What Happened to the 8 Separatist Factions After the Clone Wars
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Meh 😑. Also need updated Earth 🌎🌍 in Star Wars soon...
wasn't a true, sep had thousands of worlds, think ten thousand
AMAZING how much of the real world economy is built on total fantasy imagination.... literally creating money from nothing. $ GREAT VIDEO ! $
3:04 IGBC
4:17 Techno Union
5:46 Trade Federation
6:54 Corporate Alliance
7:49 Stalgasin Hive
9:15 Commerce Guild
10:35 Hyper-Communication Cartel
11:25 Quarren Isolation League
Thank you
thanks
Thank you so much
Your the best
Always wanted the full List of CIS Leaders, Thanks so much
0:14 "Enter the bureaucrats, the true rulers of the Republic. And on the payroll of the Trade Federation, I might add. This is where Chancellor Valorum's strength will disappear." - Palpatine, The Phantom Menace
"I own your shit now" - Palpatine post Revenge Of The Sith...Probably.
How fantasy mirrors reality many of Senators (Old Republicans) get their campaign funds through PAC's and corporations. Lobbying in Washington D.C. has tremendous impact upon legislators who passes laws that effects All of us.
The galaxy is too large to be governed alone by the Republic or the Empire. If you asked me, I think it is for the best to at least let the peoples of the Outer Rim to band together to form their own government and rule themselves. And despite the Sith leadership, the Confederacy was a good example of that.
True but that would not be in the Core worlds interest. They want their ressources cheap and politacally dependant. They could not let the Rim escape their control or they would be held by the throat and also surroudned by a far more industrious foreign state. That is a classic Thucydides trap, except instead of being between two powers, it's between two regions of a single entity.
@@arthurbriand2175 What can the Core Worlds do at the moment? And I mean after the whole galaxy just thrown the First Order's yoke off, of course. I can see something like the Outer Rim Alliance emerged while the corporations like the Commerce Guild and the crime syndicates like the Hutts Cartel are seizing whatever they can in this leaderless and lawless galaxy while the Core Worlds are trying to form their own Forth Republic of sort.
@@lerneanlion Oh yeah, the fall of the First Order and the disappearance of the New Republic will lead to a giant power vacuum in the Galaxy. It's likely any faction that can rustle up some any fleet will make a play for a zone of inlfuence. The Resistance might try to organise a Republic in the Core but it's doubtful that they weild any legitimacy having lost all their political leadership. The giant civilian fleet from the end of RoS was united only for that battle and maybe as sson as the rubble of the Star Destroyers cleared they started fighting each otehr over who would get the spoils of the first order. The territories, the technologies, the legions of Stormtroopers that are deployed and about to enter a new warlord era. Most distressing some of the death star Destroyers are deployed outside Exegol and some pirates from Lando's fleet will no doubt steal some. So a bunch of people are going to have ships able to destroy entire planets in a climate of high political instability. Maybe some enlightened new democratic society will arise in the Rim but more likely some corporate interets and warlords will take control.
@@arthurbriand2175 There are the Banking Clan, the Commerce Guild, the Corporate Alliance, the Hutts Cartel, the Pykes Syndicate and the Black Sun. And if you decided brought in some warlords as well, then I can say that the galaxy will be in total chaos for a while. And by the time the dust settled, I think the galaxy might looked like something similar to the world around the Mediterranean Sea in the 16th century.
Corporate rule was not an improvement however. The megacorps often flat-out abused and extorted their customers and workers. They were military dictatorships in all but name. The Outer Rim really needed to form a government that wasn't controlled by business executives. As the Trade Federation demonstrated with Naboo, you don't have freedom if a corporation can just send an army to occupy your planet.
1:45 Darth Vader asked the Separatists how is their health plan.
Apparently it was great.
The plus side: it was down to one payment. Their lives
Silver lining? They could cancel their room service! 😁
Every time he does the own a saber I picture him walking through the Jedi temple with a shopping cart after order 66
SABERS! GET YOUR SABERS HERE!
