This doctor kept her drugged up on meth to control her. Then he made her go cold turkey when he refused to refill her prescription. He knew what he was doing and did it purposeful. It's too bad all this didn't come out before this tragedy so he could lose his medical license and reputation and Jean Harris could get proper medical help.
😛 I love how kicking people out of school is a solution to a drug problem. Then the best part is she was basically addicted to speed herself! Man I can watch these Bill Curtis docs again and again and again
People make a sharp distinction between street drugs and prescribed drugs. Elvis Presley thought it was terrible people were taking unlawful drugs although he was on many prescription drugs.
Desoxyn = meth. She was going through meth withdrawal & dealing with a cruel cheating partner on top of clinical depression. Not an excuse but she didn't even know that the drug she was taking was addictive, only discovering it after a couple years behind bars. She acted a total fool on the stand & for a good while in jail, only calming down after a couple years. It's a shame what happened but she's not the cold-hearted killer she's made out to be. She was under the influence of drugs that she didn't choose to take with the knowledge that they WERE psychoactive drugs. The man she killed prescribed them to her. There was no internet back then to 'research' such things. Glad she got out before her life was over.
I sympathize with Harris because of her awful treatment by the Doc, but if you bring a freakin gun into someone's bedroom and you're mad as hell, something awful is gonna happen and it sure did. She should have used all of her smarts to stay quiet. A horror all around.
Doc was quietly poisoning her with addictive drugs, although she was too polite to object. So he got the quick demise he actually deserved in that sordid exploitative nasty way he treated Harris accidental or otherwise. His karma caught right the hell up to him. Totally unbalanced affair.
The work she did while jailed and afterwards is the highlight of her life. As ugly as it evolved something's happen for a reason. The doctor was not a good man. He didn't even write the majority of the book that brought him fame. Karma meets divine intervention.
THANK you for including this bit of documentary for your viewers! I always sympathized with Jean Harris, probably because she was such a tragic figure, listening to Tarnower and yet ignoring his systematic abuse and control of her.
By the time she had a relationship with the doctor, she was up in age. He was messing around with younger women and, she felt discarded . I think she snapped. Jealousy and emotional upheaval, have caused many deaths. Sad! She was an intelligent woman. RIP!
Wow! That Dr wasn't at all nice and turned her into a drug addict then threw her away. It's an interesting story of a life that was useful and productive even in prison. She's a brave lady.
Since she planned to commit suicide, why did she head to the doctor's house to get her prescription filled????? If she was going to commit suicide she didn't need a prescription. I think she thought the Doctor would fall apart and beg her to marry him if she showed up and acted like she was going to take her own life. When that didn't happen she decided to take his life. I find it very difficult to believe this death was an accident.
She went there to have a few last moments with the most important person in her life. She wanted to talk for a few minutes, hug and kiss, then go to the pond and kill herself.
Erratic behavior, the prolonged use of the speed, which her boyfriend had prescribed her,had her messed up in the head, she had run out of her meds when all of her crazy actions occurred
She had an inappropriate affect the whole time. Seeming unemotional at some points and then lashing out in anger even when she was cautioned otherwise. She just couldn't seem to control herself in those moments. Maybe it was the speed. Maybe it was this really abusive relationship with Dr. Tarnower. He was definitely a narcissist and abused both women terribly.
She really didn’t have to lie….she just told what happened but there is a class of people that feel like this kind of stuff is beneath them to tell just regular people what happened. She is this type of person. At least at that time she was
I have zero sympathy for Jeanie! How can any sane person feel sorry for anybody that 1) gets into and stays into a relationship with a person who says flat out that I will see other people besides you, 2) drives a hugely long distance with a loaded gun & lots of spare ammunition and claims the purpose is to commit suicide in the said person's garden and 3) shoots the said person in cold blood and claims it was an accident! I have no sympathy for people who make poor choices and expect to face no responsibility for their actions!
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned! He was not worth her losing her freedom. Other good men in this world worth loving. Stay away from players. They like variety. And I'm sure drug withdrawal also affected her highly emotional state. Jealousy is indeed the green-eyed monster! Run from that type of relationship as it will harm you!
