Inferno Has To Go
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- Опубліковано 17 кві 2024
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It feels as if a new CS2 map is right around the corner.
We’ve had photos of the new Cache for some time, the clamors for Cobble are getting louder and even the Train rework has been leaked.
But the question isn’t just ‘what will Valve put in’; it’s what will they take out?
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GIVE US A FKING WORKING ANTICHEAT
yep. if they want to stop the cheating then adding a anticheat would help so much. anticheat basically makes it harder for people to cheat on the game.
@@johnmarkson1998 nah really i didnt know that thx
@@CodeStrife7 youre welcome buddy. hopefully your see your comment so they can add it to the game.
yes
Yea, none of this matters to me until anticheat is dealt with.
This man wants to remove Inferno yet thinks Vertigo is good, I do not negotiate with terrorists.
😂
did you watch the video? he literally said that shouldn't be vertigo u high on sth
VertiGOAT YOU MEAN BOY?! SIMMMMER DOWNNN hahaha
@@sxccdcc8380"shouldn't" doesn't mean it won't
crazy take when alot of teams are strong on Vertigo lol
I think Karrigan would agree with us too
1-15 inferno specialist
His map 3 fragmovie goes hard af tho
This video is sponsored by Karrigan, and Valve dev- Ropz
Wilsoooooon
@@riker8214man that frag movie was so savage lmfaoo
when will the score esports not use "f@*cking" for once
lmao so true
Whenever CS2 and its issues don't get this bad they'll stop using it
whenever youtube stop demonitizing video due to swear words
The audience clicks swear words
@@purplesky135 they are very scary 😱😰😢😭😓
Valve DARED to remove dust2, I doubt anything will hold them back from removing mirage.
I just hope they get a working anticheat, I don't care what map I get a rage cheater on.
I want Tuscan. Its literally the perfect next step, being a classic map fully remade for the modern era in a game that practically got the same treatment.
Was it played in comp? I dont remeber
**Mirage** needs to f#$king go.
FTFY :)
Mirage needs a remake not removal. Been the best map forever its not going anywhere
@@sorrysren mirage has been in cs for over 10 years, its so overplayed that in every game I play on mirage at least 1 person is taking how unfun the map is so mby take it out of active map pool for a while than reintroduce it like they did with dust, cache or nuke
The title of this video should be ''Mirage Needs To F@*king Go''
i like new inferno as much as i liked the old one, my favorite map, they can take it off the official mappool, but they have to leave it be in the game, inferno is the part of the game just like dust2
I hate inferno and agree completely
@@nicky111 yeah all cs has done is take stuff away, just give us more shit to play. its boring af only doing ranked or dm or the 2 worst arms race maps, and then there's cheaters going crazy on top of all that.
The 2nd csgo inferno used to be my favorite map by far. But idk what valve was smoking when making the cs2 version of it. There is so much dogshit on the map, why are there ledges everywhere, why do they use so many different colors, why are there pots and stuff everywhere, why are there like a million things that your grenades can bounce off of, why are there tables everywhere? Its impossible to navigate the map while walking backwards. Its so dogshit..
@@inshallahhehehesiuu8223 Agreed. Personally, I prefer OLD CSGO inferno, the one from before the map reworks in like 2015/2016 whenever it was. But, I HEAVILY respect new CSGO inferno, it was the backbone of all maps. Not great, but not bad. Solid map. I'd say Dust 2, Inferno, Cache, Train, and Nuke are the 5 backbone maps of CS.
Though I must admit.. new inferno is just atrocious. The colours look terrible, and everything makes less sense to look at, the more I look at it. It's clear they went for like an italian street idea, but it just doesn't sit right.
I've had well over 5k scrims/matches on nuke/dust2/inferno over the years since 1.3. It should never be removed.
Mirage and inferno out. Cobble and Cache in, that's the dream
Train*
cobblestone, not cobble, and I agree. otherwise train
I’d prefer train to cobble but I’m with you
@@phanji4031 if you wanna get technical it’s cbble
Ancient and Inferno out.
1 week later... Dust 2 returned 👎
How dare you disrespect lord inferno.
Inferno is the best one
just a random complaint, but im really just tired of the desert orange common theme. I almost seek out nuke/vertigo/ancient simply bc they offer a different color palette
I need train back now
Imagine spending all this time reworking inferno just for this mf to be like naw
we need more maps in the map pool not replacements. So train, the data mined cbble and possible cache will all replace current maps in the map pool? every current map has a playerbase (some worse than others) I don't think we need to remove anything yet
Personally they should remove Inferno & Mirage, rework Inferno & then bring it back in for Vertigo! The problem with Inferno & Mirage is they have been in the pool too long everyone knows all the utility even at a lower level, also I pray they dont bring back Dust 2 because that map is worse than everything we have in the pool now!
