Lol see this is awesome ... an actual Games athlete commenting on the vid lol love to see it. What up Fikowski !! Just a fan hope to see you out there this yr at the games
Former collegiate rower here, currently coaching. 20+ km training sessions (around half a marathon) are pretty standard routine endurance sessions if you row somewhat seriously. At the higher levels these endurance sessions can become 30+ km, although full marathons are a bit on the long side. Weekly milage for Olympic rowers is probably 200+ km weekly, maybe up to 300 km, often training multiple times per day. It should be noted that these very long sessions tend to be at a lower intensity with the purpose of building aerobic base fitness and the more intensive sessions tend to be a lot shorter, as rowers tend to train specifically for the 2000m.
Was just about to say this. Hour of power, 90 minute pieces in the winter time are standard and you just get used to it. Make sure you got a legit playlist and dial in.
Swimmer here. Long Course 30x400 @5:20 350 Free/50 Fly breathing 1/1 for 25, last 5 breathing 2/1 15 x100 Fly @ 1:40 extra minute befoe the last one, dive off the side (didnt have blocks) 1:02 200 Easy 13 700m Did another ~ 6000m at afternoon practice. This was durning our spring camp at Mission Viejo in 1995. I swam well over 100km that week.
@@b-sideplank good question bro. If you’re using your core then you don’t really feel your back much. Mat’s form sucks. I was also a collegiate/professional rower and we also rowed around 200k a week. No SI joint issues at all.
My mate and I once did a marathon row. We prepped for several months. Had to get up multiple times to let the blood back into our butts and to slam back some gummy snakes. I couldn’t unflex my ring finger for 2 days after. It was brutal. The fact they did it just as an event in the games is bananas.
When he said marathon I was like holy crap... running with base blasting for 3 hours sucks. Then the clip of him rowing popped up and said 26.2 miles. I dropped my phone in fear and agony. I've rowed 3,000 meters and had to crawl half alive to my car. Dude HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?!?!?!? LEVELS
The workout itself is nuts. But them doing this at max intensity ( for that distance) and then continuing into the following workouts half a day later is bonkers
Really nice and easy conversation. I love how this almost ended up like a full-blown podcast episode. Great content as always, Matt's got stories for days!!
As a rower it’s pretty normal to hit 2 hours on the erg, no one really uses tanks anymore, but we sometimes have different machines called rp3, or put the concept 2 on things we call sliders. Guys will pull marathons as second workouts in a day.
Let me add some clarification here….I’ve done a 1/2 marathon on a rower. I’m 5 ft 9 200lbs. Similar build to Mat. It was brutal. The difference sounds CRAZY. Marathon is a different level.
Same, did half marathon on the rower the same year they did it at the games was in college and in the best shape of my life at the time, it'd by far the hardest workout I've ever done I couldn't imagine doing a full marathon.
As someone that does ultramarathons, I gave this “workout” a go about a 3 weeks ago when I was dealin with a minor knee injury…took me just over 3 hours, ~42k meters, it sucked…but more mental than anything. Would def recommend doing it at least(most) once!
I have done the 46027.24m row twice. Once on my 64th birthday and once on my 65th birthday. It is the most soul sucking thing I have ever done. It took me just over 4 hours and put me down for the next two days. I cannot imagine what it would take to do a games level WOD after doing this.
I think about the marathon row literally every day. I remember hearing someone say the person who won held a 1:45 500m pace the entire way, and that is around what I get if I do an all out sprint on the rower 😂
So cool to hear you guys talking about Crew!! I see some rowers in the chat as well but I'd like to add that we do that this kind of training at the start or right before our season as we aim to build endurance on the erg and we begin to ramp down the meterage and focus on many intervals of small meters ranging from full 2k to 200/100m sprints all to advocate for the different adaptations we need when taking our 2k tests. Just hit sub 7 at 6:53 which is an avg of 1.43.3 split and looking at these other guys and elite level rowers is insane!! Ergs are the bread and butter for rowing and we try and translate that to water when racing against other boats. There's a different level of pain when your on the erg that just tells you to give up and it messes with you so hard because you'll be saying the most pathetic shit to get you from finishing a 2k test or just a really hard piece. But you cant, you got people counting on you to be the best you can to win when your out on that water lined up with your competition. Rowings the only sport you can see beating other teams as you cross that finish line and it makes all that much worth it. Thats my ramble, but love your videos man keep it up.
