I thought Ultron was really underwhelming, I was hoping for him to be really menacing but he spends more time cracking jokes than cracking skulls, literally every line has a joke in it so to me I never felt there was ever much threat to the Avengers, then the introduce the most powerful character in the movie and from that point it became too predictable, credit to James Spader though, he did the best he could with the material, but his character's writing let him down. Enjoyed the movie overall, although it kind of felt like filler for Infinity War 1 & 2
Ultron to me was amazing. He was designed to be an evil and dark version of tony stark, which they executed perfectly in that sense. Doesn't it make him seem more insane when he is plotting to murder billions and cracks up jokes about it or to plot to murder billions just plain and simple. This version of intron will murder lots of people and not care about it to the point that he jokes about it.
I agree with everything you said. I was expecting Ultron to be much more menacing a joke or two here and there would have been fine but they made him too comical.
Seenya b4 If that was what they intended then ok but I still didn't think it worked, it didn't help that all the trailers had him really serious as well.
Ignorant? How is it ignorant? Cuz I saw the movie and made an opinion.... cmon dude ignorance is making a statement without really knowing what you're talking about...
The black widow and bruce banner relationship came out of nowhere at no point in the previous movies did they give any hint to them be anything more than friends(if even that)
People saying that Ultron was not menacing or even that this movie was not as good as the first one - these people confuse me. This movie was so good, and such an improvement over the first one in every way.
Yea. The first was not that great to me. Bust quick silver and ULTRON and vision made this movie great. I have it a 7.5 cause of a few flaws with scarlet witch and the some the odd "love" scenes.
황원 It confuses me because I don't know what different they could have done. For me this movie raised the bar in every way, but that's just my opinion. So I'm gonna have a flame war or get heated about it, but I respectfully disagree with you. The first one was all about the thrill of seeing them together. This one has way more to it. But I also think the 2nd Matrix is the best one of those three so what do I know....
the only problem i found with the movie was that ultron's creation seemed a bit rushed. there are scenes in the trailer that are not in the movie. i heard there will be a director's cut in blu-ray, so i want to watch what they cut
Did anyone else think the CGI in the first few minutes of the movie looked REALLY bad? I absolutely loved the movie but what the hell happened with that?
Yeah! I especially remember with some of the earlier fight scenes Thor and Cap didn't sometimes didn't have any lead in so it looked more like a twitch than a hit. I remember in the first scene there had like a large pipe and he twitched and a guy went flying.
I actually felt Ultron was too casual. I would have rather him been darker/more stoic - like the trailer made him out to be. But yea, he was decent overall
John Cummings I thought ultron was great. They portrayed him as having a child-like mind which makes sense considering he is litterally a few days old. He's not a threat in that dark, menacing way (They're saving that for Thanos) but in that his methods are like that of a child. The world is an awful place so I'll just make all these bad humans go away...problem solved. You see him throw tantrums when things don't go his way, and when he is clearly losing he becomes afraid and unsure what to do...like a child.
Marvel really knows how to balance character development and great humour and that´s why their movies work so well. For some reason, DC Studios seems to think, that you can´t have funny and serious scenes in the same movie. They should watch Django Unchained, that movie is dark as hell and also extremely funny. And for the record, I´m saying that because I want DC to be awesome, like I want for all movies.
Florian Narratio I don't think it's DC,I believe it's Warner bros, after all they created that "No joke Rumor." For once in Batman V Superman I'd like to see Supes and Bats enjoying a coffee together.
Florian Narratio Django Unchained is a good example. even better, Kick Ass, to me, it has almost everything, humor, dark, character development, gore, sad, even romance.
Florian Narratio Why cant you people just accept the fact that they are different companies..I like my superheroes to be fucking serious and not crack jokes in the middle of a crisis..And i dont want to see them drink coffee together.Damn!
Joe, we were never concerned about the destruction in Man of Steel, what we were concerned about was the DEATH. All throughout the battle of Metropolis, there were people dying left and right from either the dubstep drill or from Kal and Zod's fight. What was wrong with it was that not once did I ever get the impression while Kal was fighting Zod he was protecting the people and the city (other than the shoehorned neck-snap) in just about every building-shattering punch there was no conceivable way all the inhabitants of them could've survived. In Age of Ultron however, while we did get the impression that there were some civilian casualties, we constantly saw the Avengers go out of their way to protect the citizens. Hell, Cap himself said that he wouldn't leave one citizen behind on that chunk of city under his watch, when Tony was in the Hulkbuster suit he made sure that the building he rammed Hulk into was completely unoccupied. Quicksilver even sacrificed himself so that Hawkeye and that kid would survive. Yes, not every citizen survived, and I'm pretty sure we even saw a few die onscreen, but you know what, at least they fucking tried to save every citizen, not just caring about the world at large but also the people that could've died right there. In Man of Steel, while Kal did prevent the world from being destroyed, he didn't seem to care about the thousands that dropped like flies around him while he rammed Zod into several buildings. He should've at least tried to save as many as he could, maybe Then it would've been more impactful and understanding when he had to kill Zod. That's why the Avengers feel like genuine heroes, they actually care about the citizens around them and not just saving the vast majority at the expense of the minority.
The romance made sense. They started setting up a very close relationship between the two in the first Avengers movie... Also, the whole "damsel in distress" complaint is BS. It wouldn't make sense for Banner or Hawkeye to get caught. One for obvious reasons and the other because he was piloting the quinjet. Even still, the fact that Ultron doesn't kill her outright--and thoroughly demonstrates that he can--humanizes the villain. He says that she is all he has left. Even STILL she's barely captured for ten minutes.
Jacob McQuaid I completely agree. People get obsessed about this damsel in distress BS and its stupid. Look at the MCU, heroes "male heroes" get captured all the damn time. So why is it not offensive when they get captured but it is when Black Widow is? She even helps rescue herself and it gives them a way to find Ultron's base of operations. People need to figure out that if we want equality in the world then we need to have equality. Complaining about Black Widow being captured insults the effort she put in that lead to her capture in the first place.
JTHmonk3y Because then he's completely on his own. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver had run out on him (literally). He's an artificial intelligence and in a lot of ways the dark mirror of Tony Stark. Who built Ultron with the mindset of being afraid of everyone dying and being alone. But even simplifying it down, Ultron needed someone to be there to witness his victory. He basically needed someone other than himself to talk to.
JTHmonk3y *Spoilers* He wants companionship. He says, as she wakes up, "You're all that I have left". He then demonstrates his power by destroying his own body. He could *easily* have torn her apart but does not, based solely on sentiment.
Meh. Didn't do much for me. The jokes felt pretty hit-and-miss. For a newly-formed AI, Ultron sounded FAR too human: laconic, world-weary etc.Can't help but feel that he should've been more...robotic. A lot of the time it felt as though the rest of the movie only existed to move between fight scenes. After four movies, Tony STILL hasn't learned to just be fucking honest, and that concealing everything all the time just causes problems? Banner agrees to keep their work on Ultron secret, just like that?! The Maximoffs want to kill Tony, despite him clearly regretting his former life? And they had no problems working with Ultron (initially)? They didn't think to establish his intentions first? Ultron's best plan for world extinction is...to raise a village up into the atmosphere and then drop it? Seems a bit too convenient: like they thought "what would make a cool final battle setting?" and worked backwards from there. I just wasn't really bothered with anyone, so i guess the fight scenes didn't do much for me. The novelty had worn off after the first Avengers, maybe? So yeah: it didn't do much for me :P
***** That one of Tony's defining traits in all version of him. He keeps everything to himself because he feels he only should bear the burden. The Civil War Storyline in the comics could have ended halfway through if he just fessed up to Cap and admit he did want to work a compromise with the Anti-Registration faction. The Subsequent Secret Invasion and Dark Reign are also results of Stark's stubbornness. Comic Banner was much worse. You'd be amazed how many times Marvel Universe "geniuses" get into that situation.
***** "rest of the movie only existed to move between fight scenes" Sounds like an attention span issue. "After four movies, Tony STILL hasn't learned to just be fucking honest" In the first movie Tony admitted he was Iron Man, in the third movie he told a terrorist exactly where his house is... Seems like he just can't keep his mouth shut when he probably should... Also, it's kind of a staple of Marvel, and DC. "Banner agrees to keep their work on Ultron secret, just like that"... He agrees with Tony. "The Maximoffs want to kill Tony, despite him clearly regretting his former life" They didn't know that, they spent two days! That is at least 48 hours staring at death with Stark's name on it.... after their home, family, and life got destroyed by Stark weapons. That would fuck with anyone. Also, it is established that they are "young punks"... as in teenagers or very young adults. They are very impressionable and damaged. "Ultron's best plan for world extinction is...to raise a village up into the atmosphere and then drop it" Ultron is established that he is symbolically obsessed. Singing the Pinocchio song, marveled at the church in the center of the city, and dinosaurs went extinct from an asteroid... For a super villain like that, it is pretty much mathematical at that point. Nukes would be to cliche' and the fallout would permanently ruin the world.
Mattomaton Took the words right out of my mouth. Also, the thing about Ultron not being robotic enough just completely ignores the part where IT IS POINTED OUT that he gets a lot of his personality from Tony Stark and if he was more robotic, he would be lame as fuck.
***** what? In the video they accidentally say James Hater instead of James Spader, so I was just pointing that out. It's not a big deal and they already corrected it with an annotation.
I read that someone made a comment. While I enjoyed Stan Lee's appearance in this movie alot. It would have been really funny if at the end Stan Lee goes back to get something he had left at the party and notices it's underneath Thor's hammer, and he just picks it up without thinking, grabs what he was after and set's it back down with them staring at him with their mouths wide open. Only for him to not realize what he had done, saying "What? I just wanted my magazine that I left at the party". Or better yet, a comic of the "Avengers" that he left behind...
"Vision even sounds a little bit like Jarvis!" Uhh, Joe, you must've not heard Tony and Bruce say that they had uploaded Jarvis's subconscious into The Vision...
The movie wasnt mindless action, Ultron is the second best villain in the MCU, and I really cared for the Hulk and Black Widows relationship. I was surprised they pulled off a great squeal to all the Phase 2 movies. Ironman wants to protect the Earth from another alien invasion, Thor wants to clean the mess his brother Loki made on Earth, and Captain America wants to rid of Hydra and rebuild S.H.I.E.L.D. It starts and finishes with excitement that will lead into Civil War. :D
DankyDre420 I admit i cant decode on villains yet tough Stane is one of my faves. and i heard Kingpin was done pretty well in the series. I admit i dont followe Daredevil, since im not much into too dark enviroments but..how is the series?
