Wyatt Earp & John Wayne

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  • @ryanh9183
    @ryanh9183 3 місяці тому +16

    This was such a perfect treat. You could've easily felt it wasn't worth your time but I think shows you care about your audience and I thank you for it.

  • @WVF112469
    @WVF112469 3 місяці тому +10

    Good to have your program for our group in the Oregon State mental institution, Salem, Oregon. We were on lockdown last week and missed the program. Thank you for your work, it heals our souls.

  • @whatyaworkingontoday5018
    @whatyaworkingontoday5018 3 місяці тому +6

    Hollywood is not really my favorite topic, but I’ll tell ya Josh, you nailed this narration big time! I learned new stuff, laught my ass off, and found new resources. My favorite history channel! Yeehaw!!!

  • @fatherofmimes4236
    @fatherofmimes4236 3 місяці тому +5

    Happened to be working late tonight and was absolutely excited when the notification went off! Thanks yet again Josh for making my evening tolerable. Doing so with some of my favorite subjects, John Wayne and Wyatt Earp. I will be back to check out the links as well. You take care and Thanks again for so much excellent content!

  • @kansaswalls6291
    @kansaswalls6291 3 місяці тому +12

    Thank you, Josh! I needed something to get lost in today. It's been a rough one. Keep it rolling partners

    • @AxtionMag
      @AxtionMag 3 місяці тому +4

      I hope your day gets better!!

    • @fatherofmimes4236
      @fatherofmimes4236 3 місяці тому +3

      Ditto on hoping your day improves!

    • @jakeroberts7435
      @jakeroberts7435 3 місяці тому +2

      Shits getting crazy, if it ain't It'll do 'till crazy gets here.

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  2 місяці тому

      Hope things are getting better

  • @nickelliott1174
    @nickelliott1174 3 місяці тому +22

    Wayne was 34 when the war came to America, and the Generals running the war wanted him here making patriotic films and selling war bonds. He was just an actor, nothing more and nothing less!

    • @JaimeTanner-b2i
      @JaimeTanner-b2i 3 місяці тому +1

      Duke Wayne got his walk from football injuries and was 35 when the war came. He talked up the real vats and gave many breaks in his films.

    • @JaimeTanner-b2i
      @JaimeTanner-b2i 3 місяці тому +8

      @@t.a.7970 what do you want? He flat-out failed his induction physical and was asked to stay home and make movies, so he did. It's not like we lost the war without him. He never bragged on any accomplishments he didn't have, that was a thousand drill instructors ragging on their troops to buckle their chin-straps. He was good at playing soldiers and cowboys, even though he never was one. Should he cry about it? You want some sort of compensation because he never actually stormed My. Suribachi?

    • @guytwombly2955
      @guytwombly2955 3 місяці тому +4

      He was worth more to Washington alive, not dead he was a national treasure to the WW2 generation.

    • @maryannweldin4633
      @maryannweldin4633 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nickelliott1174 but a good one and hedid his job

    • @AnastasiaRomanov-w9x
      @AnastasiaRomanov-w9x 3 місяці тому +2

      @@JaimeTanner-b2i I don’t believe that. He walked with a swagger. I can’t stand that kind of hubris. Was never a fan of JW.

  • @themulletteer6839
    @themulletteer6839 3 місяці тому +7

    Greatful for the drop. Makes the Wednesdays better.

  • @jonbates5873
    @jonbates5873 3 місяці тому +6

    Thanks for your great work man !!!

  • @indivisible885
    @indivisible885 3 місяці тому +3

    I used to work with Wyatt's great-grandsons. A couple of them share a striking resemblance. And they are from super nice to super tough, everything that is portrayed of Wyatt in "tombstone"

    • @Idahoguy10157
      @Idahoguy10157 3 місяці тому

      I knew a Jean Earp in the navy. 1977-80. Claimed he was a descendant of those Earps. Was from Arizona. He doesn’t go to ship’s reunions. No one where he went too

    • @indivisible885
      @indivisible885 3 місяці тому

      @@Idahoguy10157 the brother that delivered lumber to us was John Earp, in the early 90's. He had a handlebar mustache and from a short distance, looked a helluva lot like the pictures I've since seen of Wyatt. It wasn't brought up in conversation, that they were descendance of a famous historical figure. I worked side by side with the youngest brother and didn't find out until years later about the connection. Then it was like a lightbulb turning on in my head. Had I known earlier, I would have had many questions about what they knew, historically

    • @Idahoguy10157
      @Idahoguy10157 3 місяці тому

      @@indivisible885 … I recall Jean talked of having a sister. IDK about having a brother. He grew up in Ajo, Az. A mining town

    • @shaner9155
      @shaner9155 3 місяці тому

      @@indivisible885 To the best of my knowledge Wyatt never had any children so of course no grandchildren.