I did the marathon row recently, I don’t know how these guys did it so fast. I definitely did not drink enough water, that night, I think I drank almost 2 gallons of water just nonstop. The last 10,000 m was somehow the easiest and the hardest. Mentally the easiest but physically, my arms were cramping every single time I pulled, Back was just numb.
I've had the same conversation about US soccer at the world stage. We have the talent, but almost all of them go into sports that guarantee free education and loads of cash stateside. Basketball, football, basketball etc.
In the Netherlands we have the longest 1-day rowing marathon in the world, the Ringvaart Regatta with 100km. Sometimes conditions are so horrible 8's and 4's sink 😁 I rowed it 3 times, was a lot of fun and my hands looked horrible afterwards with one big blister 🤣 But marathon rowers (yes, they exist) are usually scrawny endurance athletes who row on technique and not on power.
Rowers do Erg Marathons, The only difference is that They won't do competitive Crossfit Workouts before or after they row a marathon on the same day, the day before, and the day after
Yea crossfit athletes are a lot better then before but back when it all started it was really not known what the events were going to be. Snatch for example many athletes did for the first time in the games. Yes they still do random stuff in crossfit games but most of it is known things that they have trained before.
@@thomaspothof6423 Bring plenty of water and have an energizing snack like honey or some of those gel shot things. It is brutal, but if you're in good rowing shape it's nothing impossibly hard
@@troygilbride3302 I feel like when I rowed my in college after a while you just kinda zone out and then it’s over. I don’t know if that was your experience.
Jesus. I had a very typical lifting culture view of crossfit before I started watching Zack's videos on it. I got nothing but respect for these people now, actual bona fide athletes. Crazy shit.
Love the conversation here and stories from behind the scenes. But can we get the exposure fixed on the video - it's so washed out with the bright sun. Obviously not ideal with bright sun and shadow but made this one harder to watch.
Just remember that these elite level rowers have been doing that for easily over 10+ years. Given their heights holding under 1:30 split for a 2km is expected if you want to attempt anything meaningful. A crossfitter pulling a 6:20 2km is just as impressive. Given how short they generally are and their lack of experience, it really is amazing. Only your elite level schoolboys are going under 6:20 and they've been doing only rowing for 4-5 years so think about that too. Nobody really does a 42km ergo session, no point really. Such a long session will be done on the water rather but yeah, more mileage at UT2 pace does tend to produce better rowers. But not at AT pace like they are doing in this event, that would be an unwise session considering it would negatively effect the rest of your mileage for the week. What's the point in doing a crazy 42km time only to suffer for the rest of your week's 200km?
I was thinking along the lines of olympic rowing and typical crew distances. however I will be the first to say that I have really no idea what their training entails.
@@zacktelander ex collegiate rower here Off season training is just tons and tons of steady state, anywhere from 10-30k a day on the erg. 2x10k is a super standard workout. During training camps we would hit 40k on the water a day pretty easily as well
Love the point about the best American athletes doing mainstream sports. If Adrian Peterson or Saquon Barkley did CrossFit, that’d have been a spectacle just to name a couple.
I watched this live. The most boring moment I have ever had in my life. They had a big teleprompter showing little digital boats to desperately make it feel like a competition instead of a bunch of dudes circle jerking for an afternoon. Castro did a generally terrible job with the programming that year. The vendors tents were legit.
