DIY Conductive Paint for Electroforming
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Hello! This is my process for making my own conducive paint that I use for my electroformed work. I do not have editing software since I don't do videos very often, so I apologize for the long take, but I needed a way to explain it better.
A few things I left out:
The paint lasts at least a few months, I've always used it up before it went bad
You may want to remix it with the Dremel every couple of weeks, or every few uses
To see examples of my work, check my Instagram @venusarcanum
Hello all. Just wanted to make a suggestion. If you mix the graphite with acetone first then mix it with the paint it will mix up easily without power tools.
love how the matrix is playing in the background haha. Thanks for the money saving diy! ❤
Take a long bolt spin a wing nut all the way to the bottom [head of screw] those make a great mixing paddle
The black acrylic paint has carbon black which is going to be more conductive than any of the ingredients in white.
Hi Cora, Thanks for the 'no-nonsense' video. My kitchen is my laboratory too! ;-) Re. the paddle; I made one using a 3/16" dome head bolt (brass provides a rust free option), a nut to fit the bolt & a washer. I cut 3 notches into the washer. Use the hexagonal form of the nut to space the notches. You could use 6 notches but I found 3 sufficient. Finally, using pliers & a vise, or 2 pairs of pliers, twist the washer 'flanges' between your notches to get a fan profile. Secure this fan between the bolt head & the nut. A washer with a larger diameter is easier to manipulate. It's also a good idea to make 2 of these 'washer-fans.' Twist the vanes on one washer clockwise & the other counter-clockwise. Test them to see which works best with your Dremel's direction of rotation. One will be much less messy than the other! If you want to get really fancy you can round the corners of the washer vanes with a small triangular file. Brass washers are inexpensive so experimentation is recommended. I recently got a square nut & made a 4-vane fan. On this version I mounted the washer in place & cut to the flats on the nut rather than the corners. When I twisted the vanes they got an interesting profile as they bent around the nut's corners. I hope this rambling description helps. Regards, frank.
I love it you Playlist. Thansk for the tutorial.
Make a paddle using something you can flatten. For instance; you can drill 2 or 3 holes in the end of your bamboo stick there, put on latex gloves , knead up some 'QuickSteel' from Napa and smash it in there, get your paddle shape made. You can cut it nicely before it completely hardens. Beware; that stuff gets hot! Also, if you don't wear gloves you will get it stuck inside your skin. Another option is to melt milk carton in the oven at about 240F. Pour that into a sand mold. You don't have to use a dremel but it's higher rpm (good). You can just use a drill and drill bit, using your drill bit to drill into your new milk carton plastic paddle.
Finally you might just split the end of the bamboo and put a piece of milk carton plastic in there, so you have 2 fins. Superglue it in place, or use 5 minute epoxy.
Wow!, that has saved me a bunch! Thank You, Cora.
They sell paddle style drill bits at hardware stores. I'm betting that would work very well for mixing.
That small?
A skewer with a couple of pieces of fishing line tied to the end works for me.
The music in the background is a nice touch
Have you tried thinning it down enough to airbrush? If so, what's the best solvent for the job?
You have done a great informative video ..thank you
For 3D prints, I also have this idea of using and acetone or dichloromethane (if my PLA doesn't smooth with 99% IPA) as the solvent with graphite so basically the graphite solvent paint suspension (have to mix well before applying) literally just kind of melts/dissolves into the surface so might bind better. Jason Welsh I'm thinking might be doing that in one of his videos.... acetone I think with graphite. Then once drys, just steel wool or brush or buff off. My guess is dichloromethane might be better for PLA. Acetone for ABS reads like.
Neat, thanks for sharing. Wondering what at the Dollar Tree is going to be purchased next to experiment with... black acrylic paint if I don't find any around here in that art supply box from middle school that I think is still somewhere around here. Was wondering about using epoxy thinned a little to paint on the surface and then just dusting and then maybe a little more slightly aggressively painting on the pure graphite? I'll have to see what lubricant of the graphite I have around... though will budget for a bag/bottle of next month. Seems I bought a little bottle for foundry work also, to make graphite crucibles or something since was wanting to do some lost PLA casts for parts. I'm going to try to copper and then nickel plate some 3D printed parts for a sewing machine. I also want to replate some parts as well to restore that were rusted really bad.
thank you very much...awesome sauce!!!!
