I have had 2-308's ,1-6.5 grendel , 3-223/5.56 and 1-6.5 cm from BCA all uppers but one and I only had problem's with 1 I only ordered the barrel a fluted 24in ss 308 couldn't get it to cycle I tried everything ended up I drilled the gas hole bigger and it still shoots great to this day 168 & 175gr bthp are dead on
I have several BCA they are 50% with QC. Just got a .243 had to send the first one back due to bad crowning. Second one is functioning with modified spring.
I think barrels are actually pretty good. But serious quality control with the other components. The only two I didn't have issues with was a 350 Legend and 350 Legend Barrel I bought.
I would watch a few more videos and read some forums. Most products seem to work well. I have an upper I haven’t shot yet. But from everything I’ve read it seems stuff that goes wrong they will fix. More importantly for how much money you save you can afford to upgrade most of the crappy parts. I think the thing is your getting what you paid for. The only way they can sell stuff that cheap is because of all the volume and soft QC. I’m low income so I bought what I could afford. Ultimately the fact you can get an AR for $400-600 is really kinda amazing.
If you are still looking to build that AR10 in 22-250, get the upper from PSA (palmetto state armory) and the barrel from BHW (black hole weaponry, a division of Columbia Arms). Good luck and stay safe!!! 😉😉😉
I find a semi auto in a 300WM in an AR type package sounds very interesting but I will wait to read the reviews. If it functions like my 450 BM upper from them does, it isn't worth my money.
One of the still pictures you show are of my primer problems (Hornady Superformance). I solved that issue with a new BCG and adjustable gas block from Aero, it now runs those fine and I reload 55gr bullets which run great in my 22-250 and very accurate. In my case the bolt and carrier had several out of spec measurements and was a total piece of crap.
I just got a new 1/14" twist upper. This was an issue i was hoping i didn't have. I lucked out. I had to modify a mag to get it to cycle. So far so good.
Primers getting pushed out is a sign of low pressure. The case does not expand in the bore. Normaly the primer moves out and then get "sqeezed" in again when the case grows. Or it happens at the same time. But low pressure push the primer out. you can confirm this by measuring headspace on the case, it should not have grown. Fun fact, if you measure your headspace on the primer (that is pushed out) it should be almost identical to a "full load" case, that has a flat or proper primer.
I got six Bear Creek arsenal upper receivers that never gave me any problems. Twenty-three thousand rounds combined with no problem. Every apple tree produces at least one or two bad apples. Problems you are having happened once in awhile with every gun company. But I know it sucks to get the apple.
@@OutdoorEDventures all nall. Why not fam. I was going to get one of their AR 10s. What should I know before I buy one & who would you recommend bro ‼️
I bought a couple of their 243’s. First one was awesome. Second purchase of the lighter 20” version had a ruff cut barrel and intern poor accuracy. It took almost a year to get a replacement back. They told me they were waiting for tooling then they told me they were never gonna make another 243 chambering again. I finally got one from them and happy to see it shoots lights out. I was told they had three or four of them but none of them passed the MOA guarantee that was offered at the time so they wouldn’t send them to me. I told him I would rather take my chance and figure it out on my own because I can’t replace a 243 upper for the price I bought it for which was under 300 bucks. I figured worst case scenario I would sell it and double my price at the time because that’s one panic buying was going on. They also told me that they tested it with full metal jacket hand loads with a random load. lol…. I got that replacement upper from them and took it out to test with a dozen of the tightest grouping handloads from the last upper that I sent back. Every one of the load shot sub MOA except for one which was probably my fault. Tightest group all touched at .3” at 100 yards. Never had any problems with cycling or blown primers with either or any of them so I would assume it’s a 22-250 build issue on their end. Sound like to me a head spacing issue with the backed out primers.