I felt the movie was pretty damn fun for me, even if you could argue it's not great. From what I've heard, Joss Wheadon wanted a bit more control over the project, but Marvel/Disney kind of had him on the "checklist" for this movie and the Thor scenes with him in the pool were actually kept in by Marvel, even as distracting as they could be.
***** Disney isn't gonna give a director full control over editing a movie this big just like how they aren't gonna give JJ Abrams full creative control over editing Star Wars. Joss Wheadon's not a dumbass, there's no way in hell he was expecting the amount of control in the editing process as your trying to suggest.
Dr Doom Certified Blogger Not in the editing process, man. I mean the overall "flow" of the film, like adding the Thor in the pool scenes. For the events going on, I'll agree to other in say they seemed very out of place when you could have easily put that kind of foreshadowing in Guardians 2 or Ragnarok.
***** Whatever Joss Wheadon wanted in the movie he got., what Marvel decided to keep in the editing room is another story. Last time i checked Disney was the one shelling out millions on the production budget so they have the right to edit THEIR movie however they want.
*WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD* Honestly, the first avengers far surpasses the second part... I thought Ultra would be badass, but to me, he felt like a lesser version of Loki but with a different objective. Most of the time I couldn't really take him seriously since he was making jokes left and right. Another thing I want to note is, where the hell did the love relationship between Bruce Banner and Black Widow come from? They never had a love interest between each other in the first movie (or it was probably because I haven't seen the first part in a long time) and besides it felt too rushed between those two. Last but not least, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, these two did great in acting, I hated them in the beginning but I started to actually like them during the course of the movie, but just because of issues between Paramount Studios and 20th Century Fox, they just had to kill off Quicksilver?? *sigh* Whatever, it was a great movie regardless, I loved the jokes, especially if your worthy if Thor's hammer or not
dude..Ultron was one of the worst villains of all time,not intimidating at all, kept getting his ass beat and full of 1 liners, hes like a robot loki, if anything the ones that tear avengers apart are the twins
Superm4n Batm4n Ultron was a good villain imo (mainly becuase of the incredible voice of James Spader), but he could has been so much more. In the trailers it look like he would DESTROY the team, but in the actual film he is not like that at all. Iron Man almost beat him, alone! WTF! If Marvel is going to create a team of heroes, make the villain super powerful, not him and a generic army of robots, for fuck's sake. However, I really did liked the movie overall, way better than the first one.
Also, I loved Ultron in the movie. I'm reading these comments and seeing people wish he was more serious. But I really like how much of a jokester he was. Kinda like an evil Tony Stark.
Javier Ramos Agreed. I was going into the movie expecting him to be dark and serious. But wound up absolutely loving how comedic he was. Think my favorite part was the "Oh for God's sake" when Hulk threw him out of the jet.
***** From what i read, Wheddon and aparently Kevin Feige did not want James Spader to just do a robotic voice. and for all his humor sense, Ultron was still nasty in his plan of going to cause human extermination. altrough i admit one of the tantrums i liked, was when Pietro and Wanda changed minds and quitted his plan, and Ultron's reaction was not one of anger or "you will pay for doublecrossing me"...but more like a person who made an ankward comment and everyone leaving the conversation.
***** For me it was because, in all the trailers, he was portrayed as a serious and dark villain, and then all of a sudden all he does is get his arse kicked and make funny one liners.
Forced love story, the asteroid made of a city makes no sense (when did he make thrusters built in the city) and the pacing was kind of off (awesome fight, small party, fight, second fight, Hawkeye's house etc)
@@jorb333 Why are you saying right? Like if you didnt see it the movie And on top of that you act like everyone dislikes it How Tf you say a movie is not good but enjoyable 😔
@@nintendostudios3753 I didn't say it's not enjoyable I said there are problems with it. Read it again, and what makes you think I didn't see the movie
I feel like Ultron isn't as sinister as we was portrayed in the first trailer, he just gave off this bad ass "I'm going to make the Avengers beg for mercy" vibe.
I'm surprised you people aren't tired as fuck of superhero movies, especially Marvel's.. They all use the same formula with the same cheap one-liners and kid friendly tone. I was severly disappointed in Ultron in this one. In the same vein as the Mandarin, the films messed up the great things about the iconic villains. Such a wasted potential and the messy plotting and characters should make Whedon consider going back to script-writing classes. Come on, people, the CGI isn't even that exciting anymore. I'll look forward to Mad Max instead.
HrTjernobyl Actually, that's the thing: they don't all use the same formula. Winter Soldier is way different from the first Cap, and Guardians was very different as well. I'll admit that the two first Iron Man movies, and Thor movies, and the two Avengers, are similar to each other within the same sub-franchise. But then, DC's formula seems to be gritty and dark and sulky. Works, too. Just two different takes on the genre. Like them both.
HrTjernobyl I don't agree with the things you say, but I respect your opinion. I did find it funny that everyone complained about all the superhero films ending with some hole in the sky opening up, so Avengers: AoU decided to intentionally do the exact opposite. So instead, in Ultron, we have the ground being lifted up to the sky.
The hall love scene with Scarlett Johansson and Bruce Banner was so cringe worthy, it was so force and they have nothing in common. I remember in the movie endgame when Scarlett Johansson jumped off for the soul stone I don’t even think Bruce Banner cared?
for those who do not know the stunt double for captain America and Daredevil(from the netflix series) are the same person so that is why the fighting styles of the 2 characters are similar.
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"There's so many jokes in this film, and that's why I love the tone of this film - how there can be so many jokes, but yet you can have badass action sequences, you can have emotional moments, you can ramp up the story to 11 - it's great." That may be so - I don't remember any good jokes from the film (aside from Ultron's 'I can't physically throw up' and 'Oh for God's sake' lines) but in *every* *single* *way* Guardians of the Galaxy did it so much better...
Wakinyan Martinez Ronan could destroy an entire planet in one move - something Ultron needed an entire Robot army and a floating city to achieve. How is he a joke - he was defeated in a goofy way, but the film's meant to be goofy, and even then that was just to distract him long enough to get the Infinity Stone.
Javier Ramos After living hundreds of years of the extremely strict Kree ritualistic lifestyle, can you blame him being distracted at his moment of triumph by such an odd display...
To counter Joe's "destruction" point, in Man of Steel, Superman does almost nothing to save civilians. In AoU, a huge chunk of that last fight is devoted to nothing but them saving lives *everywhere they can*. In Man of Steel, there is no reason Clark couldn't just take the Zod fight out of the city to make sure there were no casualties. In AoU, *SSSSSSSPPPPPPOIIIILER* Ultron is gonna use this city as meteorite to *destroy all life on Earth*. They *had* to stay and fight in the city. Not to mention, they were fighting an *army of thousands*. And like Joe said, in Man of Steel's final fight Supes only fought *ONE MAN*. Ps. It's not the scale of destruction in a fight that matters. It's the context, and what they *do* in the fight that matters.
Lucas Stecz I didn't pull up the killing (which I'm fine with). But the only reason he saves that *one* family is because he would be directly responsible for their death. Superman shouldn't just save people when it's convenient for him. That's not his character.
Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure if Superman asked nicely, Zod would take the fight somewhere else. Zod had nothing to lose and he wouldn't just follow Superman to a safe place. Even if Superman dragged his ass somewhere else, Zod would just go back to Metropolis and destroy more shit! And this whole thing about Superman barely saving anyone is complete bullshit. Just to name a few, he saved a bus full of kids and risked his identity,saved a military guy, saved the colonel from Faoora, and the most important, he saved the entire fucking planet with little to no experience. And one man? Yeah, one man who has the capacity to destroy a planet with one blow.
*"Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure if Superman asked nicely, Zod would take the fight somewhere else. Zod had nothing to lose and he wouldn't just follow Superman to a safe place. Even if Superman dragged his ass somewhere else, Zod would just go back to Metropolis and destroy more shit!"* He was only going after Superman. He could've left the city. *"And one man? Yeah, one man who has the capacity to destroy a planet with one blow."* Considering that Superman has had his whole life to develop his powers and Zod had what? A couple of hours? Superman's not exactly at a disadvantage. *"He saved the entire fucking planet with little to no experience."* He had the help of the whole U.S Army. He barely did half of the work. Out of the what? Eight Kryptonians? He took out one and a robot. *"Just to name a few, he saved a bus full of kids and risked his identity"* I will give you that. He saved a bus full of kids. But like I said earlier. He only saves people when it is right there in front of his face, and any casualties in the situation would be directly his fault. *"saved the colonel from Faoora"* That was lucky timing, because if he was saving that jet he would've saved the other too. *"saved a military guy"* Again, right there. That would've been his fault if he didn't. See, he doesn't actively try to save lives. He only does it when the kill happens directly in front of him. He's more caught up in the fight than saving innocent people he's putting in harm's way. Like in the final fight when we see him *actually collapse a building*, and there are people in the street below it. But he does nothing to save the people under it. That would've been a good time to show him be a hero. Because, he didn't have to wait for the kill to be directly in front of his face for him to act.
THEULTIMATEPLAY I quote Zod "These humans that you adopted, I will take them all from you one by one!". He wasn't just after Superman, he was out to DESTROY THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE! I won't waste my time with this. Zod was throwing Superman all around the place and going through buildings like no tomorrow yet Superman is being blamed even though hes only one person. He is a hero, because he saved an entire planet. If Superman didn't give a shit, he would of kept the fight going and gone through every building and put innocents in danger. This is a realistic of view for Superman, not that Christopher Reeves stuff that he can just turn back time by flying very fast. In my opinion, this is one of the best incarnations of Superman to date because it shows his humanity and that he can't save everyone all the time.
Got bored of it half-way through... couldn't finish it. Yeah action and CGI is 10/10, but today this is pretty common and one might expect something else like character development or interesting story...
You should review more movies like this, don't just limit it to action movies and big releases. I for one did not like this movie but this simple vlog review/discussion between a group of friends formula kept me entertained none the less, great review guys.