The Doctor got her & kept her addicted, lying to her about the side effects of the drug he was pushing on her! Then used her as 1 of his mistresses for many years! It is a conundrum of complexity when the defendant has the right to dictate their defense, but the very reason they need that defense is due to an altered state of abuse & mind effecting control by drug addiction! At that point she became her own worst enemy! In major times of stress, that is the last thing you need to be doing is making life altering decisions, especially without or ignoring good counsel, but here we are! It would have been so easy to show how it all got to that point to the jury, the extreme distress, side effects of drug use & mental confusion she was suffering! Maybe a really good therapist could have changed her mindset in the situation, but she would have to be convinced that the drug he talked her into taking, & got her dependent on was indeed destroying her!
Mind you, that she was still taking the drug throughout her trial, i believe it was responsible for her horrible decision making process, she was attacking everyone, the judge, the jury, even her own defense attorney right to their faces, that doesn’t sound like someone with a sound mind at all.
She should take account for her actions. She took the meds. It doesn’t matter if the doctor prescribed them, SHE took them. He also told her he didn’t want the relationship with her. She couldn’t accept that. She killed a man, she deserved to be in jail.
Her partner Doctor “ High” was a asshole. He prescribed her with speed, probably to keep her weight down 🙄 .. He would have loved her deeply at one point but it’s the old story of “ trading the older woman in for a younger model” …. she should have walked away .. it’s all very sad really ….
Her defense attorney should have spent more time and effort discussing that she was in Desoxyn withdrawal and mentally altered at the time of the shooting. He did not do his job. That's pretty significant.
She should have left very early in the relation. Although intellectual she wasnt a good judge of character. She did put him on a pedestal while he was another disgusting entitled narcissit
I remember this case and I followed Ms. Harris' trial and most of her incarceration in the Bedford Hill C. F. This is one woman who didn't deserve to be imprisoned.
SO SAD ON EVERY LEVEL. A MOMENT OF ANGER CAN BE THE DEATH 💀 OR THE END OF INNOCENCE, AND FREEDOM , HOPE, FAITH. PLEASE LET THIS TRAGIC TALE MAKE YOU THINK TWICE. 🌞 💜 ⭐ 🎵
She found her life's work while she was jailed. Continuing when she was released to serve a needed purpose. Divine intervention meets karma. He wrote the diet but it was she that wrote the book.
I believe Lynne Tryforos Padilla died in 2020. Didn't take her long to get over the death of Herman Tarnower. You all do know she was still seeing her ex-husband (not because of the children), she was SEEING him. And other men too.
I was reading a Time Magazine from 1980 today and came across this story! Very interesting tale. I think the jury got it right. Accidental or not, bringing that gun up there was no accident, and a man died as a result. I think the prison sentence she served was just. Would have been very wrong if she walked at that point. That said, the clemency decision was also right. She did a lot of good behind bars, she was not in good health, and letting her go free was a good call. She spent the last twenty years of her life a free woman.
He is said to have been quite charming, a fabulous dancer, and could discuss many subjects (intelligence.) I think he love bombed her in the beginning, swept her off her feet. Plus he hooked her on the dope.
He had everything, she dropped her life like most women do for a marriage or this type relationship. He set her up for a fall, he was incredibly abusive and constantly tried to distroy her.
The house is cool from the outside, looks mid-century style. The inside decor definitely reflects that time period. Anyhow , how good can crime scene photos look ?
Nice doco, personality I think Hy was a narcissist, and really only saw himself, so sadly Jean paid a price, however she certainly didn't sqander her time in prison as she did so much for mothers and their children in prison and on release, bravo Jean RIP.
Tarnower was no loss ... Jean goes on to show that she could make a valuable contribution to society. Not the first or last time a woman has been found guilty because of her demeanor rather than the facts.
This doctor kept her drugged up on meth to control her. Then he made her go cold turkey when he refused to refill her prescription. He knew what he was doing and did it purposeful. It's too bad all this didn't come out before this tragedy so he could lose his medical license and reputation and Jean Harris could get proper medical help.
Olivia DeHavilland would have been the perfect choice to play Jean Harris.
