For a bottom bracket like that, the tricky part is holding the socket of the wrench in place while applying force. I recently learned a trick that helps. I got a long bolt that was the same size as the crank bolt, a washer for it, and then ran it through the bottom bracket tool/socket to keep the socket in place and keep it from slipping off. Then, instead of a socket wrench (since the bolt is now in the way), I used a large wrench on the socket to gain leverage. It worked crazy easy.
Thanks for this. My dad passed away in January and I just picked up his 1994 Gary Fisher Montare that had been stored away for the past 15 years and I’m going to do a NOS restoration on it. Great inspiration here!
Hey Oldshovel, here's a tip from me, if the bottom bracket is stuck, which often happens with these material pairings, simply take the tool and screw it tight on the axle so that you can then exert force with a ring spanner or an adjustable spanner, if necessary give the wrench a few light taps with a heavy hammer . (weight is the key because the flex that happens when you try to aply force takes a lot of the strenght away to remove the bottom bracket )but remember to loosen the tool up imediatly when it's moving ! Also as a preventive measure you can use teflon tape (please no teflon grease) one layer is enough, then a little grease on it and screw in the bottom bracket , this will protect it from rusting and prevents also from cracking noises! Have a good one mate !
I was about to suggest the same thing. It's always good to secure the tool to prevent slipping and damage to the teeth on both the remover and the part. On the drive side, it isn't even necessary to loosen--the entire assembly comes out as a unit. One negative: You wouldn't believe how difficult it is to locate an M8 x 1.0 bolt here in the US! Despite nearly everything being imported these days, metric hardware continues to be treated like exotic foreign food.
Great tips as always Thomas. I really like the teflon tape one, I have seen it done and keep wanting to try it but keep forgetting to pull out the tape from my non-bike-tool tool box when I am in the moment... As to the BB, on this build, after seeing that the BB just had a rubber seal protecting the bearings I though it may be interesting to see if cleaning out the bearings as I did and then packing in the grease could improve the BB. Time will tell if it was a good solution or not. :)
For securing your bottom bracket tool use "bottom bracket socket holder". Veru useful tool for stubborn bottom bracket cups. After securing the tool won't slip from the splines. Or make one by yourself. It's a M8x1,00mm (fine threaded) bolt which screws into your bottom bracket spindle but it's not verry common in long versions. If you won't be able to find a long bolt then use shorter bottom bracket tool without a socket interface just open wrench hex interface. Third option is to use an old 8mm (5/16'') front wheel solid axle. Drilled ones for skewers, QR will be too thick, 9mm.
I use M8 Bolt with a washer and then a pipe wrench on the bb tool. that and a cheater bar being careful not to scratch the frame. I think that the biggest problem with the bb tool is that it keeps slipping off.
Thanks you Oldshovel for your vids. It's a delight to start my day with a cofee and a fresh build from your workshop ! I wanted to share with everyone here a tip when you are stuck with an incredibly seized bottom bracket like this one : lately on an old Diamondback Ascent, i had this issue. Tried everything,m with friends, even to warm the steel like you did. Finaly, one told me to go to my local car repair, to try with an impact wrench. And it was so easily ! I spent hours to try unseize it, but its was done in 3 minutes with the impact wrench ! Bye everyone, and keep giving these old things a new life ;)
Agreed. 8 speed Shimano LX is a joy to work with. Shifts great and works properly with 3 chainrings. 9x3 requires more babysitting and I just never get it quite as dialed in as I'd like.
I had an old Kona Cinder Cone with a Project 2 rigid fork that was set up with just about everything the way yours is. Oury grips are my old school favorites. It had LX/XT 8 speed but had the Richey Whale Tail brakes. Otherwise just about the same right down to the WTB tires. That bike was so smooth on single track. I miss that bike. Thanks for the memories 🙂
To get the rotten bottom bracket loose you better should tighten the tool into a bench vise. Then you put the frame with the bottom bracket on it, fix it with a bar clamp and try to turn the whole frame. So you have a way biger lever compared to a ratch. If this doesn't work you also can weld a pole on the bottom bracket (if it's made of steel) to use this pole as a lever. One of these ways will work for sure.