Apparently, the opinions about that movie are much more 'divided' than some might think. Saw another review, rather in-depth about the various moments, and it seems there was LOOOOOT of dumb/face palming moments. Those 4 here sound maybe too 'positive' about everything..?
Man of steel superman does not even say one line about helping people AoU frist fight you see ironamn us back up armora to keep people away hulk buster fight he says ok time to try and get hulk away from the city last battle 60% of the fight is showing them getting the people away
bigevilworldwide1 my point is i love superman i am siting here right now wearing him all over my clothes and i want a good superman movie MoS was not that
bigevilworldwide1 Zod caused it, yes. but in no way did superman try to get him out of there, and dont say shit like " he cant move zod" because he can absolutely move him, how do you think he throws zod, and punches him through shit. it's quite apparent that you havent read any of the comics, otherwise you would know that supes main trait is striving to safe everyone from the destruction before the fight gets out of hand.
***** so? what's your point? superman was still throwing zod all over the place. he had enough energey to break his neck which arguebly is harder then throwing someone.
***** dude doesnt matter he's fucking superman killing just isnt a thing he does regularly. i could get him killing darkseid in the 3rd movie, but this is his first fucking movie he shouldnt have killed him, it's just bad writing the writers could have fixed this by adding in a device that could transport beings to the phantom zone.
Watch Man of Steel again. The whole movie he is saving people. The fact is, if God like beings were battling in a highly populated city people will die. Examples of him saving people: -oil rig -school bus - tries to save his father -Lois from robot on ship -again saves Lois from internal bleeding caused by robot -doesn't hit bullies -surrenders himself to zod in order to save planet -saves Lois from escape pod -warns people in Smallville to get inside -many soldiers in Smallville -destroys world engine LITERALLY SAVING EVERYONE ON THE ENTIRE PLANET that enough?
The movie industry is devolving into the same shit that's currently plaguing the video game industry. People see flashy action and CGI and automatically fall under the assumption that it's a good movie. The first Avengers movie was decent. Nothing spectacular, but well-paced and equipped with a solid structure. The second one was a bloated clusterfuck of senseless action scenes and shoehorned character arcs. But of course, the dumb masses are going to eat that shit up. We're talking about the same people who pay money to see Paul Blart: Mall Cop 2, after all.
Why would you declare that someone is dumb for liking this movie..... that's like saying people who don't like heavy metal have downs..... people will like what they like. Who the fuck are you to tell them what they like is stupid.... get off your mom's computer and find a hobby..... fucktard. ...
My only issues are that Avengers 2 felt like Iron Man 3 (for good or bad) never happened and that Ultron's motivation/creation felt rushed. I didn't mind the hatred the twins had, hatred clouds all reason and logic sooooo. I also didn't mind the romance aspect. It felt unnecessary, but it didn't feel offensive. I never got the hatred for Man of Steel. It wasn't perfect, but I really REALLY enjoyed the movie and thought it was well done. I agree with your earlier sentiments that it sucks Superman doesn't get his own proper sequel to help flesh his character out more (his origin set him up great, but he needs to get more development to be the proper Superman the fans love, positive and all justice and good and such). I'm not even a huge Superman fan either :P
I know I'm years late to say this. But people lean towards 2 way too off extremes for this movie. Its not a 9/10 but it's not a 5/10. I'd say 7-8. It's really good and even if it's not terribly deep, we can't take Avengers for granted. The fact that we got that Hulkbuster fight alone was amazing.
20:29 Hulk vision and fear was actually that fight scene (as i interpreted it) where everyone sees Hulk as monster and even Avengers (Stark at that moment) fight him to save civilians etc...
But in Man of Steel he didn't even try to save any civilian until Zod was gonna laser a family, then all of a sudden he cares. I will concede that he is one man and the Avengers is a large team.
He didn't care for the civilians because there was no way in fucking hell he could do it, so he went to the source of the problem to save the rest of the problem. In the words of Captain Kirk and Spock. "The Needs of the many, outweigh" "The Needs of the few."
George Baum the thing is that kind of morality is alien to 75+ years of Superman. Unless it's the Golden Age or the Modern Age and you're a fat cat profiting from the suffering of others, Supes will go out of his way to help you, even if it gives his opponents an edge. Destroying a building is a classic way to escape Superman, as he will go save everyone, giving you a chance to escape.
letmeknow Instead of actually doing it in one film like they already did in the first Avengers? Let's be honest, the only reason it'll be addressed in BvS is to give Batman a cheap reason to try to take Superman.
You're right, don't try to tear them a part from the inside Ultron, not only is it easier but its less work for you and it doesn't completely make sense for you as a villain. It also doesn't set up Civil War very well because people love when big green monsters tear up their city, nobody would think super heroes are bad after that! Right? Right?!?
Age of Ultron destruction: They make it a legit plot point in Civil War. It integrates it in the story naturally. Man of Steel destruction: They keep mentioning "this part of the city is empty at this 8 PM during the week" which is ridiculous. And it's mentioned about 5 times during the movie "this place is empty of civilians". Completely unnatural and silly.
My problem with this movie was that everyone received some form of character development, instead Banner. Where we got glimpses into the souls of the others Banner, upon losing control due to Scarlet's power, retreats inward of course and then goes into hiding. It kinda suck because I was hoping that with Banner's increased level of confidence in himself, we would soon see an appearance of the Grey Hulk where Banner has actual control over himself in the transformed state and helps the avengers both tactically and in combat as well. I dunno, it may fit with the character design but I still hated it.
I was thinking during that scene where there all hallucinating and remembering that it should have had banner trying to suicide but failing because the hulk wouldn't let him now that would've been good
Great review! And I'm glad to see Delrith and Angerbeard with you two now. That's awesome! I can't wait to see more content from you guys. Keep up the good work!
Though I'm getting the impression that it wasn't a popular idea with a lot of people, I actually thought that the Romantic involvement between Bruce Banner and Black Widow was the most interesting thing in the film. I like how they drew parrallels between the two characters of them both sharing some commonalities between themselves. Which were commonalities that I would've never saw otherwise.
Bad movie, bad script, bad directing, it doesnt follow the comics, bad jokes, is just feel like a filler. as a person that like superheroes movies it just feel lame and boring
great to hear from you AngryJoeShow I thought I was the only one. I find this movie more rewatchable than the first one. gonna get the Blue Ray with the "extended" cut, which the producers removed that Whedon wanted in the movie. . . . and Joe... look for articles about Quicksilver's death (by Whedon). :)
Honestly I don't get why Black Widow having a romance is a negative. Why does the only female member of the group have to be alone and without relationships? Everyone except Captain America has someone. Not to mention the complaining about the captured bit. Heroes get captured! Look out guys Tony Stark might have gotten captured in Iron Man 1. Thor in his first movie might have as well. Captain America got captured a few times in his movies too. We act like a female hero getting captured is tying into some kind of discrimination against women while instead having them be the only ones who avoid capture is insulting their characters. Black Widow got captured because she was doing her job and putting herself at risk, but no one cares about that.
+Yuri Ghost I'm by no means dissing the movie, I enjoyed it, but, it may be darker than the first one, yet that's not saying much lol... neither of these movies are dark in the slightest. If anyone thinks either of the Avengers movies are "dark", then they haven't seen an actual dark toned movie.
Joe, I'm pretty sure all the destruction in this movie was a giant middle-finger to Man of Steel, since we see the Avengers constantly saving people, even going out of their way to evacuate every single civilian during the climax before bringing the hammer down on Ultron's plan. And TELL ME Vision wasn't framed as Superman.
I know a lot of people are already saying it but, I thought that was the whole point behind the Hulk fight scene with Iron Man? Iron Man was trying to stop the Hulk's rampage after being manipulated by Scarlet Witch. (Hence that little bunker thing he used to try and slow him down). Throughout the scene you see Iron Man save people (the ones in the elevator) and even looked for a empty building to smash him with. By the end of the scene you see even Banner is angry/disappointed about the damage he cause, whereas Superman is supposed to be this symbol of hope and heroism yet he's smashing shit left and right when he could have easily just moved the fight elsewhere. Nevertheless great video Joe.
Samael527 I cant call it a Garbage of movie, at least in my opinion......BUT i understand why you did not like it. And to answer anyone, no i do not think marvel does perfect stuff, what they do fine is acllaimed while i recognize that there are things to be improoved. and dont worry at least from my part if you dislike the movie but i do, we all have different opinions. Have a nice day.
Anon I'm a Marvel fanboy, yet I don't think everything about it is perfect. I'm not calling you a hater. See, assumptions are the mother of all fuckups.
***** oh, i'm sorry, let me rephrase: "Some, not all, nor none, but not few, nor most, maybe half, maybe more, but obviously not a random number of people, since that would be a general assumption of each and every individual who isn't specifically guilty of popular belief, but since I cant get to name every single individual by his/her name for its thinking so i shall refer to a specific, unknown percentage of marvel fanboys, for whom I don't blame anyone specifically for such stereotypical thinking, believe everything marvel does is perfect and should be worshiped, and if you don't you're a hater." Happy?
I didn't get mad at at Black Widow's capture, because it was for probably ten minutes. Plus, she didn't just turn into Princess Peach/Zelda and just wait for Mario/Link to come find and rescue her. She sent out the signal to bring the Avengers to her location, and deal with Ultron. That played a huge part in them stopping his plans. Then she went right back to kicking ass. Yeah, she might not have really needed a love interest, but it's not like she was singled out. Tony, Thor, Steve in the first movie, all had love interests. It might have been out of character, but it wasn't a derailment. Her with Banner made no sense, especially since I thought they were setting something up with either Steve or Barton. I do like it that her and the Captain have a professional relationship, and she's just like a sister to Barton, and still say she's not the relationship type. But her and Banner, that was completely left field. Especially when you consider Betty Ross. Banner couldn't have forgotten about her. And whatever keeps him from her, keeps him from Widow as well.
Loved this movie, I even liked the romance thing. Other than that I don't really need to say anything else as what is said in this review reflects my own thoughts on the movie. 9/10 for me too. One thing I like about the Avengers movies, that I think have been missing from the other marvel movies is a really recognizable and great Theme song. I just love it when that Avengers theme starts, always epic.