I just spit out my coffee reading this
"Tarkin, of course" Lmaoo, I love how we all know where it goes
What if the Separatist council overthrew Dooku from the Separatist leadership? They realise that Dooku was tanking the Droid strategy and preventing the droids from swarming the Republic. Maybe the Neimodians link him to Darth Sidious and choose to betray him. The Separatists would be far better off without that Toxic Sith leadership. Plus if they can get Grievous to side with them they still have a Jedi killing general. Maybe Bec Lawise or Mina Bonteri can be elected leader. It would be interesting to see an unleashed confederacy and who would win internally between the Peace or the War faction. It would proabably be whoever the Separatist Council chooses. And more importantly once kicked out what do the Siths do. How would Sidious and Dooku deal with this new status quo? If Peace negociation were to be opened with the promise to never work with the Sith again, would the Jedis be open to secession and peace?
I really like that idea he should make a video on it
The Council already knew what Dooku was doing because they were in on the plans of the Sith. They weren't there because they believed in the cause or anything, they were all giving the republic huge fund boosts and the Techno Union produced all Republic equipment. You are clearly talking about the Separatist Parliament, which had no control over the war itself, they were acting as peace time leaders in the middle of a war because the Sith gave them no control of the war. They were the ones with genuine grievances against the republic.
@@tk-6967 I wouldn't say getting brutally slaughtered by an emotionally unstable 22 year old sounds like they were in on the plan
@@tk-6967 Did the Council know about Sidious. I remember that only Grievous after Dooku dies was in contact with the Sith. They obvisouly knew that Dooku was working for someone but did the Neimodians know that they they were working for the same guy who left them out to dry during the Naboo crisis? I do agree that most were working both sides or at least were trying to adopt a seemingly neutral stance. Maybe if a leader coming from Parliament comes to them and offers them proof of Dooku's backdoor deals as well as a promise of better post war perks they might take part in a coup d'état. The fact that they are greedy and power-hungry doesn't mean that they won't overthrow Dooku just that they will do it only if someone offers them a better deal to do it. Honestly it's just a reason to see what a fully unleashed confederacy could do and what the Siths would do if their puppet became a real state.
@@Cockus_Blockius Apart from the fact that they were gonna get killed they knew about palpatine's plan. I mean ROTS literally showed us that they had secretly not been actual separatists, it isn't hard to interpret what was going on
The Techno Union Army fell apart when Tambor wouldnt stop using dubstep
Reminds me of an old Corellian saying: "When you serve evil, you never get ahead, only dead."
The Intergalactic Banking Clan is my favorite because I work in the banking and investment industry lol. I didn’t really understand why citizens in the Star Wars Galaxy were picky when it came to accepting credits or any type of currency. From what I read the Star Wars economy followed a fixed system where their currency was pegged or tied to the vast mineral deposits of Munnulist and Mygeeto. Therefore I don’t know why it would be an issue when it came to accepting credits since they are backed and can easily be exchanged for the minerals from the IBC. We see Watto reject the republic credits when Quigon offers it for the parts he needs and we see Din Jarin reject Imperial credits for his first bounties he tried to collect in the first episode. Also I read in legends material most people were afraid during times of galactic wars because they didn’t know which side would win and was afraid the losing side would have a worthless currency. If the IBC is the issuer and guarantor of these credits then there should be no problem because they can easily exchange it. I guess some people in the galaxy didn’t want to go through the hassle of exchanging or maybe had strong political beliefs and therefore did not accept a credit that was issued by an opposing government they did not support!
I expect it's because Imperial credits were expected to have either crashed or have been about to crash, while still having traceable chain codes, in the latter case, (And Mando really didn't like being traced even in his ship transponder) and as for Republic credits in the Rim, like on Tatt, presumably little business was done with them locally and perhaps they couldn't be so easily verified/exchanged.
@@OllamhDrab even if imperial credits crashed it wouldn’t matter if it was guaranteed by Munnulist since it could have been exchanged for nova crystals or other minerals in their vaults. According to Legends sources Munnulist remained part of the Imperial remnant but still provided the services of issuing and backing the New Republic credit. A currency will only crash if it followed the fiat system like the US dollar where it was backed by the faith of the government and market conditions of supply and demand. The credits did not work like this and resembled earlier years where the US dollar was backed by silver and gold. In the old days before the Bretton Woods agreement you could literally walk into a bank and ask them to exchange your dollars into silver or gold. This is how a fixed system works which is how the Muuns operated! Only thing I can think of is the hassle of exchanging them and not getting a fair rate especially in remote worlds where the IBC had a weak presence and relied on black market exchanges.