Annette Bening did a wonderful jib playing her.
Olivia would've been awesome! They look similar.
@@toyatoro4682 ellen burstyn played her first in 1981
I thought she was Olivia De Havoland....🤣😂🤣
😛 I love how kicking people out of school is a solution to a drug problem. Then the best part is she was basically addicted to speed herself! Man I can watch these Bill Curtis docs again and again and again
People make a sharp distinction between street drugs and prescribed drugs. Elvis Presley thought it was terrible people were taking unlawful drugs although he was on many prescription drugs.
This is a fascinating case. I had never heard of it until now. Thank you.
Thank u so much for these Jean Harris videos.
I remember this. I'm old.
Her book "They always call us ladies" is good reading, very well written about her time in prison.
I read it too. It blew my mind
Desoxyn = meth. She was going through meth withdrawal & dealing with a cruel cheating partner on top of clinical depression. Not an excuse but she didn't even know that the drug she was taking was addictive, only discovering it after a couple years behind bars. She acted a total fool on the stand & for a good while in jail, only calming down after a couple years. It's a shame what happened but she's not the cold-hearted killer she's made out to be. She was under the influence of drugs that she didn't choose to take with the knowledge that they WERE psychoactive drugs. The man she killed prescribed them to her. There was no internet back then to 'research' such things. Glad she got out before her life was over.
Happened in my town, where 10 years later, I joined that PD
I sympathize with Harris because of her awful treatment by the Doc, but if you bring a freakin gun into someone's bedroom and you're mad as hell, something awful is gonna happen and it sure did. She should have used all of her smarts to stay quiet. A horror all around.
Some of the themes remind me of the Betty Broderick case.
Doc was quietly poisoning her with addictive drugs, although she was too polite to object. So he got the quick demise he actually deserved in that sordid exploitative nasty way he treated Harris accidental or otherwise. His karma caught right the hell up to him. Totally unbalanced affair.
The work she did while jailed and afterwards is the highlight of her life.
As ugly as it evolved something's happen for a reason. The doctor was not a good man. He didn't even write the majority of the book that brought him fame. Karma meets divine intervention.
It was the upcoming Betty Broadrick situation. Very abused woman....💣💥
THANK you for including this bit of documentary for your viewers! I always sympathized with Jean Harris, probably because she was such a tragic figure, listening to Tarnower and yet ignoring his systematic abuse and control of her.
Hulu has a Barbara Walters special on her case, Barbara was on her side and even asked for her pardon
Do you know the title of it? Looking for it on hulu.thanks
By the time she had a relationship with the doctor, she was up in age. He was messing around with younger women and, she felt discarded . I think she snapped. Jealousy and emotional upheaval, have caused many deaths. Sad! She was an intelligent woman. RIP!
I wish she'd kept the ring and moved on to find someone else
Yay! American Justice! Put that in the title and it will get more views! At least for me, I'll always click on anything with Bill Kurtis! 💚💚💚💚💚
I think she was out of her mind from the speed.
Wow! That Dr wasn't at all nice and turned her into a drug addict then threw her away. It's an interesting story of a life that was useful and productive even in prison. She's a brave lady.
He emotionally abused her for yesrs he was relentlessly cruel.
If you read the books & see the movies.
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Well, she was. May she rest in peace.
I BELIEVE JEAN HARRIS DID NOT KILL THE PROMISCUOUS DR. I HOPE SHE WUD BE PAROLED EARLY FOR GOOD BEHAVIOUR.
If she had a better lawyer and did not take the stand the might have gotten off.
Sad that people think a woman's "career" is "interrupted" by family. Family IS the career, or should be. We've lost our way.
I don’t for the life of me know what she ever saw in him
She expelled students for marijuana and she was taking speed….yeah that makes sense
Since she planned to commit suicide, why did she head to the doctor's house to get her prescription filled????? If she was going to commit suicide she didn't need a prescription. I think she thought the Doctor would fall apart and beg her to marry him if she showed up and acted like she was going to take her own life. When that didn't happen she decided to take his life. I find it very difficult to believe this death was an accident.