More hulk, less romance, flesh out Thor's actions regarding the Vision and a bit more ultron screen time would have made this perfect but great movie. 7.8/10
I actually liked the romance part, especially the lullaby. Not only makes it sense to use a vocal trigger to calm him down but it made for a beautiful scene as well. And it wasn't completely out of left field either - there were quite a few hints in the first Avengers already. Oh, and Vision 'even talks a bit like Jarvis'? I wonder where that comes from...
Ok, at about 3:50, when Joe starts describing scenes from the movie, I had to stop this cause I don't want all my time with this movie ruined because they get too excited and forget to say that there'll be spoilers ahead.
I'd give it 8.6 out of 10 most likely (haven't seen it YET), because the number 1 problem directors have these days is still not making movies unpredictable. Maybe when taking off one of the characters, but still make us excited with way more random twists
What I think is the reason for Ultrons joking personality is that he was made like 2 days ago, but he slowly becomes more serious towards the ending, (voice deepens, gets angrier)
regarding Vision, if I'm not mistaken, he's originally created Green and Yellow costume, with Red face. At some part in 1990's they changed it to All White Vision. But now he's back with the old colors.
Actually, in the first film, it was Captain America and Thor. Though Iron Man was there, he didn't really do that much. Though the massive shock-wave that happened at the end of that, basically flattening the entire forest, from Thor's hammer(Mijolnr for you who care about that) hits Captain America's shield, that was re-used here, as well, but this time less OP(then again, it isn't a full force swing) and used to beat other people up.
Yeah, they didn't really use Black Widow very well from a super-hero perspective. Sure they gave her things to do, but I think we want her to be more a part of the team, not just be kept busy with a love story and so on. Also, given her back story in the movies she seemed to me like the LAST character that would be falling in love.
I actually thought Banner and Romanov's scenes were a great addition. They weren't cheesy. I saw two people who feel completely incapable of having a relationship being brought together and are given a glimpse of a possible solace in each other. I mean, Banner goes through a lot of internal struggles throughout the film, as well as Romanov, so it was nice seeing the two who are forced to hide it being brought together. There's especially a great scene at (*spoilers*) Hawkeyes' home when they discuss not being able to have a life together even if they wanted to (Romanov saying she cannot have children really hit me hard). Just thought I'd give my two cents, because it's being hated on a lot and I didn't mind it.
A lot of Hulk/BW scenes seem out of place, because Whedon had an original idea that involved the Grey Hulk (a more "calm" version of Hulk), but then he and Kevin Feige decided it would be much better to make a whole Grey Hulk movie out of it.
Everything you just said I agree with. Such a freaking fantastic film. In fact you guys in your discussion made me realize even more how great this movie really is. Dang it, I want to go out and watch it again.
In 5 years, you're going to look back and ask what happened to Marvel. Age of Ultron is where the story problems begin for this "Universe" / storyline. Tony Stark or one of the original Avengers should have died, but they put in a Red Shirt like we were supposed to care when he died. This is the money grab movie. Just ask yourself, why didn't quicksilver kill hawk-eye in the first fight? Why didn't Ultron take over the Iron Man suit(s)? And why are the planets greatest heroes hanging out at a party? Oh yea, because they needed to put the hammer scene in the beginning so everyone would trust Vision later. By the time America gets to Supergirl, it will truly be a shark jump moment. 6.5 stars out of 7.
Finally saw the film this past weekend. While I loved the first movie I honestly didn't like this one. In the first film there was a great amount of chemistry between the cast. This one seemed like it was really lacking. The cast just seemed to be going through the paces with no love for it. And most of the one liners just fell flat for me. The romance between Widow and Banner felt so forced. I know everyone says it was alluded to in the first movie but I didn't see that at all. Widow was terrified of Hulk and now all of the sudden she's in love with him? It didn't make sense. And I just can't see the character, as she's been portrayed so far, falling in love. She's an emotionless killer. The new team does nothing for me. With the original Avengers movie we had characters we were very familiar with coming together. It build our anticipation and was rewarding to see these heroes we had grown to love in one film. We have no connection with the new team. Minor characters from other films and completely new characters doesn't give the same feeling.
My personal favourites from the movie (hopefully no spoilers): - "No surrender!" - "Haha, you can't lift- wait, what?" - 'Lullaby' by Tony Stark - "Sorry." - "I think that's yours." "Holy sh**" did he just do that?!" - "... nobody would ever know..." - "You had to ask." - "Oh, for God's sake!" One of the best ones that made the audience (me included) burst out laughing.
I hope Infinity War is a bit more serious than Age of Ultron. I still expect the well timed jokes from RDJ and the rest of the crew, but I'm hoping that Thanos is a dark, evil villain. It would be weird if he's cracking jokes as he kills the Avengers.
2:58 It's Thanos. THAN-OS! You say it how you spell it! It's not Thaneose. The creator of the character confirmed this! FYI: First time I've ever kind of made an angry comment, but this has been building up forever. Sick of people mis-pronouncing these name. Makes me more sad than angry since they're supposed to be fans :/
I thought Ultron was really underwhelming, I was hoping for him to be really menacing but he spends more time cracking jokes than cracking skulls, literally every line has a joke in it so to me I never felt there was ever much threat to the Avengers, then the introduce the most powerful character in the movie and from that point it became too predictable, credit to James Spader though, he did the best he could with the material, but his character's writing let him down. Enjoyed the movie overall, although it kind of felt like filler for Infinity War 1 & 2
Ultron to me was amazing. He was designed to be an evil and dark version of tony stark, which they executed perfectly in that sense. Doesn't it make him seem more insane when he is plotting to murder billions and cracks up jokes about it or to plot to murder billions just plain and simple. This version of intron will murder lots of people and not care about it to the point that he jokes about it.
I agree with everything you said. I was expecting Ultron to be much more menacing a joke or two here and there would have been fine but they made him too comical.
Seenya b4 If that was what they intended then ok but I still didn't think it worked, it didn't help that all the trailers had him really serious as well.
We must've watched two different movies. Ultron was great and menacing. He was a great villain.
damagepersecond I couldn't help but think I was watching Raymond Reddington trapped in an Ultron suit.
If you put Thor's hammer in an elevator, would it still be able to go up?
Yes, the hammer itself isn't heavy. You can put it on a coat hanger no problem, you just need to be worthy to lift it
So the elevator is worthy?
(Qozy69) lolwhut The elevator is an inanimate object...
(Qozy69) lolwhut I am going to miss these conversations.
(Qozy69) lolwhut How does the Earth support his hammer in the first place if that's a problem?
TBH it's just mindless action, the movie doesn't make me wanna care about the characters.
TheWhaleTerm That's an ignorent comment
Fire Power You clearly don't know the difference between ignorance and an opinion!
Fire Power no it's not it's perfectly accurate. The whole movie just feels lifeless, generic and bland.
Ignorant? How is it ignorant? Cuz I saw the movie and made an opinion.... cmon dude ignorance is making a statement without really knowing what you're talking about...
The black widow and bruce banner relationship came out of nowhere at no point in the previous movies did they give any hint to them be anything more than friends(if even that)
People saying that Ultron was not menacing or even that this movie was not as good as the first one - these people confuse me. This movie was so good, and such an improvement over the first one in every way.
Yea. The first was not that great to me. Bust quick silver and ULTRON and vision made this movie great. I have it a 7.5 cause of a few flaws with scarlet witch and the some the odd "love" scenes.
The Sean Ward Show I enjoyed the movie a lot. and Ultron i felt him pretty nasty and charming with his quotes and behavior.
황원 It confuses me because I don't know what different they could have done. For me this movie raised the bar in every way, but that's just my opinion. So I'm gonna have a flame war or get heated about it, but I respectfully disagree with you. The first one was all about the thrill of seeing them together. This one has way more to it. But I also think the 2nd Matrix is the best one of those three so what do I know....
Ebola Chan They didnt crush his head, how can you believe he is dead :O/.
The Sean Ward Show because people believe they're smart because they hate something and those who like something are weak and dumb.
"vision sounds like Jarvis" lol joe the voice of Jarvis is vision 😂
the first comment I read here and it's on internet explorer
Wow, how amazing. I just pooped my pants of excitement.
Who is James Hader? And the other guy repeats it like it’s correct 🤣🤣🤣
the only problem i found with the movie was that ultron's creation seemed a bit rushed. there are scenes in the trailer that are not in the movie. i heard there will be a director's cut in blu-ray, so i want to watch what they cut
zanzibawrr Completely agree. They went straight to Ultron prime without really showing anything
DaxTran well wait till the directors cut cause they cut over an hour of film
austinmj64 over an hour?!?!?!? god fucking dammit
zanzibawrr i agree. i would have liked more backstory on quicksilver, and scarlet witch.
zanzibawrr what is the best infinity war comic to read?
Did anyone else think the CGI in the first few minutes of the movie looked REALLY bad?
I absolutely loved the movie but what the hell happened with that?
Too true, that shit was whack.
Chess RedEagle i was cringing in the theater at how bad that cg was. whats worse is that it was the FIRST SCENE
Yeah! I especially remember with some of the earlier fight scenes Thor and Cap didn't sometimes didn't have any lead in so it looked more like a twitch than a hit. I remember in the first scene there had like a large pipe and he twitched and a guy went flying.
Chess RedEagle YES. Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that. Everything else after those first few minutes was spectacular, though.
Chess RedEagle to be fair, i thought i was watching those choreographed stunt-plays you see at amusement parks
I actually felt Ultron was too casual. I would have rather him been darker/more stoic - like the trailer made him out to be. But yea, he was decent overall
John Cummings I agree, it wasn't Spader's fault tho, it's the characters writing.
John Cummings I thought ultron was great. They portrayed him as having a child-like mind which makes sense considering he is litterally a few days old. He's not a threat in that dark, menacing way (They're saving that for Thanos) but in that his methods are like that of a child. The world is an awful place so I'll just make all these bad humans go away...problem solved. You see him throw tantrums when things don't go his way, and when he is clearly losing he becomes afraid and unsure what to do...like a child.
John Cummings sooo basically you want him to be like that villain in thor the dark world? all stoic and no personality.......
John Cummings "darker/more stoic"like every other villain in every other movie...
Agreed. I also felt like they made him too weak.
Marvel really knows how to balance character development and great humour and that´s why their movies work so well. For some reason, DC Studios seems to think, that you can´t have funny and serious scenes in the same movie. They should watch Django Unchained, that movie is dark as hell and also extremely funny.
