What do the Results of the 2020 US Census mean for America?
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- What are the results of the 2020 US Census and what does it mean for the United States of America? In today's video, we're going to be looking at the US Census and some of the strange categorizations they have for race and ethnicity and why they are archaic relics of the past and how they can be improved in my opinion. We will also be going over my personal estimation for the country with these new and improved criteria. Thanks for watching!
Masamap: / masamap_17_racial_make...
USA Census should hire Masaman
Was just about to say that lol
I agree.
Hispanic / Latino category needs much improvement
They should just make a new Mestizo category.
Vermillion292 Yes I agree that would clear a lot of things up for me.
They should have just left Latino or Hispanic. We Latinos don't like putting our race down. It creates division. Since we are majority mixed.
The Brazilian census is more accurated. That's more based by the phenotype than the ancestry, when white include the caucasians (europeans/Syrian/Lebanese), blacks include all africans of dark skin, native american (red skin), asians include mongoloids (East/Southeast asia) and the brown people (mixed race by white, black and amerindian).
I'm white-asian mixed, but I'm considered only asian because of the phenotype
@@pkb8353 is there discrimination in Brazil?
I still don´t get how Sudan is "white" while Spain is not. By the way, why only Spain and not Portugal?
@Alexander Sarbêba but spain is white. This census is just stupid. Btw Sudan means the country of the blacks in arabic and nearly everyone there is black
@Alexander Sarbêba i'm just stating the obvious, and by the way, I'm hispanic
An actual demographic map of Sudan puts only the fringe northern part of the country as Western Eurasian. While the bulk is of Sub-Saharan African ancestry.
@Alexander Sarbêba I know that, but still, they are all European
Dude, the whole map is a fking mess
Ashkenazi are more european than middle easterners. And think about zack efron, netaly portman, bar refaeli and jerad koshner. I would never have guess that those people arent "white".
And even yiddish (the ashkenazis native language) is no more than a dialect of german who is written with the hebrew alphabet
Jews tend to be their own indentity apart from race.
But its only confusing due to bad/vague understanding and usage of "white"
Jews tend to have white skin
None of that even matters much as Middle Easterners are also classed as white.
@@Ratchet4647 true, but you know what i mean.
@@engelj5773 I do.
I was just talking about this with my bsat friend the other day. She's maroccan with darker skin and brow eyes. I'm a white brazilian. Very pale, green eyes, light brow to dark blond hair.
If we move to the US I would be considered latina and she would be white. This makes no sense at all and it's even funny.
@ that's exactly the point. Latino for example is not race. It's language and culture. Same thing for arab, language and culture
@Alexander Sarbêba Latin is not race. It's language and culture.
Also my dad is french and my mom is armenian and I'm still a latin american as my mother tongue os portuguese and O was born in the american continent
Hello Mandy Owl Art, I’m Mestizo and American, My mother and her brothers and sisters are blonde hair, pale skin, brown eyes. But DNA says she’s about 50%/50% Native American and Spaniard. Latino is such a wide spectrum of phenotype in my opinion.
@@TonyMezaXD exactly, because latino is not a race but a language and culture thing. I know lots of japanese brazilian people and they're still latinos even if they're 100% asian. It's language and culture only
Moroccans are basically the ancient Berber endogenous population of north Africa who has been Arabized from Islam conquest until modern independence nationalism. They are similar to middle easterns but with more African traits like darker skin abd curly hair. There ofcourse other influences from Turkey and Europe. In my opinion as a middle eastern, North Africans are genetically and phenotypically distinct from middle easterns. Both North Africans and middle eastern are not white but their own category.
Also weird to call Central Asians “white”
And the Sudanese.....
It’s kinda weird cause Central Asians are a mix of Western Eurasian and Eastern Eurasian. So some of them indeed look white but others very much look Asian.
That's due to the Turkic and Mongolic Invasions which affected the makeup of those regions from predominantly Western Eurasian to a varied mix of both East and West.
I don't think all 10 of central asians that live here make enough of an impact on demographics
@ not at all. they are mongolic and have asiatic eyes, black eyes, black hair.
Best wishes from the UK Mason, always a dedicated fan of your channel mate. 🇬🇧👍🇺🇸
Latin America is the most diverse region of the world with Europeans, Native Americans, Africans and everything in between and yet they're all considered one people
No they’re not, there is a ton of racism all throughout Latin America, and even within Latin America they do not really identify with eachother. Terms like Hispanic & Latino are used to group together a large population of brown and black people for speaking the same or a similar language when there are big cultural differences with every country, even within each country, there is a difference between accents, food, music, & there is also a ton of classism within Latin America as well, Latin and Hispanic are colonial terms and concepts forced onto colonized people
I'm From Colombia and I confirm, we are all of bit xd
@@mg9849 i know but I'm talking about how "Latinos" are considered outside Latin Americas
@@joeklein2029 no they're one race there
@@Demographiaanthropology you don't really know India then
THANK YOU! I'm Latino and I definitely agree. When regarding ethnic legal information, it's really difficult and annoying when filling out paperwork because we're so uniquely different and complex even WITHIN our own group. I always knew we're ethinicly different and later discovered why (Iberian & native) but because of that, what the hell are we supposed to pick? And sometimes in paperwork, we're literally only forced to pick between: White, Black, Asian, Mixed or other. It's so maddening because picking white almost dishonors our own native heritage and some of Latinos like my brother who's father is literally a Nahua Native but our mother is the typical mixed latino was confused too. Hell, you probably would think he's simply native american when you meet him. And we're obviously not white because actual white people as Latinos in america never forget to remind us why we're not. But I used to pick "white" during high school begrudgingly. Now I choose "other" or "mixed." But since you gave me the idea of selecting BOTH, I'm doing that...lol! Thanks, masaman. I literally already gave my entire family a long story why they we SHOULDN'T be selecting white, they left a little annoyed but intrigued and agreed...lol!
