : **im throwing a decoy**
How can something be this cute?
Oh yes, to offset the terror of the ocean. I almost forgot.
Quokkas after saw the predator: *YEET THE CHILD*
They gently push their offspring into harms way, buying them valuable time to flee...
Eject/expel? They fall out of the pouch while mama is running. That’s all. This has been recorded on video.
So, this animal is really abandoning its own baby for distraction. But it just didn't throw out to predators. Just lose them intentionally?
I did hear of it in a book with a kangaroo dumping a joey as it was too heavy to escape fast enough when carrying it. Though full disclosure it was a short 'based on true story' where someone raised the rescued joey. Can't even remember the name of the story let alone verify the truth.
Hanjisung what r u doing here..😂
Loving this stuff!!
So the baby is still getting thrown out of its house...🤣
I'm a researcher. if the study is old and is not backed up by more recent studies that found it to be true, then it is not well supported. It could have been just rare past occurrences, a reaction to events of that time, never really happened in response to a predator but was viewed by the researchers that way, etc. So this "fact" that kangaroos etc expel their babies for predators, unless there are newer studies, is not well supported and definitely shouldn't be mentioned as a characteristic or behavior of these animals, as its just not well documented or supported at all.
read the study.
When trapped animals became aware of the researcher approaching they generally attempted to escape, during which larger young were often expelled or released from the pouch of females. The pouch young would flounder on the ground and ‘hiss’ loudly. Whether the young were actually physically expelled by the mother or became dislodged during these violent, evasive movements is unknown but considering the muscular control that female quokkas have over the pouch opening (high- lighted when the muscle becomes relaxed during sedation) it seems likely that this is a behavioural response rather than accidental. Pouch young expelled in traps were taped back into the pouch and the 100% survivorship of radio- monitored individuals suggests that trapping was unlikely to have inhibited the population recovery.
If the pouch release is found to be a physical action by the mother then it can be viewed as a useful predator-avoidance strategy. When a female quokka becomes aware of a life- threatening interaction with a predator she may expel her off- spring whose subsequent noise attracts the attention of the approaching predator. It seems likely that the predator would take the young in such circumstances. Comparable behaviour has been observed in other marsupials: grey kangaroos expel their pouch young when chased by foxes (Banks 1997), as do swamp wallabies (Wallabia bicolor) when chased by dingoes (Robertshaw and Harden 1986).
Hayward, Matt W.; de Tores, Paul J.; Augee, Michael L.; Banks, Peter B. (2005). "Mortality and survivorship of the quokka (Setonix brachyurus)(Macropodidae: Marsupialia) in the northern jarrah forest of Western Australia" (PDF). Wildlife Research. 32 (8): 715-722. doi:10.1071/WR04111. Archived (PDF) from the original on 7 March 2019.
It would be easy to replicate but for what purpose would it serve?
Hey google what’s a synonym for “expel”
RIGHT!!!! The same THING
@@labonitagatita3241 Throw: propel (something) with force through the air by a movement of the arm and hand
That's how great humanity has become. We're making up lies and rumours about things, without a single thought as to what damage can be done as a result. The whole "living life without consequences", is the most unrealistic mentality you can have. And now it's popular.
Spelling of "Quokka" : Q-U-O-K-K-A
Me searching for "Quokka": Koaka
I literally am watching this because of that meme!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
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That phone case is so adorable!
They really cute 💖💖you're so lucky that you can see them every time😩😩
I agree with you, you have watched quokka very closely for years, from experience, you are worried with the word THROW...🐹
This video is such a self-inflicted embarrassment, kinda impressive that somebody could live with this
It doesn't say they intentionally expel the baby as a decoy. I still think this video goes too far. The baby is expelled from the pouch in the act of escaping and draws the attention of the predator. The person who wrote the study couldn't make that clearer even though they spent over 700 pages?
Shoot vs. expel equals baby getting devoured by predator. Same outcome.
So they do expel, push, throw, shoot their babies. This was the biggest issue for me, not how they do it.
My better half would get mad if I did that.
they dont literally throw their babies. They use their muscles in the pouch to loosen it and the baby falls out.