And for the record, I´m saying that because I want DC to be awesome, like I want for all movies.
Florian Narratio I don't think it's DC,I believe it's Warner bros, after all they created that "No joke Rumor." For once in Batman V Superman I'd like to see Supes and Bats enjoying a coffee together.
chow down They should just give HISHE the money to make an animated movie called ,,Coffee of Justice" :)
Florian Narratio Django Unchained is a good example. even better, Kick Ass, to me, it has almost everything, humor, dark, character development, gore, sad, even romance.
*****
Why? Because you´r Batman!
Florian Narratio Why cant you people just accept the fact that they are different companies..I like my superheroes to be fucking serious and not crack jokes in the middle of a crisis..And i dont want to see them drink coffee together.Damn!
Joe, we were never concerned about the destruction in Man of Steel, what we were concerned about was the DEATH. All throughout the battle of Metropolis, there were people dying left and right from either the dubstep drill or from Kal and Zod's fight. What was wrong with it was that not once did I ever get the impression while Kal was fighting Zod he was protecting the people and the city (other than the shoehorned neck-snap) in just about every building-shattering punch there was no conceivable way all the inhabitants of them could've survived. In Age of Ultron however, while we did get the impression that there were some civilian casualties, we constantly saw the Avengers go out of their way to protect the citizens. Hell, Cap himself said that he wouldn't leave one citizen behind on that chunk of city under his watch, when Tony was in the Hulkbuster suit he made sure that the building he rammed Hulk into was completely unoccupied. Quicksilver even sacrificed himself so that Hawkeye and that kid would survive. Yes, not every citizen survived, and I'm pretty sure we even saw a few die onscreen, but you know what, at least they fucking tried to save every citizen, not just caring about the world at large but also the people that could've died right there. In Man of Steel, while Kal did prevent the world from being destroyed, he didn't seem to care about the thousands that dropped like flies around him while he rammed Zod into several buildings. He should've at least tried to save as many as he could, maybe
Then it would've been more impactful and understanding when he had to kill Zod. That's why the Avengers feel like genuine heroes, they actually care about the citizens around them and not just saving the vast majority at the expense of the minority.
The people should have ran away. Instead they stood there like idiots. The bystanders in the reeve movies were just as dumb.
The romance made sense. They started setting up a very close relationship between the two in the first Avengers movie...
Also, the whole "damsel in distress" complaint is BS. It wouldn't make sense for Banner or Hawkeye to get caught. One for obvious reasons and the other because he was piloting the quinjet.
Even still, the fact that Ultron doesn't kill her outright--and thoroughly demonstrates that he can--humanizes the villain. He says that she is all he has left.
Even STILL she's barely captured for ten minutes.
Jacob McQuaid I completely agree. People get obsessed about this damsel in distress BS and its stupid. Look at the MCU, heroes "male heroes" get captured all the damn time. So why is it not offensive when they get captured but it is when Black Widow is?
She even helps rescue herself and it gives them a way to find Ultron's base of operations. People need to figure out that if we want equality in the world then we need to have equality. Complaining about Black Widow being captured insults the effort she put in that lead to her capture in the first place.
I didn't like romance between them it seems forced
Sorry, but why doesn't Ultron kill her?
JTHmonk3y
Because then he's completely on his own. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver had run out on him (literally). He's an artificial intelligence and in a lot of ways the dark mirror of Tony Stark. Who built Ultron with the mindset of being afraid of everyone dying and being alone.
But even simplifying it down, Ultron needed someone to be there to witness his victory. He basically needed someone other than himself to talk to.
JTHmonk3y
*Spoilers*
He wants companionship. He says, as she wakes up, "You're all that I have left".
He then demonstrates his power by destroying his own body. He could *easily* have torn her apart but does not, based solely on sentiment.
Meh. Didn't do much for me.
The jokes felt pretty hit-and-miss.
For a newly-formed AI, Ultron sounded FAR too human: laconic, world-weary etc.Can't help but feel that he should've been more...robotic.
A lot of the time it felt as though the rest of the movie only existed to move between fight scenes.
After four movies, Tony STILL hasn't learned to just be fucking honest, and that concealing everything all the time just causes problems?
Banner agrees to keep their work on Ultron secret, just like that?!
The Maximoffs want to kill Tony, despite him clearly regretting his former life? And they had no problems working with Ultron (initially)? They didn't think to establish his intentions first?
Ultron's best plan for world extinction is...to raise a village up into the atmosphere and then drop it? Seems a bit too convenient: like they thought "what would make a cool final battle setting?" and worked backwards from there.
I just wasn't really bothered with anyone, so i guess the fight scenes didn't do much for me. The novelty had worn off after the first Avengers, maybe?
So yeah: it didn't do much for me :P
***** That one of Tony's defining traits in all version of him. He keeps everything to himself because he feels he only should bear the burden. The Civil War Storyline in the comics could have ended halfway through if he just fessed up to Cap and admit he did want to work a compromise with the Anti-Registration faction. The Subsequent Secret Invasion and Dark Reign are also results of Stark's stubbornness.
Comic Banner was much worse. You'd be amazed how many times Marvel Universe "geniuses" get into that situation.
Don't know the comics, but fair point(s).
The positives outweigh the negatives by miles for me.
***** "rest of the movie only existed to move between fight scenes" Sounds like an attention span issue.
"After four movies, Tony STILL hasn't learned to just be fucking honest" In the first movie Tony admitted he was Iron Man, in the third movie he told a terrorist exactly where his house is... Seems like he just can't keep his mouth shut when he probably should... Also, it's kind of a staple of Marvel, and DC.
"Banner agrees to keep their work on Ultron secret, just like that"... He agrees with Tony.
"The Maximoffs want to kill Tony, despite him clearly regretting his former life" They didn't know that, they spent two days! That is at least 48 hours staring at death with Stark's name on it.... after their home, family, and life got destroyed by Stark weapons. That would fuck with anyone. Also, it is established that they are "young punks"... as in teenagers or very young adults. They are very impressionable and damaged.
"Ultron's best plan for world extinction is...to raise a village up into the atmosphere and then drop it" Ultron is established that he is symbolically obsessed. Singing the Pinocchio song, marveled at the church in the center of the city, and dinosaurs went extinct from an asteroid... For a super villain like that, it is pretty much mathematical at that point. Nukes would be to cliche' and the fallout would permanently ruin the world.
Mattomaton Took the words right out of my mouth.
Also, the thing about Ultron not being robotic enough just completely ignores the part where IT IS POINTED OUT that he gets a lot of his personality from Tony Stark and if he was more robotic, he would be lame as fuck.
lol his name is James Spader.
***** He knows. He puts an annotation up explaining that :)
***** what? In the video they accidentally say James Hater instead of James Spader, so I was just pointing that out. It's not a big deal and they already corrected it with an annotation.
How do they mess that up? Not nitpicking but im saying
DMCEagles05 They did it all in one take, I think. Mistakes happen.
DMCEagles05 wow its like u dont do mistakes in ur life....people do mistakes
I read that someone made a comment. While I enjoyed Stan Lee's appearance in this movie alot. It would have been really funny if at the end Stan Lee goes back to get something he had left at the party and notices it's underneath Thor's hammer, and he just picks it up without thinking, grabs what he was after and set's it back down with them staring at him with their mouths wide open. Only for him to not realize what he had done, saying "What? I just wanted my magazine that I left at the party".
Or better yet, a comic of the "Avengers" that he left behind...
Jay Stargazer ....WISh that happened in the movie!
Jay Stargazer LOL That would definitely be funny.
+Jay Stargazer Nah, too obvious. He just lifts it up, takes his magizine, and nobody comments on it, maybe because none of the cast notices.
"Vision even sounds a little bit like Jarvis!"
Uhh, Joe, you must've not heard Tony and Bruce say that they had uploaded Jarvis's subconscious into The Vision...
So... Joe's in the JonTron Star Wars special confirmed?
Jackendo I was thinking JeremyJahns, but you're probably right!
Jackendo yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyep
*****
That's nice. We love him.
Jackendo as well as strippin, dodger, and probably every other person working for polaris/maker studios :P
Jackendo yeah with angry joe
The movie wasnt mindless action, Ultron is the second best villain in the MCU, and I really cared for the Hulk and Black Widows relationship. I was surprised they pulled off a great squeal to all the Phase 2 movies. Ironman wants to protect the Earth from another alien invasion, Thor wants to clean the mess his brother Loki made on Earth, and Captain America wants to rid of Hydra and rebuild S.H.I.E.L.D. It starts and finishes with excitement that will lead into Civil War. :D
riyuma1990ri I want to end asking in your opinion, if Ultron is No 2, who is the No 1?
Mine is Winter Soldier cause he is a badass. But he's more of a Anti-hero
lsebastian9086 mine would be Loki, then 3rd would be Wilson Fisk.
DankyDre420
I admit i cant decode on villains yet tough Stane is one of my faves. and i heard Kingpin was done pretty well in the series. I admit i dont followe Daredevil, since im not much into too dark enviroments but..how is the series?
lsebastian9086 it's amazing.
I felt the movie was pretty damn fun for me, even if you could argue it's not great. From what I've heard, Joss Wheadon wanted a bit more control over the project, but Marvel/Disney kind of had him on the "checklist" for this movie and the Thor scenes with him in the pool were actually kept in by Marvel, even as distracting as they could be.
***** Well whatever you heard is bullshit. Joss Wheadon's isn't in charge of editing the movie.
Dr Doom Certified Blogger That sounds more like confirming the speculation I've been hearing that he wasn't given enough control over the project.
***** Disney isn't gonna give a director full control over editing a movie this big just like how they aren't gonna give JJ Abrams full creative control over editing Star Wars. Joss Wheadon's not a dumbass, there's no way in hell he was expecting the amount of control in the editing process as your trying to suggest.
Dr Doom Certified Blogger Not in the editing process, man. I mean the overall "flow" of the film, like adding the Thor in the pool scenes. For the events going on, I'll agree to other in say they seemed very out of place when you could have easily put that kind of foreshadowing in Guardians 2 or Ragnarok.
***** Whatever Joss Wheadon wanted in the movie he got., what Marvel decided to keep in the editing room is another story. Last time i checked Disney was the one shelling out millions on the production budget so they have the right to edit THEIR movie however they want.