Long story bro, you are mixed hispánic/native , simple as.
So the census is weird in Puerto Rico because the USA makes it and in here I'm a white 5th gen Puerto Rican who's ancestors came from the Canary islands. But we all fall in the category of Puerto Rican and I can tell you that a Puerto Rican from Loiza who is predominantly black isn't the same as a Hatillano who is predominantly Canarian. And we have much more... French Catalan Basque Galician Granadan.
Miguel Aguilar in my case, my dad’s parents are from Lares, and my mother is 3/4 Venezuelan, and the rest is Spanish.
Southern euros aren't white. ...
@Jose Stevenson the most catered to and pampered group on the planet save for west sub saharan africans when they emigrate to european countries which then make them equals to african americans in the special treatment they receive. What more do you want?
If you're Canarian then you're definitely not White. Y'all have more North African/Imaghizhen/Proto-Berber admixture then Andalusians, Gibraltese and those from the Morroccan Enclaves. That's not to say that its bad, but rather own your heritage man.
@@johnDoe-yt4bx I think they aren't called white in the USA specifically because of the hatred of non Protestants in the US during the 1800s. And that southern European and northern Africans are mixed with each other and it would probably be better to call them Mediterranean.
Serbs and other ethnicities from the Balkans that have a slavic background have a problem with US census when it comes to territory.A lot of people (300,000)still say that they are from Yugoslavia,around 190,000 of people say that they are serbs,and then around 400,000 said that they speak serbian in their household.And then there is a problem with territorial ethnicities,a lot of Serbs that originate from Croatia will say that they came from Croatia which places them under the Croat ethnicity,when that is not the case.
I find these interesting but not accurate because I always place Spanish people in the white section.
Also what are Arabs then?
in my hometown (Niagara Falls) the offical Serb population on the Ontario census is around 1.4k - however a vast majority of Serbs here originate from Croatia and Bosnia. So numbers of Croats and Bosnians are inflated in the city with just under 1k for each when in reality there is about 3k serbs and a few hundred Croats and Bosniaks respecivlty
Backwards & smelly.
Under the US census, Arabs are considered white, although there are some people who want Arabs to have their own category, but that isn't happening with this census. Historically, the lion's share of Arab immigrants to the US came from Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine, and a lot of Arabs from that region look very similar to Greeks, Italians and Spaniards. Here in Michigan, we have probably the largest Arab community in the country. And based on my own personal experiences, a lot of the Middle Easterners I've encountered look eerily similar to Europeans from other Mediterranean countries.
Also, this is the first census where Whites can actually write down their ancestries. So based on your comment, it would be interesting to see if more people with Yugoslav ancestry identify as Serb.
@@ElTigre12024 The "Arabs" from that region are mostly descended from non-Arab-Semitic groups as well as Indo-European groups. Which are Caucasians anyways (In the racial, not regional sense).
I dont know the degree to which Crusader era and Roman era and Hellenic era settlement have affected those populations.
Turkey, Persia and the Southern Caucasus region btw, which are right next door are largely Indo-European.
The middle east and North Afica are largely of the same racial/ancestral background as Europe, there is just a lot of variation in traits, that are more common in some regions over others.
I've known 2 Turks, one had blond hair and blue eyes, the other brown hair and eyes. I've known 2 Syriacs one with blond hair and green eyes, the other black hair and brown eyes. I've known a Mizrahi(Middle Eastern/North African) Jew with brown hair that is European in appearance, I've known a Sephardic(Iberian) Jew whose family moved to the middle east and later France, with brown hair that is European in appearance.
There is diversity of phenotype within national groups and across regions but in the end, Europe, the Middle East, North Africa, and even into parts of Central and South Asia are Caucasian.
Српски патриота bye bye Yugoslavia , thanx GOD that dirty country doesn’t exist anymore
*talks about the USA*
*plays Confederate music at the end*
Still part of the history
@@Samperor they were literal traitors trying to destroy the legitimate government and killed US citizens.🤨 part of their history ? Yes. But they stay buried.
@@jameslegrand848 I am not agreeing with it, I understand why the music was played.
@OkayGotIt no I'm not, but every country has had a dark page like this in their history. The British had Cromwell, the Germans had adolf and we had Pétain. But that doesn't mean I can't give my opinion on some thing I know about.
@OkayGotIt So you're saying that just cause I'm not a person of a nation, I don't have a right to have an opinion about said nation... that point is wildly absurd and unrealistic given the fact that in our modern age with the amount of information we have it's impossible for people to not have an opinion.
1:43 the dumbest thing on this map is Spain being brown instead of red
It's not dumb at all. Hispanic is not a racial term in the US. It's a cultural term. The census specifically states you can be Hispanic and of any race. It would be like the census using the term Slavic if there were communities of Slavic ancestry that were as large as those of Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, etc. or in other words Hispanic communities.
My girlfriend is Hispanic, of Salvadoran decent, and is majority Amerindian/Native American. She also has Spanish, Portuguese, Basque, Berber, Sephardic, Sub-Saharan African and Italian ancestry. Yet on the US census she is just slotted to that one category that means nothing of substance, it’s sad.
Evan LaCross the census shouldn’t even exist based on race. We are all mixed even white people are mixed because not everyone in Europe is the same. We should scrap the race census for something else yet still effective in counting up the people in the U.S.
@@thekid2389 it sbould be based on ethnicity but since white americans wanted to create their own ethnicity and basically remove their knowledge of their ORIGINAL ethnicity now yall have to create a census on race instead of cultural and ethnic affiliation.
@@yoyomantnc well your nothing but a mix of many Europeans. Which sucks unless you’re fully Germanic with blonde hair.” And blue eyes
@@thekid2389 In a country which had racism coded into law since founding, I still think its important to count race in the census. Its the best way to look for racial disparities.
@@BadgerCheese94 But that is something else, it was specifically against blacks and Native Americans (a small part Mexican) because the concept itself is very complex and doesn't make sense.