5 bullets, perhaps because she herself knew that she was that much of a lousy shot she'd likely *_miss her own head three or four times?_*
She went there to have a few last moments with the most important person in her life. She wanted to talk for a few minutes, hug and kiss, then go to the pond and kill herself.
Erratic behavior, the prolonged use of the speed, which her boyfriend had prescribed her,had her messed up in the head, she had run out of her meds when all of her crazy actions occurred
Wow! Is anyone else having "Betty Broderick" flashbacks!?! 😳😥
She had an inappropriate affect the whole time. Seeming unemotional at some points and then lashing out in anger even when she was cautioned otherwise. She just couldn't seem to control herself in those moments. Maybe it was the speed. Maybe it was this really abusive relationship with Dr. Tarnower. He was definitely a narcissist and abused both women terribly.
She was horrifyingly abused.
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i kind of like her! she was ahead of her time and too smart for these men
She really didn’t have to lie….she just told what happened but there is a class of people that feel like this kind of stuff is beneath them to tell just regular people what happened. She is this type of person. At least at that time she was
I have zero sympathy for Jeanie! How can any sane person feel sorry for anybody that 1) gets into and stays into a relationship with a person who says flat out that I will see other people besides you, 2) drives a hugely long distance with a loaded gun & lots of spare ammunition and claims the purpose is to commit suicide in the said person's garden and 3) shoots the said person in cold blood and claims it was an accident! I have no sympathy for people who make poor choices and expect to face no responsibility for their actions!
Bill Kurtis.... Simply the best.
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned! He was not worth her losing her freedom. Other good men in this world worth loving. Stay away from players. They like variety. And I'm sure drug withdrawal also affected her highly emotional state. Jealousy is indeed the green-eyed monster! Run from that type of relationship as it will harm you!
The Doctor got her & kept her addicted, lying to her about the side effects of the drug he was pushing on her! Then used her as 1 of his mistresses for many years! It is a conundrum of complexity when the defendant has the right to dictate their defense, but the very reason they need that defense is due to an altered state of abuse & mind effecting control by drug addiction! At that point she became her own worst enemy! In major times of stress, that is the last thing you need to be doing is making life altering decisions, especially without or ignoring good counsel, but here we are! It would have been so easy to show how it all got to that point to the jury, the extreme distress, side effects of drug use & mental confusion she was suffering! Maybe a really good therapist could have changed her mindset in the situation, but she would have to be convinced that the drug he talked her into taking, & got her dependent on was indeed destroying her!
Mind you, that she was still taking the drug throughout her trial, i believe it was responsible for her horrible decision making process, she was attacking everyone, the judge, the jury, even her own defense attorney right to their faces, that doesn’t sound like someone with a sound mind at all.
1:46 Seriously though that man looks just like Nosferatu.
She should take account for her actions. She took the meds. It doesn’t matter if the doctor prescribed them, SHE took them. He also told her he didn’t want the relationship with her. She couldn’t accept that. She killed a man, she deserved to be in jail.
Her partner Doctor “ High” was a asshole. He prescribed her with speed, probably to keep her weight down 🙄 .. He would have loved her deeply at one point but it’s the old story of “ trading the older woman in for a younger model” …. she should have walked away .. it’s all very sad really ….
Her defense attorney should have spent more time and effort discussing that she was in Desoxyn withdrawal and mentally altered at the time of the shooting. He did not do his job. That's pretty significant.
She should have left very early in the relation. Although intellectual she wasnt a good judge of character. She did put him on a pedestal while he was another disgusting entitled narcissit
Piper Kerman was also a Graduate of Smith's Women's College whose life was the inspiration for Orange Is The New Black.
I remember this case and I followed Ms. Harris' trial and most of her incarceration in the Bedford Hill C. F. This is one woman who didn't deserve to be imprisoned.
I don't condone murder but that doctor had it coming
She went up there to get her drugs as any desperate addict would. All he had to do was call her pharmacy & he wouldn't a got shot.
I read the book of the trial very interesting and followed his diet, is the best diet in my book ☺️
Very good doc. I saw Barbara Walters interview and read the book too.
So much like the Betty Broderick case… betrayal murder aggravated by taunting indifference. Everyone is guilty, and even the living are dead inside 🥲
I thought of Betty Broderick too.