Ah beat me to it! I always have trouble with removing bottom brackets (I live near the ocean) from used bikes I buy and the tool in the bench vise is my 100% go to since I hurt my shoulder at work.
It’s a threaded bottom bracket. That simple. Only attitude required, is to always expect them to be a complete pain in the ass! After successful removal, have a 24ounce can of strong malt liquor, to salute the victory!
Marvelous! I love that era of Kona steelies! I recently rebuilt a Hahanna for my eldest daughter (8yr old) Hannah. I don't know if it'll help, but sometimes I secure the BB tool to the spindle with a bolt to stop "cam-out"nd then get the heat on it and a really long spanner on the flat edges of the BB tool. Hope you are all happy and healthy! :)
Love the rebuilds i'm in the process of ungrading my 1998 gary fisher marlin i had in my garage for years and decided to fix at one point i was gonna get rid of it till you inspire me to give old things a new life. thanks man.
I just picked up a Vintage Kona Frame myself. Your video gave me an idea on the direction of the build. Again love the video. Keep up the good work, can’t wait for the next video
Bottom brackets can be a bear Put a quick release skewer thru the spindle and the bb socket. Use a large adjustable wrench and a pipe for added leverage. The QR skewer keeps the bb cup socket from slipping usually works for me
I didn’t think a bottom bracket spindle was hallow all the way through. I’ve always used an old axel from a bike with the same diameter and threads and threaded it in. Then I slipped the tool over the axel followed by a nut to tighten down behind it.
Mine is hollow but that's where the 1/2" breaker bar inserts. I tried bolting it on one and it broke my adjustable spanner. It was huge, 500mm long 2kg spanner too. Just G clamp the breaker and tool onto the bb
Love the video. I had a 1997 Kona Hahanna. Crashed it in the Lake District in 1999 (dry stone wall near Grasmere). Three days in hospital and a snapped chainstay. Happy days. 🏥😁
Going to SLC this weekend. Going to stop by the SLC Bike Collective. If you're around, you should go to Jordan Park and watch some bike polo! Players from all over North America will be there!
The smell of excessive WD40 always creates a sense of failure in me. When I get that feeling I always pull out the heavy tools in anger. I’ve sent numerous cranks, bottom brackets and even frames to heaven that way. You knew when to leave well enough alone.
I use a bolt that’s long enough to stick through the bb socket tool with washers holding the socket on. Snug the bolt into the spindle and then it won’t slip off as you break loose the bb.
I love these! The patience it takes to film every detail. Wish I had the time and workshop to do these builds. It's highly therapeutic to watch, however the upside-down headset bothers me a little...
I’m sure the upside-down headset will function just fine but it was like when the teacher misses a spot when erasing the board. It’s all I could focus on. Still another great video.
Hi, I’ve seen this done a few times now, if you buy a used Chris King headset you install in upside down. The cups and bearings are the same either way so it doesn’t matter. I’ve got one on the shelf now and it’s going in upside down when I get a chance. 👍🏻.
Love it..in my opinion 8 speed Shimano MTB or Campy Road gave the best shifting and most user friendly performance. Lasts forever too. Latest mechanical groupset’s with 11 or 12 speed hard to keep working well after a year or two of use and wear. Also would say that the bottom bracket that you cleaned and regreased will spin more freely and outlast by far all of the modern ‘press fit’ offerings.!!!
Great video, a good trick to remove frozen BB is to apply heat and then quickly shocked with cold (like ice) and then repeat several time, that will work, oh by the way, I think your Chris King headset cups are backwards :)
very nice. I am building one, same year, same bike but better luck with the bottom bracket. I want to convert it to gravel bike. Same as you, I collect parts and when I will have everything, I will finaly put it together.
Great trail bike. I have a similar vintage Cannondale H300 with a Surly Crosscheck fork at the powder coater's shop right now. Gonna make a killer city bike out of it.
Nice trails for sure and the valley at beginning shot is stunning. If you were riding some of that country in the Canadian West at that time of year you might have to be calling hey bear around those corners.