See the difference between the family names of soldiers in the Civil war, which were mostly of BritIsh origin, and WW2 and you can see how much white America changed during that period.
Names, both family and given, paint a very stark picture as a statistic.
Asia is the area in the world with the most races and somehow they're all one race
No that would be Africa to be honest.
Yah, austronesians, malays and east asians, mestizos are considered a single thing
There's sometimes more genetic diversity between local Africans of the same country that between local Eurasians that live tenths of thousands of km away from one another
Asians themselves do that too. They use the term for cultural and physical traits to define themselves as Asian..
@@lightr2187 thats because thats the only way americans will understand, if two asians are talking they would classify their nationality, asia is diverse and has many physical traits
I think there is also so problem with the Black/African American category. It does need some distinction. Africans are culturally very different form African Americans.Then there are Afro latinos.The Caribbean Islands (Jamaica, Trinidad...) and North Africans. They're all categorized as the same when they are very diverse and culturally different.
If we are going by culture than I see where you are coming from. But Caribbean and afro latinos are pretty similar in the black percentage, I think black people who are of significant African and full African (DNA wise) should be separate from biracials and people who are quarter black like Zendeya (debatable) or Halsey who is definitely not black.
Most (black) Africans dont even call themselves black. Biracials should be called "colored" or some variant such as that such like the ones in countries with significant black populations like Brazil or South Africa.
Culture isn’t shit. It’s about who looks the Same or not. Africans, black Americans and Caribbeans all look the same. So they get lumped in the same box. Polish, Irish and Germans all look the same so they all get the same box. Mexicans, Colombians and Guatemalans all look the same so they get the same box. Etc etc
I would really like to see a similar video about Canada and their census. The definitions of race/ethnicity in Canada is quite different and also how people perceive themselves in comparison to the US. It's a tale of two stories with a shared narrative.
My thoughts: the only point of a census is to count people for proportional representation. The only information the government needs is a number.
The American census is messed up, it needs to be redone
You should run for president on the platform of fixing this census.
He should run for president on the platform of racial hygiene.
@@mangaman6833 All peoples keeping to their own is for their own good.
Manga Man he wouldn’t win on that platform
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 what in the fuck
I identify my race based of my father's Zapotec Indigenous back ground when I filled out the census sheets. He's 100% Amerindian my mom is Mestiza so on race I marked Native American and for ethnicity I marked Hispanic. I'm one of the few Mexican Americans who know their Indigenous background and community. My two DNA test I took showed that I am 71% Amerindian. So I am not confused about my race, ethnicity or Nationality (American). Furthermore, I recommend many Hispanics from Mexico, Central America and Peru to take a DNA test to end their confusion. Most will be surprised that they are more then 40% Amerindian.
The Native American aspect of the United States census mainly relates to how much money should be allocated to programs targeted toward Native American tribes recognized by the federal government and their members since the U.S. Supreme Court declared "constitutional supremacy" over many Native American affairs within the U.S. and its territories. People declaring Native American ethnicity while not having any relationship to any federally recognized tribe only inflates those numbers since the U.S. government doesn't regulate nor provide benefits for tribes and their members not recognized by the U.S. government inside or outside its borders.
In reality... "Latino" or "hispanic" shouldnt even be USED to label ethnicity background. Neither are Ethnicities but a culture [not ethnicity] & linguistic tie [not ethnicity]. They are clusters. Example: LATINO/A= Italian, Spanish, French, Portuguese & Romanian
HISPANIC= some that has tie to Spain [which is not even an ethnicity, but a country that had a handful of different ethnicities upon 1492 when it labeled itself as "Spain". People that are "Latin-American" should go by their actual Dna test
Ethnicities in spain like in italy the uk and france have just about blurred into irrelevance by now (catalans are mostly multilingual as with basques) and arent isolated in any significant way. You could say spaniard is a defacto ethnicity now
The french are not latin, only their language. French are majority celtic and germanic (gauls and franks).
Bruna Fiorentino Bruna Fiorentino Wow I did not know that thanks for that information! I am a Mexican-American Mestizo (50% Native-American and %50 Spaniard) so these labels are confusing for me. I am Latino, Mestizo, Hispanic and American.
@@brunafiorentino5069 the french are latin because the french language comes from latin. There's nothing to do with DNA. It's a language thing only
@@AmandaIbraimovic
Still what she said is also correct, French are Germanic and/or Celtic.
They are a separate group (not talking about language) than the Spanish, Portuguese or Italians.
Even if Northern Spanish share similitudes with South Western French.
So the US singles out Castillians and not Basque, and Portuguese?
What about Galicians, Catalans, Aragonese and Leonese? What about Canarians?
I should have been more specific In my census then jeez.
Ratchet4647 I’m Canarian and I just put white on the census
Soy de nuevo leon🤠
You should be running the census. I mean they would probably hire you in a heartbeat.
He'd probably be underpaid.
Besides, the Census is designed per path dependence and political reasons, not per accuracy, precision, and truth.
I don't think much of his data would be applicable, though. The U.S. Census does not measure genetic ratios; it never has. It's always been more concerned with race and ethnicity as social categories rather than scientific ones. The only three categories on the original 1790 U.S. Census were White, Black (which included anyone with even a single African ancestor), and Indian. Obviously American culture has now become a lot more complex than that, but we still tend to think along those lines. Actually, I'm starting to think that the Census should question us about religion and/or political affiliation rather than race or ethnicity; that data, I think, would be much more useful in determining Americans' social attitudes.
Unfortunately, Covid19 will delay any accurate statistics. I was hired as a census taker, but it has been suspended indefinitely as precautionary measures. People also cant get to the post office to mail in their forms.
@@silvergriffin2585 did you fill your form online? if so, could you please give me the website? thank you.
We had ours mailed to us.
My post office burned down do to rioting.