Even that science fiction currency was backed by something, a lesson our banking system needs to learn lol
@@DanielGarcia-kw4ep well it’s because the science fictional planet of Muunulist and Mygeeto had the capability to back something with its immense resources of value. In the real world some countries do not have enough resources to back their own currency and have failed attempting to. In the 90s Thailand would peg their national currency to the US dollar they had in reserves. In order for Thailand to print more money, they needed to have dollars on hand but it failed when they didn’t have enough dollars but needed to print so they changed the peg which led to the Asian Financial Crisis. Eventually Thailand had to abandon the fixed system and free floated their currency following the fiat system!
Back before the days of cars(before you could get to the nearest bank if your town didn't have one), bank notes would lose value based on how far you were from the nearest bank because of how hard it was to actually go get the gold it was backed with.
> "Why you should never join an idea started by a Sith."
Words of wisdom to live by.
1:20 im sorry, "you-ta-poo"? 😂
Its _fine,_ not a big deal, just caught me off guard is all lololol
How did the republic believe these corporations were neutral in the war considering all their leaders were known members of the CIS? I know they were declared rogue elements, but how did the republic not realise it was more than that? Or did they just not know that the separatist council existed until late in the war?
Because the corporations acted as a shield for the core so that they could ignore the suffering of the Outer Rim and also the corporations gave the republic *tons* of money to Republic war effort. And also the republic didn't need to 'realise' anything, because if the corporations were siding with anyone it was the republic.
@@tk-6967 Yeah but obi wan literally saw their executives signing a treaty to 100% back the separatists. I get obviously it was all a ruse in the first place, but for the average republic citizen did they know that the heads of these corporations were running the CIS?
@Peters6221 but they still has seats in the senate, and they openly nationalised the banks later in the war so they definitely could have done that.
@@Kevc00 no he didn't. He saw them signing a treaty pledging their *droid armies* to the CIS, nothing more.
@@tk-6967 That is a very fair point, I just think if they knew that they were providing all their soldiers and fleets to the enemy the republic would have just nationalised them, as they did later in the war
12:14 "The two species worked together quite well...when they could"
I love this channel
"what happened to the Separatists?"
they dead.
The Techno Union went on to do some of the best remixes and original tracks in the outer rim
honestly that company name sounds like the name of a trade unionist band that plays electronica.
Do we know what the public knew about the origin of the clones. Did they know where the clones came from? Or that a Jedi was responsible for the order 10 years before the war? What did the common people know and think about clones?
Also other idea: Could you do a video on the Thucydides trap please? The Clone Wars always looked like an example to me with the established power in the core wanting to silence and shush the emerging powers of the Rim wanting to leverage their economical growth into political influence.
No once the Clone Wars ended and Separatist Alliance leadership was killed Palpatine wrapped that up and made sure that the clone troopers by Legend timeline were snuffed out and removed in the military and then enacted massive censorship and purges against those who supported the previous government and prevented any information from anybody knowing his connections with the Clones and the origins of who was the provider of the DNA sample of the Clone troopers of the G.A.R
@@BN-uh8cm That is a flat out lie, none of what you have just said is true.
@@tk-6967 wait what did I say that was wrong I'm just confused ?
Funny how it's the opposite of marvel where ant man tells everything to the public on his podcast
@@mikeross4664 And he writes a book apparently. In the leaked Quantumania trailer he even is on a red carpet. He must have become pretty famous as one of the last Time Heist Avengers that wasn't dead/ retired/off planet and that actually told the public WTF just happened.
Fan Theory: All these players in the CIS means a lot of information to be found and mined. While likely not a single one knew Palpatine's secret (maybe Gunray...iffy), they might have kept recordings of his encoded disguised messages as Sidious. While again no one would have recorded that Palpatine was Sidious, there could be logistics and inference info that could lead someone like Echo or Tech to realize that Palpatine himself ran both sides of the conflict. While unable to prove anything to the public at large, this info could help seed the Rebellion as it developed. That could give the Batch relevance in this earliest period, and if they don't make it, be one hell of an epitaph.