Inferno is a punishing map, but I enjoy it. Honestly hate Overpass. To easy to steamroll a side on overpass.
they wont take out inferno cuz they just made it. they may take out mirage and overpass and if they do a third they could take out nuke or vertigo bc ancient they made and taking it out may be admitting failure and anubis is too new
wym they "just made it"? inferno isn't a new map its so old its annoying if anything
@@basedgengarenjoyer7510 they just rebuilt the entire map for cs2. come on bro use ur brain ik u got one man
@@gugga2745 dust 2 treatment..its more about pro plays stats..If the pro's don't play it they will change it
Dumb take. Valve doesn't mind removing maps. Anubis and Ancient are good maps and require a high level of game play.
you just contradicted yourself with saying they will take out overpass. personally for me ancient and vertigo are the worse in the map pool. remove those and add cache, tuscan. train, and cobble. wish more ppl were for a 9 map pool or even more. 7 maps is to small of a number for me.
The best option would be to add anticheat. Every "update" is a new case or just something irrelevant to us normal players.
I know there are lots of memories in Inferno but I personally want a different map to watch pro highlights from.
Inferno is my favorite map :(
Get rid of Mirage!
the rework ruined it, made it too tight making it way too easy for ct to stop pushes with 1 smoke or molly, banana and mid are much easier to hold as ct and now you can throw almost all smokes needed for ct from spawn
mirage needs to go, even the original creator said it's shit, and it is
@@St0RM33 nuh uh
@@St0RM33 Not shit just overplayed, it’s dust3 basically
@@St0RM33 it's not crap. The map is really well balanced and fun to play... If it's not overplayed.
Yes, Mirage needs to go, and so does Overpass. Both overplayed and total eye-sores. Inferno is fun and even if you're getting owned, at least it's nice to look at.
cs2 should be removed entirely tbh
@@gameringdudeguy1126 Let's not be so dramatic.
@@Noob_FPS Let's be so dramatic.
Hot Take: I like Vertigo, hate mirage and inferno, played them so much I just take them off the queue to play, We want Train and Cache back ❤
3:00
Inferno was out of the map pool while they were reworking it. Mirage has stayed in the map pool for like 10 years. LOL
-Inferno's not going anywhere; Valve put too much work into it for CS2
-Cache isn't going in because Valve doesn't own it
-Best candidates for removal are older maps which weren't overhauled for CS2: Mirage, Vertigo, Nuke
-Tuscan or Train are most likely for addition because they were reworked with Source 2 in mind and Valve owns them
We need a rotational map system, and make the community chose between 'Valve' Chosen maps to vote for what map goes and what map goes in.
-anubis -vertigo
+Cache +Train
It’s possible that if you expanded the CT spawn and pushed the CT’s back to slow their time to Mid and Banana it would allow for more balance on both sides.
Before the CSGO rework of Inferno. I’m talking about the version of A site having a bunch of wooden beams all over it. That was the best iteration of that map and was my personal favorite until it’s first rework. So many crazy pre fires and wall bangs were possible and I had so many laughs on that map with my buddies. Bc that what the map was , the competitive meme map with a lot of outplay potential. Now it’s just a boring spawn throw util map with very little complexity.
DUDE! Inferno has been rotated in 2016 during its rework!
Out of all the maps you mentioned in this video, somehow the answer was none of the above.
No, don't touch it! Take Mirage instead
Vertigo doesn't need to go, but it definitely needs a complete rework so that the bombsites are more likely to be used evenly. And they really need to do something about people being likely to fall off the map. Other than that, I still feel that Vertigo is a much better map vs all other maps I've seen in the past.
Inferno has always been my favorite map from early CSGO onward. Even still. Dealing with the claustrophobic nature of the map and the "default" utility sets that are run "over and over" is what i like about it. Training the enemies to react to your util sets only to exploit their adjustments, remaining a step ahead, and getting out of the cramped T ramp and forcing the cts onto their sites and denying info really demonstrates which team is able to control the map better and you really FEEL it on this map. It can be oppressive and that is the point. When you get to free yourself from it and put it back on the CTs on Tside has to be the most satisfying feeling in CS to me. The new overhead stuff on banana that prevents the Ts from matching the cts ability to control banana without taking risks is way too bad tho. If they open up the bsite entry, maybe make apps a little easier to get out of for the Ts (or set utility) and figure out a way to make the Cts rotations a little bit shorter and the map would be S Tier.
Who let bro cook
1:12 Valve-Time doesn't care for that...
Inferno is the goat. Every cs map has a stale meta. They've all been figured out for years now. The maps don't get swapped out or updated nearly quick enough to change that.