  • @stevenmullens511
    @stevenmullens511 3 місяці тому +5

    I have heard over after John Wayne death on others biographys was that John Wayne met Wyatt earp at foxx Studies, and John Wayne and Wyatt earp would eat lunch together.

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  2 місяці тому +2

      Same here. Just can't find any facts to back it up.

    • @donc9751
      @donc9751 2 дні тому

      Hearing from those who were there at the time to witness John Wayne and Wyatt Earp having lunch together is good enough for me! The picture works just fine in my mind so I'm going with the story that they did in "fact" have lunch together at some point in their times on the sets.
      Great info Josh! I love the hard work you put into developing all this famous American history for your viewers enjoyment! You have the best channel covering the American west on the net!!! I love your work!

  • @LongdistanceRider22
    @LongdistanceRider22 3 місяці тому +5

    He was a Legendary Actor !

  • @jjslick13
    @jjslick13 2 місяці тому +1

    I first heard your podcast about a month ago and i think I've gone back and listened to a majority of your back catalogue. Great job man! I listen damn near every day while driving to job sites and it always makes my day start well! Looking forward to more brother, cheers and God bless

  • @31terikennedy
    @31terikennedy 3 місяці тому +5

    What says a lot about Earp's character is that Bat Masterson thought well of him.

  • @phillipallen3259
    @phillipallen3259 3 місяці тому +5

    I'm of the mind that Wyatt was neither good nor bad, but human. He was a man of his time. Many men of his time would put on a mask or a badge depending on their needs. The Movie industry made him a hero as they did with many old west figures. He had a larger than life personality that I don't think any film has gotten completely correct.

  • @absonus
    @absonus 2 місяці тому +3

    In the eighties I worked with the grandson of Tom Mix . He said little about Earp unfortunately .Only that his grandfather wasn`t a very pleasant man and had blown all the money he`d made in the film industry.

  • @odinsson204
    @odinsson204 3 місяці тому +6

    Wooohoooo!!!! The Duke!!

  • @robertstanfill2360
    @robertstanfill2360 3 місяці тому +9

    My darling clementine is my favorite western of all time. Our favorite john Wayne movies are mclintock Donovan reef she wore a yellow ribbon and fort apache. Keep up the great work josh. Kiss your baby girl for me hug your wife too.❤❤Phoenix and Chewbacca mom

  • @johnndavis7647
    @johnndavis7647 3 місяці тому +5

    An actor is a story teller. He or she is always looking for a good story to tell.

  • @dannysimmons3167
    @dannysimmons3167 3 місяці тому +2

    Great one Josh . Good story about a fine actor and great American

  • @washingtonradio
    @washingtonradio 3 місяці тому +3

    I think the real question about Wayne and Earp is not whether they knew each other but how well. Given they many of the sample people, it's possible they met at least casually. But Wayne always gave credit to others for their influence on his acting which would indicate if he knew Earp, it was a casual acquaintance not a friendship.

  • @suev3339
    @suev3339 2 місяці тому +1

    Love finding Paul Fix acting long before he was Marshal at North Fork in The Rifleman. He’s a great actor - bad guy!

  • @johndecker9983
    @johndecker9983 3 місяці тому +4

    Double dang son. Love the Duke

  • @joelgoad6864
    @joelgoad6864 3 місяці тому +3

    Good Show as always Josh and yes bring on John Slaughter

  • @Idahoguy10157
    @Idahoguy10157 3 місяці тому +3

    Paul Fix was the town marshall in The Rifleman tv show

  • @Lobo-tommy10
    @Lobo-tommy10 3 місяці тому +5

    I remember a neat story about Wayne at a shipyard pushing the whole ship in the water after it hung up.