You can clamp the bb tool in a vice and then use the frame as a massive lever to get it unstuck. The weight of the frame on top of the tool also prevents the splines from camming out.
I had a similar situation with my bottom bracket, but I beat it! I used the crank bolt through the socket to hold the socket to the cartridge (it kept slipping off). Then I attached a ratchet strap to the open ended wrench on the outside of the socket and cranked until it moved. Where I do have a question is where do you source your wheel cones? I went through 3 used wheelsets and all have terribly pitted cones. Waiting over a month for some replacements...
Great video and very sympathetic to the original build. Love that patina on the paint and decals. I have 2 Hahhanas, this is probably your fault!🤣 The first one is a mountain bike with a few modern bits and the second is half built as a gravel bike. I love the way they cable up, just classic. A tip for those stubborn bottom brackets is using an electric or air powered impact gun. It was the only thing that shifted the stubborn bottom bracket on mine. 👍
Very cool! I have the same bike and I ran into the same problem with the bottom bracket. I ended up lying it on an old rug on the floor so I could get more pressure on the bottom bracket tool. I heated the area up with a hair dryer. My wife held the frame while I turned the tool. It came out after a couple tries. Frustrating!
I think the trend in the late 90s was still bare aluminium for the stem and handlebars. The black stems, bars and seat posts came in the 00s, along with bottom bracket cassettes and aluminium frames.
That bottom bracket bit at the start hit close to home 🤣 my parents used to have a matching set of 1999 Trek 800 Sport, and i did the UN-55 swap on both of them, i swear those cups are rust welded onto these frames at this point, great vid as always!
Kona in that era had a tire combo called scratch and sniff I had them in a gum colour which I found wore better than the black ones miss those great tires
Wow, I've never seen that in one of your videos: the bottom bracket won't come out? Okay, then it just stays in... I've also experienced something like that, that a bottom bracket was secured with a screw adhesive. In the end I drilled out the bearing shells... I think the sustainability approach in your videos is great, you should pay attention to the bicycle industry, which presents us with a new "superbike" every season and constantly new standards (27.5 inch and 29 inch) introduces so that we keep buying new bikes, counteracting something...
I scored a 1997 KONA Caldera with the judy T2. It has a burst chainstay with an almost 2 inch split in the steel from ice swelling. Got any tips on how to approach this fix ? Normally i would retire the frame but the 97 Caldera is quite a rare frame as they were custom frame builds made to order.
Great build! I work on old rusty vehicles here in WV. I always have an old jack handle that fits nicely on a 1/2" ratchet around for breaking stuff loose. Wonder if some controlled leverage would help with those rusty bbs
Nice LX group set. Just how long did it take to find all those pieces? I know lots of people have commented re bb removal. I persevered with some of mine that were stuck and eventually they came out. I know at some point the stuck bb will get to you and you will take it out - in your own time. No rush. Love the trails you have in Utah.
This may have already been said. But you could have held the BB tool in a big vice secured to a heavy workbench. Then placed the frame with BB on top of the tool and rotated the frame. It gives far greater leverage than rotating the tool.
My first full on Mountain Bike, it was a brilliant ride and saw me progress onto a Lava Dome and then a Cinder Cone over the next few years. This is literally tugging at my heart strings! 😁
i read one of your comments somewhere where you say the Spray.Bike clear coat takes two weeks to dry. the web site suggest 7 days before buidling the bike. i live in Hawaii and its taking forever to dry. maybe its the humidty we have here. im putting in the sun to help dry it. do you have any suggestions ?
I recently bought a 97 Voodoo Erzulie. It has the narrow titec enduro bars and a titec 130mm stem (frame is 18). I am looking at getting wide bars (velo orange seine - 780mm wide, 35 degree sweep, 40mm rise). What size stem do you all recommend I should go down to now? This is my first project bike and am looking for thoughts!
Being picky but aren’t the cups on the headset upside down? Would drive me mad that. Especially on a quality king headset. I had a hahanna my first real mountain bike. 1993 it came with lots of Joe Murray branded parts and low end shimano group set.
