Very good video discussion. Old mony seems to me to be an awareness of tradition, upbringing and good manners. New money has an excitement factor with possibilities always quite open, especially colors, patterns and combinations. Nothing to get hung up about either way. Personal style evolves.
Good video, as always. I feel like 'old money' is rather a lifestyle or a representation of 'real old money'. Ultimately, a more elegant way to present yourself than with flashy logos. Quiet Luxury, on the other hand, is much more an attitude, or a statement, against the consumption of fast fashion and a celebration of good products.
Brilliant video! This was spot on throughout, as someone who leans heavily into the Ivy League/preppy look, I think it’s worth differentiating between Preppy and Ivy League looks as though similar, they’re not the same!
A lot of quiet luxury looks are essentially elevated athleisure, more fitted and less baggy, and made from conspicuously expensive materials, for example: cashmere track suits. Old money is a little more formal, more business or business casual attire, and covers fabrics which may be expensive today but were once worn across social classes, for example: a tweed sport coat. Individual Preppy and Ivy items tend to work well in an old money look, but a full Preppy or Ivy look is more traditional or classic menswear than Old Money. The former are what old money wore in the past, while Old Money style is what you would imagine old money people wearing today - think billionaires and nobility at the Monaco Yacht Show.
Good video! I like your views on this topic and I think as a 19 year old which I am could benefit from someone like you that can be a role-model for me fashion wise!!!! Hope to see lots more content very soon! :)
Thank you, Nicklas :) I appreciate that. Awesome to hear that you want to dress more classy at 19 years old. Keep up the good work 👌 I definitely did not dress well at 19 😅 Just started 2 years ago and still got lots to learn myself :)
@@Lukas_Schanderl Hey thank you so much for responding! Well I don't like being in a generation of nike tech/air and adidas clothes. I live in Sweden and well. Teens just doesn't dress up over here at all. I wanna give a serious impression and I think elegance and classiness wether it's quiet luxury or old money is the way to go! ) Keep up the good work and just know that you've earned a subscriber today!
Thank you, Nicklas. I think it's all over the world now, except for some parts of Asia and maybe some parts of Southern Europe that people dress very casually (to put it nicely). Great to hear that you want to dress classy. How is the second hand market in Sweden? There must be lots of great vintage pieces I assume?
@@Lukas_Schanderl Hey again Lukas! In Stockholm where I live you can find a bunch of second hand stores with lots of classy pieces! I was actually in a store yesterday and found a Loro Piana jacket for around 1800 EUR instead of 5000+ EUR which was the retail price. Ofcource thats still very expensive and I can't justify buying something like that so I didn't buy it but it's great knowing that you can get some nice deals out there! Also, I have a video suggestion! Since I'm young. Would you every consider making a video about how younger people like ages 15-25 can stand out of the masses and dress more mature but still not be looking too out of place since we are in our youth. Maybe this was a strange idea but I know many of my friends who are 18-19 struggle with dressing up more classy cause they always feel like older men when they try to. So to put it simply: How do teens and young adults dress classy without losing our youthful vibe? Thanks //Nicklas
That's fantastic :) I know what you mean 😁 Great deal, but still way too pricey for me to justify. Did you find any good sports jackets there? Thanks for the suggestion :) That's a great idea. I planned to do a video on how to dress classy at university without standing out too much. Would that be interesting to you?
I think what many get wrong about old money is not talking about vintage pieces, clothing would have been handed down (think worn in Oxford shirts and Shetland sweaters) whereas quiet luxury HAS to be expensive from high end brands, can you imitate it with Uniqlo and other cheaper brands , yes, but that is not luxury.
Very interesting- thank you for sharing these insights! I tend to think more about the similarities between the two phrases, but there are clear differences that I knew but hadn't processed really. I tend to a blend of the two in what I consider to be "understated classic menswear". I'm a bit more formal than quiet luxury, but tend to do less colour and pattern than old money. So I sit somewhere in between :).
@@Lukas_Schanderl Thank you! My style certainly works for me- I think the main thing is to find things that work for you and your life, and build your style from that. I also think your style evolves over time. And mine is understated so I'm not drawing a lot of attention to myself (I'm a comms person, so my job is to make other people shine, not myself), but is also professional and classic enough for my work which can often be in UN or other high level meetings. It needs to be able to work for visits to refugee camps and humanitarian responses, too. So quite the range :).
