'Mind blown' with new details in James Crumbley trial: Shooting witness' mom | NewsNation Prime
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2024
- James Crumbley is on trial for involuntary manslaughter in the deaths of four students killed four days after the gun purchase. He’s accused of failing to secure the gun at home and ignoring signs of his son, Ethan Crumbley's mental distress.
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A friend of mine bought his 19 year old son a handgun for Christmas! He was a great kid with promise. Went down to the basement one day and shot himself dead with the gun his dad bought him for Christmas. Why do people think guns are toys?
Am so sorry
@@sharonmckay9920 Nothing to be sorry about. Happens all the time in the good old USA. We have more guns in this country than people. We are completely saturated with these ‘toys’. My attitude , when I’m out and about, is to assume anybody I encounter is going to be carrying a deadly weapon.
@@Bretski126 Don’t you think he could have also found another way to kill himself WITHOUT a gun? for every story like that there are stories about people saving lives as well. The 18 year old new mom whose home was being broken into and she was able to defend herself with a gun. The 14 year old son of a store owner who defended the store …with a gun. However, if you have the slightest inkling that guns can cause more harm than good in your home, then don’t get one.
The parents actions before during and after this tragedy were horrific 😡
The most convincing evidence is that he signed a legal form saying that his purchase for his use and only his use. A lie as all his communications revealed that the gun was a present for his under age kid.
I think it would be different if he would have given him the gun and told him he could walk around town with it. It looked like his dad bought Ethan the gun just to use at the shooting range. Clearly, Ethan had been allowed to use a gun at the shooting range that was rented out to him by the shooting range. So there are many ways you could look at it. Dad bought the gun for himself so that his son could use it at the shooting range. Seemingly it’s acceptable/legal for a Ethan to borrow the gun from the shooting range, so it would make no difference if now he borrows a gun from his dad at the shooting range.
@@jilpok1074wrong that’s not how it was at all. James made two gun purchases for his son. Both after he knew his son was having mental health issues. Both said it was the shooters Christmas present. In both gun purchases, James signed papers making it legally his gun and also stated that it wasn’t a strong man’s purchase meaning the gun was for James and not for someone else like a minor. The gun was given to the shooter and neither the lock box nor the gun lock that came with it were used.
Even if the purchase was made for James and the shooter could borrow it at the gun range (which wasn’t the case) still James committed a crime.
But Jennifer said it was the shooters Christmas present.
There’s a reason why both were charged.
@@Weatheredstorms1 So when the shooting range rents out the gun it’s okay and perfectly legal. But if someone lends him a gun to use at the shooting range, then it’s not ok? Don’t you think he could have shot people at the shooting range with the gun that was loaned to him by the shooting range?
@@jilpok1074but that’s not the facts.
@@jilpok1074 What’s your point?
Disfunctional parents to unbalanced son. What a mess .
This boy was crying for help. Parents were narcissists and abusers.
Yes definitely! Liars too!
II agree ! It was stated in his sentencing hearing that he was left at home as young as 6. These were not parents who couldn't see or handle his mental issues, they helped cause it by their lack of caring. Especially mom. He was screaming out for help but once he made up his mind to commit this horrific crime of course he didn't tell anyone that he needed help. He had given up!
The school should have not allowed him back to school. The parents are to blame also. All of these people are trying to lay blame elsewhere & this is pathetic. They All should be held accountable.
Thank you for asking the question that has been on my mind the whole time! The school administrators KNEW the student was a danger and put all staff and students in immediate danger when they thought, "Well, I guess we've done everything WE can do!" when the idiot parents refused to take him home and get the help he needed. I'm assuming they didn't ask the student if he had a gun with him or check his school bag and locker. They could have stopped all of this from happening. There is no doubt they have responsibility in this. I'd be interested in hearing the Principal respond to the question, "Why didn't you check his bag and locker and remove the student from the school grounds by calling a mental health response team or police to ensure the safety of the staff and students at the school if you had enough concern to call his parents to remove him and they didn't?"
This infuriates me too bc when I was in high school in Kentucky (this is after columbine), the whole school had to get rid of their damn back packs and carry clear or mesh backpacks. We all had to buy a god damn clear or mesh backpack. Every single student. And were still subject to frequent random searches.
But after everything that has happened so many times, with what in my opinion is an outright credible threat to safety…..they couldn’t search him or force him home. Wtf
@@itchysheets1222wow that sounds horrible! You don't have any wounds from wearing the clear backpacks, do you? Sounds almost as bad as being shot!
@@parthenocarpySA Clear backpacks and metal detectors are okay if it is a poor underfunded school that has gang activity. But having stuff like metal detectors or clear backpacks is apparently impossible at a wealthy school and the metal detectors cost too much money. Hmm 🤔
Refuse is a strong word. They simply suggested Ethan could go home with them. They declined.