3:47 definitely a shimano bb with plastic cup. The DS always seizes. You must put the frame on carpet, put a G clamp over the breakerbar and bb, then hold the headset area while pulling a 600mm breaker towards the headset. Never fails. That bb will be clunky, 100%
Nice job but should have v brakes to be a 97 Kona 👍🏻plus upside down headset cups are kind of triggering 🙃 I'm not a fan of cantilevers but maybe your integrated brake levers-shifters are canti leverage curve? Cheers 👍🏻
I'm going the same route with a '91 Trek 970. My son keeps saying Dad bikes have come a long way, you need suspension, 29 inch tires, dropper seat posts, etc., etc. I like simple. I'm going to have a decal made for my frame that says: "If isn't there, then it costs nothing, weighs nothing and is 100% reliable."
Great video! I love the old Kona's. I'm rebuilding a '94 Lavadome at the moment and if anyone knows where I can get some threadless P2 forks from I'd love to know!!!!
Great video, as always. I need a new shaver anyway so I ordered one at Harry’s . Unfortunately your link doesn’t work in Germany, so let them know, that you acquired me as a customer 😉
For a bottom bracket like that, the tricky part is holding the socket of the wrench in place while applying force. I recently learned a trick that helps. I got a long bolt that was the same size as the crank bolt, a washer for it, and then ran it through the bottom bracket tool/socket to keep the socket in place and keep it from slipping off. Then, instead of a socket wrench (since the bolt is now in the way), I used a large wrench on the socket to gain leverage. It worked crazy easy.
Thanks for this. My dad passed away in January and I just picked up his 1994 Gary Fisher Montare that had been stored away for the past 15 years and I’m going to do a NOS restoration on it. Great inspiration here!
+1 for putting the bottom bracket tool in your bench vice and using the frame itself for leverage.
Hey Oldshovel, here's a tip from me, if the bottom bracket is stuck, which often happens with these material pairings, simply take the tool and screw it tight on the axle so that you can then exert force with a ring spanner or an adjustable spanner, if necessary give the wrench a few light taps with a heavy hammer . (weight is the key because the flex that happens when you try to aply force takes a lot of the strenght away to remove the bottom bracket )but remember to loosen the tool up imediatly when it's moving ! Also as a preventive measure you can use teflon tape (please no teflon grease) one layer is enough, then a little grease on it and screw in the bottom bracket , this will protect it from rusting and prevents also from cracking noises! Have a good one mate !
I was about to suggest the same thing. It's always good to secure the tool to prevent slipping and damage to the teeth on both the remover and the part. On the drive side, it isn't even necessary to loosen--the entire assembly comes out as a unit. One negative: You wouldn't believe how difficult it is to locate an M8 x 1.0 bolt here in the US! Despite nearly everything being imported these days, metric hardware continues to be treated like exotic foreign food.
Great tips as always Thomas. I really like the teflon tape one, I have seen it done and keep wanting to try it but keep forgetting to pull out the tape from my non-bike-tool tool box when I am in the moment... As to the BB, on this build, after seeing that the BB just had a rubber seal protecting the bearings I though it may be interesting to see if cleaning out the bearings as I did and then packing in the grease could improve the BB. Time will tell if it was a good solution or not. :)
@@bicycleandrccars568 comments like yours are not necessary.
@@bicycleandrccars568 pretty sure this bike is for his personal collection
@@keithschrack I somehow had a M8 x 1.0 bolt in my hardware stash and it is now an indispensable tool for removing stuck BB cups.
Great video! I own this exact bike but with RST fork, now my 13 year old son captured it and I got a "new" Cannondale F400 94. Love these 90s bikes.
Watched so many of your videos but for some reason this bike is my favourite.
I just got a 96/97 kona lavadome...rigid fork! it's being built now so this video was exciting. thank you!!!!!
Functionally it doesn't matter, but when you have a Chris King headset it NEEDS to be the right way up! HAHA. Great video as always.
It’s a “thing” with retro builds to flip the headset. It was done on purpose.
@@Oldmtbdad ah really? Wasn't aware of that. I might do the "thing" in my next build then 😀
@@Oldmtbdad Ive read that somewhere too. Curious to know how that came about?