Snatching 2 blues and you were with man hahahaha nah dude .. when you came in froning was snatching 300 consistently and wasn’t the best lifter.. why anyone listens to this guy is beyond me
Perfect example of why you shouldn’t do this kind of training. Non functional. Look at his leg! It’s broke! And you still push this type of training lol. Yay ego !!
I was there. All of this is true.
Such a treat seeing you comment on vids ❤
@@SG-lj8uu I like to sneak around the internet
Lol see this is awesome ... an actual Games athlete commenting on the vid lol love to see it. What up Fikowski !! Just a fan hope to see you out there this yr at the games
Josh Bridges just laughed and said "Ok Dave you got us"
😂😂
zack casually hanging out with greg everett and matt fraser is a crossover i never thought I’d see
Where’s his video with Greg?
He’s literally in this video
Former collegiate rower here, currently coaching. 20+ km training sessions (around half a marathon) are pretty standard routine endurance sessions if you row somewhat seriously. At the higher levels these endurance sessions can become 30+ km, although full marathons are a bit on the long side. Weekly milage for Olympic rowers is probably 200+ km weekly, maybe up to 300 km, often training multiple times per day. It should be noted that these very long sessions tend to be at a lower intensity with the purpose of building aerobic base fitness and the more intensive sessions tend to be a lot shorter, as rowers tend to train specifically for the 2000m.
Was just about to say this. Hour of power, 90 minute pieces in the winter time are standard and you just get used to it. Make sure you got a legit playlist and dial in.
Swimmer here. Long Course
30x400 @5:20 350 Free/50 Fly breathing 1/1 for 25, last 5 breathing 2/1
15 x100 Fly @ 1:40 extra minute befoe the last one, dive off the side (didnt have blocks) 1:02
200 Easy 13 700m
Did another ~ 6000m at afternoon practice.
This was durning our spring camp at Mission Viejo in 1995.
I swam well over 100km that week.
Full disclosure: don't know anything about rowing at any technical level, but wouldn't this cause permanent damage to the SI joint (potentially)?
@@b-sideplank good question bro. If you’re using your core then you don’t really feel your back much. Mat’s form sucks. I was also a collegiate/professional rower and we also rowed around 200k a week. No SI joint issues at all.
@@keeganjohnson-meyers598 makes sense.. but damn! You guys must have titanium cores
My mate and I once did a marathon row. We prepped for several months. Had to get up multiple times to let the blood back into our butts and to slam back some gummy snakes. I couldn’t unflex my ring finger for 2 days after. It was brutal. The fact they did it just as an event in the games is bananas.
When he said marathon I was like holy crap... running with base blasting for 3 hours sucks. Then the clip of him rowing popped up and said 26.2 miles. I dropped my phone in fear and agony. I've rowed 3,000 meters and had to crawl half alive to my car. Dude HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?!?!?!? LEVELS
The workout itself is nuts. But them doing this at max intensity ( for that distance) and then continuing into the following workouts half a day later is bonkers
Really nice and easy conversation. I love how this almost ended up like a full-blown podcast episode. Great content as always, Matt's got stories for days!!
As a rower it’s pretty normal to hit 2 hours on the erg, no one really uses tanks anymore, but we sometimes have different machines called rp3, or put the concept 2 on things we call sliders. Guys will pull marathons as second workouts in a day.
That is insane! But they do it in a super low intensity, not competing with another 30 dudes rowing 1.40 for 500m
Let me add some clarification here….I’ve done a 1/2 marathon on a rower. I’m 5 ft 9 200lbs. Similar build to Mat. It was brutal. The difference sounds CRAZY. Marathon is a different level.
Same, did half marathon on the rower the same year they did it at the games was in college and in the best shape of my life at the time, it'd by far the hardest workout I've ever done I couldn't imagine doing a full marathon.
As someone that does ultramarathons, I gave this “workout” a go about a 3 weeks ago when I was dealin with a minor knee injury…took me just over 3 hours, ~42k meters, it sucked…but more mental than anything. Would def recommend doing it at least(most) once!
