DO NOT BUY SIGMAPROBE, JDIAG, DNOSE, TOPDIAG or AUTOOL Before watching this!
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2021
- I know this is a long video but totally worth watching. The results were shocking to me and the test was never expected to outcome this way. I advice you to watch the video to the end as the case develops as the video progresses.
Sigmaprobe review video. - Авто та транспорт
Great video. I have sadly learnt my lesson. I did not experience your issues but what I did find is quality build issues. The first problem was the probe would not output 12V to a bulb to light it. It instead it showed all sorts of odd readings on the display. With testing and checking I decided to open the unit up to see the PCB board. A short had occurred between the output probe (12v) and the PCB board. The relay testing circuit was also very loose which meant that would not work. I asked a friend who is in the PCB manufacturing to have a look and he reported that it was a very poor quality design. This was the Jdiag p200 unit sold as TopDiag P200. The Jdiag P100, which I also owned, has also got PCB design problems as well. My advice is stay well clear of these items as they are poor quality and unreliable.
Excellent video buddy and thank you, I was looking at maybe "updating" my probe to one of those. After seeing your video, I'll stick with what I've got so thanks for stopping me wasting my money 💰 👍
I was looking forward for your opinion honestly. It would have been a great device 🙄
Great video, honest review. Thanks for taking the time to share. Cheers
Thanks for the comment.
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO!! I was just about to pull the trigger on buying one and thought I would check the tube for a real review that wasn't affiliated with it. I'll get the power probe like I was originally going too!! Appreciate this.
Great testing! I thought maybe using two scopes at the same time was affecting the can? But you proved me wrong by using the sigma by itself & showed the difference in communication. Thank you for taking the time to do this. subscribed.
Hopefully the company will see this as an opportunity to improve the product.
Cheers from Geneva Switzerland and luckily there are guys like you on earth ! Otherwise we'd all be on the wrong track. Glory to independence and contradiction. Thanks to have smart dudes like You on Utube.
Although I don't think I deserve all of tbis but thanks man
Thanks for your great work and explaining everything for that item 👍
Glad that it helped
Great video you saved me a lot of money. Thank You
Excellent video, do you have any video recommending a good and cheap multimeter?
Damn nice vid bro!
Awesome job thanks for the information. What Autel unit are you using and what is that model that you use with the external plug in ports
I used the MS919. The other device was CanDo breakout box.
Great Job.... Thank you for your time. Peace!
My pleasure
Just subscribed for the truthful review. Thank you. There are just too many fake reviewers out there. They get free stuff and say how great it is and all.
Thanks. I am so frustrated by those. Even if I get a free tool, I'm gonna use it about a week minimum to review it.
Thank you sir for the information.i actually had this tool on my wish list for next month.that would have been a big waste of money i dont have.thank you again.
The company contacted me and wanted me to try their "upgraded" v2 of tge tool so keep an eye on a new video on my channel.
Will power probe not sell you new cord that I assume would need to be soldered on for like $30 , $40
Спасибо мужик...за честный обзор и отзыв
Hello Dallas Auto Diag. Thank you for your videos. I too bought the same diag tool because of the price. While I'm not a pro, I (try) do my own diag and repairs. I returned it because of the extended circuit breaker time as noted by Super Mario Diagnostics. I really liked the oscilloscope feature so one doesn't need to haul out the full scope and all the cables required. Anyway I noticed you were using the regular bnc lead on the Sigma Probe. Pico Scope uses a specific high impedance cable/bnc probe (TA499) for tapping into Flex Ray and CAN Bus systems that is high impedance so as not to bring the system down. The TA499 is a BNC+ probe, though they have a regular bnc type probe as well. Do you think that is what should be used in your case? Maybe what brought the system down was using non high impedance probes, or maybe just because your are attaching both scopes/probes/regular cables simultaneously? Just a thought. Thanks again for your videos as it definitely helps out DYI's like me everywhere!
Thanks for the replay. Actually I thought of the 2 possibilities that you have mentioned and Im not sure if you have noticed at the end of the video I remove my lead and use their included tip and it gave me same results. I also used it by itself without having 2 scopes on testing. If what you have mentiones makes difference then I think it is SIGMAPROBE obligation to include a can bus compatible lead with the kit.
Thanks again.
@@DallasAutoDiag Right, got it. Thank you.