My ocd couldnt handle it.
For securing your bottom bracket tool use "bottom bracket socket holder". Veru useful tool for stubborn bottom bracket cups. After securing the tool won't slip from the splines. Or make one by yourself. It's a M8x1,00mm (fine threaded) bolt which screws into your bottom bracket spindle but it's not verry common in long versions. If you won't be able to find a long bolt then use shorter bottom bracket tool without a socket interface just open wrench hex interface. Third option is to use an old 8mm (5/16'') front wheel solid axle. Drilled ones for skewers, QR will be too thick, 9mm.
I use M8 Bolt with a washer and then a pipe wrench on the bb tool. that and a cheater bar being careful not to scratch the frame. I think that the biggest problem with the bb tool is that it keeps slipping off.
This is the best way. Once it's securely on and holding in place, you can get a big ass lever and tap it loose with a mallet.
Thanks you Oldshovel for your vids. It's a delight to start my day with a cofee and a fresh build from your workshop !
I wanted to share with everyone here a tip when you are stuck with an incredibly seized bottom bracket like this one : lately on an old Diamondback Ascent, i had this issue. Tried everything,m with friends, even to warm the steel like you did. Finaly, one told me to go to my local car repair, to try with an impact wrench. And it was so easily ! I spent hours to try unseize it, but its was done in 3 minutes with the impact wrench !
Bye everyone, and keep giving these old things a new life ;)
Agreed. 8 speed Shimano LX is a joy to work with. Shifts great and works properly with 3 chainrings. 9x3 requires more babysitting and I just never get it quite as dialed in as I'd like.
I had an old Kona Cinder Cone with a Project 2 rigid fork that was set up with just about everything the way yours is. Oury grips are my old school favorites. It had LX/XT 8 speed but had the Richey Whale Tail brakes. Otherwise just about the same right down to the WTB tires. That bike was so smooth on single track. I miss that bike. Thanks for the memories 🙂
Had the same BB problem. Had to hammer the spindle out and cut the cup. Chased the threads and it was good to go.
To get the rotten bottom bracket loose you better should tighten the tool into a bench vise. Then you put the frame with the bottom bracket on it, fix it with a bar clamp and try to turn the whole frame. So you have a way biger lever compared to a ratch.
If this doesn't work you also can weld a pole on the bottom bracket (if it's made of steel) to use this pole as a lever.
One of these ways will work for sure.
Ah beat me to it! I always have trouble with removing bottom brackets (I live near the ocean) from used bikes I buy and the tool in the bench vise is my 100% go to since I hurt my shoulder at work.
It’s a threaded bottom bracket. That simple. Only attitude required, is to always expect them to be a complete pain in the ass! After successful removal, have a 24ounce can of strong malt liquor, to salute the victory!
Marvelous! I love that era of Kona steelies! I recently rebuilt a Hahanna for my eldest daughter (8yr old) Hannah. I don't know if it'll help, but sometimes I secure the BB tool to the spindle with a bolt to stop "cam-out"nd then get the heat on it and a really long spanner on the flat edges of the BB tool. Hope you are all happy and healthy! :)
Love the rebuilds i'm in the process of ungrading my 1998 gary fisher marlin i had in my garage for years and decided to fix at one point i was gonna get rid of it till you inspire me to give old things a new life. thanks man.
Nice! Just got done rebuilding my 2000 Kona Hahanna. It's blue/white. I swapped out the RST suspension fork for a Soma rigid fork. I'm loving it now.
I just picked up a Vintage Kona Frame myself. Your video gave me an idea on the direction of the build. Again love the video. Keep up the good work, can’t wait for the next video
Old Konas are bringing. Huge money!
People love them.
Konas are Ultra Kool
My brother had this exact bike from new, in fact he still has it!! Kona steel bikes from the late 90s were the best
Bottom brackets can be a bear
Put a quick release skewer thru the spindle and the bb socket. Use a large adjustable wrench and a pipe for added leverage. The QR skewer keeps the bb cup socket from slipping usually works for me
I didn’t think a bottom bracket spindle was hallow all the way through. I’ve always used an old axel from a bike with the same diameter and threads and threaded it in. Then I slipped the tool over the axel followed by a nut to tighten down behind it.