I have a BCA 6.5 Creedmoor gen 1 side charger. Bolt handle was sticking out of box and bent. Pierced primers from too long tip on firing pin. Any factory ammo with more than 120 g bullets would not chamber. Practically no freebore in rifling. Had to open up the throat with a PTG throat reamer. And finally the charging handle will not stay tight. Also the bottom of the gas block was riding on the inside of the handguard.
I stumbled on your video. I've got a similar story with one of their AR10 308 uppers. Sad it's not a unique incident. I have other uppers from them, but for all the uppers I've ever bought, it's been the biggest pain point for me.
Same company, different cal. I purchased a 16 inch 450BM upper from them. It failed to cycle with Hornady factory ammo. I sent it back and within a few weeks it was returned with a note saying that it functioned. I had the same issue that I had when I sent it in. I plan to drill out the gas port and pace an adjustable gas block on it...but I'm also considering purchasing an 18 inch barrel from another MFGR and, again, using an adjustable gas block. I'm very disappointed in that company and I have no plans to give them more of my money unless I see that they have upped their game. Disclaimer: Many report good things about their rifles/uppers, but there are a lot of people, like me, who are disappointed with their products.
Fortunately the only issues I’ve had with BCA was a 350 legend upper that after 2 trips to the shop, I eventually got a refund…I have a 6.5 Creedmoor in transit and I am hoping that I don’t encounter any issues
I have a 308 side charging rifle they cerokoted for x mas last year. Awsome shooter. I bought a 24 Grendel that was minute of man and years ago. Rebarreled with a Wilson and is a shooter as well.
Yea, I also may be guilty of buying a complete BCA for the upper receiver and hand guard. Selling the barrel and replacing it with a wildcat ahahahah...
I would be excited if they sold their assembled uppers without the bcg for a cheaper price and recommend a high pressure bcg for them! Bolt’s out of spec, the firing pin hole is too big, and their firing pins are too long!
@@OutdoorEDventures I posted a link to the remains of the upper receiver. Note that that beat the bottom down to try and get the bolt back so I can save the barrel. Also there are some cuts from the Dremel tool I used. When it first happened it was barely bulged but was locked up. It did blow the mag out of the gun and blew the bottom out of it. It looks worse now than it did at the range. I was using factory 77grain Winchester that I had used in my other guns without issues, literally the same box. The gun would shoot standard 55grains fine but really seemed like more BCG travel than normal it also would grab the next round and smash it more often than not. I contacted BCA and got the run around posted a review and it was taken down within a day or so. I tried the 77's because it was supposed to have great accuracy with that barrel according to the website. The first round kinda chambered a little slow but I didn't really think much of it, I already had written it off as POS. Fired the shot Wich felt a bit stout and jammed the empty half in and half out of the chamber. Cleared it and for whatever reason chambered the next round. Fired and there was a lot of extra smoke and bits of plastic on the bench. Not exactly sure what happened I decided to dissect the gun back home. Most of this could have been avoided if I had just sent it back initially but I was so angered by the woman on the phone I would rather have lost the money on the upper than deal with that company again. So I'm partially at fault. But I never thought it would blow up.
Unfortunately BCA is developing a HUGE dumpster Fire and in my opinion will end up in bankruptcy it could have been a great company but with NO Q.C. and the lack of give a truck it is what it is my first bca was my last I never go cheap ever since then!!!!!!
Mostly 2 reasons they sell: People don't know about their spotty QC problems and because they are cheap. I bought a 450BM upper because it was cheap enough that if it didn't;t function that I could personally address the issue if I sent it back for repair and then it had the same issue when it came back. It had the same issue when it was returned: it was under gassed. I'll drill out the gas port, use an adjustable gas block, hopefully to make it work and never buy from them again. I bought, I learned, I will spend my money elsewhere. Considering a new barrel...just because.