By the way, I am a sub of Mario channel and he is a great to learn from. I noticed that i have viewed his review on the tool but ironically stopped right before the point where he tested the circuit braker. I definitely wasn't refering to him in my video. I watched many others that spoke highly about the tool and put the stupid thumbs up on the screen.
@@DallasAutoDiag yes yes yes, I agree with everything you've said about people "reviewing" this and MANY other tools on UA-cam (and even other social media platforms). Great job and thanks again for your honest videos.
Excellent video , thanks for your time !! I was going to buy the CMTool same design today I’m pretty sure it’s made by sigma probe then I watched this Vedic 💯
I wouldn't advice to do so.
Thank you for the video, you probably saved me from buying a mistake ! So which probe would you recommend ? I know you gave some recommendations ,are they still them same ?
They are. It all depends on what you want the tool to do to you?
Regarding the cables, I believe the power probe does not have the same amperage capacity as this tool. It's why most of them don't come with a cigarette lighter adapter an have heavier batt connectors.
Man! You know your equipment! I appreciate your knowledge. This is all like left field for me. But i definitely need one of those probes.
I wouldn't buy it
@@DallasAutoDiag Any pointers on which one to buy??
@@kevinwalker7102 I originaly bought this just because it has the scope with the tool. but since the scope failed biig time, what I was left with is just the tool. after returning this I purchased the power probe maestro. it does not have a scope but its a good tool to use. and for the scope part I just kept using my ms919.
@DallasAutoDiag Get info! Appreciate your response. Yea i actually ordered the maestro yesterday! Lol!
Thx, prevented me from buying!
...And then I made it to the end...DAMN, Dude. I Fx with you tough, bro. Keep on being 100! #LastofaDieingBreed. I can't believe... I watched this whole video (I'm working and was just about to order this tool. I needed a real opinion on it because I'm about to post a large order). Kudos, G. You made my night/day and it's 4:42 in the moring!!! -D~Wats
Appreciate the time man. I really liked this tool from other people reviews and i really wanted it to work. But
@Dallas Auto Diag No doubt. It was worth it. You saved me from having to do this myself wasting time and money. Keep pumping, bro.
I bought one of these, it name is smart hook but is the same. I bought it for fuse tester, turn on components. I still using snap-on verus for the scope I personally don't trust in these little devices for oscilloscope because it's be used for quick jobs and sometimes is dropped and wet or leaved on heat or cold temperature Which could couse an internal failure and affect the accuracy in reading.
What model autel are you using to use the scope, and what ad on is that for the scope feature
its the ms919. if you are buying it for the scope feature then I would advice you not to because you will not be able to use this scope with the laptop software. my advice to buy a ms909 and buy autel MP408 independent scope
May I know what is the other tool model number that you are working sir. Is it kind of Autel obd scanner it has in build scope and many other features
Autel ms919
@@DallasAutoDiag thank you sir really appreciate your reply
I feel like the unit you got is producing some sort of a static signal. I got one but it's not giving me the same problem that you got there. The one that produce voltage without even touching anything. However I haven't tried using the oscilloscope in a can high can low setup. BTW I got jdiag.
Sub'd after just the intro. That is exaclty what I've been saying about these mechanics turning into infomercial models. LOL!!!!!!!
Its sad.
The volts you see is called gost voltage by the way can you tell me what oscilloscope are you using? Thanks for your response
thanks for the tip. I use autel MS919
Awesome, thanks.
No problem
Yeah was about to purchase Diag P200 after watching two sigma probe reviews.
Will avoid thanks to this. What OBDII touch screen diagnostic kit were you using? Always buy used cars, My current crop range from 8-20yrs old. I’m UK based btw
It's autel ms919
Thanks for your review of the hook scope P 200. I have canceled my order after viewing your video great job, also you gained a new subscriber👍 we need more people like you to tell the truth🙏🏼👍👌💪
Glad I could help
Thanks for work I was planning on buying one myself I bought 2 power probe on aliexpress first 1 is gates pt150 $55 usd I paid for it too basic for me only 3 functions DC voltage ac voltage ohms and mute 😏 and it doesn't show milli volts like 12.56 it only show 12.5 that's it the second probe is xtuner pt101 this 1 as 5 functions ac/DC voltage diode testing resistance am DC current testing but it didn't send power to the tip I got a refund I recently sold the vgates I was planning on buying p100 a lighter version than yours
What is the input impedance of DNOSE in scope mode. I think it overloads the bus.