  • @dwaynemeeks7583
    @dwaynemeeks7583 3 місяці тому +3

    Im 64 & Audie Murphy was my first hero. Still my best hero of all time

  • @williamemerson1799
    @williamemerson1799 3 місяці тому +3

    Had a friend who lived out on the left coast for a period of time. Said he and a friend were on a dock fishing when a fella came over to invite them to a boat for a drink. George, never one to turn down a snort or six, joined the crew. One of the gentlemen happened to be John Wayne. Don't know if it was his boat or not. George said he was the real deal, whatever that meant, and was a very affable fellow. 👍🍻

  •  3 місяці тому +1

    Superb show unable to sleep but loved listening to you as great talker

  • @SirXCornflake
    @SirXCornflake 2 місяці тому +1

    Keep em coming, Josh!!

  • @fritzpollard266
    @fritzpollard266 2 місяці тому +1

    Amazing work this was awesome.

  • @maryannweldin4633
    @maryannweldin4633 3 місяці тому +2

    My Uncle rode with Yakama. He did stunts and a few bit parts but he was a rodeo bronc rider had three world championships. His name was Hippy Burmister. Yak came to the ranch for hunting trips. Ben Johnson came too

  • @JWsGarage
    @JWsGarage 3 місяці тому +2

    Fun fact up until the late 90’s a good portion of Hollywood stuntmen were also professional rodeo cowboys.

  • @Rollin_L
    @Rollin_L 3 місяці тому +2

    There is a short video here on UA-cam that talks of this. Legend or reality, it does feature Ethan Wayne stating what his father told him, that he "plays Wyatt Earp" in certain characters, or ""he goes in like Wyatt Earp" in particular scenes. He doesn't specifically say they met, but that he did imitate Wyatt. That's perhaps the closest we will get to evidence for their meeting.

  • @OffRampTourist
    @OffRampTourist 3 місяці тому +1

    I love The Big Trail. Also Rio Bravo. Also fun to see him as a young Naval officer in Seven Sinners, with Marlene the year before she and James Stewart made my favorite western Destry Rides. Again.

    • @davidsloan3480
      @davidsloan3480 3 місяці тому +2

      Destry rides again… damn, haven’t thought of that movie in years, brings back memories, different times

    • @OffRampTourist
      @OffRampTourist 3 місяці тому +1

      @@davidsloan3480 I'm a big fan of films full of familiar and beloved 'character actors' and this one definitely qualifies. Also Seven Sinners - not only the same female lead as Destry Rides Again but several of the same character actors. Naval officer Wayne instead of Deputy Stewart and an island saloon instead of a western saloon but the same barkeep etc.

  • @Mr05Chuck
    @Mr05Chuck 3 місяці тому +5

    Generation Z has no clue who John Wayne was or is. Pity.

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  2 місяці тому +2

      I know a lot of Gen Z people who know who John Wayne is. He's one of the most recognizable actors of all time. My daughter is 3 and she doesn't know who he is yet, though.

  • @guytwombly2955
    @guytwombly2955 3 місяці тому +1

    Just saw Paul Fixx on an episode of the rifleman today, so recognizable and yet until you showed him I never knew his name,huh?

  • @damianorsini3578
    @damianorsini3578 3 місяці тому +4

    Hey Josh I made it on time today lol

    • @snapdragon6601
      @snapdragon6601 3 місяці тому +2

      It's nice to be early for once. 👍🙂

  • @beau4129
    @beau4129 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you sir!

  • @AntoneLang2
    @AntoneLang2 3 дні тому +1

    Paul Fix also played Micah on the '60s tv show, the Rifleman.

  • @charliepearson156
    @charliepearson156 3 місяці тому +1

    Just heard about the lawman Burton Mossman story in the tail end of the wild and wooly west with Augustine Chacon. Could be an awesome episode!

  • @TD-mg6cd
    @TD-mg6cd 12 днів тому +1

    At 1:40, when you're talking about Wyatt, you show a picture of his brother, Virgil.

  • @frederickburke9944
    @frederickburke9944 3 місяці тому +2

    Harry Carey Jr had a part in Tombstone.