Yes, I would LOVE to have a mixed Latino option! You suggesting this has brought a lot of happiness to my day. I would definitely say my ancestry is multiracial Latino, as opposed to having any definitive mixture, or standalone ancestry. It basically means some mix of Asian, African, Native American, and European. To my understanding, Latinos shouldn't be checking Native American; it is reserved for people who are indigenous to the US and have some tie to the culture.
You’re considering Native American as in America (US). I think of it as being indigenous to the wider continent(s) of the americas. Interesting!
This makes soo much more sense than the govt census. Especially for my Black American brothers and sisters, who do have their own unique identity and experiences different from, me, an Afro-TriniBagoian. 🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹
Thank you, much love from America.✊🏿🇺🇸👨🏿✈️ One my friends in highschool is TriniBagoian. She's a very beautiful Afro decendant.
I may look black but I am not black, I am american.
@@virginiansupremacy uncle ruckus I heard they were going to make you darker in the new 2020 boondocks reboot.....( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@ogundimu400 Shut up! I am not black, I am american.
yeah black americans should start embracing their own culture more instead of trying to stick to african cultures because they are not african culturally and genetically different from africans. Plus its cringy when they do that
Could you do a break down of regions within the US with your process? I’d love to see it for more diverse parts of the country like California
At 0:46 that dude at the front has his leg out
Yea the river was frozen and they're trying to clear a path to the other side.
To kill the English.
In their sleep.
On Christmas morning.
Cause George Washington didn't fuck around, lol
pushing the ice
Great content! Makes you question who in the world came up with the idea of race for the census. The census should be updated completely
I am Puerto Rican, and like most Hispanic people I am European, Native American, and Sub Saharan African. Like being Latino is great and all I love it but it’s not a race, and it really just annoys me how people think that it is a race. We are a cultural group and a very diverse one at that, there are East Asian Hispanics, there are Middle Eastern Hispanics, like I could list every group of people and you could find them living their best spicy life speaking Spanish, and most importantly there are White Hispanics. And the reason that White Hispanics and Mixed Whites aswell are pushed out of Whiteness is because we don’t fit what is means to be seen as White in an Americanized sense. Just how Italian Americans and Irish Americans were pushed out of what it meant to be White back in the early 1900s and those ideas still exist today. It is so different in our own countries compared to America, like over here even though I am mostly White and being Hispanic is not a race people think my race is Latino and somehow my White DNA doesn’t exist. Meanwhile in Hispanic countries your Whitness supersedes everything else, it’s interesting honestly since race is such an arbitrary concept yet people put such importance on it. At the end of the day whether you are Mexican, Filipino, Puerto Rican like me, Dominicano, Argentinian, Colombian whatever type of Latino you are not only does that matter more than being seen as White or Black or Native American or Asian or whatever, but the United States’ flawed concept and race does not define us or erase the uniqueness in each and every one of our cultures
That's 100% correct. Even southern Europeans were undesirable in the 1900s. Greetings from Argentina.
What the categories should be:
European, Sub Saharan African, Middle Eastern/North African, Asian/Pacific Islander, Native American (USA), Native American (Latin America).
Brendon What about multiracial? Which most Latinos are.
Good, except for Native American categories. There are tribes that supercede borders (both canada & mexico) aswell some U.S tribes / Mexican tribes having the same sub-category as far as Amerindian. The real category U.S Census should inplement is simply "Amerindian"
@@sigmaalpha8698 You can pick multiple categories
@@bille7585 There should be a distinction because of the fact some are Native to the country itself. For historical reasons it matters. We give Native Americans certain benefits like reservation autonomy and potentially a delegate in congress in the future. Obviously this shouldn't apply to all Amerindians.
@@Will9c
What if you have a family that is Middle Eastern and European mixed would you classify those as.
I identify as a Nazgul. Not sure where to place myself ethnically but I’m somewhere on the darkside.
Thats cool. I myself identify as an Urkhai. Viva la Morder, am I right?
What country?
How are we looking at 2020 results already, when the census forms *just* came out, and the world--let alone the country--has been on hold due to COVID-19?
I'm Southeast Asian and I'm fine with the Asian category including South Asia. People from East, South, and Southeast Asia share a lot more culture and values than westerners tend to think. The categories are ethno-geographic and not purely ethnic anyway
I disagree. Japan and pakistan are culturally similar ?
@@TTminh-wh8me Pakistan and Japan are on opposite sides of the Asian region so that one's a stretch. But if you think of what are the stereotypes of "Asian values", it applies to Pakistan as much as Japan
I think Pakistan is Indic culture at the core at least the Eastern half(Punjab, Sindh, Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-baltistan). They only have predominantly follower of Islam like Indonesia, Malaysia and Brunei which do not have too many cultural roots with Middle East and Central Asia instead of only converted followers and their descendants. I think both Pakistan and Japan belong to Eastern World which civilization is constructed by Indic, Indo-sinic a.k.a buddhism and Sinic culture. Thus, Eastern World is interchangeable with Culturally Asia. Does anyone will agree with what I say?
*the Eastern World does not include Islamic civilization like Middle East and Central Asia.
Asian is great cultural identity instead of Race. Racially speaking, they are East Eurasian[for (North)East/Southeast Asian], South Asian and Indo-Aryan(not same as Indo Aryan Speaker, apply to Upper Caste Northwest Indian & Pakistani and Brahmin North Indian & Nepali Khas, those have predominantly Caucasoid
/Ancestral North Indian+Iranian Neolithic, other than that overwhelmingly majority of them are South Asian with the exception of Himalaya, Northeast India, Chittagong Hill Tracts and Western half of Pakistan) in my opinion.
Obviously, I have edited my two moments for many times, will you feel something inconsistent or not normal.
11:05
3.6% - La Creatura
El abominaciono de la Goblino
Azriel Jale Dios mio
La luz extinguido
Dios mio... la creatura de las Americas!
3.6% El Sneako
In what world is someone from Kyrgyzstan, Mauritania and Norway the same race?