I saw a random Facebook comment saying this myth and this was the first google video that popped up when I went to look it up lmao so thank you this was an entertaining answer
So they don't "throw" them but kick them out the pouch and take off running leaving the baby behind? lol
Thanks for exposing the truth on sad animal facts. Memes aren't always reliable on truth or facts.
Yes throw definitely threw me off. i was thinking this was the real life equivalent of dragapult using babies as weapons of mass destruction.
You're right dragapult uses it as ammo
The baby chillin in Moms pouch is so dam cute!! People want to think animals would do something heartless and self serving...that behavior describes humans!!
True.. humans just project themselves on every creature
Our oldest son's name is Jaxon. Our 4 year pronounces his name as "Daxon" and we all get a laugh out of it... I didn't know that Daxon was actually a name. I love it.
You’re amazing! I was sure this was blown out of proportion as well. I chose your video before I even entertained the idea. Thank you for being amazing.
Best way of wording it. Quakka releases their babies to loose weight for faster escape from predators.
I’m so glad this was blown out of proportion, my heart just couldn’t take it anymore. Why would something so cute do something so devious?!?!
I mean, there are only 2 routes as a marsupial. One is they run with the baby. The alternative is they don't run with the baby, whether accidental or intentional. But we don't know if that's intentional.
Yup, just got clickbaited. Welp, that's roughly 6 minutes of my life that I'm never getting back again.
Wow he's so cool that he can type without touching his screen
Ok, but...they're still leaving their babies behind as decoys for predators in order to escape. The "method of offspring deposit" is really not the issue, here. 😂
So is the concept really that much different? Lol. Ok they arent THROWING them but the idea is the same they may leave their babies to survive right?
the wording throw them at the predators means they will use their babies as a defense throwing them under the bus, expelling them from their pouch can be made in locations where they are safe, like in tall grass where the babies just need to stay quiet. If havning them in their pouch while the mother gets caught, well in that insident i would hardly imagine the baby in the pouch surviving.
Furyhunter85 No they will specifically do it when faced with predators
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They are still abandon their baby for their own safety that's messed up.
The cited text seems to have, as its main source on this subject of sacrificial expulsion, the evidence that dingoes have eaten immature kangaroos. Have kangaroos actually been seen to do this intentionally? Have quokka been witnessed doing this? How do we really know this is a thing?
Presumably the earlier scientific papers that are cited are more specific.
They are not defending themselves. They are escaping. How about: quokka mothers are known to sacrifice their babies to escape predators.
I just saw the meme again so I had to check it out, lol.
I saw the meme plenty of times and never thought quokkas actually threw them. i have no problem with the jargon used, you don't literally get "thrown to the wolves," but we hear the phrase regularly...
So cute, love and smiles. They don’t need to defend themselves because there are no natural predators on the island where they live.
There are humans, snakes and birds of prey I thought?
Ive seen another meme where they claim that they SHOW the baby to the predator to gain sympathi ;)
*So the message of this video is:* "OMG, they're not throwing their babies, why ppl keep repeating that BS. Look at their hands, they're not even capable of doing it. They're just ejecting them, but that was back in the '80s".
So they definitely throw their babies at predators
They MIGHT expell the babies, MIGHT!
4:48
Predator: good thing that the quokka throwing babies thing is not true
Predator: *approaches quokka*
Quokka: *loads glock with babies*
I cant believe they're expelled.
are they gonna get a refund on their tuition?
Ppl are too caught up on their present to be concerned with fixing the burning/ blazing trail of misleading, misunderstanding and distruction they left behind. Thank you for clarifying and root causing for the curious minds. 💪👍💝🐻
Shoot, expel, released....same results as a throw 🤣
Throw implies the quokka purposely launching her baby towards the predator as a sort of sacrifice, but to expel can be an involuntary response. I've heard the same said for koalas.
It might be big enough to run faster than the mother could carrying the little one...
7 minutes, only to replace throw with "push or expel" 😂😂😂😂
**Pistol drops from his back pocket**
Quokka: *YEET*
They just "poop them out" 😂
love ur videos
I tried accessing the study the pdf references but my uni doesn't have access :(
Ohh no qUokkamoli...these guys are too cute to do that..
Ok video over all I needed
I think bro-man was expelled onto his head from his mothers pouch!
She has no arm strength, no power😂
Awww how cute they are 😍😍😍 so tiny