Did not measure at that time.
Thank you for this video!! I guess I should have done exactly what you title says... two testers later and they are indeed a steamy pile of poo! Lucky for me, I can return them.... We spend way to much time, money and effort diagnosing systems to have these types of problems. I'm going back to power probe.
did the same here. Bought power probe maestro
thank you man
You're welcome!
I want to buy a bt280 autools i hope they saw your video and fix the problem did they fix the problems am asking
Not that I know of
@@DallasAutoDiag ok kool if u get any update let we know keep on work my friend
When you connected that 3 volts to your network circuits tools, you were putting 3 volts into the system that shouldn’t be there. That’s why it shut down, and you were lucky you didn’t fry them.
Do you mind to tell me What part of the video I did this?
GOOD VIDEO, HOW ELSE WOULD EVERYONE KNOW THE TRUTH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME !!!!!!!
Thanks
Donde esta su taller direccion
Having watched your video twice, I am convinced that this is a cheaply made unit, it cannot be relied upon for accurate results. Thanks for sharing. It appears that it is putting a load on the network thereby causing noise in the signal. The second unit you unboxed was what I would call grossly defective, the give away on that was the constant 2-3 volts, at one time it had a constant 5 volts. That should not happen. I think with proper engineering and good quality components' there is a place in the tool box for this kind of tool, but this one does not meet the threshold for results even though it is a good idea. I hope we will see better working versions of this kind of tool in the future.
Wow. You are thorough. For all the crap they claim it does, that would make it to good to be true. BTW is that the autel 919 scanner?
Thanks. Yes, that's the 919.
I have a video coming titled do not buy the ms919 😁
@@DallasAutoDiag when. I just contacted JB Tools asking about it. Hurry, I need to know. Lol
@@DallasAutoDiag And thank you for replying.
@Robert Weir find my page on fb and contact me via phone to get a briefing
Dude, awesome work from the real world. Thank you for taking the time to do an unbiased review. I guess power probe is worth the money?
I already returned this one and bought the new maestro power probe. Im making a video about it also. I think it might have a hidden use that noone noticed before. Just wish me luck.
@@DallasAutoDiag Definitely looking forward to the review on the maestro. Keep up the great work. Some of us out there really appreciate it.
ua-cam.com/video/WFebdmhrxmY/v-deo.html check out this video. This is the manufacturer of the AESWave Uscope - Miniware DS203, DS201 DS202.
@@4aautodiagnosticsandrepair199
I was looking at these the otger day and was thinking if i buy one and do a video on it as a cheaper alternative to the uscope. The problem is that it is not much cheaper and for the extra money you get automotive kinda software/presets in the uscope. Do you have one of these? Am i right or wrong?
@@DallasAutoDiag I do not have one yet just researching like you. I think this would be a great video that many would be interested in. The pricing on Amazon and other sources are not the greatest but they can be purchased through Ali Express and banggood at a more reasonable price from china direct. I’m not convinced that the presets are all that valuable.
Hook: What is the purpose of the rubber hook to the left of the unit?
They tried to copy the original power probe hook.
@@DallasAutoDiag Does it have a test function?
Muchas GRACIAS por compartir tu experiencia, me ayudó a decidirme por un Power probé
Thank you
como referencia el osiloscopio esta bien aguanta comoquiera por el precio no esta mal un equipo profecional cuesta buena feria
sorry no spanish
Goodafternoon bro i am working on land rover freelander 2005 with no spark no injector pulse change crank sensor and Cam as well still no spark no injector pulse
Do the control signals for coils and injectors show straight off ecm? Are the crank sensor and cam sensor signals reaching ecm?
@@fjb666 yea you getting signal to ecu on both with square wave signal
I even do a continuity with my multimeter on both wire to ecu just to make sure no broken wire
I looked at the meter and it has more features than I need. I would recommend that you buy the simple version of this meter to perform the basic tests you need.
Buy a higher quality scope that has probes you can adjust. 90 percent of the time you don't need a scope.
good recommendation
@@DallasAutoDiag Keep the great videos coming! After I finish 3d printing a toe gauge for setting the toe on the van I hope to watch more of your videos. I have been buying scan tools and tools for car diagnostics. I am self learning automotive troubleshooting skills.