@OkayGotIt no no its wast easy.
OkayGotIt What if your Saudi Arabian
@@CJ-qv4sd indeed
Demographia Indeed What? 😂
After watching movie "Us" I realize that the problem in US is not about Race anymore, more about Economics Disparity which can make Issue like Race is a thing.
@Sawyer Cantrell btw why you USA has to pay for your school more than other country like literally OTHER country. For only your "intelectual skill" you must take EVERYTHING for catch the rye ? I suggest you to take revolt now and storm that very institution called "Capitalism" and make USA more not depend on "Only Money" but also "anything that can progress W/O money". One more thing~ In movie "Us" Rich/decent economy people can ignore an social disintegration which happen "in other place" , THEN those people coming out (...Maybe because of JOKER) and one by one RAVAGING those "Establish" society and talking about a moment "In this Plague season" some Ilk of Politics is one by one coming out and here you are "USA", Watch out! "Others is coming!😲👹
My attempt to fixe the US census (based on Science & Social issues) :
"Races" or "Phenotypes" :
-White (European)
-White (North African/Middle Easterner)
-White (Central & South American)
-White (South Asian)
-Asian (East Asian)
-Asian (South East Asian)
-Asian (Central/North Asian)
-Asian (South Asian)
-Asian (Pacific Islander)
-Black (African American (African descendant of the Atlantic slave trade))
-Black (African Caribbean)
-Black (South American)
-Black (African)
-Native American
-Australasian
-Other
Each one of this classifications can specify an ethnicity more precisely.
What do you think of it ? Is it good?
How can Pacific Islanders be Asian when they come from either Oceania or Australasia which is also part of Oceania?
You can hardly call Tongans, Fijians or New Caledonians 'Asians'.
Where is the Australoid South Asian category?
Australasia like Australia and New Zealand are immigrant people too but the majority are whites
@@vernicejillmagsino9603 They should say they are white Europeans basically...
I am sure the comments are going to be informative and intellectually classy.
get fucked
Right...
@@hugo5149 Oh here's the first specimen right here.That was quicker than i've expected.
I'm guessing it will be like 80% far right freaks and Nazis
yep you’re right lol
0:40 this is not true up until 1965 with the Hart-Cellar Act, America was 90% european and was built around European values, they did base their national identity around race.
In particular white protestant identity, something shared by all North European immigrants.
@@Perrirodan1 Yup, I didn't include it in my comment for sake of speaking to a more general audience here in the comments, but I will confer to your point that it was mostly people of North-Western Euro stock in particular. There was a clear bias and kindred shared by Americans of Anglo stock that was even apparent in the immigration laws at the time (favoring British people more than, say Italians), looking down on even Irish, and Italian people. I think it shows just how accepting and liberal everyone has become over time... I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but from at one point looking at an Irishman from an Englishman's point of view (whom I would say phenotypically, are very similar) and seeing him as different, or inferior, to NOW where we have all these White Americans from places as distant as Vladivostok to Paris and sharing them all under a blanket term of white... just something to think about.
I'm tired of people like Masaman trying to erase America's past and continue the same old adage "Oh, America has always been this big ol' melting pot since the beginning!" myth, when it really only was after the 60s/70s.
@@TheNatureVideos Cry more.
Your awesome! I just started watching your channel a few weeks ago. I'm 50 and it opens my eyes to how much everyone is a mutt and how americans, including me, make such a big deal about race when we shouldn't. Very educational!
I like the choice of the song Dixie's land at the end. Great song
Too bad it’s from a bunch of racists
J K
And?
Luke Baker and it’s too bad it was created by racists since it’s actually quite nice. That’s why I prefer the union version :)
@@jmadmaxx7295 well the us anthem was made by a slave owner. And in the full version its supports the death of blacks. So all country have dark passes, just enjoy nice music
Zachary the cringe-guy yeah, but with the union version it’s more fun, since it’s effectively a parody, and that’s hilarious to me
Great work, man. Your channel is priceless.
I also wanted to make a long comment. All the US census categories make NO sense, because they’re vague, and have no real consistency. The one drop rules, the “white is the default and anyone with other ancestry is to be identified with said ancestry”, and the unnecessary grouping of a vast number of ethnicities into one category (like with indigenous North Americans), all of that stuff has to be changed. The census needs to be based on real ethnicity and ancestry, not what someone simply “identifies as”. We can’t have “black, white” those terms are just vague and inconsistent. Better go by ethnicity, like German, Italian, Liberian, Nigerian, Cajun. Somehow even the old Spanish caste system is more useful that this (and it was meant to be oppressive).
Vtron Liberian my favorite ethnicity
Big Man I sorry, I just remembered that in Liberia there are several ethnic groups.
Vtron lol
Thats what we do down under
Honestly I think we should just leave a blank space and let people figure it out themselves. Maybe we should give a note asking people to describe how they believe they are perceived by the typical population, since the purpose is supposedly to fight discrimination. If we're sticking with the check in the box system, yeah we should add South Asian/Desi and MENA options. Idk how to deal with Hispanic people lol.
My census:
White/Caucasian - whole Europe, Middle East, South Asia, East Ural, both Americas
Asian - East and Central Asia, Siberia, Oceania
Black - Africa from Cape of Good Hope to Sahel, US Southeast, Central coast of Brazil, Caribbean Region
Native American - Both Americas
Interesting... though it seems that you forgot to include "mixed" people such as children of white and black parents... Now, as a "hispanic" if i had to choose one of your categories i guess i would choose "native american" even though I don't speak any native american dialect nor have even been exposed to such culture however since I'm "brown" i guess it would make more sense if i chose such category rather than choosing "caucasian" even though my native language comes from europe, I was raised with european traditions, I follow a religion that Spain brought to the americas... but i'm not blonde nor have pale skin .