People coming in and saying "inferno bad cause same utility thrown every round", yet every cs map is like that. They're all stale and all play out the same way. We've all seen the same smoke molly combos on every map for years now. We really just need fresh maps or a quicker rotation of maps.
Would absolutely love to see an official cs2 tuscan with some tweaks but keeping it overall the same. Would love to see maps like contra, russka, season, cobble, and train all get fresh remakes as well. Hope the upcoming cache remake is great too.
id love to see a remake of Aztec come back
Why did they make the smokes and mollys bigger? They seemed perfect before. You had to land them in the center of of doorways or banana otherwise it wouldn't fully cover. That's as skill based as it gets.
3:44 is how I feel exactly. I have friends that like it so I'll queue for it, but as soon as I start playing I wish I didn't add it
For years I have wanted a dedicated cycling of maps. Cycle one out and one in after the major, and while the map is out of the cycle use that time to tweak it and make changes and let people test it.
It would make absolutely no sense for them to remove inferno when they did a complete rework. They'd rather do a rebalancing than take it out. If they were going to remove anything, it'd either be mirage or nuke as they haven't been changed/balanced in a long time .
Nuke just seems to be in a great spot rn. Surely its Mirage if anything has to go.
@@rizeyy4618 I agree. Nuke is pretty good rn. Just was saying that either of those would get a removed to be redone before the brand new inferno rework
Nuke is the best map in the pool
Honestly, i would love 2 maps to leave and rotate
- mirage & inferno
+cache & tuscan/cobble.
6:48
watch me move trough apps and run back after getting enough info about the enemy
its no question.
inferno gotta go, it needs a heavy rework.
3 Lans and 3 Crashes on this map.
The real question is what we do get for inferno
My man says that Vertigo was pushed by force and fixed later on and thats how you fix a map by playing it. Later on, REMOVE INFERNO FIX IT AND ADD IT BACK, bro decide please.
Mirage is never going to be removed because it needs no changes; it is the only perfect map!
Am I the only one who doesnt want mirage and inferno to go? They are our childhood; everything we knew, at least maybe they can remove it from the pro map pool but it has gotta stay in the game. But also them being removed and the players being forced to learn new maps; that sounds fun as well
old inferno was ported to cs2 aswell and oh boy it would be better. the lanes are just that bit wider it could almost fix every problem, also wilson mentioned RAHHH 🦅🇺🇸
I like everything in the current map pool except vertigo. I don't know why but vertigo just requires such a different playstyle that it doesn't even feel like classic CS to me. I'm still getting used to anubis but everything else is fine.
How come there are people saying there's no same round in Mirage because players know a lot of ways to play the map then escore saying every round in Mirage is the same.
Can someone explain to me why they had to put different rank on every map?
Id be a happy man:
Inferno rework
Vertigo out
Nuke out
Cobble in
Santorini rework in
With my 5 stack team we used to main Inferno on CSGO and the second it went to CS2 we made it our second banned map in any BO1. Just sad how awful the new layout and utility is
Dimitri Malding aout Inferno's existance
Name a better duo
I'd love Valve to regularly rotate the map pool. With Mirage, Inferno, Anubis, Vertigo, Ancient, Nuke and Overpass as well as Train, Cobble, Dust 2 and Cache they have 11 pretty good and iconic maps that work in competitive. Maybe swap 2 Maps every year or something like that. Also I would love Train coming back. Its a pretty special map and there is just nothing like it. Just take Mirage out. It's long over its time
im so fucking pissed that out of all the maps that could have and should have been removed they didnt go with any of them and went with overpass instead. this is the worst map pool of all fucking time.
The moment they touched banana, inferno became dog shit
Saying both Inferno and Vertigo are flawed is like saying the US and China are third world countries: yes, you're technically right, but one would much prefer living in China than US.
-Mirage -Ancient
+Train +Cobblestone
lol, i cant believe anubis was 2022. I was like anubis only been here for a few months. but damn 2022. time flies when you getting old
Mirage is a symbol of an age that has passed. Just like dust 2 was THE cs map in the good, more, just shoot the other guys before they shoot you times, mirage was THE map that took the 4 square layout dust 2 brought, and perfected it. We are now at the beginning of an era, where 4 square layout isn't the only way to make a map, and mirage is just stale. You need something more, or at least a fresher take on it like what Ancient did. I think mirage needs some layout changes to make it, for lack of a better term, less mirage'y.
I am not a CS guy. But would Office work nowadays?
I'll just comeback to the game when everything is somewhat playable
Shove in Thera, it looks so fucking interesting
I haven't played cs in months, just clicking this video I ate triple nades running up B
Bro Inferno is where pros go to become legends, they will never take it out bc it’s just as iconic as Dust II
Also who the fuck enjoys Vertigo?
I'm a utility goblin and not an epic aim god, so keeping Inferno over Mirage would be my choice.