Thanks for elaborating. Sounds like you found the right balance :) I totally agree. It would be nice to be always dressed up, but it's not always the most practical choice, like in your case the refugee camps or even on a smaller level, when I need to go to a bad part of town and I don't want to stand out too much :D
@@Lukas_Schanderl I agree. I prefer to be dressed more nicely, but I always try to dress appropriately, and that means wearing different things than my preference at times. Even when I'm not travelling for work, there are plenty of times that I'm dressed much more casually than I would choose because it's what's appropriate for the situation I will be in, whether that's doing housework, exercising, or going out with friends who will all be in t-shirts and jeans, and a suit and tie would be wildly different. :)
The main divergence of the old money look seems to keep coming back to the more colourful preppy look. If you categorized the preppy look separately then it seems the differences between OM and QL would be minimal. It would also be interesting to look at proportions and design elements such as waist height on trousers., lapel styles, pleats, etc.
Thanks for watching. I have a video on quiet luxury brands and even though a lot of them are quite expensive, they are easy to find on the second hand market. ua-cam.com/video/b0S8EvCB0uo/v-deo.html I also have the same list as a blog article, so it's easier to just click on each brand: www.lukas-schanderl.com/blog/the-best-quiet-luxury-brands-for-men
In America, preppy and Ivy League looks are the same thing. Ivy is just a subset of preppy. Also, the colors one sees in mens preppy looks were often associated with their schools, colleges, or family traditions.
Because my style taste as been mostly formed from shopping at Brooks Brothers, I often dress in a more preppy/ivy style manner. Now that I am doctoral student in Belgium I'm interested in incorporating elements of French Ivy. If you have any tips on French Ivy, I would enjoy hearing them. Where "Old Money Styles" seems to diverge from preppy/ivy styles is during warm weather. I wear some linen but I prefer seersucker, madras, and other clothing made from cotton in pastel colors. You might enjoy this discussion of Ivy Style by a panel that includes the biographer of Ralph Lauren and the ex-CEO J. Press. ua-cam.com/video/nYJ-_Hdkrxk/v-deo.html
Thank you, Matthew. I have to look into French Ivy. Sounds interesting. Do you also wear full seersucker suits? Thanks for sharing the panel. I'll watch it tonight :)
Rather rhan buying clothes buy good quality fabrics & find a tailor who is genuinely good. You do not need any other style. Trust me when I say this, wealthy people has the true minimalist wardrobe. Quality over quantity
Thank you, Jean-Marc. It's definitely an area I am trying to improve 😅 Already speaking a bit slower than in my last video, but it's still a bit too fast.
➡The Best Quiet Luxury Brands (Full List) ua-cam.com/video/b0S8EvCB0uo/v-deo.htmlsi=tMXoXh9WfQVyW3JL
Quiet luxury is more trendy, old money more vintage, therefore I like old money more but both styles are good.
Thanks for watching :)
I also like the vintage feeling of old money style
Very good video discussion. Old mony seems to me to be an awareness of tradition, upbringing and good manners. New money has an excitement factor with possibilities always quite open, especially colors, patterns and combinations. Nothing to get hung up about either way. Personal style evolves.
Thanks for watching, William.
Great points, especially about not getting too hung up with the whole idea.
Good video, as always. I feel like 'old money' is rather a lifestyle or a representation of 'real old money'. Ultimately, a more elegant way to present yourself than with flashy logos. Quiet Luxury, on the other hand, is much more an attitude, or a statement, against the consumption of fast fashion and a celebration of good products.
Thank you, Timo.
You summed them both up perfectly 👌
Great point
Yes, I think this is true as well.
I go for both
Can't go wrong with either of them :) Both look great.
Thank you for watching
Great video ,now i know the difference between the both, gained a new subscriber
Thank you, Mali :)
Excellent advice as always . Lukas you’re very GQ 👍😜❤️🇨🇦
Thank you so much, Florencio :) Appreciate it.
Have a great weekend ahead
I personally like quite luxury more than old money style. Love your video!
Thanks for watching.
Same for me :) I like both styles but I find quiet luxury more convenient.
Brilliant video! This was spot on throughout, as someone who leans heavily into the Ivy League/preppy look, I think it’s worth differentiating between Preppy and Ivy League looks as though similar, they’re not the same!
Thank you :)
Great point. How would you describe the differences between the 2 looks in your opinion?