@@Dah42, okay
Mixed - from Mexico to Brazil area (White+Native, White+Black, Black+Native), Madagaskar (Black+Asian), Middle Volga area and Central Asia (White+Asian), Sahel region (White+Black)
Masaman... your undermining the Amerindian population in U.S Census configure. There is ALOT more then 1.1% Amerindian. The "latino" number should add to the Amerindian percentage in U.S.
Reason: majority of latino in U.S are Mexican, which have about 40% Amerindian on average. This should be added to the Native American percentage in U.S
Yes sir, that's what me and my family think, we don't want money, we just want to support our Ameriendian brothers....
But yet you have "Pocahontas" Elizabeth Warren claiming she's Ameridian!!! And some people back her claim, but they would never consider us Latinos" native.
Yeah that’s the thing, not only are Native Americans in general underrepresented but we are not extinct or anything like that. The majority of us Hispanics are Native American to some degree and there are millions of pure blood Native American Hispanics. Like it’s just hilarious how people want to paint this picture that we just don’t exist anymore
@@anastasiarose1430 exactly sister, that's why on other I put native and the tribe of the rigion my grandma is from Tarahumarah in Mexico ..my grandma is redhead so we don't know. That it holds true for all Latin American.
Native American in this context only refers to tribes that lived in what is modern mainland US
This is how the census should be.
Race (ancestral continent): African
Nationality (your native born country): American
Ethnicity: AfroAmerican
I feel this is the easiest way to identify people specifically and generally.
Race should be more specific, because if it’s only based on continent then people from North Africa will be categorized under the same race of sub Saharan africans
Micheal Koch so every single country in the world doesn’t care about its people?
That would make me AfroGerman
White black and asians aren't races. Asia = region with probably 100 different races. White and black are colors. Only western euros are white. Eastern and southern europeans aren't white get over it.
@@alexmoore9580 agreed, no one is the same on the same continent. That's why it breaks down to nationality. Native north africans and one with native blood are in the same category as sub saharan africans. Sub saharan just means below the Sahara desert.
Finally, a voice of reason.
From what I understand Brazilians are Latino but not Hispanic. Latino is used in the Americas as someone of Latin origin (including language). Hispanic is (Spanish speakers) Spanish derivative other than Spain.
Portuguese are hispanic because the term hispanic derives from the ancient name of Iberia called Hispania and Portugal along with spain were part of ancient Hispania. And Spaniards are the original hispanics and the main ones. Spain is still called Hispania, but it’s spelled in castilian as España. You can’t exclude Spain from their own category.
This was excellently researched and presented. Always fascinated by the ethnic mixture in the Americas. Being Irish born and bred I find these diverse populations of interest in the way categories are oversimplified. Things are Old World simple for me at 99.8% Irish .2% Middle Eastern.
woah, imagine don't have an identity crisis🥹 that would make things easier
@@Wahrheit_ certainly leaves less questions relating to identity. Was a bit confused about the Middle Eastern DNA, turns out the neolithic farmers of Ireland originated in the Middle East and Anatolia. So essentially I'm 100% Irish Gael from people who've been here the past 6,000 years.
@@tireachan6178 I live in a country built through immigration and its identity is that (Argentina) so you can have results from random european countries, some arabs and if you're lucky 7% native american but everyone has an identity crisis
pacific islanders are to tiny of a population in the us, which is probably why nobody questions it
I guess they have tailored the questions to provide proper input for their gerrymandering optimization software.
Did you intentionally play "I wish I was in Dixie" at the end of this video?
of cause how else did it end up there
I'm impressed that you went so far with this video as to make your own US census; that's dedication
Great job doing your own census calculations! keep up the good work! As you said the US census "Hispanic" classification doesnt make any sense
Good work, very interesting. The difference, Mason, is that you are seeking truth while United States politicians actively work to shape data for their own political ends. Too many have a vested interest in maintaining a particular narrative and a more accurate breakdown of census data might work against that, so they work to keep the system as it is, even though it is obviously flawed.
Americans had the same ethnic core (British/Anglo heritage) for over 200 years (1607-1830) before other Western Europeans (German, Irish, Italian) began migrating to the states. It wasn't until another 100 years (around 1950) when non-European/Caucasian groups began migrating here in significant numbers.
American institutions were based on an English legal tradition and rooted in European culture. An “American” is someone of European descent.
American are what americans choose be, even if george washintong disagree.
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@Micheal Koch The first Congress was very clear--citizenship was open to free whites of good character. The only reason blacks were given citizenship is because the Lincoln Republicans needed the votes.
I also hate how they still label middle easterners and north africans as “white”. With all the discrimination these people face from actual whites, you’d think they would get recognition. They were going to make a MENA category for the 2020 census, but it just fell through. Most of these people don’t feel white, they feel like something other than white, especially the millions of muslims and jews in this part of the world. Most of them don’t really look “white” either. It’s unfair that they still haven’t given these people a different category.
Im North african but I dont look white or black or Mixed like legit just put other 🤣
There's a lot of racism in the comments. As a highly patriotic mestizo American it makes me sad. But I know they're just a small minority so I don't really care. I love America and all American's of all races.
Racism isnt always negative, it's not wrong to love your own.
@@callummason6589 "Loving your own" is not the definition of racism, its hating others. So yes it is always negative.
@Micheal Koch Stop vicitmising yourself. I know plenty of people of all races who were called racist. Even I, as a white person, called some anti-white people racist.
@@alexandrucristian8797 Bullshit. Blacks can espouse racial hatred with impunity, but, watch what happens a white man hates on a black man. "Racist" is a complete misnomer - by definition, everyone is "racist".
Offa Englecynn racism is not the same as appreciating your ethnic group or your culture you twit. not to mention that you don’t have to be part of the same race to even share an ethnic group or culture, racism is about supremacy and hating someone simply because they aren’t the same as you could be as broad as hating everyone out of your ethnic group or as minute as hating one ethnic sub group but at the end of the day it is all bad and ugly
Ethnic American would be those with a majority of descent from the British colonials and revolutionaries. (Plus related groups) Pretty straightforward.
