I Need a Home Theater PC... NOW! - NVIDIA RTX HDR
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- Опубліковано 27 кві 2024
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NVIDIA's latest feature allows you to watch SDR content in HDR, like old movies and shows that never got remastered. But upmapping isn't always easy, so have they gotten it right? Come check out RTX Video HDR and see for yourself.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:20 SDR Movies
4:45 Live Action
8:45 HDR vs RTX Video HDR
11:50 How?
14:00 Alternatives
15:14 Doom Eternal
18:10 Crysis
19:18 Conclusion
22:00 Outro - Наука та технологія
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Which is this video super dark, Linus?
Linus get some sleep you look tired
Non hdr displays look trash and youtube doesnt allow us to turn hdr off so for us the video looks horrendous, alot of people cant afford an hdr display especially us that watch on mobile, just some creative feedback for the team
Hdr in my opinion is only necessary if you plan on whaching mainly hdr content
@@barergeoduck2422 I have and HDR display, even the HDR videos are blown out and look horrible, maybe I did something wrong? idk but it still doesn't look good at all
Watching this video on SDR monitor is like being a blind person and reading in Braille about how beautiful something is
Well, doh. I watched it on an HDR monitor but forgot to switch on HDR on my PC.
on my display from 2009😭
I'm watching on LG Oled G3 and it's not showing much difference. Turned off RTX HDR since video is already HDR. Somethign's wrong with it.
I have a good monitor, it is 100% DCIP3, it has under 2 DeltaE, but still most of the content is more vivid at best.
I watched parts of it in chrome with hdr and in firefox with sdr, and I couldn't really see a difference in the comparisons
Having to master and grade this footage must be such a 'meta' experience. Props to the editors. Nightmare fuel.
It must be mapped to take advantage of static contrast. This footage must look silly on a high brightness setting where the shadows are too bright and the bright colours are washed out
The cameras and lights are all set up on a baseline. The footage is all graded and coloured to that baseline. It's not that difficult when you have it set up professionally.
@@TehButterflyEffect it's wonderful how many problems in life that can be solved with 200,000 dollars in land and equipment.
Hi LTT, please never stop producing in HDR. This video looks so beautiful. I genuinely thought you upgraded your tech or made a big internal decision or something, before realising that this is one of the few HDR videos that LTT has done.
bruh the video literally covers about RTX auto HDR, which means content creator don't need to create videos in HDR, because SDR to HDR conversion is pretty good
The waiting game for content to catch up with the latest technology can certainly be frustrating. It's good to see that Nvidia is making strides in this facet. That aside, I'm also excited to see what Shield Pro 2 will bring to the table in the future.
100$ there won’t be a shield pro follow up. There’s no money in it
@@nothingtoseehere93 Sadly, I agree. There's money in it, just far from enough money for a company like Nvidia.
@@nothingtoseehere93tons of money if they can partner up with tvs like lg and samsung. Microsoft and steam are already on board with the idea of everything built in just. Turn on tv, connect your controller of choice and play via internet.
And we need an Alex "It should be fine..." Tshirt from the store!
It's in their sticker pack! Have that sticker on my work machine because Boy Howdy is that said a lot in the work context.
It's in the sticker pack for real!? I didn't know they capitalized on that for anything lmao.
Yes.
Can I post this on the subreddit? This needs to be a thing.
Yes it does! Please do! I've been nagging so many videos comment section!
Just got a HDR display and remembered RTX HDR for video and I tried crunchyroll...oh baby! Now I need this on my main TV upstairs...Fire TV be gone!
wireless hdmi? expensive but maybe possible.
Look at fiber optic hdmi can be used over long distance just run it through your wall with maybe a usb extender and a cheap bluetooth dongle so you could use a wireless mouse and keyboard or controller
hmm Anime in hdr? how is it?
@WeLLeSaMa Or a really long HDMI 2.1 cable, which would be cheaper but requires you to run cables across the house.