A lot of quiet luxury looks are essentially elevated athleisure, more fitted and less baggy, and made from conspicuously expensive materials, for example: cashmere track suits. Old money is a little more formal, more business or business casual attire, and covers fabrics which may be expensive today but were once worn across social classes, for example: a tweed sport coat. Individual Preppy and Ivy items tend to work well in an old money look, but a full Preppy or Ivy look is more traditional or classic menswear than Old Money. The former are what old money wore in the past, while Old Money style is what you would imagine old money people wearing today - think billionaires and nobility at the Monaco Yacht Show.
Thank you for your comment, Dennis.
Great explanation on the nuances between the styles.
My new favorite Chanel !
Thank you so much :)
I really appreciate that.
Good video! I like your views on this topic and I think as a 19 year old which I am could benefit from someone like you that can be a role-model for me fashion wise!!!! Hope to see lots more content very soon! :)
Thank you, Nicklas :) I appreciate that.
Awesome to hear that you want to dress more classy at 19 years old. Keep up the good work 👌
I definitely did not dress well at 19 😅 Just started 2 years ago and still got lots to learn myself :)
@@Lukas_Schanderl Hey thank you so much for responding! Well I don't like being in a generation of nike tech/air and adidas clothes. I live in Sweden and well. Teens just doesn't dress up over here at all. I wanna give a serious impression and I think elegance and classiness wether it's quiet luxury or old money is the way to go! ) Keep up the good work and just know that you've earned a subscriber today!
Thank you, Nicklas.
I think it's all over the world now, except for some parts of Asia and maybe some parts of Southern Europe that people dress very casually (to put it nicely).
Great to hear that you want to dress classy. How is the second hand market in Sweden? There must be lots of great vintage pieces I assume?
@@Lukas_Schanderl Hey again Lukas!
In Stockholm where I live you can find a bunch of second hand stores with lots of classy pieces! I was actually in a store yesterday and found a Loro Piana jacket for around 1800 EUR instead of 5000+ EUR which was the retail price. Ofcource thats still very expensive and I can't justify buying something like that so I didn't buy it but it's great knowing that you can get some nice deals out there!
Also, I have a video suggestion! Since I'm young. Would you every consider making a video about how younger people like ages 15-25 can stand out of the masses and dress more mature but still not be looking too out of place since we are in our youth. Maybe this was a strange idea but I know many of my friends who are 18-19 struggle with dressing up more classy cause they always feel like older men when they try to. So to put it simply: How do teens and young adults dress classy without losing our youthful vibe? Thanks //Nicklas
That's fantastic :)
I know what you mean 😁 Great deal, but still way too pricey for me to justify.
Did you find any good sports jackets there?
Thanks for the suggestion :) That's a great idea.
I planned to do a video on how to dress classy at university without standing out too much.
Would that be interesting to you?
I think what many get wrong about old money is not talking about vintage pieces, clothing would have been handed down (think worn in Oxford shirts and Shetland sweaters)
whereas quiet luxury HAS to be expensive from high end brands, can you imitate it with Uniqlo and other cheaper brands , yes, but that is not luxury.
Great point.
You're right. When it's truly vintage, old money style looks more authentic and if it's truly luxury, quiet luxury as well.
Very interesting- thank you for sharing these insights! I tend to think more about the similarities between the two phrases, but there are clear differences that I knew but hadn't processed really. I tend to a blend of the two in what I consider to be "understated classic menswear". I'm a bit more formal than quiet luxury, but tend to do less colour and pattern than old money. So I sit somewhere in between :).
Thank you, Simon :)
Glad you liked it.
I like your style. Very classy.
Definitely a good choice to create a blend of different influences.
@@Lukas_Schanderl Thank you! My style certainly works for me- I think the main thing is to find things that work for you and your life, and build your style from that. I also think your style evolves over time. And mine is understated so I'm not drawing a lot of attention to myself (I'm a comms person, so my job is to make other people shine, not myself), but is also professional and classic enough for my work which can often be in UN or other high level meetings. It needs to be able to work for visits to refugee camps and humanitarian responses, too. So quite the range :).
Thanks for elaborating.
Sounds like you found the right balance :)
I totally agree. It would be nice to be always dressed up, but it's not always the most practical choice, like in your case the refugee camps or even on a smaller level, when I need to go to a bad part of town and I don't want to stand out too much :D
@@Lukas_Schanderl I agree. I prefer to be dressed more nicely, but I always try to dress appropriately, and that means wearing different things than my preference at times. Even when I'm not travelling for work, there are plenty of times that I'm dressed much more casually than I would choose because it's what's appropriate for the situation I will be in, whether that's doing housework, exercising, or going out with friends who will all be in t-shirts and jeans, and a suit and tie would be wildly different. :)
That makes a lot of sense :)
Totally agree on that.
