Was a horn player in late elementary through early uni. First French horn (after Eb alto) was very unusual instrument. Was very old in about 1960 and no idea how old. Make unknown. Piston valves and tuning slides that allowed playing from F to D (as I recall) with "hash marks" on all the valve slides as well as main tuning slides. Was really heavy. Would have made a good addition to your wall of many things.
Always enjoy seeing the G bugles. DCI switched from 2 valve G to 3 valve G starting in 1990. If I remember correctly, it was a phased change. Corps could choose one section plus contras the first year. Some chose soprano and contra, others baritone/euphonium and contra. Not sure if anyone did mid-range and contra that first year. By 1992 or 1993, the lines would be completely 3 valve (though contras were allowed to be 4 valve). In 2000, the rules changed again and they no longer had to use G bugles. Bb and F instruments were allowed. At this point, only a handful of corps still march G bugles. The rules have morphed so much over the years that you'll now see electronics and other instruments not normally seen in marching competition before. It's a bit odd that they still use the name "drum & bugle corps" since they rarely have bugles. The Commandants Own Drum & Bugle Corps was until 2021 or 2022, perhaps the last corps still using 2 valved G bugles. They finally made the switch to 3 valved G bugles. Though for part of the first season with them, they still were using 2 valve mellophones due to problems implementing the 3 valve instruments.
Yea it was quite strange. Blue Devils had their Sops switch to three valve Kanstuls in the early 90’s while the rest of the Hornline was still on the two valved Kings or the Frankensteined Flugel Bugle, I never saw the point of that.
@Simeon Ceu if I recall, the point was cost. They were trying to spread it out. Blue Devils probably could have done it all at once. But there were many corps that probably couldn't. To encourage the change, they spread it out. Also could have been viewed as a perceived competitive advantage. Keep the "haves" from switching while the "have nots" struggled to keep up. Though I'm not too sure about that. Star of Indiana elected to not switch at all. There's an article out there about the evolution of the bugle that offers some details.
About that reverse slide mechanism on the Soprano Bugle These old two-valves couldn’t play many notes because the lack of the third valve. This includes the high Ab (Concert Eb). This high Ab *could* be used by playing it with the first valve, but since it was in the seventh harmonic, it was a very flat note. What they decided to do is they would make it so the first valve slide pushed *out* is in tune, and you would push the slide in to make that one high Ab in tune so it would be usable. This was a feature on every two valved G Bugle minus the Piston Rotor horns. G Contrabass Bugles also had this problem with not being able to hit that note. What some manufacturers did to fix this problem was to add a very long slide to the bugle that would be activated by the left hand. With the slide fully extended, this would add enough tuning to play the Ab (concert Eb) with both valves depressed.
I hope to one day have a collection as magnificent as yours. At the moment I have two Horns (Holton Farkas 179 and Dieter Otto 205 Weimar Berlin), a 1910s Rotary Trumpet by Frist Horst, an old Conn tenor trombone, an 1890’s Lidl Bb/A flugelhorn, an original Ernst David Kuhlohorn, a BerkeleyWinds Natural Horn with crooks in A, G, F, Eb and D (plus a Minor 3rd Coupler I had built for it… also I had the lacquer stripped), an EF Durand Wagner Tuba, two WW1 Bugles, a modern Blessing bell-front Mellophone, a 1960s Reynolds F/Eb bell-rear Mellophone, a pub wall horn, some animal horns (two from rams, one from a bull and one from a kudu), a piano, a keyboard, some bells, an ocarina and two soprano recorders.
Didn’t know you had acquired a three valve Dynasty flugel bugle, that’s very cool. I don’t think very many drum and bugle corps used those in the 1990s…. maybe Glassmen at some point?
Stan Kenton was always way ahead of his time, with his willingness to try new sounds and experiment with brasses. It makes perfect sense that he would concoct an atrocity like the mellophone.