Mine is hollow but that's where the 1/2" breaker bar inserts.
I tried bolting it on one and it broke my adjustable spanner. It was huge, 500mm long 2kg spanner too.
Just G clamp the breaker and tool onto the bb
Love the video. I had a 1997 Kona Hahanna. Crashed it in the Lake District in 1999 (dry stone wall near Grasmere). Three days in hospital and a snapped chainstay. Happy days. 🏥😁
What a solid old bike and a beauty of a build.
Going to SLC this weekend. Going to stop by the SLC Bike Collective. If you're around, you should go to Jordan Park and watch some bike polo! Players from all over North America will be there!
The smell of excessive WD40 always creates a sense of failure in me. When I get that feeling I always pull out the heavy tools in anger. I’ve sent numerous cranks, bottom brackets and even frames to heaven that way. You knew when to leave well enough alone.
I use a bolt that’s long enough to stick through the bb socket tool with washers holding the socket on. Snug the bolt into the spindle and then it won’t slip off as you break loose the bb.
I love the 97' decals, they have the most tiki vibe to them with the font and the colors :)
I love these! The patience it takes to film every detail. Wish I had the time and workshop to do these builds. It's highly therapeutic to watch, however the upside-down headset bothers me a little...
I’m sure the upside-down headset will function just fine but it was like when the teacher misses a spot when erasing the board. It’s all I could focus on. Still another great video.
Hi, I’ve seen this done a few times now, if you buy a used Chris King headset you install in upside down. The cups and bearings are the same either way so it doesn’t matter. I’ve got one on the shelf now and it’s going in upside down when I get a chance. 👍🏻.
@@57northphoto32 that makes sense. I learned something new.
@@jeremyabbott2829 it’s a thing ppl do intentionally with King headsets for fun
I was definitely freaked out by it. Intentional?
Love it..in my opinion 8 speed Shimano MTB or Campy Road gave the best shifting and most user friendly performance. Lasts forever too. Latest mechanical groupset’s with 11 or 12 speed hard to keep working well after a year or two of use and wear. Also would say that the bottom bracket that you cleaned and regreased will spin more freely and outlast by far all of the modern ‘press fit’ offerings.!!!
I picked up a 1994 Kona Hahanna locally in blue and I love it.
I just got the same bike! How are you liking it?
I Enjoy it I plan to go 1X9 gearing and a Kenda k rad tire for the back tire got one for the front.
Awesome frames these Hahanna's ... Had 2... Still use the project 2 forks on another steel build. Timeless geometry - great video 👍🏼
looks great. I'm a fan of the 8 speed too.
Great video, a good trick to remove frozen BB is to apply heat and then quickly shocked with cold (like ice) and then repeat several time, that will work, oh by the way, I think your Chris King headset cups are backwards :)
alot of heat and a (breaker bar) works too!
Great looking retro patina bike .Rob .awesome video
Are the headset cups upside down for some reason ?
8:30 "King" upside down?
Yeah I had the same question.
very nice. I am building one, same year, same bike but better luck with the bottom bracket.
I want to convert it to gravel bike.
Same as you, I collect parts and when I will have everything, I will finaly put it together.
Wicked sweet! I like the splash of RaceFace too. Fitting.
Great trail bike. I have a similar vintage Cannondale H300 with a Surly Crosscheck fork at the powder coater's shop right now. Gonna make a killer city bike out of it.
Nice trails for sure and the valley at beginning shot is stunning. If you were riding some of that country in the Canadian West at that time of year you might have to be calling hey bear around those corners.
Did you install the headset-bearings up-side down? ..that trigges me somehow. but nice built anyway.
I was thinking the exact same thing lol
You can clamp the bb tool in a vice and then use the frame as a massive lever to get it unstuck. The weight of the frame on top of the tool also prevents the splines from camming out.
Beautiful work, congratulations.