When I bought my first upper in 350 legend they were the only game in town with them in stock. Being in Ohio I have to run straight wall cartridges for gun season. Well you live and you learn I guess
I have had 2-308's ,1-6.5 grendel , 3-223/5.56 and 1-6.5 cm from BCA all uppers but one and I only had problem's with 1 I only ordered the barrel a fluted 24in ss 308 couldn't get it to cycle I tried everything ended up I drilled the gas hole bigger and it still shoots great to this day 168 & 175gr bthp are dead on
I have several BCA they are 50% with QC. Just got a .243 had to send the first one back due to bad crowning. Second one is functioning with modified spring.
I had the same experience with 6.5 creedmoor. I bought 6 of them, they all had the same issues. No way I'd trust a 300 win mag.
P R E A C H!!!!
Thanks for sharing, I almost traded a rifle I own for one of their ar10, dodged the bullet. Thanks man
Ya.... I really wanted it to work out but....
Good info. I guess BCA is a no-go until they can prove themselves reliable.
I think barrels are actually pretty good. But serious quality control with the other components. The only two I didn't have issues with was a 350 Legend and 350 Legend Barrel I bought.
I would watch a few more videos and read some forums. Most products seem to work well. I have an upper I haven’t shot yet. But from everything I’ve read it seems stuff that goes wrong they will fix. More importantly for how much money you save you can afford to upgrade most of the crappy parts. I think the thing is your getting what you paid for. The only way they can sell stuff that cheap is because of all the volume and soft QC. I’m low income so I bought what I could afford. Ultimately the fact you can get an AR for $400-600 is really kinda amazing.
If you are still looking to build that AR10 in 22-250, get the upper from PSA (palmetto state armory) and the barrel from BHW (black hole weaponry, a division of Columbia Arms). Good luck and stay safe!!! 😉😉😉
Nope moving to a 22CM...
Well dayum. Im waiting on there 300wm but I might sit this first gen out! 🤷♂️
I'd seriously avoid. Do research on their current .243, 6.5CR , and .308's NOT GOOD!
@@OutdoorEDventures right
I find a semi auto in a 300WM in an AR type package sounds very interesting but I will wait to read the reviews. If it functions like my 450 BM upper from them does, it isn't worth my money.
One of the still pictures you show are of my primer problems (Hornady Superformance). I solved that issue with a new BCG and adjustable gas block from Aero, it now runs those fine and I reload 55gr bullets which run great in my 22-250 and very accurate. In my case the bolt and carrier had several out of spec measurements and was a total piece of crap.
Why doesn't BCA just fix the known problem....
22-250 can be a bit touchy with heavier bullets & fast twist rates
Or... BCA should have never released a fast TR without doing some QC
I just got a new 1/14" twist upper.
This was an issue i was hoping i didn't have. I lucked out. I had to modify a mag to get it to cycle. So far so good.
I'm fairly certain they discontinued the fast TR barrels after this video!!!
Primers getting pushed out is a sign of low pressure.
The case does not expand in the bore. Normaly the primer moves out and then get "sqeezed" in again when the case grows. Or it happens at the same time.
But low pressure push the primer out. you can confirm this by measuring headspace on the case, it should not have grown.
Fun fact, if you measure your headspace on the primer (that is pushed out) it should be almost identical to a "full load" case, that has a flat or proper primer.
Boxed ammo?! Hmmmm...
damn! good to know. sorry you had to go through it.
I hate wasting components especially with primer issues were dealing with. Trust me. Nightmare!
I bought the slow twist 1/12 and it turned out alright 1/2” group with 50grn @100 yards. BCA is hit n miss with QA for sure
Congrats. I eventually got my money back. That's all that matters.
I got six Bear Creek arsenal upper receivers that never gave me any problems.
Twenty-three thousand rounds combined with no problem.
Every apple tree produces at least one or two bad apples.
Problems you are having happened once in awhile with every gun company.
But I know it sucks to get the apple.
I'm gonna presume you are shooting AR15's. I have "0" faith in their AR10 line ups.