Personally I think the race categories should be done away with entirely and replaced with a freeform field for ethnicity.
Spencer O'Dowd I see what you’re saying, but I imagine that it would be hard to count up all the people of the same ethnicity if they put different answers for the same thing, especially if they go by different names.
But then how else would companies and Hollywood be able to track and adjust their racial quotas? If we do away with race, then we do away with representation. Is society ready for that?
@@Lodatzor you could still do that. African American are a ethnicity in itself, and it only African American who suffered from slavery and segregation other black groups like Jamaican, Congolese, Nigerian or Somali Americans did not go through the same thing and are recent immigrants. Don't make it race quota make it an ethnicity One! It will ONLY effect African americans(American descendants of slaves)
Deep Water Songs The system is flawed, but I don’t know if it’s outright racism.
The legend of Timbuktu Dude Jamaicans suffered Slavery. It was a British and Spanish Colony.
I’m Ashkenazi Jewish and I think it’s insulting that you would not consider me white. No one has ever thought I was anything other than white. My family has been identifying as white on Census forms for over 100 years. Race is a broad category that indicates obvious visual differences. It’s very easy to tell the difference between a black and a white. I can always tell if a stranger is white (like me), but I can’t always tell if a stranger is Ashkenazi Jewish. Jews are not physically distinct enough to be a race of their own. Also, the cultural differences are not so big either. Don’t assume that every American of Jewish descent lives an Orthodox Jewish lifestyle. Plenty of us live the exact same lifestyle as non-religious people from a Christian background.
If I ever saw a Census that had a “Jewish” racial category like you suggest, I would still check “white,” because I don’t believe “Jewish” is a race.
The USA has a race obsession.
I’m Danish & Spanish born in El Salvador & I’m white & also don’t use that term used by the US which hasn’t been around for long. They started using Hispanic back in the 1980’s
In brazil, there are really black people and really white people, but for Americans we are all Latinos. They should ask what race we are, instead of asking if we are Latinos.
Yeah but this is too much asking for a yank who don't even know Brazilians speak portugese.
I think people should have to choose what culture they identify with instead of race, because your race doesn't always dictate your culture or your personal experience. People are more likely to make decisions based on culture rather than race. Race is simply too fluid because most people are of a mixed heritage/bloodline, and you can't always assume race by how someone looks. However, in the United States, regardless of what "race" you are, people will always assume based on how you "look" and what "color" your skin is. I understand the need for the Census, however, it is also a problematic way of classifying people.
In what world is a Pakistani the same race as a Japanese person?
As you pointed out in a previous video, most Mexican-Americans are approximately 60 percent European genetically. Many of them will insist that they're Aztec or Mayan, but they are not "Native" as far as facial features go and especially as far as cultural mores go. If we were going to go strictly by math, all Hispanic/Latino people except for Guatemalans, Dominicans, Peruvians, and Bolivians would probably have to check "White" on the Census, as would North Africans, Southwest and Central Asians, and most people originating from the parts of the Indian subcontinent north of the Narmada River (though in reality that last group often checks "Asian").
I WISH I WAS DIXIE
HOORAY
HOORAY
IN DIXIELAND I TAKE MY STAND
TO LIVE AND DIE IN DIXIE
(I was singing this in my head while it was playing in the end of the video XD)
Hello from Santo, TX! Thanks for all the great videos.
The Kydonia Kid isn’t santo close to granbury? Thats where i used to live:)
@@gaiusaugustusgermanicus471 Indeed! About a 30 min drive, and I have family that lives there. Cheers to ya!
the babys face at 9:10 is just hilarious
I’m Hispanic with much of my roots coming from northern Spain I’ve always seen my white skin as something that made me an outsider amongst my race until I looked into my ancestry and found that a majority of my mothers side of the family came from Europe and my fathers side from Mexico which I found interesting but I’ve always seen the grouping of Spanish speakers into one ethnic group being Mexican as something absurd because not many take into account that Mexico was colonized by Spain and that the cast system in Mexico still has apart to play in Mexican society today but I’d like to say I consider myself American with European and Mexican roots either way my Spanish is still terrible
When I did the census it made me so mad. A mixed Latino option is ideal!
Do what Australia does. Not include ethnicity on the census but nationality
There's not only mixed Latinos...
Go to the south of Brazil, to Argentina, any country at south of South America and you will see more whites than you can imagine in this region.
There's is mixed people in this countries, and there's people that are direct descendents from europeans.
Some city's like Blumenau in Brazil, will make you fell that you are in Germany, others like Caxias do Sul also in Brazil will make you fell like you are in Italy.
It's not only the heritage, but also the culture, this city's that I mention were founded by European migrants that came with whole comunitys to Brazil.
So how you can fit and ethinicity like this in a mixed category?
The germans from Brazil that aren't mixed, the Italians there aren't mixed? What we do about them?
Aussie Titan nationality is the country you live in lmao
- Joseph You are soooooo pressed it’s not even funny, not to mention skin tone has literally nothing to do with this
@ Hey asshole- I have a family that I fill out the census on behalf of.. you know, MY CHILDREN yes I am light skinned and yes, an average white person name, but all of my children are darker than me. They have native American Indian (unknown to me what tribe due to adoptions in family) , native Mexican Indian (myan) and a variety of Mexican/Latina heritage for one of my kids who's dad if different from my boys. Not that you care or can think beyond the image of a white girl making a comment about frustrations regarding a mixed latinx option. 🤷♀️ I digress.
I love your channel. Do you have a video about amish or Swiss Americans? It's very complicated to find info about this group. That would be fantastic if you were making one!
Excellent video thank you for the info thumbs up stay awesome everyone.
Hi Masaman. Another super video. Where are you from? What's your ethnicity?
He is from Texas.
He is mixed race.