@@ferretyluv probably. Since I am a poster child knuckle dragging tuba player, such subtle nuances evade me entirely. I'll go with mellophonium. Why not?
I live in the USA but I really want either the six valve trumpet or the mini trumpet I think it is called.but I don't think I could pay enough to to be of any point.i am fifteen years old and a trumpet player
“If you’re a fan of elongated nipples.” lol underrated comment. What I don’t understand about brass players is you can handle instruments with different tunings and play them. I grew up playing C flute and when I was handed an Irish flute everything was wrong! I couldn’t play it. It was in B or D or something and just unplayable for me.
It would be a shame to sell off part of your collection just to gain some space. All you need is a ceiling, floor, shelves, chairs, sofas, counters, window sills and other surfaces of many things.
what if you did a full cover of a piece using all of the instruments from your wall?
That would be awesome
@@ianmintz12806especially with the ones that sound awful
@@hawks1ishworlds cheapest cornet?
@@Euphonium_boi pbone?
I have always loved your humor!
There may have been a good deal of alcohol and/or controlled substances involved in the design of that double horn. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Was a horn player in late elementary through early uni. First French horn (after Eb alto) was very unusual instrument. Was very old in about 1960 and no idea how old. Make unknown. Piston valves and tuning slides that allowed playing from F to D (as I recall) with "hash marks" on all the valve slides as well as main tuning slides. Was really heavy. Would have made a good addition to your wall of many things.
I am convinced this is the best UA-camr out there!
Thank you for all your videos! They have been informative and inspirational.
Holy s*** I have the same amati baritone horn, bought directly in Czech Republic a few years ago. And I mean the _exact_ same.
DEG/Dynasty is an offshoot of the Getzen company (brother or son of the other, if I recall).
Thanks for the warning on the slide sax. I'll be sure to miss that one.
Always enjoy seeing the G bugles.
DCI switched from 2 valve G to 3 valve G starting in 1990. If I remember correctly, it was a phased change. Corps could choose one section plus contras the first year. Some chose soprano and contra, others baritone/euphonium and contra. Not sure if anyone did mid-range and contra that first year. By 1992 or 1993, the lines would be completely 3 valve (though contras were allowed to be 4 valve). In 2000, the rules changed again and they no longer had to use G bugles. Bb and F instruments were allowed. At this point, only a handful of corps still march G bugles. The rules have morphed so much over the years that you'll now see electronics and other instruments not normally seen in marching competition before. It's a bit odd that they still use the name "drum & bugle corps" since they rarely have bugles.
The Commandants Own Drum & Bugle Corps was until 2021 or 2022, perhaps the last corps still using 2 valved G bugles. They finally made the switch to 3 valved G bugles. Though for part of the first season with them, they still were using 2 valve mellophones due to problems implementing the 3 valve instruments.
Yea it was quite strange. Blue Devils had their Sops switch to three valve Kanstuls in the early 90’s while the rest of the Hornline was still on the two valved Kings or the Frankensteined Flugel Bugle, I never saw the point of that.
@Simeon Ceu if I recall, the point was cost. They were trying to spread it out. Blue Devils probably could have done it all at once. But there were many corps that probably couldn't. To encourage the change, they spread it out. Also could have been viewed as a perceived competitive advantage. Keep the "haves" from switching while the "have nots" struggled to keep up. Though I'm not too sure about that. Star of Indiana elected to not switch at all.
There's an article out there about the evolution of the bugle that offers some details.
If it has three valves, it’s not a bugle anymore. It’s just a trumpet.
About that reverse slide mechanism on the Soprano Bugle
These old two-valves couldn’t play many notes because the lack of the third valve. This includes the high Ab (Concert Eb). This high Ab *could* be used by playing it with the first valve, but since it was in the seventh harmonic, it was a very flat note. What they decided to do is they would make it so the first valve slide pushed *out* is in tune, and you would push the slide in to make that one high Ab in tune so it would be usable. This was a feature on every two valved G Bugle minus the Piston Rotor horns.