@@OutdoorEDventures all nall. Why not fam. I was going to get one of their AR 10s. What should I know before I buy one & who would you recommend bro ‼️
I have 2 .308 uppers with about 900 thru one and about 400 thru the other,and I can say they run very well
I bought a couple of their 243’s. First one was awesome. Second purchase of the lighter 20” version had a ruff cut barrel and intern poor accuracy. It took almost a year to get a replacement back. They told me they were waiting for tooling then they told me they were never gonna make another 243 chambering again. I finally got one from them and happy to see it shoots lights out. I was told they had three or four of them but none of them passed the MOA guarantee that was offered at the time so they wouldn’t send them to me. I told him I would rather take my chance and figure it out on my own because I can’t replace a 243 upper for the price I bought it for which was under 300 bucks. I figured worst case scenario I would sell it and double my price at the time because that’s one panic buying was going on. They also told me that they tested it with full metal jacket hand loads with a random load. lol…. I got that replacement upper from them and took it out to test with a dozen of the tightest grouping handloads from the last upper that I sent back. Every one of the load shot sub MOA except for one which was probably my fault. Tightest group all touched at .3” at 100 yards. Never had any problems with cycling or blown primers with either or any of them so I would assume it’s a 22-250 build issue on their end. Sound like to me a head spacing issue with the backed out primers.
I have a BCA 6.5 Creedmoor gen 1 side charger. Bolt handle was sticking out of box and bent. Pierced primers from too long tip on firing pin. Any factory ammo with more than 120 g bullets would not chamber. Practically no freebore in rifling. Had to open up the throat with a PTG throat reamer. And finally the charging handle will not stay tight. Also the bottom of the gas block was riding on the inside of the handguard.
So standard BCA QC!!!!
I stumbled on your video. I've got a similar story with one of their AR10 308 uppers. Sad it's not a unique incident. I have other uppers from them, but for all the uppers I've ever bought, it's been the biggest pain point for me.
Hey Ed I’m hearing good things about 22 Creedmoor
Just about to get a 22 CR AI Wildcat.
Same company, different cal. I purchased a 16 inch 450BM upper from them. It failed to cycle with Hornady factory ammo. I sent it back and within a few weeks it was returned with a note saying that it functioned. I had the same issue that I had when I sent it in. I plan to drill out the gas port and pace an adjustable gas block on it...but I'm also considering purchasing an 18 inch barrel from another MFGR and, again, using an adjustable gas block. I'm very disappointed in that company and I have no plans to give them more of my money unless I see that they have upped their game. Disclaimer: Many report good things about their rifles/uppers, but there are a lot of people, like me, who are disappointed with their products.
I have 50% confidence in AR15's and zero confidence in AR10's
Quick, informative. Thank you
Keep it simple.
Fortunately the only issues I’ve had with BCA was a 350 legend upper that after 2 trips to the shop, I eventually got a refund…I have a 6.5 Creedmoor in transit and I am hoping that I don’t encounter any issues
I've had about 50% success rate with AR15's and 0% success rate with AR10's. Good luck. Keep us posted.
I have a 308 side charging rifle they cerokoted for x mas last year. Awsome shooter. I bought a 24 Grendel that was minute of man and years ago. Rebarreled with a Wilson and is a shooter as well.
Yea, I also may be guilty of buying a complete BCA for the upper receiver and hand guard. Selling the barrel and replacing it with a wildcat ahahahah...
It is a good risk. If barrel is good great. If it is a shooter bonus
Just got a BCA .350 legend upper. Hope I don't run into problems with it.
AR15's are a lot less to tame than an AR10. I've had 2 BCA 350 Legends with no issues.
That sucks. I was looking at getting one to use specifically for predator hunting but guess I’ll wait.
AVOID!
Are u running the winchester primer that have issues/recall
Yes but I have run the same primers in a bunch of wildcat variants, 243. 6.5CM's 280AI, 308, 30.06 so defiantly not the primer.
There is bad wlr primers floating around
Not according to my .308, 30-06, 6.5CM, 22CM, 280AI, etc. so NOT the primer but poor BCA Quality.