I have done the 46027.24m row twice. Once on my 64th birthday and once on my 65th birthday. It is the most soul sucking thing I have ever done. It took me just over 4 hours and put me down for the next two days. I cannot imagine what it would take to do a games level WOD after doing this.
When is the interview with Greg the OG?
Definitely a must for Zack.
I think about the marathon row literally every day. I remember hearing someone say the person who won held a 1:45 500m pace the entire way, and that is around what I get if I do an all out sprint on the rower 😂
It was Lukas Esslinger from Switzerland rowing 2:43:50. Actually he's not that crazy big at 5'11 and 200 lbs but he's still a machine.
We are going to need more @CatalystAthletics in the near future.
So cool to hear you guys talking about Crew!! I see some rowers in the chat as well but I'd like to add that we do that this kind of training at the start or right before our season as we aim to build endurance on the erg and we begin to ramp down the meterage and focus on many intervals of small meters ranging from full 2k to 200/100m sprints all to advocate for the different adaptations we need when taking our 2k tests. Just hit sub 7 at 6:53 which is an avg of 1.43.3 split and looking at these other guys and elite level rowers is insane!! Ergs are the bread and butter for rowing and we try and translate that to water when racing against other boats. There's a different level of pain when your on the erg that just tells you to give up and it messes with you so hard because you'll be saying the most pathetic shit to get you from finishing a 2k test or just a really hard piece. But you cant, you got people counting on you to be the best you can to win when your out on that water lined up with your competition. Rowings the only sport you can see beating other teams as you cross that finish line and it makes all that much worth it. Thats my ramble, but love your videos man keep it up.
I did the marathon row recently, I don’t know how these guys did it so fast. I definitely did not drink enough water, that night, I think I drank almost 2 gallons of water just nonstop. The last 10,000 m was somehow the easiest and the hardest. Mentally the easiest but physically, my arms were cramping every single time I pulled, Back was just numb.
There is a marathon of rowing in Saguenay lac St Jean in Québec! It is called Festirame. It happens each summer !
I've had the same conversation about US soccer at the world stage. We have the talent, but almost all of them go into sports that guarantee free education and loads of cash stateside. Basketball, football, basketball etc.
In the Netherlands we have the longest 1-day rowing marathon in the world, the Ringvaart Regatta with 100km. Sometimes conditions are so horrible 8's and 4's sink 😁 I rowed it 3 times, was a lot of fun and my hands looked horrible afterwards with one big blister 🤣
But marathon rowers (yes, they exist) are usually scrawny endurance athletes who row on technique and not on power.
Would love to see a video w/ Greg Everett talking about weightlifting and coaching. His videos have been an indispensable resource for me
Rowers do Erg Marathons,
The only difference is that They won't do competitive Crossfit Workouts before or after they row a marathon on the same day, the day before, and the day after
YES! More Gregg on your show.
Yea crossfit athletes are a lot better then before but back when it all started it was really not known what the events were going to be. Snatch for example many athletes did for the first time in the games. Yes they still do random stuff in crossfit games but most of it is known things that they have trained before.
I love hearing Matt talk
Former college rower. Have erged 2 marathons. We had a yearly marathon event as a fundraiser
How bad is it? Have one coming up in 6 weeks
@@thomaspothof6423 Bring plenty of water and have an energizing snack like honey or some of those gel shot things. It is brutal, but if you're in good rowing shape it's nothing impossibly hard
@@troygilbride3302 I feel like when I rowed my in college after a while you just kinda zone out and then it’s over. I don’t know if that was your experience.
Jesus. I had a very typical lifting culture view of crossfit before I started watching Zack's videos on it. I got nothing but respect for these people now, actual bona fide athletes. Crazy shit.
Thanks for the generosity of spirit to recognize that.
can you do a pod w Greg mate? would love to get that down sometime!