  • @chaffcutter58.
    @chaffcutter58. 3 місяці тому +1

    Josh , we are in Outback Australia, listening to you,, after a day on the track is what we enjoy, AND you best get that role in Young guns 3, cause we sent a letter from us to Emilio bloke we all signed it,except for "Aspro" ...slow working dope, so keep your eye out for it.

  • @MicahBell_1860
    @MicahBell_1860 3 місяці тому +2

    Happy trails, Cowpoke

  • @colinjohn2708
    @colinjohn2708 2 місяці тому +1

    The famous Harry Rimmer the antievolutionist lecturer whose life is outlined in his wife Mignons book " Fire Inside" is said to have watched Wyatt Earp practice his drawing and shooting at the town dump in Stocton when Harry was a young boy. This is mentioned in Harrys son Brandons semifactual book " In The Fullness of Time". Harry lived from about 1894 to 1951 and so in his youth he quite possibly did ser him. Colin John Aussie. PS I actually corresponded with Harrys wife in the 1980s.

  • @rangerb8594
    @rangerb8594 2 місяці тому +1

    Love your content

  • @terynmonroe496
    @terynmonroe496 16 днів тому +1

    Oh guaranteed Doc would find this all fucking hilarious 😂

  • @plymouthduster225
    @plymouthduster225 3 місяці тому +2

    Supposedly from what I read (not sure how much fact is in this) John Wayne met Wyatt Earp on the set of the film Mother Machree which was filmed from September to November 1926. I don't know how accurate that is or how much truth if any there is too to it just what I read online.

  • @McDanielRanch
    @McDanielRanch 3 місяці тому +2

    I was named after quirt evens of angel and the bad man. Know 2 other people named quirt from the same movie. It and the man who shoot liberty is my fav jw movies. like his young cocky style. He grew out of it fast.

  • @Idahoguy10157
    @Idahoguy10157 3 місяці тому +1

    As much as Earp was on movie lots Wayne meeting Earp would not be any surprise

  • @Bobbysixgun
    @Bobbysixgun 3 місяці тому +1

    Stay golden pony boy lol great video Josh

  • @scottmcley5111
    @scottmcley5111 3 місяці тому +2

    Marion Morrison, born about an hour away from me. 👍

    • @peterharris9022
      @peterharris9022 3 місяці тому

      @@scottmcley5111 who calls their boy marion*

    • @scottmcley5111
      @scottmcley5111 3 місяці тому

      @peterharris9022 My Grandfather. Least I'm not sharing a last name with Kamala Harris. 👍

  • @Bobbysixgun
    @Bobbysixgun 3 місяці тому +1

    Love John Wayne my favorite John Wayne movies all have Bruce Dern in them Derns the shit

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  3 місяці тому +1

      I know he was in the cowboys

    • @Bobbysixgun
      @Bobbysixgun 3 місяці тому +1

      @WildWestExtravaganza yeah lol it's just th3 cowboys I love that movie support your local sheriff is what I was thinking of though

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  3 місяці тому +1

      @@Bobbysixgun I don’t think I’ve seen that one, I remember the name though

    • @Bobbysixgun
      @Bobbysixgun 3 місяці тому +1

      @@WildWestExtravaganza it's hilarious

  • @adamdavies1068
    @adamdavies1068 3 місяці тому +1

    G'day mate great video as always 👍. I don't know what you know about Australia during our colonial period. We have many similarities with the wild west. Our outlaws were called "Bushrangers." Our colonial years were as violent, racist and bloodsoaked as any of the stories you've told here. If you're interested check out Dan "Madog" Morgan, Ben Hall and his gang, and of course our most infamous bushranger Ned Kelly. Due to horrific treatment treatment by colonial authorities they became murderous folk heroes. We have a saying from those times that's still used today for someone who's missed the obvious. "Blind Freddy could have seen that." It's s mocking reference to Inspector Sir Frederick Pottinger who tried and failed to catch Ben Hall 😅

  • @snapdragon6601
    @snapdragon6601 3 місяці тому +1

    I don't know if he really met Wyat Earp but I kinda doubt it. It seems like if he did, Wayne would have retold that story to many people over his lifetime that would have been repeated in one of the many books that have been written about him.

  • @Craig-l5q
    @Craig-l5q 2 місяці тому

    To the guy who generously said im struggling with "big words". Calling me a troll was great . Unfortunately they are one of the very few fish i have reeled in lately so im taking the opportunity to advise them to capitalise the first letter of the first word that follows a question mark. If they could give me any more lessons in the English language I will be very grateful. Thanks again.