@@stevegorkowski3246 thanks and good luck. a video is coming soon today.
Used pico for 8 or so years now , this looks like another junk probe maybe they should rename it .
Thanks for an honest review.
Pico is the best but its always good to have something small and quick to set up like the uscope.
exselente dianostic tec
que se le puede creer a alguien que usa como escaner un euclelia en ves de usar autel o launch
Sorry no Spanish
Uscope Alternative Miniware DS203
Tengo un ford focus y tiene tcm dañado
Hey buddy whats the best obd break out box ?
If you just want something to use on the car then all works depend on how much u wanna spend. I use the CanDo. I also have the GoDiag bob because It allows me to power modules on the bench. Im gonna make a video soon on those with good information.
@@DallasAutoDiag 🙏 thank you brother, what else do you have tools to save time on doagnostics and accuracy. If you can guide me with good info plz. One more thing about the obd break out box I was looking at one with l.e.d light little flash light on the conertor for obd 2 port
@@garciagarcias3982
Share the link let me see
Power Probe came out with a good breakout box a few years ago.
Joe's Auto Electric has a video demonstrating it.
ua-cam.com/video/2ngG1Eglgnk/v-deo.html
Just found this short demonstration. It appears that it has been out for at three years, designed in the UK & sold by Power Probe & branded Blue Point on the Snappy trucks & possibly branded in the Matco catalogue.
The magnetic pins/ probes were UK as well but may be available here now as well.
ua-cam.com/video/_2c9LNX617k/v-deo.html
@@garciagarcias3982 ua-cam.com/video/_2c9LNX617k/v-deo.html
what is about BT280 ?
Can you post the link for the product here?
esos son osciloscopio de un canal solo para hacer una revision superficial, no un diagnostico completo, para eso estan los de dos canales hacia adelante que atraso con este neofito
Maybe a revised update firmware would fix this?
I don't believe it's a software issue. I believe it's a hardware issue
U can mute it in setting got mine off eBay jdiag for like 120 it’s very handy I almost never use my pp3
this unit was adverticed and priced as it can read CAN BUS signal. It does not.
im glad i didnt buy it for the oscilloscope (had a feeling it is crap). I just want to use mainly for supplying power and ground and relay test. thanks for the video. will stay away from oscilloscope.
Them Kia Boyz got a hold of that car. I bet they didn't know how to remove IMMO and just started breaking stuff until the car started or they knew a specific way. I feel like this came out before the wave of thefts.
im sure Kia boys founout from family members vehicles first before it turned to bad situation
I thinking bout buying one of those although not very convinced… I had ppII gave it to my brother… then got ppIII and loved it still have. Then bought ppIV lasted over a year went bad contacted PP and they said it was about the same price to fix it than to buy a new one, so I did and this one lasted about 3 months and went bad. I also have a ppHook and I am scared to use it because I got it when they costed about $500 so I just use the PPIII all this “features” they want to implement to this testers make them very weak or just bad products. I wouldn’t buy another PP product because their quality has gone to the toilet. Great video I just use my Snapon versus or my 8 channel ATS eScope. It takes more time but you know you are getting the best results,it sucks for you mobile guys because time is money but then again you get side tracked by one of those Chinese cheap tester it will be more painful and costly. I don’t mind paying for a good tool When the good tool does what it supposed. Stay away from power probe unless you are just powering a light bulb or cooling fan. Have a nice day!!!
Man you are %100 correct. Its too late for me now cuz I already bought the pp maestro.
Me to power probe 4 didn't last a year got another one on warranty didn't last power probe 3 has been good
Where did you got you can do obd2 aid box? I’ll apréciate tour response and thank you for the presentation
i bought from amazon
What probe DO i get? I need a good one asap and dont mind spending a bit more for one thats reliable and may have more features... im thinking the ones with the oscilloscopes are barely functional
After this video I bought the power probe maestro. It doesn't have scope but i think it's the best now out there.
@@DallasAutoDiag yes i think a dedicated scope would be much more useable
@@plowmaster1206 thats what im gonna do.
@@DallasAutoDiag Have you tried the hook or the 4? I was looking at the Maestro... Then I saw the Hook. It's starting to look like I will be buying a couple and trying them out.
Hey boss man on a break out box laignal ground 5 not there what can i check?