- Avengers: Age of Ultron:
Metascore: 76/100.
Userscore: 8.3/10.
*WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD*
Honestly, the first avengers far surpasses the second part... I thought Ultra would be badass, but to me, he felt like a lesser version of Loki but with a different objective. Most of the time I couldn't really take him seriously since he was making jokes left and right.
Another thing I want to note is, where the hell did the love relationship between Bruce Banner and Black Widow come from? They never had a love interest between each other in the first movie (or it was probably because I haven't seen the first part in a long time) and besides it felt too rushed between those two.
Last but not least, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, these two did great in acting, I hated them in the beginning but I started to actually like them during the course of the movie, but just because of issues between Paramount Studios and 20th Century Fox, they just had to kill off Quicksilver?? *sigh*
Whatever, it was a great movie regardless, I loved the jokes, especially if your worthy if Thor's hammer or not
Sorry I meant *ULTRON*
RedCell114 its whedon, so there has be some sort of juvenile romantic tension between team/crew members.
RedCell114 I though the jokes were funny as shit lol
+RedCell114 you missed the point that part of toni starks was imbedded in ultron .... no idea how you missed that lol.
I myself thought the jokes were funny but the fact that he was making them kinda ruined it for me a little since his character doesn't ever make jokes
dude..Ultron was one of the worst villains of all time,not intimidating at all, kept getting his ass beat and full of 1 liners, hes like a robot loki, if anything the ones that tear avengers apart are the twins
Well, maybe they didn't want him to be intimidating.
Superm4n Batm4n it was pretty intimidating when he almost made everything on the planet extinct
Superm4n Batm4n He never got beat once till the end :). He has still not been defeated that is why he is intimidating.
I agree at no point was i afraid of him or what he might do even when he wanted to wipe off all life on earth I couldn't take him seriously
Superm4n Batm4n Ultron was a good villain imo (mainly becuase of the incredible voice of James Spader), but he could has been so much more. In the trailers it look like he would DESTROY the team, but in the actual film he is not like that at all. Iron Man almost beat him, alone! WTF! If Marvel is going to create a team of heroes, make the villain super powerful, not him and a generic army of robots, for fuck's sake.
However, I really did liked the movie overall, way better than the first one.
Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch debuted in Captain America: Winter Soldier, not Guardians of the Galaxy
did they say james hader?? its spader lol
Also, I loved Ultron in the movie. I'm reading these comments and seeing people wish he was more serious. But I really like how much of a jokester he was. Kinda like an evil Tony Stark.
Only makes sense that he's so darkly funny, it makes it scarier because he's so evil but he thinks it's a joke.
Javier Ramos Agreed. I was going into the movie expecting him to be dark and serious. But wound up absolutely loving how comedic he was. Think my favorite part was the "Oh for God's sake" when Hulk threw him out of the jet.
***** From what i read, Wheddon and aparently Kevin Feige did not want James Spader to just do a robotic voice. and for all his humor sense, Ultron was still nasty in his plan of going to cause human extermination. altrough i admit one of the tantrums i liked, was when Pietro and Wanda changed minds and quitted his plan, and Ultron's reaction was not one of anger or "you will pay for doublecrossing me"...but more like a person who made an ankward comment and everyone leaving the conversation.
***** For me it was because, in all the trailers, he was portrayed as a serious and dark villain, and then all of a sudden all he does is get his arse kicked and make funny one liners.
I'm gonna be honest... It's not great but it's still good right? Like it's still really enjoyable but there are some problems with it.
What problems?
Forced love story, the asteroid made of a city makes no sense (when did he make thrusters built in the city) and the pacing was kind of off (awesome fight, small party, fight, second fight, Hawkeye's house etc)
Possibility And how ultron wants only androids left on earth because... Tony Stark.
@@jorb333 Why are you saying right?
Like if you didnt see it the movie
And on top of that you act like everyone dislikes it
How Tf you say a movie is not good but enjoyable 😔
@@nintendostudios3753 I didn't say it's not enjoyable I said there are problems with it. Read it again, and what makes you think I didn't see the movie
James Hater?
FlashPool ikr
FlashPool I wonder if they got his name confused with Bill Hader. Either way pretty embarrassing.
Captain BillyMays They put an annotation in the video to correct it.
FlashPool "He hates YOU the most!"
Hunter Hughes otherjoe fat otherjoe??
I feel like Ultron isn't as sinister as we was portrayed in the first trailer, he just gave off this bad ass "I'm going to make the Avengers beg for mercy" vibe.
I'm surprised you people aren't tired as fuck of superhero movies, especially Marvel's.. They all use the same formula with the same cheap one-liners and kid friendly tone. I was severly disappointed in Ultron in this one. In the same vein as the Mandarin, the films messed up the great things about the iconic villains. Such a wasted potential and the messy plotting and characters should make Whedon consider going back to script-writing classes. Come on, people, the CGI isn't even that exciting anymore. I'll look forward to Mad Max instead.
HrTjernobyl Actually, that's the thing: they don't all use the same formula. Winter Soldier is way different from the first Cap, and Guardians was very different as well. I'll admit that the two first Iron Man movies, and Thor movies, and the two Avengers, are similar to each other within the same sub-franchise. But then, DC's formula seems to be gritty and dark and sulky. Works, too. Just two different takes on the genre. Like them both.
HrTjernobyl Yes, because as we all know, insinuating Black Widow and Hulk fucking and a guy getting his ARM CUT OFF is kid friendly.
What did you expect terminator genesis.
HrTjernobyl I don't agree with the things you say, but I respect your opinion. I did find it funny that everyone complained about all the superhero films ending with some hole in the sky opening up, so Avengers: AoU decided to intentionally do the exact opposite. So instead, in Ultron, we have the ground being lifted up to the sky.
HrTjernobyl We've got an Edgylord here! Because we all know that a movie can only be serious if everything is dark and moody!
The hall love scene with Scarlett Johansson and Bruce Banner was so cringe worthy, it was so force and they have nothing in common. I remember in the movie endgame when Scarlett Johansson jumped off for the soul stone I don’t even think Bruce Banner cared?
for those who do not know the stunt double for captain America and Daredevil(from the netflix series) are the same person so that is why the fighting styles of the 2 characters are similar.
A Superman shirt... In a Marvel review...
...GrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Just kidding, great review.
Did you just turn into the hulk?
Stuff Stuff
If your reply to my comment gets more thumbs up than my comment, I swear to Thor I'm gonna...GrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Ed C23 You wouldn't like me when I'm replying.
and ofc joe couldn't go a minute without defending MoS even though this movie ha NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
"There's so many jokes in this film, and that's why I love the tone of this film - how there can be so many jokes, but yet you can have badass action sequences, you can have emotional moments, you can ramp up the story to 11 - it's great."
That may be so - I don't remember any good jokes from the film (aside from Ultron's 'I can't physically throw up' and 'Oh for God's sake' lines) but in *every* *single* *way* Guardians of the Galaxy did it so much better...
Demonflesh spawn Disagreed. I felt both this and Guardians were pretty funny and different from each other enough to be fun.
Tbe guardians of the galaxy movie the villain was a fucking joke. The action was ok and the jokes were funny though.
Wakinyan Martinez Ronan could destroy an entire planet in one move - something Ultron needed an entire Robot army and a floating city to achieve. How is he a joke - he was defeated in a goofy way, but the film's meant to be goofy, and even then that was just to distract him long enough to get the Infinity Stone.
Yea Ronin COULD do that but he got distracted by a dancing star lord and blasted by a racoon
Javier Ramos After living hundreds of years of the extremely strict Kree ritualistic lifestyle, can you blame him being distracted at his moment of triumph by such an odd display...
To counter Joe's "destruction" point, in Man of Steel, Superman does almost nothing to save civilians. In AoU, a huge chunk of that last fight is devoted to nothing but them saving lives *everywhere they can*. In Man of Steel, there is no reason Clark couldn't just take the Zod fight out of the city to make sure there were no casualties. In AoU, *SSSSSSSPPPPPPOIIIILER* Ultron is gonna use this city as meteorite to *destroy all life on Earth*. They *had* to stay and fight in the city. Not to mention, they were fighting an *army of thousands*. And like Joe said, in Man of Steel's final fight Supes only fought *ONE MAN*. Ps. It's not the scale of destruction in a fight that matters. It's the context, and what they *do* in the fight that matters.
Wait why does superman kill Zod? Oh ya that's right, TO SAVE CITIZENS.
Lucas Stecz I didn't pull up the killing (which I'm fine with). But the only reason he saves that *one* family is because he would be directly responsible for their death. Superman shouldn't just save people when it's convenient for him. That's not his character.
Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure if Superman asked nicely, Zod would take the fight somewhere else. Zod had nothing to lose and he wouldn't just follow Superman to a safe place. Even if Superman dragged his ass somewhere else, Zod would just go back to Metropolis and destroy more shit! And this whole thing about Superman barely saving anyone is complete bullshit. Just to name a few, he saved a bus full of kids and risked his identity,saved a military guy, saved the colonel from Faoora, and the most important, he saved the entire fucking planet with little to no experience. And one man? Yeah, one man who has the capacity to destroy a planet with one blow.
*"Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure if Superman asked nicely, Zod would take the fight somewhere else. Zod had nothing to lose and he wouldn't just follow Superman to a safe place. Even if Superman dragged his ass somewhere else, Zod would just go back to Metropolis and destroy more shit!"* He was only going after Superman. He could've left the city. *"And one man? Yeah, one man who has the capacity to destroy a planet with one blow."* Considering that Superman has had his whole life to develop his powers and Zod had what? A couple of hours? Superman's not exactly at a disadvantage. *"He saved the entire fucking planet with little to no experience."* He had the help of the whole U.S Army. He barely did half of the work. Out of the what? Eight Kryptonians? He took out one and a robot. *"Just to name a few, he saved a bus full of kids and risked his identity"* I will give you that. He saved a bus full of kids. But like I said earlier. He only saves people when it is right there in front of his face, and any casualties in the situation would be directly his fault. *"saved the colonel from Faoora"* That was lucky timing, because if he was saving that jet he would've saved the other too. *"saved a military guy"* Again, right there. That would've been his fault if he didn't. See, he doesn't actively try to save lives. He only does it when the kill happens directly in front of him. He's more caught up in the fight than saving innocent people he's putting in harm's way. Like in the final fight when we see him *actually collapse a building*, and there are people in the street below it. But he does nothing to save the people under it. That would've been a good time to show him be a hero. Because, he didn't have to wait for the kill to be directly in front of his face for him to act.