@@charlesmontgomery9947 this is the only option
I've really been liking the RTX video super resolution too. Very impressive with low bitrate stuff and the UA-camrs who still only upload in 1080p
Same. I have 3050 connected to my 4K TV and watching 1080p HEVC x265 Movies and tv shows is awesome and don't feel like downloading that 10-40gb 4k movies. Just recently watched Encanto and Avatar and it looked almost exactly like real 4k with a few artifact/oversharpen in some area but compare to 1080p i much prefer to have those disadvantages
I had a similar effect when I brought the Xperia 1 V, it has an X1 chip that upscales and tunes the picture. 360p is watchable, 480p looks sharp and anything 720p and higher looks amazing. I have the cheapest Netflix plan and it looks almost perfect, there are imperfections if you take the effort to look for them.
Eh, I'll say it looks good with cartoon or anime styles but looks terrible on actual people. I've noticed that super resolution really smooths detail out of images. It also really doesn't work with some old video game footage as it like completely smears the textures.
And honestly just tried the HDR feature on this video, it just made the video look dim. I don't know how they got the look they claimed in the videos because as soon as I turned it on the entire image just got flatter. I didn't notice any highlights getting brighter or anything staying bright while other parts dimmed, it just looked like the entire image dimmed down.
Maybe it was only made with the expectation people are using OLED displays with low initial brightness?
Finished a build in that case last month and holy crap, I love it.
After the last techlinked video I’m just looking for people in the background hiding in their green screen suit😂
which one
@@JimNortonsAlcoholismthe last one from Wednesday
@@JimNortonsAlcoholism “Intels battle has begun”
It almost looked like a 3d model haha
You'll be happy to see the april fools video
Guys, I love the fact that you’re uploading in HDR more… BUT the color grading looks so grey and muted with everyone’s skin. The Nvidia HDR versus segment actually looked better than your own color grading :/ please put more reds/yellows and vibrancy into Linus’s skin. He looks like a pale corpse 🤷🏻♂️ and before anyone suggests it my TV can hit 1600 nits and has very accurate color representation.
As I understand, LTT use Premiere Pro. HDR in Premiere is practically unusable.
Exactly. I was thinking my LG C1 was just fcked in UA-cam, but other HDR content looks great. Guess I'll watch this video on Floatplane instead
@@3rdHalf1it’s weird because I think the giant TV in his home video was color graded really well! I even commended it in the comments because it looked so much better than some of their other HDR videos. Maybe it’s different editors? I don’t know.
On mobile it just looks very dark
I watched this video on my work computer that's only SDR and yeah it looks grey and washed out.
When I watch it in HDR on my Pixel 8 Pro with Display set to Natural, it looks like there's almost too much red.
Loved the theoretical part in the middle of the video. Great explanation - thanks for that! :)
14:25 I don’t get seizures but am grateful the ltt team does the flashing lights warning so well with audio cues
My wife does and gets headaches with flashing lights, so I appreciate the warnings as well.
Oh boy, can't wait to purchase an RTX 4090 for my
HOME THEATER
LMAO you don't need that to do this, Linus is using a RTX 2060, I used a RTX 3080 and it worked great.
It's supposed to be supported on 20 series GPUs. Used RTX 2060s are pretty reasonable these days.
I cant wait to use my desktop for my central home processing gaming pc.
my 2060 Is kicking ass in my home theater gaming build even in 4k.
You guys have home theaters? :O
Btw did anyone find a way to increase the middle greys for the RTX video enhancement like you can in the new Nvidia overlay for RTX HDR?
I'm on an LG 27GR95QE-B and RTX video enhancement causes videos to be a lot dimmer than SDR or with Auto HDR.
Watching this on three different displays with three different panels was so nice I was able to tell hdr content vs sdr when comparing the three
Some feedback in case it helps!
For moving images, it's also useful to show stills to really focus on what you are commenting. Another idea is to split the image down in the middle showing the same footage with the before and after. Or if you "Slide" the correction in. Sometimes I'm lost looking at the wrong details (I'm no expert, in min 2:15 I was looking at the small buildings and didn't understand anything haha).
Thanks for the Tech Tip. I didn't even know I needed one
I have been so happy with nvidia video and game HDR conversion, as well as video super resolution. Looks great on most content, and feels like content actually fills out the gamut of my QDLCD and reduces streaming blocking so much. UA-cam and anime have never looked so good!
I also turned the saturation down a bit to compensate since I thought it was too saturated by default
Right now it does better than some native HDR games with apps like Discord when using game overlay.
Hopefully this tech works to make sdr content optimised for certain sdr monitors, specific static contrast and dynamic contrast, also if the user plugged in at which brightness colours start to wash out
true, old animes looking great with vsr. Much much better then shield upscaling!