That bottom bracket was a nightmare! Apart from that, that Kona looks beautiful! Nice video as always! Big hug!
l have same lx set and l have to say these brake arms works perfectly with v brake br m739 (deore xt ) set
I had a similar situation with my bottom bracket, but I beat it! I used the crank bolt through the socket to hold the socket to the cartridge (it kept slipping off). Then I attached a ratchet strap to the open ended wrench on the outside of the socket and cranked until it moved.
Where I do have a question is where do you source your wheel cones? I went through 3 used wheelsets and all have terribly pitted cones. Waiting over a month for some replacements...
So what do you do with all these bikes you build?
Do you have a collection or do you sell them?
And what bikes are your personal rides?
Thanks for uploading your hard work.
Great video and very sympathetic to the original build. Love that patina on the paint and decals. I have 2 Hahhanas, this is probably your fault!🤣 The first one is a mountain bike with a few modern bits and the second is half built as a gravel bike. I love the way they cable up, just classic. A tip for those stubborn bottom brackets is using an electric or air powered impact gun. It was the only thing that shifted the stubborn bottom bracket on mine. 👍
Sometimes just purge, clean, and pack the bearings is good enough for task and get the bike rolling. Nice restore enough to ride story.
another cool rebuild brother , thanks again!
It's likely not recommended, but one of the shops I go to uses an impact driver to remove those pesky bottom brackets. Great job on the build!
Seems the best way to extract a stuck bb.
i love it....planning to paint this one? it would be awesome to see it with gravel bars
I own a Scott Comp Racing I bought in 1994. And yesterday I just bought a Kona hahanna from 1994. I wanted to get it in 1994 but I fell for the Sco
Great morning coffee and an Old Shovel video. Bike is great. And those trails are GORGEOUS. Now, about that mug gettin’ a shave…
love this old kona build, keep up the good work
One of my LBS will use an electric impact with a socket to help bust stubborn BB's after soaking them with Liquid Wrench.
Very cool! I have the same bike and I ran into the same problem with the bottom bracket. I ended up lying it on an old rug on the floor so I could get more pressure on the bottom bracket tool. I heated the area up with a hair dryer. My wife held the frame while I turned the tool. It came out after a couple tries. Frustrating!
I think the trend in the late 90s was still bare aluminium for the stem and handlebars. The black stems, bars and seat posts came in the 00s, along with bottom bracket cassettes and aluminium frames.
Great video, I worked on this exact drivetrain today. It is beautiful. Simple,. And very robust. My only question is why the upside down headset?
Apparently this is a 'thing' when reusing a King headset, intentionally upside down.
Great build. Im looking for my next project, and a kona would be nice. Also have my eyes on a rocky mountain oxygen race.
That bottom bracket bit at the start hit close to home 🤣 my parents used to have a matching set of 1999 Trek 800 Sport, and i did the UN-55 swap on both of them, i swear those cups are rust welded onto these frames at this point, great vid as always!
Great build old shovel love the parts combination you picked 😎
i ended up using an impact driver to get my BB out, and that only JUST worked.
Kona in that era had a tire combo called scratch and sniff I had them in a gum colour which I found wore better than the black ones miss those great tires
Wow, I've never seen that in one of your videos: the bottom bracket won't come out? Okay, then it just stays in... I've also experienced something like that, that a bottom bracket was secured with a screw adhesive. In the end I drilled out the bearing shells... I think the sustainability approach in your videos is great, you should pay attention to the bicycle industry, which presents us with a new "superbike" every season and constantly new standards (27.5 inch and 29 inch) introduces so that we keep buying new bikes, counteracting something...
This was very satisfying to watch 😊 Really enjoy your bike rebuilds, I've learned quite a bit, much appreciated 😁✌️
I scored a 1997 KONA Caldera with the judy T2. It has a burst chainstay with an almost 2 inch split in the steel from ice swelling. Got any tips on how to approach this fix ? Normally i would retire the frame but the 97 Caldera is quite a rare frame as they were custom frame builds made to order.