G Contrabass Bugles also had this problem with not being able to hit that note. What some manufacturers did to fix this problem was to add a very long slide to the bugle that would be activated by the left hand. With the slide fully extended, this would add enough tuning to play the Ab (concert Eb) with both valves depressed.
I've also seen changing the tuning slides to cut out a loop of tubing: It was used to change a french horn from Eb to F
I hope to one day have a collection as magnificent as yours. At the moment I have two Horns (Holton Farkas 179 and Dieter Otto 205 Weimar Berlin), a 1910s Rotary Trumpet by Frist Horst, an old Conn tenor trombone, an 1890’s Lidl Bb/A flugelhorn, an original Ernst David Kuhlohorn, a BerkeleyWinds Natural Horn with crooks in A, G, F, Eb and D (plus a Minor 3rd Coupler I had built for it… also I had the lacquer stripped), an EF Durand Wagner Tuba, two WW1 Bugles, a modern Blessing bell-front Mellophone, a 1960s Reynolds F/Eb bell-rear Mellophone, a pub wall horn, some animal horns (two from rams, one from a bull and one from a kudu), a piano, a keyboard, some bells, an ocarina and two soprano recorders.
Bell rear mellophone???
@@dumpicus_maximus Looks like a common single F Horn but with piston valves and takes a Trumpet(ish) mouthpiece
@@roughshodbrass Do you mean a concert mellophone?
@@dumpicus_maximus Yes.
So very sorry for your injury
Didn’t know you had acquired a three valve Dynasty flugel bugle, that’s very cool. I don’t think very many drum and bugle corps used those in the 1990s…. maybe Glassmen at some point?
Stan Kenton was always way ahead of his time, with his willingness to try new sounds and experiment with brasses. It makes perfect sense that he would concoct an atrocity like the mellophone.
Luckily companies like King and Yamaha made a lot of improvements to the design, modern Yamaha mellophones are quite nice to play.
@@skraegorn7317 of course I am being facetious; my university band featured a mellophone section and they were awesome.
Do you mean mellophonium?
@@ferretyluv probably. Since I am a poster child knuckle dragging tuba player, such subtle nuances evade me entirely. I'll go with mellophonium. Why not?
There are indeed many things on this wall
Your knowledge is amazing. Wondered it you could date a Sterling Tenor Horn i own?
I live in the USA but I really want either the six valve trumpet or the mini trumpet I think it is called.but I don't think I could pay enough to to be of any point.i am fifteen years old and a trumpet player
I really want Trent to see this
The six valve trumpet doesn't really work :(
@@TrentHamilton ok it's still kind of cool
But that mini trumpet would be cool
The Eb Trumpet Brand Is King
Hurray for the live streams!
I’ll take the trombonium
Oh my god you’ve got an old F trumpet!!!!
“If you’re a fan of elongated nipples.” lol underrated comment.
What I don’t understand about brass players is you can handle instruments with different tunings and play them. I grew up playing C flute and when I was handed an Irish flute everything was wrong! I couldn’t play it. It was in B or D or something and just unplayable for me.
Brilliant video
What is the model and brand of your bass trombone?
I have a King 7B and a Bach 50
@@TrentHamilton Which one do you prefer? Looking to get one for myself and to leave to my grandson.
It would be a shame to sell off part of your collection just to gain some space. All you need is a ceiling, floor, shelves, chairs, sofas, counters, window sills and other surfaces of many things.
The ceiling is an underrated storage and display space. Hang them from the ceiling.
1 hour 20 minutes
Yup sounds about right
I’ll buy your piccolo trombone if you’re interested
If you throw away your bari sax can I have it?
I’ll buy the wall for get this 1.1$
Great deal
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Next time play them pweez
You should show us what you’re drinking, you might generate a sponsorship.