SO SAD ON EVERY LEVEL. A MOMENT OF ANGER CAN BE THE DEATH 💀 OR THE END OF INNOCENCE, AND FREEDOM , HOPE, FAITH.
PLEASE LET THIS TRAGIC TALE MAKE YOU THINK TWICE. 🌞 💜 ⭐ 🎵
She found her life's work while she was jailed. Continuing when she was released to serve a needed purpose. Divine intervention meets karma.
He wrote the diet but it was she that wrote the book.
She edited it, that's all. The other co-author of the Tarnowers book was Samm Sinclair Baker. Nice try though 😉
It was a terrible accident High went to call help not 911 if she meant to kill him he would have dialed 911
She was taking (gulp) speed!😰😰
Annette Benning was a great Mrs Harris. Can't find the video anywhere.
Fabulous documentary … love Bill Curtis presenting …
Jean Harris did the crime and she paid the time. She was deeply hurt by Tarnauer rejections, not that it’s an excuse. She paid for this crime.
The doctor might had been this and that but it doesn't condone murder.
I believe Lynne Tryforos Padilla died in 2020. Didn't take her long to get over the death of Herman Tarnower. You all do know she was still seeing her ex-husband (not because of the children), she was SEEING him. And other men too.
Desoxon is methamphetamine
Had a dorm mate (on the floor) who was at this school at the same time of the headmistress.
The book was great. She was the original Betty Broderick
I was reading a Time Magazine from 1980 today and came across this story! Very interesting tale. I think the jury got it right. Accidental or not, bringing that gun up there was no accident, and a man died as a result. I think the prison sentence she served was just. Would have been very wrong if she walked at that point. That said, the clemency decision was also right. She did a lot of good behind bars, she was not in good health, and letting her go free was a good call. She spent the last twenty years of her life a free woman.
I may have missed it but whatever happened to her Sons? Did she not have Grandchildren? No man is worth your entire being. She needed to move on.
What did she say in that man
He is said to have been quite charming, a fabulous dancer, and could discuss many subjects (intelligence.) I think he love bombed her in the beginning, swept her off her feet. Plus he hooked her on the dope.
He was probably charming, charisma, great personality, a great lover, etc. but not much to look at.
He had everything, she dropped her life like most women do for a marriage or this type relationship.
He set her up for a fall, he was incredibly abusive and constantly tried to distroy her.
So she was basically in acute withdrawal from a drug he'd prescribed when she committed the murder. Very sad. ''High'' sounds horrible
What a tacky house even by the standards of the day.
The house is cool from the outside, looks mid-century style. The inside decor definitely reflects that time period. Anyhow , how good can crime scene photos look ?
Lovely to hear Bill Curtis.
Scarsdale Surprise!!!
I wonder what happened to the girlfriend?
Me too
A divorced woman, she remarried in 1984. Died in 2020
Engrossing case and person. And how i love to hear Bill Kurtis...
Expels 4 seniors for marijuana in their dorms, yet was taking speed for 10 years herself.
From 1-page to a whole book!
Nice doco, personality I think Hy was a narcissist, and really only saw himself, so sadly Jean paid a price, however she certainly didn't sqander her time in prison as she did so much for mothers and their children in prison and on release, bravo Jean RIP.
Annette bening was an interesting choice to play her.
His diet works!
He wrote the diet but "She" wrote the book
Now I know where Betty Broderick got the idea from..
Ellen Burstyn played Jean and did an OUTSTANDING job
Tarnower was no loss ... Jean goes on to show that she could make a valuable contribution to society.
Not the first or last time a woman has been found guilty because of her demeanor rather than the facts.
Bill Kurtis or Peter Thomas .. who came first?
The Madeira school backs on the Potomac River, across from the Old Angler’s Inn in Maryland.
Damn her attorney was such a good attorney and she would've probably gotten off if she was shut her mouth
This narrators voice is so nostalgic.. so familiar
He is a news presenter.
Love the 70s house designs!
That trial judge seemed a little judgmental to me.
Right away I could tell she seems a bit off.
It's probable it was accidental.