The visual image guy is always cool to have involved (first saw him on that massive TV video I believe). He knows his stuff and the jargon. (Didn't get to talk more here but on the other video he did, kudos.)
Unlike most HDR vids on UA-cam which drag nearly every pixel to a blaring white just to show that they ar HDR, LTT's HDR is actully well graded. They actually know to keep the diffuse white (e.g. the towels) under SDR level and only push specular white to HDR level. Some movie studios don't even have this kind of understanding. Well done.
thanks linus and ltt i didnt even no about this feature until this vid poped up keep up the great work guys
I can definitely vouch for PTM 7950. I’ve got one on my 3080 and it’s amazing, great consistent thermals with zero pump out. I’ll be using it on anything bare die from now on. Happy that LTT carries it now.
I really hope you’re right about the shield pro 2, all of this stuff makes perfect sense for it and I would love to have a google tv that doesn’t have a neutered processor and slow Ethernet port.
Thanks for uploading this in HDR and not SDR. Especially for us people who already use auto HDR, so that we can actually see the difference👏👏
I feel like to do an accurate comparison of hdr between nvidia and hdr mastering you should use the same monitor model for both cases as it eliminates panel types and keeps it as accurate as possible to really see the difference between both.
you can turn on RTX HDR and if u start a game or watch a movie with HDR it will be disabled by default. edit: if u are using Windows Auto HDR you have to turn it off to get RTX HDR working in the games without HDR.
You can configure the auto-hdr to not engage in specific software
I did not click on this video expecting to hear theory crafting about nvidia shield 2… now u got me too hyped lol 🤪 hopefully your right!!!
The first time I watched Linus in a UA-cam video was on the NCIX channel so I could work out how to install Windows from a USB stick to the Silverstone HTPC Case build my co-workers helped me with way back in 2013. It's crazy how far things have come since then!
If you want AutoHDR to "pop" go into the Gamebar Overlay and set the HDR slider in the options to max.
The reason I don't use RTX HDR yet is because it doesn't work with more than one monitor and for whatever reason it causes a gray haze over my screen, possible because it misinterprets the max nits of my Coolermaster GP24U.
oh my god thank you so much for telling me where to find this setting. EVERYONE talking about this online was showing it in the Nvidia App, BUT ITS NOT THERE FOR ME. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!
ok one problem... how do I change the Status to Active? Even with RTX Super Resolution and RTX HDR enabled, both are shown to be Inactive, even during video playback. I have HDR enabled in Windows, as it states this is necessary.
I usually have to fullscreen the video I'm watching. And if I remember correctly, this feature is only available on Windows 11@@HazewinDog
i think you need hardware accel on, check to make sure it is. it doesnt work in firefox (it will soon? i hear the curent beta works so next release should have it to) because firefox doesnt support hdr. so make sure to use chrome or edge. make sure ur display is calibrated properly.
I looked to see if I had this a few weeks ago but I actually just had to update. I usually use the old settings panel anyway
NOOO!!!! Why did you take the intro back out?! #BringBackLTTIntro
No..
I bet it's an ab experiment.
It kills watch-time. Can't blame em I guess :/
Intros are passé
@@Leo9ine we still can skip the intro even the intro still there
Tried this on a really nice monitor and I do like the look of it. I realise though for some of my animations it really brings the highlights up when really I might not have made it that bright compared to the rest. The thing is, sdr content can look really good if the color space is changed and maybe even the gamma. Then it can have a bit of a similar effect
My only issue is text, any time there's a white screen of anything it's just too bright but i just deal with it. Cause overall it's better.
Some stuff "looks better" it's kind of the preference when it comes to HDR, brighter tends to be prefered. And a lot of media does not lean brighter.
you know what i just noticed about watching this in hdr, is that you can really tell the monitors at the 8:46 segment are like screens with a backlight and not just a flat dull panel
Those are QD-Oled monitors so no backlight.