Great build! I work on old rusty vehicles here in WV. I always have an old jack handle that fits nicely on a 1/2" ratchet around for breaking stuff loose. Wonder if some controlled leverage would help with those rusty bbs
Hi, you can try the UNIRO bb tool, it will make removing the cartridge so easy and safe.
What is the name of the piece you used as a guide for the front brake cable where the power goes?
Nice LX group set. Just how long did it take to find all those pieces? I know lots of people have commented re bb removal. I persevered with some of mine that were stuck and eventually they came out. I know at some point the stuck bb will get to you and you will take it out - in your own time. No rush. Love the trails you have in Utah.
What a beautiful bike.
Gotta love those 90s konas
This may have already been said. But you could have held the BB tool in a big vice secured to a heavy workbench. Then placed the frame with BB on top of the tool and rotated the frame. It gives far greater leverage than rotating the tool.
My first full on Mountain Bike, it was a brilliant ride and saw me progress onto a Lava Dome and then a Cinder Cone over the next few years.
This is literally tugging at my heart strings! 😁
Very inspiring. Great job. Did you change the wheels or did you keep the original ones ?
That’s a killer bike!!!
i read one of your comments somewhere where you say the Spray.Bike clear coat takes two weeks to dry. the web site suggest 7 days before buidling the bike. i live in Hawaii and its taking forever to dry. maybe its the humidty we have here. im putting in the sun to help dry it. do you have any suggestions ?
Again a great build.
I had this boke back then. Love it. Got stolen 😢
I think the Cris King headset cups are inverted? I just noticed though…
I wish the Salt Lake Bicycle Collective shop was nearby 😍
A bit of commentary on what you're doing, and the tools and materials you're using, wouldn't go amiss.
Are the Chris King head set cups upside down?
Well THATs a first - I’ve never seen a bicycle stand used to change a razor head! 😂
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I recently bought a 97 Voodoo Erzulie. It has the narrow titec enduro bars and a titec 130mm stem (frame is 18).
I am looking at getting wide bars (velo orange seine - 780mm wide, 35 degree sweep, 40mm rise).
What size stem do you all recommend I should go down to now? This is my first project bike and am looking for thoughts!
Nice keeping the paintwork 👍🏼
Being picky but aren’t the cups on the headset upside down? Would drive me mad that. Especially on a quality king headset.
I had a hahanna my first real mountain bike. 1993 it came with lots of Joe Murray branded parts and low end shimano group set.
3:47 definitely a shimano bb with plastic cup. The DS always seizes.
You must put the frame on carpet, put a G clamp over the breakerbar and bb, then hold the headset area while pulling a 600mm breaker towards the headset.
Never fails.
That bb will be clunky, 100%
Any reason for the Headset cups to be reversed? its hurting my OCD....king upside down...
Nice job but should have v brakes to be a 97 Kona 👍🏻plus upside down headset cups are kind of triggering 🙃 I'm not a fan of cantilevers but maybe your integrated brake levers-shifters are canti leverage curve? Cheers 👍🏻
Fantastic work as always 😁👍
Love those steel hardtails!
P.S. It really needs short, flat bars. 😉
How did you make this threadless?
I thought the Kona's are threaded...???;
I'm going the same route with a '91 Trek 970. My son keeps saying Dad bikes have come a long way, you need suspension, 29 inch tires, dropper seat posts, etc., etc. I like simple. I'm going to have a decal made for my frame that says: "If isn't there, then it costs nothing, weighs nothing and is 100% reliable."
Great video! I love the old Kona's. I'm rebuilding a '94 Lavadome at the moment and if anyone knows where I can get some threadless P2 forks from I'd love to know!!!!
Awesome work as per usual! I wanted to ask you what is your preference in terms of size and ratio when dealing with 1x bike conversions? Thanks
I applaud you for leaving that rustucally harming original paint, also CK headset was put in reversed😮
Installing a Chris King Headset Upside down & Coins In Your Grips
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@@oldshovel that is a nice meme to do on a bike and makes a lot of sense, it would be cool for it to become a trend
Great video, as always. I need a new shaver anyway so I ordered one at Harry’s . Unfortunately your link doesn’t work in Germany, so let them know, that you acquired me as a customer 😉
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