  • @KeithKucera
    @KeithKucera 3 місяці тому

    Some people dont know it but the kgb was after the duke is why he had an island in the san juans and his own patrol boat .

  • @DSToNe19and83
    @DSToNe19and83 3 місяці тому +1

    It’s well know that erp was a consultant for early westerns..

  • @DaleMontdale-xd1mc
    @DaleMontdale-xd1mc 3 місяці тому +1

    Hell yes!!

  • @Craig-l5q
    @Craig-l5q 2 місяці тому +1

    If you enjoy joshes work smash the like button or gently press it.

  • @iowaairsoftmilitia516
    @iowaairsoftmilitia516 Місяць тому

    I heard that John Wayne's nickname was the queen of Hollywood

  • @3nheaven
    @3nheaven 3 місяці тому +1

    My first movie with JW was In Harms Way . The seduction of Maggie is pretty cool .

  • @tonyisaac
    @tonyisaac 3 місяці тому +1

    Y always gad heard that John Wayne was Wyatts coffee boy in his early days

  • @snappers_antique_firearms
    @snappers_antique_firearms 3 місяці тому +1

    Once again seems so many things people believe to be true might be made up. Or at least greatly exaggerated

  • @KingPhilipF
    @KingPhilipF 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm gonna Earp-it-up and name my kid Enuos Kannut.
    Like a boy named sue
    He's gonna make it or not

  • @speakupriseup4549
    @speakupriseup4549 3 місяці тому +1

    If only on top of the CRACKs they added a few KAPOWs, THWACKs and ZAPs his book could have been a hit.

  • @1134beerman
    @1134beerman 6 днів тому +1

    You said “ Sadie “ I thought warp’s wife was Josephine?

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  6 днів тому

      Correct. Her name was Josephine. Her pet name was Sadie, just a nickname.

  • @ferengiprofiteer6908
    @ferengiprofiteer6908 3 місяці тому

    Wyatt Earp was Hugh O'Brien and his buntline special.

    • @johnnyc1227
      @johnnyc1227 3 місяці тому

      Hugh O'brian had a big head thought he was fastest draw of anyone but was shown up by an advisor. Hugh had him fired. Surprising his head fit on the screen.

  • @fast6232
    @fast6232 3 місяці тому +1

    Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?

  • @julesotis13
    @julesotis13 3 місяці тому +1

    U deserve endless praise for countless reasons but ill settle on one here .... saying in one thought neeekid women wild west and man crush lol

  • @carlyk7322
    @carlyk7322 3 місяці тому +1

    I favour William Boyd, he had charisma, authentic fights, authentic riding and what a charming laugh. John Wayne’s early acting was not so great. I guess he got better with age.

  • @silverstar4289
    @silverstar4289 3 місяці тому +1

    Interesting contrast on Earp. He openly talked with Hollywood actors and directors about his past, but Bob Boze Bell describes an interview Earp sat through in which for two hours, he barely said a word. Yep, uh…. Sounds about right. Apparently was candid when he thought it would get him something

  • @williamschristopher12
    @williamschristopher12 3 місяці тому +1

    I am not talking trash about Wayne to any Texan, but I have always liked Eastwood better…my father was born in Jersey and loved the Duke…so go figure
    There’s an old urban legend in San Diego, that Earp stayed at a hotel/inn in downtown area…right where Padres stadium is now

  • @Craig-l5q
    @Craig-l5q 3 місяці тому

    John Wayne's father wore women's clothes and this is why Wayne's real first name was marrion curiously. He never went to war due to the war department having him down as a woman. True story (possibly)😅

  • @jrbonner5858
    @jrbonner5858 8 днів тому

    wayne got his walk from yakima cunutt.
    wayne worked with him on the stage coach movie .
    that's what wayne says anyway .

  • @jimmyjohnjuan
    @jimmyjohnjuan 3 місяці тому +1

    Maybe his reputation was bad but atleast he had sadie.

  • @greghardy9476
    @greghardy9476 2 місяці тому +1

    The Earps were no angels. Spoiler: virtually zero old west heroes were angels. By all accounts Bass Reeves WAS what Earp was purported to be.