None of these monitors have backlight
Mad god is a wild experience, and the first thing I thought of when i first heard about rtx hdr. Also it's a completely different experience watching the blu-ray vs streaming. Also, also it's probably one of my favorite soundtracks! I'm excited to see it make an appearance here 👍
I find using this and turning down the color saturation on your panel works nicely
Been waiting for RTX HDR for games, but alas here I am with multiple monitors. Videos look great on my recently purchased mini LED panel!
plug your 2nd monitor into your onboard graphics and it works
@@Fa_mousMusic unfortunately I have 4 monitors lol
oh wow i very like those seiuzere warnings, the video seems very proffesional with them
why seizure prone people need warnings? why can't they just close their eyes if something starts to flash rapidly? eyes blink/close so fast. not fast enough? curious to know why it doesn't work.
@@cubertmiso4140because sometimes it's not the "flash" itself but the difference itself in brightness. Similar to leaving a very dark room and going outside to a bright sunny day.
Yes, the eyes can close quickly but the light is faster, you only know to close your eyes AFTER the change has happened
@@eggsarnyI see, thanks for the explanation.
FYI This works with media player classic!! Makes an incredible difference
can you elaborate? My video card settings does not show the toggle Linus shows. Does MPC have it's own?
@@rbuschydo you have an Nvidia rtx card? If so have you updated to the latest driver and updated the Nvidia app/control panel/geforce experience? It should be in image/video settings.
wow, what a neat niche trick and combination of software :)
PotPlayer supports both RTX upscaling and HDR also.
@@cajampa possibly more HDR'y but less correct
The RTX autoHDR toggle is in the Nvidia App, under the graphics setting -> global toggle. I don't know if it is a different algorithm, but it is in the new app.
I still love media center home theater PC's thanks Linus 💯👍🏾
nah😂😂 that tennis player looked so goofy😂 7:10
It was badminton 😅
@@brianhecimovich4488 bruh didnt know😂 thanks for the correction
I CANNOT believe I sat through that ENTIRE 22 minute video, waiting waiting for Linus to show me how to build a HTPC! I have spent weeks now researching it and I thought this was my saving grace......
Yeah. I was waiting for a build. 😢
A HTPC is just a normal pc typically in a smaller case. What else is there to know? If you want to do transcoding with PLEX then get a 12-14th gen i3 or i5 with iGPU which can transcode 4K HDR.
I also still have my windows media center PC remote, though admittedly it is slowly dying in a storage bin somewhere.
You missed an opportunity at the beginning when you didn't say "There's gotta be some kinda catch? To our sponsor"
amazing. Hope they can implement this tech as an Free update on existing 2019 Nvidia Shields
Tried this myself a week ago and it just blew my mind. I couldn't watch anything without this on.
get a life
@@StevoHDA sheesh
It just makes all my UA-cam content much darker... not a fan
the HDR really makes the purple in linus's eye bags pop
Wicked City was the first anime I watched, I think it was 1992. It was rather different to the cartoons we were used to seeing.
(The second was Urotsukidoji - Legend of the Overfiend. Many years layer I found out they were both cut versions censoring out some of the more extreme content, which was quite surprising given the content they did contain - especially Urotsukidoji, obviously.)
I just started using RTX HDR a few days ago and was hoping you would make a video on it!
What is your opinion on it so far?
@@NitroXBL it has about 20% performance hit in games, but it is worth it
@@solid_abdi7148 It depends if a game is already using the tensor core or not, I only see a 5-7% performance impact on my end, though I do have a RTX 4090 which has a lot of tensor cores goes unused.
@@solid_abdi7148 it shouldnt be anywhere near 20% or you're doing something really wrong. it's a few fps at most
I love the audio noises for the flash warnings. really really nice
they should add trigger warnings too. some of their content just doesn't make me feel safe.
@@3x3q-hw7uy Every time I see Linus holding something expensive and waving it around, I get worried that he's about to drop it
As an angineer at AJA, it's so cool to see one of our products mentioned in an LTT video! And yes, it's expensive, but it also doesn't operate anything like an AI upscaler does so the comparison is kinda weird, but the shoutout is cool nonetheless! 👍
It's the visual equivalent of Beats headphones pumping the bass. Not accurate, but people go 'more bass more better' or in this case 'more brightness more better'
and i am watching this in SDR display. nice
Been using RTX 4x video super resolution and RTX HDR with anime for a while now, and man does it look good.