THEULTIMATEPLAY I quote Zod "These humans that you adopted, I will take them all from you one by one!". He wasn't just after Superman, he was out to DESTROY THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE! I won't waste my time with this. Zod was throwing Superman all around the place and going through buildings like no tomorrow yet Superman is being blamed even though hes only one person. He is a hero, because he saved an entire planet. If Superman didn't give a shit, he would of kept the fight going and gone through every building and put innocents in danger. This is a realistic of view for Superman, not that Christopher Reeves stuff that he can just turn back time by flying very fast. In my opinion, this is one of the best incarnations of Superman to date because it shows his humanity and that he can't save everyone all the time.
Got bored of it half-way through... couldn't finish it. Yeah action and CGI is 10/10, but today this is pretty common and one might expect something else like character development or interesting story...
Angry Joe: (With full confidence) James HADER.
*facepalm*
Apparently, though, Ultron was actually built by Antman, not Stark. But whatever
L Faraone In the comics, yeah. Not in the movie.
Wudderz yeah but who built their vision
edejor Ultron, actually.
Different universes, man, different universes.
Yes in the comic books, but since antman isn't a movie thing yet then they had to change it
Anyone realised that Angry Joe is wearing a new shirt. It's about time Joe.
You should review more movies like this, don't just limit it to action movies and big releases. I for one did not like this movie but this simple vlog review/discussion between a group of friends formula kept me entertained none the less, great review guys.
Apparently, the opinions about that movie are much more 'divided' than some might think.
Saw another review, rather in-depth about the various moments, and it seems there was LOOOOOT of dumb/face palming moments.
Those 4 here sound maybe too 'positive' about everything..?
Man of steel
superman does not even say one line about helping people
AoU
frist fight you see ironamn us back up armora to keep people away
hulk buster fight he says ok time to try and get hulk away from the city
last battle 60% of the fight is showing them getting the people away
bigevilworldwide1 my point is
i love superman i am siting here right now wearing him all over my clothes and i want a good superman movie MoS was not that
bigevilworldwide1 Zod caused it, yes. but in no way did superman try to get him out of there, and dont say shit like " he cant move zod" because he can absolutely move him, how do you think he throws zod, and punches him through shit. it's quite apparent that you havent read any of the comics, otherwise you would know that supes main trait is striving to safe everyone from the destruction before the fight gets out of hand.
*****
so? what's your point? superman was still throwing zod all over the place. he had enough energey to break his neck which arguebly is harder then throwing someone.
***** dude doesnt matter he's fucking superman killing just isnt a thing he does regularly. i could get him killing darkseid in the 3rd movie, but this is his first fucking movie he shouldnt have killed him, it's just bad writing the writers could have fixed this by adding in a device that could transport beings to the phantom zone.
Watch Man of Steel again. The whole movie he is saving people. The fact is, if God like beings were battling in a highly populated city people will die. Examples of him saving people:
-oil rig
-school bus
- tries to save his father
-Lois from robot on ship
-again saves Lois from internal bleeding caused by robot
-doesn't hit bullies
-surrenders himself to zod in order to save planet
-saves Lois from escape pod
-warns people in Smallville to get inside
-many soldiers in Smallville
-destroys world engine LITERALLY SAVING EVERYONE ON THE ENTIRE PLANET
that enough?
I can bet that his name is a Jontron XD
The movie industry is devolving into the same shit that's currently plaguing the video game industry. People see flashy action and CGI and automatically fall under the assumption that it's a good movie.
The first Avengers movie was decent. Nothing spectacular, but well-paced and equipped with a solid structure. The second one was a bloated clusterfuck of senseless action scenes and shoehorned character arcs.
But of course, the dumb masses are going to eat that shit up. We're talking about the same people who pay money to see Paul Blart: Mall Cop 2, after all.
Why would you declare that someone is dumb for liking this movie..... that's like saying people who don't like heavy metal have downs..... people will like what they like. Who the fuck are you to tell them what they like is stupid.... get off your mom's computer and find a hobby..... fucktard. ...
CoolBreeze055 I've clearly struck a nerve.
Cry harder, fanboy. :)
CoolBreeze055
People hate Transformers. People love Marvel. And this is really wierd, both are dumb mindless movie with no story.
robhans5 Exactly.
Mindless action does not make a movie "good". It makes it feel bloated and completely pointless, which the second Avengers film is.
Bad day?
My only issues are that Avengers 2 felt like Iron Man 3 (for good or bad) never happened and that Ultron's motivation/creation felt rushed.
I didn't mind the hatred the twins had, hatred clouds all reason and logic sooooo. I also didn't mind the romance aspect. It felt unnecessary, but it didn't feel offensive.
I never got the hatred for Man of Steel. It wasn't perfect, but I really REALLY enjoyed the movie and thought it was well done. I agree with your earlier sentiments that it sucks Superman doesn't get his own proper sequel to help flesh his character out more (his origin set him up great, but he needs to get more development to be the proper Superman the fans love, positive and all justice and good and such).
I'm not even a huge Superman fan either :P
hilarious that after Joe said "Hader" then Thor just went with it and also said "Hader"
I actually liked this movie better than the first one, fuck it. I had fun
spoiler alert!!
Stuff happens
Kiran Javaid You ruined it. Delete your comment and just go away. :)
Kiran Javaid fuck sake I was gonna see it too
Thanks for ruining the movie :(
You should have wrote DEEZ NUTZ!!
Kiran Javaid I'm reading all those responses and don't know if they're sarcastic or if you edited your comment
Anything that's popular WILL be hatted upon, it's like a law.
I know I'm years late to say this. But people lean towards 2 way too off extremes for this movie. Its not a 9/10 but it's not a 5/10. I'd say 7-8. It's really good and even if it's not terribly deep, we can't take Avengers for granted. The fact that we got that Hulkbuster fight alone was amazing.
I am even later and gave it an 8/10
20:29 Hulk vision and fear was actually that fight scene (as i interpreted it) where everyone sees Hulk as monster and even Avengers (Stark at that moment) fight him to save civilians etc...
But in Man of Steel he didn't even try to save any civilian until Zod was gonna laser a family, then all of a sudden he cares. I will concede that he is one man and the Avengers is a large team.
He didn't care for the civilians because there was no way in fucking hell he could do it, so he went to the source of the problem to save the rest of the problem.
In the words of Captain Kirk and Spock.
"The Needs of the many, outweigh"
"The Needs of the few."
George Baum My problem is he NEVER acknowledges the damage he's doing, though. If he had done that, it would have felt MORE like Superman.
George Baum the thing is that kind of morality is alien to 75+ years of Superman. Unless it's the Golden Age or the Modern Age and you're a fat cat profiting from the suffering of others, Supes will go out of his way to help you, even if it gives his opponents an edge. Destroying a building is a classic way to escape Superman, as he will go save everyone, giving you a chance to escape.
***** They will in B V S
letmeknow Instead of actually doing it in one film like they already did in the first Avengers? Let's be honest, the only reason it'll be addressed in BvS is to give Batman a cheap reason to try to take Superman.
There was absolutely no reason for Hulk and Iron Man to fight other than just to show them to fight. This movie sucked and made no sense.
You're right, don't try to tear them a part from the inside Ultron, not only is it easier but its less work for you and it doesn't completely make sense for you as a villain. It also doesn't set up Civil War very well because people love when big green monsters tear up their city, nobody would think super heroes are bad after that! Right? Right?!?
Maybe you just weren't smart enough to follow it
Racerprose Even the movie said it made no sense. :D
"Quick Review of avengers" 26 minutes lol
Age of Ultron destruction: They make it a legit plot point in Civil War. It integrates it in the story naturally.
Man of Steel destruction: They keep mentioning "this part of the city is empty at this 8 PM during the week" which is ridiculous. And it's mentioned about 5 times during the movie "this place is empty of civilians". Completely unnatural and silly.
My problem with this movie was that everyone received some form of character development, instead Banner. Where we got glimpses into the souls of the others Banner, upon losing control due to Scarlet's power, retreats inward of course and then goes into hiding. It kinda suck because I was hoping that with Banner's increased level of confidence in himself, we would soon see an appearance of the Grey Hulk where Banner has actual control over himself in the transformed state and helps the avengers both tactically and in combat as well. I dunno, it may fit with the character design but I still hated it.
I agree, as much as I loved this movie hulk was underplayed.
I was thinking during that scene where there all hallucinating and remembering that it should have had banner trying to suicide but failing because the hulk wouldn't let him now that would've been good
Daniel Gomez you, I like you, why must you have ze good ideas!?!?!
James Hader is my favorite actor...
Other Joe seal of approval!
Did I just hear James Hater at 3:13
Great review! And I'm glad to see Delrith and Angerbeard with you two now. That's awesome! I can't wait to see more content from you guys. Keep up the good work!
Though I'm getting the impression that it wasn't a popular idea with a lot of people, I actually thought that the Romantic involvement between Bruce Banner and Black Widow was the most interesting thing in the film. I like how they drew parrallels between the two characters of them both sharing some commonalities between themselves. Which were commonalities that I would've never saw otherwise.
I'm surprised that Joe loved it since he's always so critical
I wouldn't say fanboy since he's way more a dc fanboy
Bad movie, bad script, bad directing, it doesnt follow the comics, bad jokes, is just feel like a filler. as a person that like superheroes movies it just feel lame and boring
AoU: 9/10
BvS: 6/10
To quote a GOOD Spider-man Movie.... Are you serious??
great to hear from you AngryJoeShow I thought I was the only one.
I find this movie more rewatchable than the first one. gonna get the Blue Ray with the "extended" cut, which the producers removed that Whedon wanted in the movie.
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and Joe... look for articles about Quicksilver's death (by Whedon). :)
Honestly I don't get why Black Widow having a romance is a negative. Why does the only female member of the group have to be alone and without relationships? Everyone except Captain America has someone. Not to mention the complaining about the captured bit.