Anyone working with a man named Sideous and his associate Maul deserves whatever they get.
9:30. He really did my guy like that
The part about the Stalgasin Hive isn't true, just an FYI to anyone in the comments. After the Second Battle of Geonosis, the *Republic* enslaved the Geonosians and forced them to start working on the death star. Since the Geonosians were loyal only to their leaders, the Republic and Sith needed one of them alive, so they have the clones capture Poggle. The RO novel elaborates on all the horrors that what would become the Imperial Science Division were up to apparently, but essentially at some point Sidious decides that he wants Poggle to be at the planned slaughter of the council in ROTS, so he and Krennic allow Poggle to insight rebellion amongst the geonosians (in fact they attend the announcement personally from a balcony or something). The slave rebellion allows Poggle to leave but achieves nothing really, the clone forces on geonosis were large and strong and the war is almost over. Poggle gets on a Lucrehulk carrying all the council leaders to Coruscant, and everyone knows the rest. Anyways, presumably the clones subjugate the Geonosians for the 3rd time (each time being carried by the sith and corporates to victory) and work resumes. Due to the slight hitch with the rebellion, the Death Star outer shell making drags on until a few months into the Empire's creation (we see the shell finished in ROTS), and *Admiral* Tarkin may have (it isn't a fact and I doubt he was there, more likely it was a clone officer or something) ordered the genocide of the geonosians.
The geonosians deserved better.... they were such an incredible species
@@kadenstimpson3167 If it helps they do get a slightly better deal in Legends where after the Galactic Civil War their liberate their homeworld then basically go into total isolation avoiding all of the other destructive conflicts which would later occur down the timeline.
This guy also said the CIS was made from only hundreds of worlds despite the films clearly stateing that it was thousands
Good doco on the Separatist factions. Just a correction, Recusant-class destroyers were affiliated with the Commerce Guild rather than the Corporate Alliance.
At 1:20 you said they attempted to hide on..."U-top-uh". Where the hell did that pronunciation come from? Only thing I've ever heard was "oo-ta-pow". It's said multiple times in Ep 3
I have been wondering what happened to all of CIS corporations.
emperor palpatine : all this is mine now, if you have any complaints speak to the head of HR lord vader
Homie really called Utapau "Yootapoo"
Anakin sent them off with a nice SEVERANCE package...
7:03 whatever noise that was spooked me good
The Jedi were also super busy fighting the separatists during the clone wars. Had they not been preoccupied due to Darth sidious's efforts things may have gone quite differently for dathomir....
Thank you so much for this video❤️
12:14 I’m sure they worked quite well together, especially with a side of tartar sauce and a slice of lemon 🍤
How convenient, last night i was trying to get my girlfriends head around the whole CIS thing and telling her all of the minor organisations that built it up. I feel im taking this relationship the wrong way 🤣
That sponsorship segment was actually really good & entertaining!
One thing I struggle to understand is if you are Count Dooku right, and you know that Sidious is Palpatine, why do you think he is prolonging the war? Why not just lead the confederate states to an overwhelming and devastating victory after idk a year or so to make it believable. Dooku was a Sith but never saw the betrayal coming even though that is the way of the Sith. Maybe Dooku remained blinded by idealism even in his evil days.
Regardless I love how the confederate systems arc addressed the corrupt democracy that allowed for slavery on the outer rim, it's obviously a parallel to the American Civil War and touches on the current neglect that follows from our current day corrupt congress
I think dooku was waiting for his own padawan aswell to eventually betray sidious. He knew that he was a pawn to palpatine but he didn't forsee his death which was quite random
question: when anakin killed the separatist leaders, did he know that palpatine was behind the whole movement??
He was too deep in too care, at the end of the day he was serving palpatine regardless, Anakin wanted to kill Palpatine at the end of it and usurp the empire but with his body ruined and padme dead there was no point
Even though Anakin found out palps was the rumoured sith Lord he probably still held dooku responsible for everything.... I don't know if obi wan ever told Anakin about what dooku told him on geonosis when he was captured
Nute Gunray said as much...just before being gutted.