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  2 місяці тому

      Bass was jailed for murder. I agree, virtually none of these people were heroes. They did lead fascinating lives, though.

  • @dwaynemeeks7583
    @dwaynemeeks7583 3 місяці тому

    Doesnt matter if you are good at fisticuffs if the other guy has a gun

  • @hbrowneyes4981
    @hbrowneyes4981 2 місяці тому

    I thought John Wayne walked like he did was because he had small feet .

  • @user-000-77.
    @user-000-77. 3 місяці тому +1

    I never knew this just thought he copied a guy who shat his pance 😂🤣

  • @B3astmode131
    @B3astmode131 3 місяці тому +1

    Yah!!!!!

  • @77mudvayne
    @77mudvayne 3 місяці тому

    My aunt is an Earp. The Earps are Jewish.

  • @jayfelsberg1931
    @jayfelsberg1931 3 місяці тому +2

    There is a story in a John Wayne book I have her Wayne is at dunner at the Careys and was bitching about being4 stuck in B roles. Mrs. Carey asked Wayne if he was working regularly? Yes Were the checks god? Yes. Times are hard so quit complaining.
    Another rodeo cowboy who made it g4od in Hollywood was Ben Johnson overall winner at the Nineteen Forty Eight. Pendleton Roundup. Ben showed off his roping4 skills in Mighty Joe Young.

  • @indivisible885
    @indivisible885 3 місяці тому

    Murderous looking gun. They still talk that smack about how a gun "looks"

  • @gregrowell8688
    @gregrowell8688 3 місяці тому

    The military wouldn't wouldn't take him
    Something to do with feet.

  • @ChrisJames-o2t
    @ChrisJames-o2t 2 місяці тому

    Despite the fine narrator, John Wayne wasn't a very good actor beyond his earliest years (BEFORE the stated persona of an actual stiff emerged).

  • @notcherbane3218
    @notcherbane3218 2 місяці тому

    Passed on to his eternal reward, not quite sure where that expression came from And it sounds a little suspect from religious point of view, the only one that really knows whether a person receives a reward, is there maker. I've never really liked the term "rest in peace" it implies there is an alternative ? which really doesn't make any sense, religiously speaking, theres most likely only two options, You either go to purgatory or you go to heaven and if you're an atheist and don't believe in either one of those then you pretty much just cease to exist so there's no such thing as rest in peace

  • @billall2067
    @billall2067 3 місяці тому

    All I hear is Shane Gillis . Am I wrong? Great work.

  • @davidkachel
    @davidkachel 2 місяці тому

    Sorry. The magic attention-getting word is "shocking". When a youtube title contains the word "shocking', DO NOT CLICK ON IT!!! And do not watch it. Earp was a technical adviser on some movies. That's it.

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  2 місяці тому

      Sorry. The commenter is attempting to invoke magic/garner attention by using the word “shocking” in his comment. DO NOT FALL FOR IT!!! And do not engage. He’s a technical advisor to some internet trolls. That’s it.

  • @michaelmccotter4293
    @michaelmccotter4293 2 місяці тому +1

    Yakima Kanut.
    Sounds like Kanoot.
    Just saying.

  • @user-tg3tj2nq6v
    @user-tg3tj2nq6v 2 місяці тому

    Was Wyatt Earp a draft dodger too?

  • @KeithKucera
    @KeithKucera 3 місяці тому

    And the duke was to old for ww2

  • @justlimits2919
    @justlimits2919 3 місяці тому +1

    I love you videos brother you should do one on Hi Good hell of a story

  • @30.06onaGrassyKnoll
    @30.06onaGrassyKnoll 3 місяці тому +1

    before i watch this ill give my 2 cents...
    ive seen a lot of JW movies over the years and he always came off as an actor and never a cowboy, never anyone who ever lived the life.
    he always came off as someone playing a part. his persona always felt like a performance to me.
    the same with clint eastwood...hell vito mortienson in "410 to Yuma" gave a more authentic performance than both john wayne and clint eastwood.
    it may have been the time and how acting was done, but western actors today are so much more believeable.
    "Tombstone" is one of my fav westerns to this day... i know its not 100% accurate and doc holliday story line was pretty far from the truth but they all gave an amazingly believable performance.