Hey! What do you use for the quality setting leave it on auto?
heres a tech tip, Win+Alt+B turns HDR on/off on windows, Ctrl+Shift+Win+B will restart your graphics driver which is very helpful if you're a G9 owner and run dual displays that are both connected with DP and your gpu decides it doesn't want to wake the G9 from sleep
Now this is a cool and useful video. Thanks LTT.
Unrelated to the topic, but I love Wicked City and now I'm going to watch it again tonight!
did you know they was a live action movie of wicked city as well? unfortunately I havent been able to find a watchable version but I remember it popping on hbo way back in the day late at night
@@papapun I would definitely love to see that!
Honestly, I really wish Windows would just fix the gamma and color issues with SDR content on HDR. That would be so much more convenient. I had to guess that this video was going to be in HDR then toggle it and then click the video.😒😮💨 As for RTX hdr, I think it is pretty cool and can really demonstrate how hdr could look, however as someone who spent a good chunk of change on a color-accurate and an actual hdr-capable display, I obviously care about the artist's intent much more (Edit: I think video looks much better and more purposeful with an accurate display as well). What I hope this does, is bring a wider spread adoption for actual HDR content!😁👍 Awesome video!
I'm kinda starting to doubt the value of artistic intent in video as well. In music it has been long accepted that the neutral analytical audio the audio engineer uses to create the master, isn't the indented way of enjoying the music. What audio engineers, quite often I think, do is they master the audio to sound the best on most audio devices. With all the issues of compressions, software issues and in-monitor post processing, it's damn near impossible to get true artistic intent, whatever that means. Maybe whoever works on colour balance and contrast in videos, also just target the best quality for most screens instead of one truth.
And I have calibrated high end monitor for mastering purposes, though mostly for colour accuracy for web design. The screen is not a great multimedia monitor.
@TealJosh Yeah, that's fair. For me, it's about what I feel is subjectively better as well. For audio, I feel that a neutral response with a med bass boost is best. Like with audio, I start with whatever is standard and build from there based on taste with whatever. In video, I feel more like adjustments are made for artistic reasons rather than fitting the average display and are done on calibrated accurate displays. Therefore, I always prefer display standard accuracy. Video started and was mainly watched on theater displays and when home displays became more mainstream, they always tried to adhere to standards, unlike audio(mainly because of the difference between analog tech difficulty, especially when it was created, and how widespread personal devices became just after the tech was developed). Even now, movies are made to be consumed on highly standardized displays that are similar to the mastering displays, unlike studio monitors in audio where they expect everyones devices to be different with little power to actually make meaningful changes in accuracy (I do think audio production is starting to shift toward standardization now too). Although tvs do tons of processing, every one is a little different in some significant way and I don't think anyone, especially professionals who care more than the average person about quality, are going to put a ton of effort in trying to master content to look only ok on every display and perfect on none, when they are trying to show us their creations. Anyone can adjust their settings anyway, thanks to that same digital processing tech, also unlike audio where the majority of devices don't have any dsp or some insignificant and niche form of it. Subjectively, I don't think there is a single setting I would change from standard(not saying default/manufacturer) not just because I think it is objectively better but because I actually like the way it looks, like how some people actually prefer more saturated contrasty and bright representations.
Windows is working Auto-HDRing all of windows which is apparently the easier/better way to do it cause all the old programs from various places wont be updated. Much of this has already been does successfully on Xbox for a while now. I think they were already testing some of that on newer preview builds of windows
@@TealJoshLOL, no. Audio, just like film, is mastered on reference monitors which are better than any consumer electronics you can find. If you were unfortunate enough to do it on a device that would look the best on an average device, it would look terrible in a lot of devices. Simply because capabilities differ greatly and you simply cannot produce a good enough work without working on the best device you can find to master. And you simply cannot worry about all the other devices because they're always changing and so if it sounds or looks good on your reference monitor, it WILL look good on other devices, as long as those devices are not terribly miscalibrated. That's why it's crucial to have correctly calibrated display and proper speakes without any equalisation going on.
While HDR is the same, it is a technical necessity as well and so unless a film is remastered in HDR, it isn't a terrible thing to do and it might just be the next best thing to real HDR. Obviously the algorithm Nvidia uses has no knowledge of the color grading decisions so it will just work auto and with some AI assist I suppose, which will sometimes conflict with the artist's intent, like the bar scene.