I didn't realize Inferno was so disliked, it's been one of my favorite maps since early CSGO. To see it go in the trash bin with Cobblestone, Cache, and Train would be depressing to say the least. I'd personally rather see a robust anti-cheat and a revival of the old CSGO maps before any "new" maps get added
Inferno has always been the showdown map. No arguments there.
Couldn't disagree more. It's Mirage's time to go or be revamped. It's well past its expiration date.
But bringing back real wingman maps is what I'd rather see first. Lake and Short Dust with 2 rotating wingman maps is a must. The single bombsite poser maps just aren't it, with Nuke being the biggest offender in the No Variation Ever camp. BoringAF.
VERTIGO STANS LINE UP!!!
I loved inferno in GO, But holy shit I despise it in CS2. Taking banana is more ass because of the util changes which sucks cause on T side I like to just entry banana all the time and the angles just feel so much worse to play.
Just make all the roads wider. Scale it up so it feels like 1.6 inferno. It will be ok and please bring train back.
I’ve pretty much always hated inferno. It’s a map made for rats. The cheese is off the fucking scales on that map. It’s pretty much the map for you if you never want to rely on your mechanics.
Add train cobble and cache. Take out inferno mirage and vertigo. Reduce nukes bomb radius.
Idk man I also played infy a lot but nowadays I tell everyone in my lobby to ban it.
Damn maybe it’s just because my team generally plays passively but I love inferno.
My priority of updates to come
1) Antifuckingcheat
2) Operation (With cases)
3) Maps
I want a working anti cheat first, but please valve take out mirage, inferno, and overpass. They've had their time and we need to move on. Replace them with cache, train, and cobble or any other map. Like damn bring back zoo or something. Really spice the pool up
Also would it be crazy to just expand the map pool by 2 maps without removing anything?
No it wouldent be crazy we need it... Now with mir and d2 in the same active duty pool i have 4 bans them plus ancient and inferno its fucking hell ass to grind faceit now because of d2 replacing overpass map variety is at its bare minimum now
I would like to go back, back when we had bigger map pool. I feel like not having cache, train, cbble, mirage, inf, nuke and overpass in the map pool is crime to the cs community. Those maps for me made their staple into the cs pro scene as THE CSGO maps. I feel like those should be there at all times and have someone constantly changing some bits here and there to improve the gameplay while their true soul and rock solid base remain.
So I put here the idea of having 9 map pool 7 legacy maps constatly improving and 2 rotation maps that will come from operations, community vote, rewind(like lets say anubis comes back after few years out and then after few years replaced again.)
Short vers: Have 9 map pool. 7 legacy maps(cbble,cache,mir,inf,over,nuke,train). Legacy maps are always changing bits here and there so it's not exactly same. But their rock solid base remain. 2 rotation maps from operations and community vote, while also some maps coming back ( for ex. anubis gets replaced and after few years comes back just to stir the water).
I would prefer the most that the game would get massive performance improvement, right now it's just doesn't feel smooth for me even with 150-250 fps
Inferno is my fav map, y'all can keep yapping
Okay, here is the real question! Shouldn't there be a real working Anti Cheat before we use any statistics or discuss any map changes? Because this game is otherwise dead and cheaters dont care about pros favorite mappicks. And btw me on the other hand. I really like inferno. Vertigo and Overpass are my favorites to leave the mappool.
They NEED to add more hostage maps, they can't live on just 2 lol
Vertigo is unique, and it's gotten better, that doesn't mean it's good. I don't disagree about mirage/inferno though. +cache, +cobble, -inferno, -mirage...... then Vertigo should be next on the chopping block
Replace mirage, nuke and vertigo with dust2, cache and cobble. That would be my dream.
NO! If we're removing maps, Anubis or Vertigo, just overall shit maps. Or just keep all of them.
Banana is unpushable with 50 nades and mollies thrown every round
Why can't ALL the maps be in rotation?
Make everyone happy.
Inferno was my favourite map in CS:GO. It's lost that place for me in CS2. Give us Cache pls
3:42 so real for this, as much as I appreciate Mirage as a template for regular gameplay, I'd always rather be playing Anubis. My friends and I are only playing on Nuke, Vertigo, and Mirage atm because Overpass and Inferno are just so tilting. Really hope they're replaced with Cache and Train soon, but there's no way they're taking out their first source 2 map (Inferno) so soon.
WE WANT CACHE, WE WANT CACHE, WE WANT CACHE!
i wish cobble would come back. my favourite map of all time
Man we understand you dont like inferno but dont lie to us tjat all are feeling like this, in every UA-cam vote mirage was the map voted to be removed from the map pool.
Imagine thinking A Ramp simulator 20XX is a good map.
i just unboxed a kukri case hareden guys