@@jilpok1074lol.
anyone from oxford here that was forced to take their child home and not given a choice? i never knew parents were given a choice when called to the school for kid being kicked out
Realistically, to kick a kid out. They did need to do disciplinary measures or suspension/expulsion. Or some sort of medical need. Now, many would say ya know physc That isn't seen as an immediate need. Like if a kids throwing up, that's one thing you can see. For physc it gets more difficult. They don't know in that moment if he's truly disturbed or just attention seeking. Attention seeking isn't a crime in the way he was doing it. (Atleast not the paper he wrote)
These parents are labeled as disconnected parents. We all SEE THEM in our schools,
Thoughts, love and prayers to all involved in this tragedy. Sending love to Justin's family for raising a hero ❤ x.
That school system is about to be taken to task after this case is over with a giant civil lawsuit. Both trials will be bringing to light what that school did wrong & how those people played a role too. Such a horrible situation all around. My heart is with those who lost their loved ones and the children/teachers who have the monumental task of working through their PTSD. ❤️
Get real. None of the other parents were charged in school shootings because they were blind to depression and bullying
I am a hunter as well as my 11 year old. He knows they are my guns period. My guns are one lock in a quality gun safe. If I were to pass good luck getting into it. still triggered locked. I have the ammo in a lock box stored in my work shop..
At least James did call 911
Ethan's journal or manifesto alone shows how helpless he felt.. sadly he didn't reach out to a school counselor etc..Add the gun not properly secured was a recipe for negligent parenting and fatalities.. so many lives forever changed all due to negligence.. so sad 😞 ❤
You need to spend some time looking at Ethan's various writings & communications. He didn't just communicate how 'helpless' he felt. He communicated that he was a sociopath whose greatest pleasure & goal was to inflict harm on the world around him.
He communicated how much he enjoyed torturing a baby bird by drilling thru its head, & how badly he 'needed another baby bird' to torture. He communicated how much he hated & raged at the world, & how much he wanted to punish everyone else for his own anger & loneliness. He meticulously planned to murder children, & took pleasure from the planning & actual murders. He wrote that if he didn't commit a mass murder he'd 'likely become a serial killer'.
There's no doubt his parents were negligent & ignored their son his whole life. But MILLIONS of children are raised in that kind of environment. The problem in this situation is that the Crumbley parents were ignoring a sociopath. The red flags were all there, & these parents chose to ignore them. But make no mistake: Ethan was a sociopath with a plan.
I hesitate to call it a studio, but the set where they did that location shoot with Frazier amused me greatly. The “no” in red (someone thought that was profound 😂), the smudged camera lens, and the mugs no one ever asked for, made for a rich tapestry.
If the shooter was charged as an Adult and not as a minor then is obviously considered he acted as an adult. How come are the parents being also charged when by law the shooter acted, was charged and convicted as an Adult??
The video about this young boy who survived is so tragic! He is afraid to go back to school in two years
So why is Ethan Crumbley in jail and not receiving mental health treatment?
wow
The school needs to be charged as well
Then each school district will be sued for false accusations since many parents do the bare minimum when raising a child. Pitiful.
Why?? They didn’t break any laws!!!!! They were sued civilly as the right action by victims!
Important i feel to remind us that ethan is not a victim of his parents to cause a school shooting.
How did the school call this meeting but never search the kids backpack
Maybe because they didn't have ALL the information. Had the parents said 'we bought him exactly the same gun last week', they probably would have checked.
Did the parents look?
Those parents did not DECLINE to pull Ethan out - they consulted with the school counselor and they made a joint decision. Also you did not report on what the school did a week before the shooting regarding Ethan. Very important information.
Witch Hunt # 2…..
Whatttttt??? The parents broke Michigan laws ya nut! Get educated!
Look, a DV perpetrators from the passed was easy able to get his current girl friend & another friend to call me “crazy” have me taken for 24 hours evaluation, none of those behavioral health people will do the right thing. That man have never been my roommate.
Why they do not help these parents navigate the behavioral health system when the child is definitely a danger to others which is one good reason to have them detained in a clinical setting.
They let everyone get hurt. They tell domestic abusers how to hurt their victims future in behavioral health system but refuse to help get these children help.
Wasting billions on BS BH care!
Is English your 2nd language? If so, write this in your 1st language & we can translate it. I can't understand what you wrote.
@@teri2466 You do not understand what I wrote for reasons unknown.
If you cannot understand what I wrote it is censorship cannot write out the words.
Do some advocacy work in this area then self you will be-able to follow what I wrote.
Part blame to a broken mental health care system
Well if you don’t use it they can’t help. Family was given a list they had the means to get him help even if they had no insurance.
Don't blame the system, blame the parents.
Not making a excuse for Bad Parenting, by no means!??!
He was never entered in that system. They can’t help if persons don’t engage in an evaluation.
Nooooo!!!!! The parents broke Michigan laws period!!!!! They must pay!!!!
Does NewsNation hate men? Who do they only attack the father but not the mom? 🤔
They covered the mom already. It's the father's trial now. Try to keep up
Do you hate facts? The mother’s trial has concluded, the father’s has begun. Don’t look for excuses to be angry.
@@parthenocarpySA😁