Does Zack have any other content with Greg? I'd love to see them talk
Hey Zack.. you should ask TrainingTall if rowers would ever do marathons. I loved watching his videos when I first started rowing.
Please tell me you got at least one video with Greg Everett????
Love the conversation here and stories from behind the scenes.
But can we get the exposure fixed on the video - it's so washed out with the bright sun. Obviously not ideal with bright sun and shadow but made this one harder to watch.
How many cals per hour did he hold for it? Does anyone know
Please tell me you did/are planning to do content with Greg
I couldn’t fathom rowing a marathon without leaving in a ambulance
3:45 alone with house music done and done
Mat is the man
Just remember that these elite level rowers have been doing that for easily over 10+ years. Given their heights holding under 1:30 split for a 2km is expected if you want to attempt anything meaningful. A crossfitter pulling a 6:20 2km is just as impressive. Given how short they generally are and their lack of experience, it really is amazing. Only your elite level schoolboys are going under 6:20 and they've been doing only rowing for 4-5 years so think about that too. Nobody really does a 42km ergo session, no point really. Such a long session will be done on the water rather but yeah, more mileage at UT2 pace does tend to produce better rowers. But not at AT pace like they are doing in this event, that would be an unwise session considering it would negatively effect the rest of your mileage for the week. What's the point in doing a crazy 42km time only to suffer for the rest of your week's 200km?
“This is crossfit, that’s how” 💯
I remember watching athletes trying to stay awake during that workout 😂
You need to study rowing Zac. There are competitive races across oceans.
I was thinking along the lines of olympic rowing and typical crew distances. however I will be the first to say that I have really no idea what their training entails.
@@zacktelander ex collegiate rower here
Off season training is just tons and tons of steady state, anywhere from 10-30k a day on the erg. 2x10k is a super standard workout. During training camps we would hit 40k on the water a day pretty easily as well
@@jagebauer123 5 seat big boy here and 90 minute pieces made me want to off myself.
Love the point about the best American athletes doing mainstream sports. If Adrian Peterson or Saquon Barkley did CrossFit, that’d have been a spectacle just to name a couple.
I was gassed after a 5k row .. amazing how people do marathons
Weightlifting God making a cameo… I mean Greg Everett LOL
Brave man sitting through the base of that music. I wouldn't have lasted 2 minutes lol
should have talked about his stack. look at how small he is now, way less agressive as well.
Because it has nothing to do with not training for competitions in over 2 years. Has to be the drugz(tm)!
@@chrisvanderwielen1530 you would be foolish to think top athletes arent taking some kind of ped to win.
It would have been much nicer to hear Matt tell his story without Zack interrupting all the time.
Fucking brutal!
It also true that a crossfitter will always change "the worst workout" opinion from time to time 😂
Took me right at 4hrs. I don't feel the need to ever do it again.
Crazy
For the algo gainz
🥇
You should have cleaned that DJ's clock
I’ve done a Marathon Row before. It truly is awful.
Mad chat
this is good content. nothing special. Just dudes talking CF/Weightlifting. dope!
I'm gassed at 2k row.. 42k? Nope.
Whenever I watch that row event I just think of all the energy we could have harvested from these athletes if we hooked the rowers up to a grid 🤣😂
🏋
I watched this live. The most boring moment I have ever had in my life. They had a big teleprompter showing little digital boats to desperately make it feel like a competition instead of a bunch of dudes circle jerking for an afternoon. Castro did a generally terrible job with the programming that year. The vendors tents were legit.
the sport of CrossFit can be so much better if they stopped doing dumb workouts like this at the games
Snatching 2 blues and you were with man hahahaha nah dude .. when you came in froning was snatching 300 consistently and wasn’t the best lifter.. why anyone listens to this guy is beyond me
Perfect example of why you shouldn’t do this kind of training. Non functional. Look at his leg! It’s broke! And you still push this type of training lol. Yay ego !!
He injured his knee from jits, but go off