Good vid very informative. Try a plastic knitting needle for your stirrer, they are thick enough to remain rigid while spinning and with a little heat on the end it can be flattened out into a paddle shape.
phallca - Great idea!!
Thanks Cora
great info, thank you! I'm new to this, but fwiw I've found that a cotter pin stuck in a dremel is a great way to make a stirrer that won't bend like wire, you can find them at home depot in the hardware aisle, in the little drawers for special parts.
Using airbrush medium (acrylic polymer) and a bit of airbrush thinner instead of acrylic paint and water, you would get a way less viscous result that you could even airbrush it.
Interesting. Do have any more info on this
Nice laboratory bench!
Hello. Would you or anyone mind answering a few questions of mine? I'm studying on electric/conductive paint for a science fair(I know, it's kinda lame) so watching this video, I was just wondering:
1. I've found a bunch of DIY tutorials all over the internet on how to make electric paint. Sure, you use graphite(carbon) like everybody else but why is your recipe so simple? Idk, I was just wondering cuz there are many other simple recipes that I've found but they'd take more than just paint and graphite. So,what's the significance for you to do so?
2. What's electroforming?? (don't be mad, I'm only 16.. you probably don't have to answer this one tho)
3. I read a bit and *kinda* understand that electroforming involves transferring energy through water(????) Whether I'm right or wrong, if there's water involve, how is electric paint suitable for the job??
Someone please help me :)
well i am still before my first electroforming but i think:
1. graphite is the ingredient that will allow copper atoms to transfer so you dont need much more but the paint is necessary so it will stick to the piece.
2. electroforming - coating an item in a metal, it can be also gold, silver etc. as i said i am new and don't understand science well XD
3. not sure, i know that battery acid and copper sulfate, i think (i study electroforming in polish not english) and that combined with graphite (it is the thing that transfers copper) and of course electricity will do the work, i hope you stillneeds answers, if yes you can find detailed description on electroforming on makers monologue's blog.
Bonus like for the Background music..
My first batch I did with midge podge and regular water n got a bad result gonna try now with distilled. Is it important to have at least 50% graphite
instead of Dremel for stirring, use a drill - it runs much slower and you could use a bigger sitrrer.
Thanks for the video great work I will be trying this. I am going to try 2 different mixes one with the graphite and one with copper powder paid around $7 for a pound of each but was wondering if the copper powder would make any difference in the plating process.
shane bell - Copper powder tends to be heavy and quickly begins to separate from the paint. It could work, but would require constant stirring
How'd the copper powder work and what mesh was it?
I hear rob dougan in the background. Nice.
At 2 x speed this still progresses slowly
Great video, thanks. I would like to see a vid of something coated with this being electroplated. :)
Thankyou so much for this!!!
i use a nail in the end to mix resin so should resin in the same way if this helps thank you good video
22 mins? WTF...(mix graphite powder with paint)... thats all it needed 3 seconds. Duh!
Trying to understand the reason for the acrylic paint and distilled water other than as solvents for the graphite. Instead, you can simply mix graphite powder with acetone to create your conductive paint - and you won't need a power tool to mix it up. Just stir by hand with a paddle or small paint brush that's compatible with acetone.
In storage, the acetone will evaporate out no matter how air-tight your container is, but you simply add more at the time you're doing a project and stir it up again.
TechSupport100 - Most objects that I plate, especially those created with polymer clay, would be eaten/ruined by acetone
would acetone even stick to plastic or glossy surfaces?
Acetone will destroy some plastics. I'm trying a solvent based combo of denatured alcohol, shellac chips and graphite for dipping. My theory is, the denatured alcohol with evaporate quickly and the shellac will be the "glue" lol.
I've never done this before, but will be trying it this weekend. Lol
My question is, if both regular water and distilled water evaporate leaving graphite and paint behind, why does the water need to be distilled? Will it still change the Ph of the bath?
You can buy a TEENY TINY battery operated WHISK/mixers on amazon for about $8!! Called FROTHERS, I think....The Dremel process seems a huge waste of time.
thanks for sharing :)
Great Cora.! May share once.