@@berkertaskiran Audio engineers do take into consideration the different mediums and environments when making their mixes. A common place is the car. If your mix sounds good in an average sedan, you're some kind of wizard. Regarding HDR I would bet that the original artists would love to have this kind of tech at their disposal at the time of creation, displays being able to show the lights shine through masks just like old animation cels. And unless we have the original cel or master copy, we don't even know if the SDR bar scene is supposed to look like that in the first place, we just assume that as the reference. After all the scanning, taping, digitization, compression, and streaming steps, especially for retro content, there seems to be enough wiggle room for RTX HDR to not heavily interfere with "artists' intent". And at some point its fine to just enjoy things instead of chasing numbers all the time. RTX HDR makes it fun to go back and watch old content. And a lot of the time it is more enjoyable- Gundam lasers lighting up your face? It's sick! Who'da known newer tech can make old stuff look better? and I say this as a former colorist. Stuff's cool
Oooh HDR footage ! Exciting
I have a Samsung G8 OLED, and wow this thing is so revealing when it comes to SDR streaming content (and even streaming HDR is meh...). I can turn on all the de-noising features of the monitor, but then that introduces lag.
The NVidia driver's HDR button and the super resolution has made streaming okay on that screen, where it's no longer a distraction of how crappy online compression is. This is such a good feature to have on, more so on OLEDs. However it does make white things on video pop more than it should, to a humors degree at times. Also make sure to couple this with the windows 10/11 Windows HDR color calibrator, and you can help control the over saturation.
Unironic use of the Futurama fry meme of take my money if the shield 2 has hdr and super resolution 😱
Newer shields have a form of super resolution.
@@justbob8294unfortunately, the "newer" shields aren't new at all, and the upscaling isn't anywhere close to what the new tech can do.
Oh boy right, just in time for my HOME THEATER
You do realize that a "Home Theater PC" doesn't require a home theater, right?
HTPCs have almost always just been paired with regular TVs.
without enabling this and only have HDR enabled in windows like it used to be oversaturated many things thanks for letting me know
Who remembers the old LTT intro? i missed hearing LASZLO'S Supernova song play on the intro, it was nostalgic, and epic! heck. i just found out that linus even played it in beat saber!
Why does the video look so dark?
HDR I'd guess
HDR. Play it in full screen on a compatible device and it should work fine
@@ExperiencersInternationalit looks like shit though. And i can't disable it
Yeah on non hdr displays it looks trash and im clicking off and i think alot will do the same
@@ShoryYTP that's probably an issue with your monitor idk
It didn't look particularly stunning to me though on a Pixel 6 Pro at full brightness
I LOVE when LTT upload HDR content but wtf have you done to this video it's so dark and flat and only 1080p ? Is this UA-cam horrendous HDR processing or LTTs fault ?
Probably isn't done processing, it was uploaded less than 20 minutes ago.
I was thinking the same thing. but considering how much they have invested in their camera and editing gears, it's probably just UA-cam hasn't finished processing the 4k version yet.
looks fine when actually watching in hdr to me (ipad pro 12.9 5th gen). maybe it’s not in full screen or playing in sdr for some reason?
Hasn't finished processing. Now it has reached 1440 HDR. Waiting for 4k.. it's weird though because you would expect Linus would have uploaded and scheduled the video days ago so the processing wouldn't be happening after it's launch.
@@danieltober8574Nah I'm watching in HDR and it does look dark. There's another comment saying the color grading is off too.
Watching this on the LG Wing in HDR was fun hahaha, I need more HDR content now
One big issue with SDR to HDR is how to deGamma the SDR content into linear before scaling it to the nits range you want for your 2084-PQ encoding. There's a lot of guessing, 2.2 vs sRGB vs bt.1886 etc, not all content is tagged correctly.
These videos in SDR look bad. Whites look grey. Every time they show a screenshot from a webpage, it's like the brightness from my screen goes to its lowest and everything is dull
Ray traced audio
This one will be by far the hardest to do. Not much you can do to spread sounds around unless they make it working in game
Watching on a 4K hdr10/vision tv you could absolutely tell the difference. Glad to see UA-cam on Apple TV supporting hdr video content now!