Heroes get captured! Look out guys Tony Stark might have gotten captured in Iron Man 1. Thor in his first movie might have as well. Captain America got captured a few times in his movies too. We act like a female hero getting captured is tying into some kind of discrimination against women while instead having them be the only ones who avoid capture is insulting their characters. Black Widow got captured because she was doing her job and putting herself at risk, but no one cares about that.
avengers age oif ultron is trash compared to the first it is painfully clishe. besides the movie was clearly made for kids, it was painfull to see...
Notice how nobody cares
you care enough to coment
What movie did you watch?
+Yuri Ghost I'm by no means dissing the movie, I enjoyed it, but, it may be darker than the first one, yet that's not saying much lol... neither of these movies are dark in the slightest. If anyone thinks either of the Avengers movies are "dark", then they haven't seen an actual dark toned movie.
WHO CARES?!!
Age Of Ultron is an awesome movie, I loved everything about it.
I loved this movie!
Joe, I'm pretty sure all the destruction in this movie was a giant middle-finger to Man of Steel, since we see the Avengers constantly saving people, even going out of their way to evacuate every single civilian during the climax before bringing the hammer down on Ultron's plan.
And TELL ME Vision wasn't framed as Superman.
I know a lot of people are already saying it but, I thought that was the whole point behind the Hulk fight scene with Iron Man? Iron Man was trying to stop the Hulk's rampage after being manipulated by Scarlet Witch. (Hence that little bunker thing he used to try and slow him down). Throughout the scene you see Iron Man save people (the ones in the elevator) and even looked for a empty building to smash him with. By the end of the scene you see even Banner is angry/disappointed about the damage he cause, whereas Superman is supposed to be this symbol of hope and heroism yet he's smashing shit left and right when he could have easily just moved the fight elsewhere. Nevertheless great video Joe.
6/10 descent!
Honestly, didn't like this movie. How can anyone stand this garbage?
Samael527 Because not everybody's you lol
Samael527 because marvel fanboys think everything marvel does is perfect and should be worshiped, and if you don't, you're a hater
Samael527 I cant call it a Garbage of movie, at least in my opinion......BUT i understand why you did not like it. And to answer anyone, no i do not think marvel does perfect stuff, what they do fine is acllaimed while i recognize that there are things to be improoved. and dont worry at least from my part if you dislike the movie but i do, we all have different opinions. Have a nice day.
Anon I'm a Marvel fanboy, yet I don't think everything about it is perfect. I'm not calling you a hater.
See, assumptions are the mother of all fuckups.
***** oh, i'm sorry, let me rephrase:
"Some, not all, nor none, but not few, nor most, maybe half, maybe more, but obviously not a random number of people, since that would be a general assumption of each and every individual who isn't specifically guilty of popular belief, but since I cant get to name every single individual by his/her name for its thinking so i shall refer to a specific, unknown percentage of marvel fanboys, for whom I don't blame anyone specifically for such stereotypical thinking, believe everything marvel does is perfect and should be worshiped, and if you don't you're a hater."
Happy?
this movie blew ass
I didn't get mad at at Black Widow's capture, because it was for probably ten minutes. Plus, she didn't just turn into Princess Peach/Zelda and just wait for Mario/Link to come find and rescue her. She sent out the signal to bring the Avengers to her location, and deal with Ultron. That played a huge part in them stopping his plans. Then she went right back to kicking ass. Yeah, she might not have really needed a love interest, but it's not like she was singled out. Tony, Thor, Steve in the first movie, all had love interests. It might have been out of character, but it wasn't a derailment. Her with Banner made no sense, especially since I thought they were setting something up with either Steve or Barton. I do like it that her and the Captain have a professional relationship, and she's just like a sister to Barton, and still say she's not the relationship type. But her and Banner, that was completely left field. Especially when you consider Betty Ross. Banner couldn't have forgotten about her. And whatever keeps him from her, keeps him from Widow as well.
3:11 when he says James Hader, none of his friends corrected him? The thor cosplayer's expression then, made me lmao!!
Avengers: Age of Ultron
9/10 ? u serious joe?
its 5/10 if not 4/10
5 or 4 out of ten? You serious Kai? It's easily 8/10 or 7.5
Mason H honestly yes..i liked first 8/10..second was like cash only and Rush
kaicooper 87 You're just hopping on the hate bandwagon, idk who started it but its cool now to hate AoU.
That's just your opinion
YEAH JOE! HOW DARE YOU GIVE THIS MOVIE THAT I THINK IS BAD A HIGH RATING!?
I heard the original cut was over 3 hours long, explains why I felt that certain parts were a little rushed (e.g. Ultron's construction).
A lot of people dont know Wanda and Pietro originally weren't Magneto's children. That was a retcon. So its fine that they weren't in this movie.
Lolol "talks a lot like Jarvis" when he actually is Jarvis' voice actor
Loved this movie, I even liked the romance thing. Other than that I don't really need to say anything else as what is said in this review reflects my own thoughts on the movie. 9/10 for me too.
One thing I like about the Avengers movies, that I think have been missing from the other marvel movies is a really recognizable and great Theme song. I just love it when that Avengers theme starts, always epic.
More hulk, less romance, flesh out Thor's actions regarding the Vision and a bit more ultron screen time would have made this perfect but great movie. 7.8/10
I actually liked the romance part, especially the lullaby. Not only makes it sense to use a vocal trigger to calm him down but it made for a beautiful scene as well.
And it wasn't completely out of left field either - there were quite a few hints in the first Avengers already.
Oh, and Vision 'even talks a bit like Jarvis'? I wonder where that comes from...
Ok, at about 3:50, when Joe starts describing scenes from the movie, I had to stop this cause I don't want all my time with this movie ruined because they get too excited and forget to say that there'll be spoilers ahead.
I'd give it 8.6 out of 10 most likely (haven't seen it YET), because the number 1 problem directors have these days is still not making movies unpredictable. Maybe when taking off one of the characters, but still make us excited with way more random twists
Nice review Joe! But damnit, I hate watching these things, you always make me want to watch it again (usually for the third time)
What I think is the reason for Ultrons joking personality is that he was made like 2 days ago, but he slowly becomes more serious towards the ending, (voice deepens, gets angrier)
regarding Vision, if I'm not mistaken, he's originally created Green and Yellow costume, with Red face. At some part in 1990's they changed it to All White Vision. But now he's back with the old colors.
When Cap slightly moved the hammer I think Thors heart skiped a beat
Actually, in the first film, it was Captain America and Thor. Though Iron Man was there, he didn't really do that much. Though the massive shock-wave that happened at the end of that, basically flattening the entire forest, from Thor's hammer(Mijolnr for you who care about that) hits Captain America's shield, that was re-used here, as well, but this time less OP(then again, it isn't a full force swing) and used to beat other people up.
The part where Vision took Thor's hammer was hilarious. :D Everyone was like wtf? Hax?
Yeah, they didn't really use Black Widow very well from a super-hero perspective. Sure they gave her things to do, but I think we want her to be more a part of the team, not just be kept busy with a love story and so on. Also, given her back story in the movies she seemed to me like the LAST character that would be falling in love.
I actually thought Banner and Romanov's scenes were a great addition. They weren't cheesy. I saw two people who feel completely incapable of having a relationship being brought together and are given a glimpse of a possible solace in each other. I mean, Banner goes through a lot of internal struggles throughout the film, as well as Romanov, so it was nice seeing the two who are forced to hide it being brought together. There's especially a great scene at (*spoilers*) Hawkeyes' home when they discuss not being able to have a life together even if they wanted to (Romanov saying she cannot have children really hit me hard). Just thought I'd give my two cents, because it's being hated on a lot and I didn't mind it.
A lot of Hulk/BW scenes seem out of place, because Whedon had an original idea that involved the Grey Hulk (a more "calm" version of Hulk), but then he and Kevin Feige decided it would be much better to make a whole Grey Hulk movie out of it.
Everything you just said I agree with. Such a freaking fantastic film. In fact you guys in your discussion made me realize even more how great this movie really is. Dang it, I want to go out and watch it again.
In 5 years, you're going to look back and ask what happened to Marvel. Age of Ultron is where the story problems begin for this "Universe" / storyline. Tony Stark or one of the original Avengers should have died, but they put in a Red Shirt like we were supposed to care when he died. This is the money grab movie. Just ask yourself, why didn't quicksilver kill hawk-eye in the first fight? Why didn't Ultron take over the Iron Man suit(s)? And why are the planets greatest heroes hanging out at a party? Oh yea, because they needed to put the hammer scene in the beginning so everyone would trust Vision later. By the time America gets to Supergirl, it will truly be a shark jump moment. 6.5 stars out of 7.
Finally saw the film this past weekend. While I loved the first movie I honestly didn't like this one.
In the first film there was a great amount of chemistry between the cast. This one seemed like it was really lacking. The cast just seemed to be going through the paces with no love for it. And most of the one liners just fell flat for me.
The romance between Widow and Banner felt so forced. I know everyone says it was alluded to in the first movie but I didn't see that at all. Widow was terrified of Hulk and now all of the sudden she's in love with him? It didn't make sense. And I just can't see the character, as she's been portrayed so far, falling in love. She's an emotionless killer.
The new team does nothing for me. With the original Avengers movie we had characters we were very familiar with coming together. It build our anticipation and was rewarding to see these heroes we had grown to love in one film. We have no connection with the new team. Minor characters from other films and completely new characters doesn't give the same feeling.
My personal favourites from the movie (hopefully no spoilers):
- "No surrender!"
- "Haha, you can't lift- wait, what?"
- 'Lullaby' by Tony Stark
- "Sorry."
- "I think that's yours." "Holy sh**" did he just do that?!"
- "... nobody would ever know..."
- "You had to ask."
- "Oh, for God's sake!"
One of the best ones that made the audience (me included) burst out laughing.
I hope Infinity War is a bit more serious than Age of Ultron. I still expect the well timed jokes from RDJ and the rest of the crew, but I'm hoping that Thanos is a dark, evil villain. It would be weird if he's cracking jokes as he kills the Avengers.
2:58 It's Thanos. THAN-OS! You say it how you spell it! It's not Thaneose. The creator of the character confirmed this!
FYI: First time I've ever kind of made an angry comment, but this has been building up forever. Sick of people mis-pronouncing these name. Makes me more sad than angry since they're supposed to be fans :/
I think one small thing why i love this movie is Hawkeye, he seems more interesting compared to the first one and he is alot like the comics.