My 50 beowulf runs awesome still maybe a fuzz light on my buffer weight but a problem for another day
AR15 are a lot less finicky than AR10's. I would not trust ANY of their AR10 line ups!
@@OutdoorEDventures i haven't tried ar10s yet but I'm planning on trying it
That's scary shite.
No one wants the spent primer in pieces in the buffer
Or gas key.... Bwhahahaha....
I would be excited if they sold their assembled uppers without the bcg for a cheaper price and recommend a high pressure bcg for them! Bolt’s out of spec, the firing pin hole is too big, and their firing pins are too long!
I've had no issue with barrel and builds. Do they not cell their AR10 Upper Receiver?
Idk man my 6.5 creedmoor upper had problems. My bcg is a paper weight and it was way over gassed. New bcg ang adjustable gas block was the fix
Well hell. I have been looking into these but won’t touch them now. Figures
AVOID!!!!
I might have missed it in the video. What was the gas tube length they opted for in their upper?
I believe all my AR10's have right length gas tube or rifle length +2"
They are absolute crap, had similar issues with a 350 legend upper. And a 223 Wylde barrel blew up with factory 223 Winchester
Blew up?! Please send details/pics.
@@OutdoorEDventures I dug the parts out of a box I had them in. I took some pictures but not sure how to post them here.
@@OutdoorEDventures I posted a link to the remains of the upper receiver. Note that that beat the bottom down to try and get the bolt back so I can save the barrel. Also there are some cuts from the Dremel tool I used.
When it first happened it was barely bulged but was locked up. It did blow the mag out of the gun and blew the bottom out of it. It looks worse now than it did at the range. I was using factory 77grain Winchester that I had used in my other guns without issues, literally the same box. The gun would shoot standard 55grains fine but really seemed like more BCG travel than normal it also would grab the next round and smash it more often than not. I contacted BCA and got the run around posted a review and it was taken down within a day or so. I tried the 77's because it was supposed to have great accuracy with that barrel according to the website. The first round kinda chambered a little slow but I didn't really think much of it, I already had written it off as POS. Fired the shot Wich felt a bit stout and jammed the empty half in and half out of the chamber. Cleared it and for whatever reason chambered the next round. Fired and there was a lot of extra smoke and bits of plastic on the bench. Not exactly sure what happened I decided to dissect the gun back home. Most of this could have been avoided if I had just sent it back initially but I was so angered by the woman on the phone I would rather have lost the money on the upper than deal with that company again. So I'm partially at fault. But I never thought it would blow up.
Unfortunately BCA is developing a HUGE dumpster Fire and in my opinion will end up in bankruptcy it could have been a great company but with NO Q.C. and the lack of give a truck it is what it is my first bca was my last I never go cheap ever since then!!!!!!
There needs to be a bottom of the competition somewhere. Hopefully they will stick around as a company of what not to do.
Are you getting oil on your bolt face.
Yes, but I use the same process for all my shooting systems and this is the only one that's responded this way.
Why people buy BCA trash is beyond me
Barrels are actually pretty accurate everything else might need better QC
Mostly 2 reasons they sell: People don't know about their spotty QC problems and because they are cheap. I bought a 450BM upper because it was cheap enough that if it didn't;t function that I could personally address the issue if I sent it back for repair and then it had the same issue when it came back. It had the same issue when it was returned: it was under gassed. I'll drill out the gas port, use an adjustable gas block, hopefully to make it work and never buy from them again. I bought, I learned, I will spend my money elsewhere. Considering a new barrel...just because.
When I bought my first upper in 350 legend they were the only game in town with them in stock. Being in Ohio I have to run straight wall cartridges for gun season. Well you live and you learn I guess
1-9 theyre advertising 1-14 rn.
Not saying I caused it but, after December when I got my money back I no longer saw the 1:9 TR barrels available.
Man that sucks
Understatement. At least I got my money back.
You get what you pay for
Preach
I don't buy their stuff for same reason, it's crap.
Agreed