They outlived their usefulness.
Great video Allen !
Hearing what happened to all these factions makes me so happy that psychopaths like Palpatine & Tarkin are burning in space hell. Truly horrible old men they were.
Very cool video. I always wondered what happened to these guys.
Where did you get that great map of the galaxy showing all the planets?
Thanks
There are so many inner workings of the Star Wars-universe that we yet do not understand and probably won't will ever again 😰
the recuscant was supplied by the commerce guild not the corporate alliance they had the fantail
Y’all should do a video on the separatist leaders and which ships and droids they brought to the separatist army
RIP all those Alan clones that perished making that sponsor clip.
Even without the Sith influence, the separatists are still a cabal of greedy bankers and industrialists, warmongers and bandits. Sidious picked them for his plot specifically because of their character or lack thereof.
There were some systems that joined the sepratists for actually good reasons but they were under the leadership of the sith and corrupt greedy businessmen
I feel bad for all of the Separatist leaders. I know there's a lesson in their fate, that is to never strike a deal with a Sith because they will betray you no matter what, but they didn't deserve to die because their roles in the Clone Wars weren't that evil compared to Palpatine's goals. They were just being strung along and just when they thought they would see some result for their efforts, they were killed simply because they weren't deemed useful anymore.
They were evil, though. Watch Geetsly's videos on them and you'll see. I mean the Counsel was evil. The parliament was fine, though.
Why? They were a bunch of technocrats who caused the entire galaxy to collapse into chaos. And yes their roles were evil compared to Palpatine, their stake in the war was to receive huge power for their corporations and that opposition to corporate bureaucracy would be crushed brutally by the clone army. Neither truly succeeded because Palpatine didn't want the same bureaucracy as them and the clone army proved to be extremely unpopular with most regions, and the sith and corporates had to engineer artificial and brutal acts caused by droids like ryloth to make the clones look even a bit nice.
They engeneered a galaxy spanning conflict, selling arms to both sides and comiting war crimes. They were plenty evil.
Alas Poor Villains
@@tk-6967 right, these Separatists may have been shills, but they were more than willing to cause untold mayhem and suffering for, what they thought would be, their own person and corporate gain.
@Generation Tech you forgot about the zygerrian slave empire. They were part of the confederacy of Independent systems too.
You ever consider doing Legends or History type videos like on ships or planets?
Seems from what's known from on here an other channels it depended on what role they played to the CIS and how they could be used by the successor governments to the Old Republic along with that an how important they also happened to be to the rest of the Galaxy as a whole.
Lemme guess, all their assets got folded into the new Empire, for a safe and secure society of course.
Can you do a top ten scariest and/or deadliest star wars alien species?
Ownasaber don't actually build sabers, they reship from China
“100 billion geonosians were sterilized and died..”-up beat music plays 😂
The techno union AWWOUUUEUUUOOOOO is at youre disposal count
The Mon Cala battle in The Clone Wars series had no involvement of the Quarren Isolation League. The 2003 series however had their involvement
Here's a question, how many people knew that palpatine was the Sith Lord but also the Chancellor of the Republic?
Mas amida
Obi Wan should have known. Dooku told him a Sith Lord controlled the Senate.
I just realized.
The ones on the far left of the thumbnail: I think their design is based on the Guild Steersmen from Dune!
Can you please continue the sepratist alliance bs earth series please
Hence the necessity for the Corporate Sector Authority before and after the Republic, Empire, and New Republic......
How’d you get on with the TSA Alan?
I love your channel
I think I will get a Lightsaber. I want to cook a glazed ham for Christmas, but I'm too lazy to prepare the oven and whatnot to make a meal for eight people. So I'll just use my new red Lightsaber to slice the ham and cook the slices, while I do so. The sides are all much easier.
I just need to make sure that I take the battery pack out and hide it well out of reach from my younger relatives. I don't think it would do for my Nephew or Niece to think my Sith Saber fueled by the life essence of my vanquished enemies is a toy.
They got frickin' liquidated...