As a Puerto Rican, I really just want independence, and hope the Puertoricans living in the US support it too.
Vtron Puerto Rican’s have it easier to migrate to the US because they are American citizens, so I’m not sure Puerto Rican’s in the us would want indepdence
Alex Moore the US allows dual citizenship.
Masaman nailed it. Great video.
So yes, "hispanic", in the broad sense, should refer to culture (which includes language) and in the narrower, more specific sense, should refer to ethnically being of peninsular-Spanish descent..
In neither case should that term refer to race.
Lol risky to have a channel on race and play “Dixie” at the end
its ok to be white. im proud to be white
He has a large Nazi audience and given the fact that he doesn't address it at all he's probably okay with it.
@@words3147 ive never once seen a nazi or racist comment on his videos. i feel this is a very non racially charged channel. everyones here to learn truth.
@@jimster1111 The most liked comment in the comment section is saying that the Jews are trying to destroy the white race. You're either totally ignorant of how far right people talk online or are lying. The first reply to the comment I replied to is literally referencing an alt right meme. The comments are like 40-60% reactionaries.
@@words3147 on this video? i scrolled down pretty far and didnt see any of that
There is also an enormous diffence between the European and the American concept of white: for Europeans you are white is your blood is pure caucasoid (and with not or very small levantine blood), in America, expecially in South America, they look only the phisical look: for them if you look European or almost you are white.
10:32 yes black Americans needed their own category along time ago I never understood why they never had it because most black people who immigrate to America get confused and check off other at least I know a bunch who did that.
There are so many big differences between blacks and African Americans. Mainly, it's the culture.
Last June 2019 I went to Spain for 3 weeks in 6 different cities Spaniards are definitely white I also saw Central American immigrants easy to tell the difference lots of Chinese North Africans and few Central Africans loved the country the people and the food can’t wait to go back.
i would divide the euroean category to romanic, germanic, slavic, uralic, keltic and others
for the Spanish and French, surely they would be classified as Romanesque but genetically they are 75% Celtic
I agree that including central asians and north african/middle easterners as "white" is odd. However I do think it makes cultural sense why the US census lists Spanish/Hispanic as separate. I wouldn't mind them getting rid of that tho
It means USA is on it's way to being Brazil 2.0
South Brazil is ok
At this point the US is just Brazil with more money. Just as much corruption
Brazil is segregated between a mixed north and a white south.
Somehow Middle Eastern and Central Asian people are the same race as European people?
They are using scientific info that Middle Easterners, North Africans and some Central Asians that they are predominantly the West Eurasian racial type like Europeans are, yet they don’t use scientific info for Spain or Sudan which Spain is white but they say no and Sudan is not white but they say yes. It’s all messed up.
Me during the video: 🤔
Me when masaman plays Dixie land: 🙂
Very eye opening, thanks Mason :)
Greetings from Canada!
I've always said when it comes to race its all about skin tone. Mariah Carey could pass for white if she wanted to but Halle Berry could not. The Dravidian people from southern India are the same complexion as me but they are not "Black" its crazy. I love those afros on those Melanesian people in the video.
@OkayGotIt oh I know but skin color is such an issue and its sad to me.😣
Because they are Australoid.
Btw,they are much darker than you!😂😂😂
@@Nonchalant_248 Mariah looks mix too me
Excellent work! I fully support your report.
I thought there would be changes to the Census to be more inclusive of people. For instance, I thought MENA, middle eastern/north African, would appear as its own category separate from White as a racial category, I also thought the census bureau was considering having Latino as its own category.
@Dave Race is as much a social construct as ethnicity, their just based on slightly differently "rules" all of which are arbitrary. I think Ethnic origins makes more sense than racial because culture is what connects people, not race. Within the context of the US I think we all understand what Americans mean by Latino, it means having ethnic origins in Latin America. I find that here in the US, the multiple Latin American ethnic groups do share a sense of commonality with most other Latin Americans regardless of racial background or country of origin especially in an English speaking country.
@shankapuppet Thank you for clearing that up for me and please excuse my confusion. It must be my inferior intellect and primitive nature that would have me foolishly believing that I am somehow equal to an internet troll whose name is inspired by homicide on sesame street. The real question is, what did puppets ever do to you? Tell me oh wise one, how many times did you shank the puppet before you realized it was your own hand. Lets unpack your frustration with puppets... I'm sensing some unresolved trauma, I hear you and I am here for you.
@masaman Can we get this video in HD? I would like to be able to read some of the fine print. Thanks, you're doing a great job brother.
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I don’t agree with the US census classification of races. Spaniards are white, Arabs and Turks are not white, and it is ridiculous how they classify Indians, East Asians, and others under one category. Those are just a few examples.
@Micheal Koch yeah..
Why do you believe that Spaniards are white?
Arabs and Turks got put under the white label because a lot of the Arab population in the US came from the Levant, where a lot of Arabs look very similar to other Mediterranean groups like Italians, Spainiards, etc. Same applies to the Turks too, but their numbers are more negligible. I don't get the whole classification of Hispanics, because you can still identify as white even though Hispanics have their own category in the census.
@Eric Hefner The entire native population of Europe is white, not just Anglo-saxons.
Some Arabs and Turks are white, since they look white. Not all however.
Masaman I hope you respond. What was the 2010 Census results according to you. I think many people would like to know because, it would give a good view of where the country is going.
Genetics aside, Ashkenazi Jewish culture is much more similar to central + eastern european culture than it is to Mizrahi Jewish culture; not everyone is a hyper religious hassidic type, and I'd argue those peopel are cultural outliers
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@shankapuppet semite* but yeah pretty much right
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Ashkenazi Jews no longer live in eastern europe, most of them live in U.S and are simply american like any other american for many generations. After U.S they live in Israel and their culture there is Israeli, not arab, but much more closer to it than to polish or slavic culture unlesd you are talking about new Russian jewish immigrants that come to Israel.