The main divergence of the old money look seems to keep coming back to the more colourful preppy look. If you categorized the preppy look separately then it seems the differences between OM and QL would be minimal. It would also be interesting to look at proportions and design elements such as waist height on trousers., lapel styles, pleats, etc.
Thank you That's a great point.
The preppy look seems to be a bit of an outlier.
Good idea to add more metrics like lapel style, trouser height etc.
Can you do a video covering old money and quiet luxury brands at various price points?
Thanks for watching.
I have a video on quiet luxury brands and even though a lot of them are quite expensive, they are easy to find on the second hand market.
ua-cam.com/video/b0S8EvCB0uo/v-deo.html
I also have the same list as a blog article, so it's easier to just click on each brand:
www.lukas-schanderl.com/blog/the-best-quiet-luxury-brands-for-men
@@Lukas_Schanderl good stuff, thanks
Great video! Just one question. do Italian style and English country look belong to preppy? or I skip smth? 😅
Thanks for watching :) I'd say they are different categories. I just group them together as different old money styles.
@@Lukas_Schanderl Thanks
My wardrobe is old money/preppy. It suits me well.
Always a great look :) Thank you for watching, John
I think I am abit both old money and quiet styles of clothing. Whatever exact term it may be I prefer simple and comfortable attires.
In America, preppy and Ivy League looks are the same thing. Ivy is just a subset of preppy. Also, the colors one sees in mens preppy looks were often associated with their schools, colleges, or family traditions.
Thanks for your explanation, Cooper :) Appreciate it.
Thanks 😊
Thank you, Daniel :)
Because my style taste as been mostly formed from shopping at Brooks Brothers, I often dress in a more preppy/ivy style manner. Now that I am doctoral student in Belgium I'm interested in incorporating elements of French Ivy. If you have any tips on French Ivy, I would enjoy hearing them. Where "Old Money Styles" seems to diverge from preppy/ivy styles is during warm weather. I wear some linen but I prefer seersucker, madras, and other clothing made from cotton in pastel colors. You might enjoy this discussion of Ivy Style by a panel that includes the biographer of Ralph Lauren and the ex-CEO J. Press. ua-cam.com/video/nYJ-_Hdkrxk/v-deo.html
Thank you, Matthew.
I have to look into French Ivy.
Sounds interesting.
Do you also wear full seersucker suits?
Thanks for sharing the panel.
I'll watch it tonight :)
You're welcome, I don't have a seersucker suit, maybe someday, but I do have a madras sport coat.@@Lukas_Schanderl
I bet you're the best dressed person in your class?
Rather rhan buying clothes buy good quality fabrics & find a tailor who is genuinely good. You do not need any other style. Trust me when I say this, wealthy people has the true minimalist wardrobe.
Quality over quantity
Unfortunately 90% of the time I’m at work so I dress like a pimp 🕺🏼
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This is not a criticism; but, we are in the TWENTY FIRST century 😊
Great point 😅 I always notice a slip of the tongue after recording 😅
😊❤🎉💯🙏.
Thank you, Sean :)
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Thank you, Ethan :)
I don't think Gucci at all Preppy, so woulda skipped that one and focus on first two.
Uniqulo is mostly acrylic instead of wool and such, right?
Yeah, I do QL muted colors look more late summer than the rest of the time.
Yes, branding is definitely more for new [wannabe] money than Trad.
I mostly don't like tight clothes, either.
At least he know betwixt BLAZER not Sport Jackie!!!!! [...e'en if overgeneralizing slightly about t-neck sweats vs. neck ties and such.]
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Very interesting but for me you speak too fast.
Thank you, Jean-Marc.
It's definitely an area I am trying to improve 😅 Already speaking a bit slower than in my last video, but it's still a bit too fast.
You talk too fast. It's not a race, slow it down, like a gentleman.
Thanks for the feedback, Richard.
It's definitely something I am working on, and I think it already improved in my recent videos.
@Lukas_Schanderl great to hear that. Just subscribed
@@Richard-ue3gxThank you, Richard :)
It's a great video, but the constant zooming in and out when you're talking makes me feel like I'm getting sea-sick on boat!
Thank you for the feedback.
I might have overdone it a bit in this video 😅
I think you got the balance of PTC and voice over just right. Lots of pictures illustrating your words. Good job.@@Lukas_Schanderl
@@sonamfitness Thank you Sonam :) Appreciate that. It takes a lot of time to edit :D
its the same