The clone wars would never have happened under the peaceful and fair dolphin empire
Nute gunray was the first droid leader
When the New Republic was formed, they should have let the last of the Imperial remnants govern the Outer Rim while they focused on the mid-rim and Core worlds
*those finishing moves on the younglings
0:11 ghost on the tv
Geonosians were the only ones I really felt bad for because they were practically driven to extinction after the war.
You forgot the collicoid creation nest
1:16 Handsome Squidward?😂
Does anybody know any of the background music in the video?
Is is NOT pronounced OO-TAH-POO. It is literally pronounced in Revenge of the Sith as OO-TUH-POW.
What a racket for Palps.
I always thought the Techno Union had such a cool name
Just a comment for the algorithm
same
7:36 Woah woah woah, hold up...
The "north-east" quadrant _of the galaxy?_ There are cardinal directions...in space?
How does that even work? What's the north pole of the galaxy? Is it even appropriate to call it the north pole because we get that term from the Earth's magnetic field.
Does the Star Wars galaxy have a galaxy-sized magnetic field? Are there space compasses tuned to that magnetic field? Would space compasses work while planetside or would the planet's magnetic field mess it up? Furthermore, what kind of crazy space magic would generate a magnetic field large enough to encircle an entire galaxy??
“Arms providers” Lmao
Wait don't work for Sith Lord controlled business? But..but the benefits packages is amazing and retirement benefits consist of something called Lights Aber retirement program.
Why didnt Tarkin just destroy Geonosis with the Death Star?
I’m guessing a lot of resources go into firing the Death Star, why waste it on a planet with a infertile species?
The shell was completed, geonosis is dead when Ezra visits it. The death star isn't operational until the first act of Rogue One
“Oo-ta-pow”
My boss deals in absolutes all of the time. I guess that means I am technically working for a Sith Lord 🤔
Or a Narcissist 😢
Are the Geonosians completely gone from the star wars univ or did some survive off world to restart the race?
One geonosian survived in rebels he was named klik klak and one geonosian egg
@@merilynvalerio1024 It could also be possible there are others that live off their homeworld. In legends they were more than happy to leave their world and settle on other worlds.
They were making hives all over so they probaably ran to ground
I’d like a lightsaber as a display piece and I’m a pretty big nerd. But, what kind of dork duals with these lightsabers?!?!
Opposition only exists for as long as another thing to be in opposition against exists. Once that thing your in opposition disappears you become defunct, as you served your purpose
Really wish the separatists got some proper closure like the clones and the empire.
The controlled opposition was why I’m not big into the clone war prequel era. There’s nobody to root for, so it’s just pointless light saber duals.
I agree it makes it hard to route for someone, but for me, that's what makes it interesting. It strips away some of that romanticism Star Wars is famous for to get closer to what war is actually like, from the trauma one can accumulate on the battlefield to how the ones in power are the only ones gaining from it. And when you get two characters on opposite sides together to actually think about it all for a second, you get amazing scenes like Ahsoka and Maul's conversation. If the original trilogy era was like WWII, then the Clone Wars era was like Vietnam.
@@tss3393 I would say the clone wars is like any war.
wasn't the Corporate sector around before the empire under the csa(corporate sector authority )
Yes, kind of.
Wat Tambor: Killed 19BBY (alleged)
Luke Skywalker: Born 19BBY
Welcome back Wat!
How much are those lightsabers.
I want one??
Why are thee only 6 factions in the thumbnail though 🗿
I like it that the main point of the video is don't joint up with a sith. Lol
“Arms providers” 💀
Um no. The Sepratist alliance was made up of tens of thousands of worlds. In ep 2 they tell us several thousand systems were about to leave. And dooku says 10,000 more will also. Lol
True, and wrong though...The Separatist Council were The Governing Body for those many systems because most of them were native or had Business with the species on those system planets.(most of the Outer Rim Territories right?)
Now excuse me while I put my Card number in...and give the Rothschilds BACK their money🤷🏾♂️😭😭
Star wars class analysis through a dialectical lens
Ummmm…. 1:20 UTA-POW not U-Tah-Pu omggggggggg
8:50
Geonocide
What are.some.of your favorite novels?
corrpupt corperate leadership vs corrupt senate leadership.
Youtapah? Come on....
There had to have been a diplomatic solution.