Can you use this recipe for electroplating.
Oh my dear.....
I have a video I’m almost done editing just for you and your amazing idea of a min dowel or skewer or whatever the hell you wanna call it along with your Dremel on low for ya.... ya.. and I was using in,... 🤪 We
I tried mixing the powdered graphite with matte mod podge like Jason Welsh recommended in a video, and it did not work. :( Have you tried this, and did it work for you if so? I do have some black acrylic paint, so I'll make a new batch. But meanwhile I have 3 huge crystals coated with the mix I made, and not sure if I can just paint over top of that, because it wouldn't be easy to remove it.
I've tryed it but the tester always doesn't give me good news... more graphite?
PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO WITH THE RIGHT FORMULA, FOR EMF RF SHIELDING CONDUCTIVE HOUSEHOLD PAINT FOR WALLS AND CEILING VS. WIFI & 5G. PAINT IS SO PRICEY 5 LTRS/$300. THANKS. WATCHING IN CANADA
Hi, i have a question. Yesterday first time i try to electroform sth and copper has fallen off stone. What can be a reason? My conductive paint was thicker than yours. That can be the reason?
For the mixer: If you know a lampworker, just have them melt down the end of a glass rod, flatten out, maybe even give it a lil twist, then chuck that into your rotary tool
Oooooooh, sounds like a fast way to break some glass...
First, thank you for the apology! thought I was watchin it dry instead of watchin it be made! lol Just kidding kind of. For your stir stick you would do much better if you take a long skinny nail, heat the head while holding it with vice grips and then hit the head on the side repeatedly to flatten it into a T. If you flatten it just enough you can then take those 2 little wings and very slightly twist them to form a type of propeller. then just put it into your dremmel and really stir it nicely. This type of stirrer will last you forever and will not accidently blow up on you one day. Dremmels are way too high speed for a wooden bit! Not callin you clumsy but at 54 years of age I can assertively say that I have the scars ta prove that you don't have ta get clumsy ta get hurt I would prefer to see you use a cordless drill for safety reasons [lower RPMS] because if you ever bump that dremmel while stirring you could really do yourself some serious damage! And I have accidently bumped them, I did appreciate learning how to make the paint. Sorry if I am sounding a bit too much like a Dad! lol
haii hello thanks for video, i have graphite powder how to mix that with liquid and what the good liquid for it is?
do you think the paint would spray out of an airbrush?
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I love the way you pretend to be so clumsy and haphazard!
What makes you say she is pretending? I'm confused.
bien expliqué, ça peut etre utile dans le cas de blindage electromagnetique et puis c'est vraiment pas cher
Donc Merci pour le tuto :)
Have you tried using acrylic medium?
It is pigment free.
Adam Bryant - I'm sure it would work, but it costs much more than a dollar, unlike my Apple Barrel paint, haha
Hey nice vid thanks. Have to confess I like the word moist. Just sayin.
lollypop sticks ( plastic )
If this were a teaching practice, you failed. lack of preparation. A good case for measuring.
Is it possible to electroform my rod using this stuff?
YES! Post videos!
Você conhece alguém que ensina essa técnica????
Mind my asking what you're listening to in the background. Ive heard it before in another video
Pumped up kicks?
Thanks for the video! Btw what is the song in the background????
I also need to know. heard it a few years ago in the Nazis of NASA video
I have alot of aluminum powder, would that work?
I haven't watched the video yet but being a Plater for over 30 years, I would think not. You have to Zincate aluminum first before you can plate it. But I could be wrong on electroforming.
Aluminum is not magnetic
@@katomistika7234 doesn't need to be magnetic it needs to be conductive.
the way you hold the dermal looks exactly like my **** I mean just use your imagination
dentist?
Weasting lot lot. Lot of time bcoz she
Anyone got a source for generals graphite? A 6oz container of it is on fleabay for 200BUCKS! WTF??
Subbed ;-)
Search for "Microfyne Graphite Powder Lubricant, 12oz can" on amazon it works wonders. $16
Video is too long, time is money, please shorten your videos if you want to get more followers.
Ffwd or stop complaining about how she does her videos. Im new at this and I need to turn 3d prints into an electrode to do ecm. I enjoy her work