I am sorry to ask one more abut your tools again if you don't mind let me know what is the exactly break out box that your using right there.
a.co/d/7xZ6aGQ
Thanks
buenos dias. Muy malo el sonido. entre otros parámetros el volumen
sorry no spanish
My Power Probe 4 broke the cable right at the plug, where the clips attach. I soldered in a cigarett lighter plug and used a power adapter for the battery. Now I can use it inside the car and outside the car. I couldn't get PP to fix it and PP wouldn't sell me a new cable. It works again!
I had a PP3 did the same exact thing. Then had the maestro which started going 3v off. PP sent me a new one. Now the new one is doing the same exact thing that you mentioned. Lucky I got one more month for the warranty.
Yours was bad. Like racing a horse with broken leg, painful to watch. I bought TopDiag about a year ago and the features work, but there is no warm feeling of holding a fluke when you pick it up. I don't know what they claim the bandwidth of their scope is, but CAN FD is up to 5mbits. They have very little published specs. Thanks for showing how bad these can be, but you at a higher level that diyers.
I didn't know that topdon has a similar device.
Power probe is the only one to buy on top of a pico and a lap top
Agree
Hello, great video, and you saved me $170. I noticed your scope is an Autel, can you tell me which model?
This is the Autel maxisys ms919. Im gonna have a video soon about it. Not good so far.
@@DallasAutoDiag Ok, thank you! let me know which bi-directional diagnostic tool you've had good luck with, other than Snap-on. I will be in the market for one soon.
This is a good device for DIY and intermediate diagnostic
Not really. Watch the video
I got one recently on eBay. I used it once, I don’t like it, too big can’t go in thigh places. Try to return it but return window is closed. I am selling if someone interested 😂.
Wrong place to sell 😆
😂
Item needs 12v... run a boggo wire from battery + with a pokey bit soldered onto the end.. poke item.. voila - 12v.. Item needs 5V.. buy a cheap variable power supply.. set it to 5v.. poke item.. Item needs a good ground... run wire from battery - & solder a pokey bit onto the end - voila, ground probe... For everything else, buy a really posh multimeter - I like Fluke. Also buy a test lamp with a bulb. They're handy.
There's no end to buying tools - usually you're the most crucial tool - the better you sharpen yourself, the less crappy tools you need buy. Sharpen yourself - it's free.
Maybe
Nice toy I might pick one up
I think you missed the point
You might find a use for this tool. It is powered by a rechargeable battery or 3 AAA . It can decode the can bus or display wave form one at a time. The input impedance is 3 Megohms so it shouldn't load the circuit too much. ua-cam.com/video/UALTOECcjkI/v-deo.html They are not giving me anything to recommend it. I think it is useful even if you have a Pico scope.
Hi i brought one of those probes I am not overly happy with is as the tool will provide power to the tip I set a email to sigmaprobe about a month ago but still not had a reply so thay after service is not good
Return it and get the power probe maestro
@@DallasAutoDiag okay will do
@@DallasAutoDiag hi dose the power probe meastro have a scope feacher
@@johnthake7401 man i wish it deos. Altbough sometimes i use the graf part of the ac voltage to view can activity. Not a prety signal but its something.
for this price you can get a real 100% osciloscope.that you now.
True
@@DallasAutoDiag Witz new Update it Shows now Power as need.
@@waldemarfechtel1644 which update?
@@DallasAutoDiag you can make Firmware Update in this Tools
@@waldemarfechtel1644 I don't think its a firmware issue. Its a hardware problem.
The reason you guys are having issues with sigmaprobe is because you are not buying actual sigmaprobe brand diagnostic tools you are buying cheap knockoffs if you want to enjoy the true benefit of having the ultimate diagnostic tool buy directly from there website plus it comes with a one year warranty
this is funny. did you see how I bought from their main store on amazon?
It’s 2 different company name and different price u should compare the original and give us the result don’t test the after market one and tell us the original not good it’s not fear
Well, that just tells me that you did not watch the whole video.
Didnt you pay attention?
Bro who has an hour for you to tell us why not to buy a hundred dollar tool. Come on man shortened it up get to the point why is it trash
It's not the money you spend on it. It's the effect it does on cars. Don't watch this video. Just buy and use the tool :)
Thanks, I will put the cash I saved into a power probe as I first intended.
Problematic is unreliable and for test equipment it just cannot be.
Great point!