In February I got my first RTX card and I tinkered a while with the ML features Nvidia provides and I was really surprised what they delivered considering its just a switch you can flip in the software.I am really excited so see what they can achieve with the hardware on board in the future
It's really just a variance of the "Digital Vibrance" they have had for centuries. This has the same effect as the Digital vibrance to easy over saturate the collors if you don't go very easy on how much effect you add. I don't think you can realisticly make an SD film look as good as a real HDR recording, neither with AI in the mix.
I think it can get close, just not yet.
Ive messed with both and the rtx hdr does more than just saturate the colours. It does look close and in some circumstances better than graded content, there are a few instances where it misses the mark though especially on 2d content like cartoons.
It changes the brightness of different areas of the scene as well
Maybe I'm just a pleb, but I really don't care. I only own one HDR device, my Samsung s23, and I can't tell when something is HDR or SDR. It just doesn't matter to me.
I used to feel the same, until I actually had a good HDR TV.
Set the brightness manually to maximum when watching Hdr on UA-cam on your phone, things like Netflix do it automatically
seeing the differences in the video on an old TN panel is crazy but just like when google set everyone's resolution to 720p I did not change it back to auto because I didn't care.
same, but my iphone 13 pro max absolutely BLINDS me when i watch HDR content so i just... don't watch anything that's HDR on it, despite it being my highest resolution screen available.
@@LolingtonerI have a samsung tv with really good hdr and it defaulted to 40% brightness. Turning it up seemed to work a lot
I still have my windows media center remote. In fact, I still use it every day... Just with Kodi instead of WMC. But it still works great.
That shirt linus was wearing was a great test for it, made the colors totally pop in it compared to sdr :)
720p only?
Too early, wait a few minutes
@@maxdubois6385 like? After few mins i’ll ve able to watch it in 4k?
@@dhruvalpatel7020 its in 4k now
bro made a video on a filter
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i was just thinking about how the seques have been less crafty lately and then you guys hit me with that 😂
I'm using Rtx VSR & HDR on Rtx 2060 super with Samsung s8 4k hdr monitor for more than 2 months and it's amazing.
I just want to say, as a person that has epilepsy, I really appreciate the warnings. Nothing in your videos has triggered me yet, but thanks for the heads-up ❤
The DOOM gameplay with flashing enemies and quick lighting changes didn't have a seizure warning preceding it and I started seizing up on the floor. Disappointed. Linus should have accommodated my disability better.
Still wish there was an [HDR] indicator somewhere to let us know to enable HDR in windows, pre-watching.
Could you maybe have a quick little embedded logo, or something in the title.
Thanks, and love the content. Gonna have to try this out soon.
Love HDR, if and when it's done right. :)
Pro tip, if you have dual monitors you can still use RTX HDR with games via nvidia profile inspector (I reverted back to Geforce and the control panel also, not sure if that's necessary too)
how do you use profile inspector to turn on RTX HDR?
The color grading on this video is bad. It looks like everything has it's gamma seriously messed up. The grey video inserts are seriously bad.
I never really liked HDR, there has been nothing I’ve ever done where I’m like “wow I wish I had HDR right now”
this video was the first such moment for me haha
it's mainly for media consumption, and you can really see it with your own eyes and not on some hdr reviews. it is so good for 4k movies
I’m sorry HDR content is amazing. Especially on an OLED
The people who say these are always those that never saw a proper HDR display before....
(HDR400 doesn't count, has to be at least OLED HDR400 True Black or HDR1000 for LCDs with zones)
Just to increase functionality on the RTX products while not really using the RT or tensor cores of the GPU. HDR displays have greater color gamut and capable of higher brightness, but stretching SDR content to these specs causes oversaturation. The brightness implementation is correct that only highlights get boosted but it could be too much or distracting on whites like that on sample on the tennis court.
Shield 2 would be amazing. Sadly a home theater PC usually has limitations such as lack of Dolby Vision support and limited audio codec support. Afaik Kodi is also more well rounded on Android than on Windows.
HDR is truly the audiophilia of today. like what, the shape of her face is better visible because the image is brighter??
Yes, actually. HDR is more about contrast than actual brightness. More contrast = more defined edge recognition.
Yep. HDR is just a meme. HDR would have a reason to exist if it was just expanded bit depth, but instead it's just marketing [censortube censors this word]. The worst part about it is that everything would be improved if it wasn't dynamic, but then they couldn't use it to push TV sales. If they just used static 16 bit depth, which they can, then it wouldn't be a meme.
It's like RGB in computers and peripherals.
The people who say these are always those that never saw a proper HDR display before....
(HDR400 doesn't count, has to be at least OLED HDR400 True Black or HDR1000 for LCDs with zones)
@@ChaosSwissroIl this is so wrong it hurts lol. play a game in HDR on a modern qdoled like the alienware DWF and you will lose your marbles at how much better it looks compared to SDR
i'm worried LTT is backpaddling on their promise to scale back video production, we're back to basically daily uploads, and it's beginning to feel too ... saturated, in a way. i'd love for them to slow down again.
video production quality has only gone up since then. I don't see any problem.
I’ve been thinking the same that they have gone back to pumping content out.
That corporate apology wasn't real, it was just to get the wolves off their back, they NEED daily videos for engagement. BUT they have enough staff to drop 1 video a day with correct planning.
So long as they’re going through the appropriate steps and checks to ensure their videos are factual correct and accurate, what’s the problem? They’ve said multiple times they were incorporating new processes to review their videos before release to make sure they were up to par.
If they’re staying true to this commitment, then slowing down releases doesn’t change anything. If they’re on top of their game, slowing down just for the sake of slowing down, doesn’t make any sense. The quality of their videos lately has been amazing, and so long as they’re doing what they said they will in the background, I’ll eat it up. When the quality of the videos plummets and has inaccurate information, then it will matter.
Cry more
In 10:29 they're comparing real HDR v/s RTX HDR running on 2 different monitor models - left is a curved Alienware and right looks like a flat MSI. Would have been a better, more apples-to-apples comparison if the monitor model was kept consistent so the only difference between the two would be the type of HDR used. The monitors could have different color reproduction capabilities, the curvature itself changes the viewing experience, and we're comparing native HDR v/s RTX HDR. Any or all of these characteristics could affect your qualitative judgement of the picture, so it is important to change only one parameter and keep everything else the same - in this case, keep the same monitor make & model.
The original HTPC I built in 2009 still works. Runs Win 7 with Media Center. Basically it's my ripped DVD collection. I migrated to Fire TV + TV Recast but guess what: WMC was still a better DVR experience.
I don't see how fake HDR is a 'killer app'. I have never wished for old content to be HDR.
you're one in 100,000 with that one buddy
Bro doesn’t understand free will 😂
Using a poor HDR display could absolutely color opinions this way. My buddy used a garbage pc display and hated HDR until he saw it done on a quality screen. 400 is crap.
Nah, I don't really want to watch content with unintended extra colors.
I don’t care what u don’t watch gtoh
Is it unintended if its a game that has support for hdr but your monitor doesnt ?
@@itzmadness5897 no it means the game is capable of producing more colors but if your monitor cant produce it then it only use the limit of your monitor
@@Chris-ih4hj Ah, gotcha! That's fair then.
I watched this on my home theater/gaming PC in my living room. I'm going to try it with some old movies later
the shot of the computeur was impressive
I'm still not completely convinced that HDR isn't a "fake tech"
You can get to something pretty close to HDR just by enhancing brightness and contrast, and I feel like the TV sets just don't go all the way they can on SDR content
YEP
You're not going to be convinced until you actually experience the wow factor of properly implemented HDR and most displays don't hit the dynamic range required. Unfortunately you really need to use a flagship TV to get there as monitors have fallen short (with a few exceptions).
I can assure you that HDR video is not a gimmick but you need to see it at a screen capable of outputting above 1500 nits of light, preferably with Quantum Dot technology to be able to show vibrant colors. It can mske you feel like a gimmick until you see that
I can say of all the display features they try to push HDR is by far the most noticeable change you can make. brightness and contrast can get you some of the benefit but no average tv/monitor can fake Full Array Local Dimming much less avoid color banding if it's not a native 10+bit .
I think an ideal implementation of this tech would be to have it togglable for each piece of media, rather than a global setting, that way you can enable/disable it as desired depending on what your watching and how the regrading affect it.
Been using faux HDR on my BenQ Mobiuz monitor for a few years. It's not the greatest, but it sure as heck is convenient by being enabled with the push of a button. I pretty much play every game with it on, and I don't have to deal with support/Windows issues.
Be useful if you could use the tech in something like ffmpeg / Handbrake to encode old content upto a "HDR" like version.